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October 23, 2021, 09:58:19 PM
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How low is low? You didn't name the altcoin and the market cap.

not too low, more or less a coin with a marketcap of $100M and a trading volume of $10M. one of them Banana(apeswap) #368 on coinmarketcap. I made an analysis for this coin a few weeks ago. At that time I saw the price had reached the resistance point, and I bought it. but so far the price has not gone up.
TA will not work all the time, infact if you apply different indicator you will also get different results compared to your previous analysis so  understand that price not only move based on market movements it depends on different factors like news, manipulation,etc.
^ This is what exactly the truth is, TA will not work all the time and TA is possible to work in a coin that has a low market cap because it is very easy to manipulate, so having TA on this is not perfectly working. I would rather choose the FA on the low market cap coin because the most fundamental analysis has an accurate result especially if the low market altcoin was on the hype. Traders should be careful always because this low market coin will most likely a favorite of the pump and dump people and will gain too much when they had a lot of followers.
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October 23, 2021, 10:21:12 PM
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How low is low? You didn't name the altcoin and the market cap.
not too low, more or less a coin with a marketcap of $100M and a trading volume of $10M. one of them Banana(apeswap) #368 on coinmarketcap. I made an analysis for this coin a few weeks ago. At that time I saw the price had reached the resistance point, and I bought it. but so far the price has not gone up.
I thought you were talking about extremely low cap tokens or coins. Those numbers are pretty decent but probably not on a bull market. What was your time frame by the way? Perhaps TA could work on them if you zoom out a bit. I've seen some people do that even on micro caps.

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October 23, 2021, 11:12:36 PM
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If demand is low, no indicators and other instruments of technical analysis will work. Even if this coin is oversold and it is still unpopular and there are no investors who are willing to buy, it will stagnate. You had better pay attention to the project itself and marketing campaign (advertisement and news) rather than to technical indicators in terms of low market cap coins.
Low market Cap Altcoins are mainly for long term investment, not tradeable because they always defies any form of TA, that is why I trade with the first 20 coins on coinmarketcap using TA and some indicators atleast these coins has a higher daily volume traded and huge market Cap thus I traded them using chart patterns after series of analysis based on TA thus I never bothered trading with low market Cap Altcoins who are mainly pump and dump coins and prone to manipulations.

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October 23, 2021, 11:31:03 PM
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some time ago I bought an altcoin which has a low marketcap and trading volume. I bought after analyzing using technical indicators. After a while I realized something was wrong. it should be if based on my analysis the coin I bought has entered an oversold period and the price should have started to reverse. but in fact it never happened. the price may go up, but it doesn't last long and it goes back down. then I also bought another altcoin which is almost the same. and again, I also experienced the same thing even though in the end I got profit thanks to long-term hold.
It certainly won't work as your might buy coins that have a low market cap and are worthless. Even you buy them all, you can never expect that there is a profit that it get you back. Honestly, you've got the wrong coins to invest. If you have money, better to look at potential altcoins and it makes sense, though.

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Then I started thinking and wondering, why is it difficult to apply technical analysis to coins with low market caps. unlike bitcoin and other major altcoins whose movements are still predictable. Altcoins with low market caps are difficult and even impossible to predict. whether this is all related to manipulation or there are other reasons that make it difficult to predict.
You don't need to wonder as TA cannot be 100% working even in Bitcoin, as you have thought of. I don't have a figure actually but based on my experience that is something 70-80% working on me. Of course, that also matters on the trend and the coins of your chossen.



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October 23, 2021, 11:47:44 PM
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It's because altcoins that you consider having a low market cap are prone to manipulations.

And besides, reading charts don't tell you what exactly you need to do. It's showing you instead the current happenings on a certain coin.

In trading altcoins, it's been proven and effective to rely on guts compare to technical analysis.
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October 23, 2021, 11:56:33 PM
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some time ago I bought an altcoin which has a low marketcap and trading volume. I bought after analyzing using technical indicators. After a while I realized something was wrong. it should be if based on my analysis the coin I bought has entered an oversold period and the price should have started to reverse. but in fact it never happened. the price may go up, but it doesn't last long and it goes back down. then I also bought another altcoin which is almost the same. and again, I also experienced the same thing even though in the end I got profit thanks to long-term hold.

Then I started thinking and wondering, why is it difficult to apply technical analysis to coins with low market caps. unlike bitcoin and other major altcoins whose movements are still predictable. Altcoins with low market caps are difficult and even impossible to predict. whether this is all related to manipulation or there are other reasons that make it difficult to predict.

It's not went the way you like that's why you think TA can't apply on low market cap coins.

Just continue using TA and apply it on your future decision. Once you are now using it, you can ask yourself again if it's really difficult to apply technical analysis on some altcoins.

Experience will teach you to use it.

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October 24, 2021, 03:19:59 AM
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Then I started thinking and wondering, why is it difficult to apply technical analysis to coins with low market caps. unlike bitcoin and other major altcoins whose movements are still predictable. Altcoins with low market caps are difficult and even impossible to predict. whether this is all related to manipulation or there are other reasons that make it difficult to predict.

So you mean to say that bitcoin and any other major altcoins are easy to predict? I think you end up thinking like that because you don't have a good run analyzing the altcoin's behavior. After all, it's just common not to predict easily the movements of some low cap market cap coins since they don't have a decent trading volume in the first place so what do you expect?

And besides, 90% of traders I believed are trading with their instinct and TA are secondary and will just act as a reference.

Anyways, what coins are you referring to that can consider having a low market capitalization?

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October 24, 2021, 03:40:47 AM
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some time ago I bought an altcoin which has a low marketcap and trading volume. I bought after analyzing using technical indicators. After a while I realized something was wrong. it should be if based on my analysis the coin I bought has entered an oversold period and the price should have started to reverse. but in fact it never happened. the price may go up, but it doesn't last long and it goes back down. then I also bought another altcoin which is almost the same. and again, I also experienced the same thing even though in the end I got profit thanks to long-term hold.

Then I started thinking and wondering, why is it difficult to apply technical analysis to coins with low market caps. unlike bitcoin and other major altcoins whose movements are still predictable. Altcoins with low market caps are difficult and even impossible to predict. whether this is all related to manipulation or there are other reasons that make it difficult to predict.

Technical analysis is not hard to those traders who understand it, but for the people who don't know how to get the catch, it will surely hard too for them to get it. But the only thing I can suggest to you is always start with the basic in trading then you will not going to notice that while the time is passing by little by little you will understand what TA analysis.

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October 24, 2021, 03:52:01 AM
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It's true, altcoins with low market cap are very easy to be manipulated by one or a few whales, it causes technical analysis to not apply to altcoins with low market cap.
Technical analysis can be applied to coins whose fundamentals are already good.

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October 24, 2021, 07:34:39 AM
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You can pick some low cap coins from the market and then try to make a comparison between the chart of those coins and you will be seeing the differences. There are lots of factors that were affecting it. Some people have been mentioning the correct factors like

- supply
- demand

You must remember that if it's not only caused by that. When the coin has no liquidity in the market and it will create a huge spread between buy and sell orders. that means this will make the price of coin will be very volatile compared with the major coins that have low gap of slippage. It will also affecting the result of your prediction in small marketcap coins. Manipulation was making the market becomes more volatile. it can also be driven by external factors like the news that come from the big parties.
Someone with big chunks of coin can make the bullish trend to turn into the bearish trend instantly. TA was not working on the small cap altcoins. it lack of liquidity and it was affecting the stability of the trend.

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In my opinion, The general analysis commonly used in the money market world is usually easier to see BTC and ETH, because the reference is only to BTC and ETH if those 2 go up, other coins also go up and one more thing the crypto driving factor is not only fundamental but the determinant of price increases mainly because there is demand/daily transactions for these coins/tokens not only because of fundamentals.

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some time ago I bought an altcoin which has a low marketcap and trading volume. I bought after analyzing using technical indicators. After a while I realized something was wrong. it should be if based on my analysis the coin I bought has entered an oversold period and the price should have started to reverse. but in fact it never happened. the price may go up, but it doesn't last long and it goes back down. then I also bought another altcoin which is almost the same. and again, I also experienced the same thing even though in the end I got profit thanks to long-term hold.

Then I started thinking and wondering, why is it difficult to apply technical analysis to coins with low market caps. unlike bitcoin and other major altcoins whose movements are still predictable. Altcoins with low market caps are difficult and even impossible to predict. whether this is all related to manipulation or there are other reasons that make it difficult to predict.
I'm not a TA believer in general (and you should know that it's considered scientifically dubious), but if TA works for you with big coins, why not profit from them instead of bothering with low marketcap ones? As for potential reasons why unpopular coins are less predictable, I think it's largely due to a high risk of the price being manipulated by big players. Trying to manipulate the price of a coin with huge marketcap and trading volume requires immense resources that almost nobody possesses. But playing a pump and dump game with a coin that's barely traded is a different story.

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October 24, 2021, 11:48:48 AM
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It's true, altcoins with low market cap are very easy to be manipulated by one or a few whales, it causes technical analysis to not apply to altcoins with low market cap.
Technical analysis can be applied to coins whose fundamentals are already good.
The whales can play pump and dump as they want, making the analysis may not work. Maybe you can follow where the price goes. For example, if the price is down, you buy. And if the price is up, you sell. But there is no guarantee when the price will move or the sign for the coin to increase or decrease. That makes the analysis hardly to apply and maybe you can only use your feeling based on the coin situation, which will be too difficult to guess the movement.

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October 25, 2021, 11:46:12 AM
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whether this is all related to manipulation or there are other reasons that make it difficult to predict.
most of it is due to market manipulation. Low market cap is very vulnerable to manipulation, therefore TA cannot be expected for such a coin. the only way to make an analysis for a coin with a low market cap is to look at its fundamentals. this method is better and proved to be more accurate. Broadly speaking, when there is a positive update, the price will go up. if you follow this, you will find it easier to analyze.

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November 10, 2021, 06:53:07 AM
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In my opinion, altcoins with low market cap are difficult to analyze because the market is very easy to manipulate. someone buys it not because the price is in the support area, but anytime they are able to play with the price, on the other hand because there are still few investors in it, so the trading volume is still low, so trading seems unhealthy without being interfered with by various points of view from many traders.
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November 17, 2021, 02:52:43 PM
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Not everything that happens because of manipulation in my opinion. Altcoin price movements so far are very difficult to predict.
Unlike the market conditions in 2017, almost all Altcoins move simultaneously with the movement of Bitcoin. But for now, when Bitcoin movement is increasing, only a few Altcoins are experiencing an increase.
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November 17, 2021, 05:26:53 PM
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Low marketcap coins and listing on the small exchanges, Most of the time it seems risky investment because low trading volume coins will gradually low if they've no interested buyers and hold to long term. And if team haven’t enough fund to listing bigger exchanges than investors will go leave.

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November 17, 2021, 10:03:25 PM
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Simplest reason is already given, it is basically just a situation where you end up with not enough data to back that up with TA. Things about the current situation is that if you have liquidity so low would mean that there is a good chance you could literally just fail to get enough data to pick it up and find the right chart direction.

The low liquidity means that you could literally have one rich person that end up with changing the whole system and then something that looks like it will go up could end up going up just because one rich person could end up selling, or it could look like it will go down but one rich person could end up increasing the price by buying it. This is not really possible with the high cap coins because they have a lot of volume which means you are not going to end up with a drop or increase just because of one rich person buying or selling.

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November 19, 2021, 04:22:16 PM
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Well, altcoins with a low market cap, like you said, are prone to manipulation. But, I don’t think that would be why your technical analysis is not working on them, because it’s not every time that the market is being manipulated. So, the analysis simply didn’t work, maybe it wasn’t accurate. You’re forgetting that an analysis doesn’t have a 100% chance at predicting what the market would turn out to be.

It’s mostly thing of chance, it goes two ways. But if you think that low market caps are not working out for you, then you should just go with coins that has huge market cap, so that you wouldn’t have to keep losing your money. Although investing in coins with bigger market cap doesn’t come with any less risk, there is still the same risk involved.

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November 19, 2021, 04:34:40 PM
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Project with lower marketcap can be manipulated by anyone. This doesn’t need a huge amount of fund even. With $50k-$100k, anyone can pump the price or even dump the coin price. So, you can't apply TA there of course.

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