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October 27, 2021, 10:26:02 AM
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I see that I can buy bonus spin on WOF by my RP, so I bought 1 bonus spin on WOF for every free roll, but when I go to spin the wheel, I see that the client seed section is FROZEN and I can't change it.

Then I refresh the page to see if the client seed is change and the system not allowed me to spin the wheel and erase my bonus for this roll.

SO WTF?!
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October 27, 2021, 10:36:54 AM
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I see that I can buy bonus spin on WOF by my RP, so I bought 1 bonus spin on WOF for every free roll, but when I go to spin the wheel, I see that the client seed section is FROZEN and I can't change it.

Then I refresh the page to see if the client seed is change and the system not allowed me to spin the wheel and erase my bonus for this roll.

SO WTF?!

Bugs do happen, so... chill down...
Did you try to use the contact form from the faq page or try to PM the owner TheQuin?
Maybe I'm wrong, but it looks like a bug to me. It may be related to the cookie settings too, but.. you better ask the support what's the problem there.

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October 27, 2021, 10:38:21 AM
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You should have searched for their main thread instead of taking a step to create a new one. This is their main thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=320959.19120 and TheQuin was more of a helping hand to sort it out if there's an issue. You can lock this one, look at the right bottom of this page and click "lock". More just like a bug to me too, you should have troubleshoot a little.
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October 27, 2021, 10:45:27 AM
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I see that I can buy bonus spin on WOF by my RP, so I bought 1 bonus spin on WOF for every free roll, but when I go to spin the wheel, I see that the client seed section is FROZEN and I can't change it.

Then I refresh the page to see if the client seed is change and the system not allowed me to spin the wheel and erase my bonus for this roll.

SO WTF?!

Bugs do happen, so... chill down...
Did you try to use the contact form from the faq page or try to PM the owner TheQuin?
Maybe I'm wrong, but it looks like a bug to me. It may be related to the cookie settings too, but.. you better ask the support what's the problem there.


Before I post here, I write to TheQuin, but don't have answer yet(from yesterday to today). I use a contact form too, nothing happen.
Another interesting thing is that when I refresh the page to change auto client seed, the site erase my bonus spin and give me nothing - so I don't think this is  a bug, cause I have bonus spin on every hour and the same result.
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October 27, 2021, 12:32:19 PM
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I see that I can buy bonus spin on WOF by my RP, so I bought 1 bonus spin on WOF for every free roll, but when I go to spin the wheel, I see that the client seed section is FROZEN and I can't change it.

Then I refresh the page to see if the client seed is change and the system not allowed me to spin the wheel and erase my bonus for this roll.

SO WTF?!

Bugs do happen, so... chill down...
Did you try to use the contact form from the faq page or try to PM the owner TheQuin?
Maybe I'm wrong, but it looks like a bug to me. It may be related to the cookie settings too, but.. you better ask the support what's the problem there.


Before I post here, I write to TheQuin, but don't have answer yet(from yesterday to today). I use a contact form too, nothing happen.
Another interesting thing is that when I refresh the page to change auto client seed, the site erase my bonus spin and give me nothing - so I don't think this is  a bug, cause I have bonus spin on every hour and the same result.
You should look at the multiply BTC page to see if your WOF spin has been effectively done or not. It can just be a bug of the display.
For the seed you're right, I don't know why but we can't change it unlike free WOF spins received via emails.

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October 27, 2021, 12:51:33 PM
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I see that I can buy bonus spin on WOF by my RP, so I bought 1 bonus spin on WOF for every free roll, but when I go to spin the wheel, I see that the client seed section is FROZEN and I can't change it.

Then I refresh the page to see if the client seed is change and the system not allowed me to spin the wheel and erase my bonus for this roll.

SO WTF?!

Bugs do happen, so... chill down...
Did you try to use the contact form from the faq page or try to PM the owner TheQuin?
Maybe I'm wrong, but it looks like a bug to me. It may be related to the cookie settings too, but.. you better ask the support what's the problem there.


Before I post here, I write to TheQuin, but don't have answer yet(from yesterday to today). I use a contact form too, nothing happen.
Another interesting thing is that when I refresh the page to change auto client seed, the site erase my bonus spin and give me nothing - so I don't think this is  a bug, cause I have bonus spin on every hour and the same result.
You should look at the multiply BTC page to see if your WOF spin has been effectively done or not. It can just be a bug of the display.
For the seed you're right, I don't know why but we can't change it unlike free WOF spins received via emails.


I checked many times and the result is same - when you refresh the page you lose your bonus roll. 
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October 27, 2021, 01:28:48 PM
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I checked many times and the result is same - when you refresh the page you lose your bonus roll. 
There might be a bug or some problem with the site, the best solution here is to contact the support especially if you did nothing against the rules and did not abuse the bonus system. Just go on their main thread and raise your concern there, they are really helpful so you'll get your answer right away. If you can't still see the the bonus on your account, something is really wrong.
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October 27, 2021, 01:40:58 PM
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I checked many times and the result is same - when you refresh the page you lose your bonus roll. 
There might be a bug or some problem with the site, the best solution here is to contact the support especially if you did nothing against the rules and did not abuse the bonus system. Just go on their main thread and raise your concern there, they are really helpful so you'll get your answer right away. If you can't still see the the bonus on your account, something is really wrong.

Like I said before - I emailed to support , then pm to TheQuin and checked many times - the result is the same and the answer is missing second day.
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I checked many times and the result is same - when you refresh the page you lose your bonus roll.  
There might be a bug or some problem with the site, the best solution here is to contact the support especially if you did nothing against the rules and did not abuse the bonus system. Just go on their main thread and raise your concern there, they are really helpful so you'll get your answer right away. If you can't still see the the bonus on your account, something is really wrong.

Like I said before - I emailed to support , then pm to TheQuin and checked many times - the result is the same and the answer is missing second day.
When you open a thread it's always a good practice to come back to say how the issue had been solved at the end. It helps people encountering similar problems or asking the same questions as you to know what they can do or to get the answer to their questions.
Finally TheQuin replied to you on the freebtc main thread. Editable client seeds are coming soon.  Smiley You can lock your thread if you want now.

I want to report a problem with Wheel of Fortune. I've opened my ticket from daily email, solved the captcha, and reload the page. After this I got a message "SORRY, THIS FREE SPIN HAS EXPIRED. PLEASE CHECK OUR NEXT PROMOTIONAL EMAIL FOR A NEW SPIN". But I didn't press the SPIN button, just reload the page Huh. Reopening the ticket gives the same message.

I just want to warn other users: DON'T RELOAD THE PAGE WITH THE WHEEL OF FORTUNE.



When you solve the captcha, you actually claim the wof, clicking on the spin button only shows the result.
So if you refresh the page after solving the captcha, it's like you're claiming the wof for second time.
To check what you've got you can check your roll history in multiply section.

Yes, once you solve captcha you have to then click spin otherwise you lose it.



When you play WOF bonus rolls you can't change the client seed and TheQuin or somebody else still not answer me why is that. Cause in that way the provably fair system is killed and I got 31 RP on every roll.

I humbly apologise for not noticing your VIP newbie status with 7 posts all about the same thing. I should have dropped all other work to make an effort to reply to someone so important immediately. Making the client seed editable is already on the to-do list.

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October 29, 2021, 03:15:40 PM
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I checked many times and the result is same - when you refresh the page you lose your bonus roll.  
There might be a bug or some problem with the site, the best solution here is to contact the support especially if you did nothing against the rules and did not abuse the bonus system. Just go on their main thread and raise your concern there, they are really helpful so you'll get your answer right away. If you can't still see the the bonus on your account, something is really wrong.

Like I said before - I emailed to support , then pm to TheQuin and checked many times - the result is the same and the answer is missing second day.
When you open a thread it's always a good practice to come back to say how the issue had been solved at the end. It helps people encountering similar problems or asking the same questions as you to know what they can do or to get the answer to their questions.
Finally TheQuin replied to you on the freebtc main thread. Editable client seeds are coming soon.  Smiley You can lock your thread if you want now.

I want to report a problem with Wheel of Fortune. I've opened my ticket from daily email, solved the captcha, and reload the page. After this I got a message "SORRY, THIS FREE SPIN HAS EXPIRED. PLEASE CHECK OUR NEXT PROMOTIONAL EMAIL FOR A NEW SPIN". But I didn't press the SPIN button, just reload the page Huh. Reopening the ticket gives the same message.

I just want to warn other users: DON'T RELOAD THE PAGE WITH THE WHEEL OF FORTUNE.



When you solve the captcha, you actually claim the wof, clicking on the spin button only shows the result.
So if you refresh the page after solving the captcha, it's like you're claiming the wof for second time.
To check what you've got you can check your roll history in multiply section.

Yes, once you solve captcha you have to then click spin otherwise you lose it.



When you play WOF bonus rolls you can't change the client seed and TheQuin or somebody else still not answer me why is that. Cause in that way the provably fair system is killed and I got 31 RP on every roll.

I humbly apologise for not noticing your VIP newbie status with 7 posts all about the same thing. I should have dropped all other work to make an effort to reply to someone so important immediately. Making the client seed editable is already on the to-do list.

The problem still not resolved, so I can't say that the the issue had been solved.

TheQuin said that she did not see my status like I only wrote a status, but the truth is that before that I wrote a personal message to the team, then to her, after a long time I started a topic and only then I started writing posts in the main topic.

The only thing that has happened so far is that the TheQuin tried to argue with me that I was nobody and the problem is insignificant.

And the other thing that happened is that after her post, my profile started asking for verification again before each free roll and although I fulfilled the conditions three times the captcha is not removed - so TheQuin or the team just try to "punish" me...
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October 29, 2021, 08:03:29 PM
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OP, why don't you just make a video with your cellphone and then post it on Youtube? They say truth is in the pudding... so give us some pudding. You know you are making allegations against one of the oldest and most trusted Crypto sites on the Internet.  Huh

#Wetsuit and #TheQuin will then look at the evidence and they will respond... they will not leave it there and hope it will go away, if it is true. It might just be some small bug... and if they can recreate it... they can fix it.  Wink

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October 29, 2021, 08:37:24 PM
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OP, why don't you just make a video with your cellphone and then post it on Youtube?
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^ You are definitely right, just create a valid and solid prove and I think this is the only way to prove yourself that you are saying the truth because you are accusing them with have illegal activities on users account and including you, removing free bonus rolls I think not that kind of a serious case. Create a video and refresh your main page and let see if you are honestly saying this. Nevrtheless, as you can say, they said that it could be a bug, but the best thing is if TheQuin will clarify the issue here and this allegation will be solved and your case is getting solved.
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October 29, 2021, 09:23:10 PM
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This is the video that I made:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVQ0xczNMY8

I show that I played much more than necessary to unlock the captcha.

I will make second video when get enough money to buy tickets again(because i bought it 3 times and every time the result was the same - new rules for me to unlock the captcha).

I was remove captcha when buy tickets before one year or more maybe - I can't remember and have no problem till the moment while I post the problem with WOF - on the same day after TheQuin scolded me here, so from that moment till now I just buy and buy tickets and every time the captcha is still here and the rules are new to remove it.
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This is the video that I made:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVQ0xczNMY8

I show that I played much more than necessary to unlock the captcha.

I will make second video when get enough money to buy tickets again(because i bought it 3 times and every time the result was the same - new rules for me to unlock the captcha).

I was remove captcha when buy tickets before one year or more maybe - I can't remember and have no problem till the moment while I post the problem with WOF - on the same day after TheQuin scolded me here, so from that moment till now I just buy and buy tickets and every time the captcha is still here and the rules are new to remove it.
I'm sorry but I don't understand what you are trying to show in this video. At which moment are you showing that you need to solve any captcha?  Huh And what is the point of showing that Freebitcoin is offering you a bonus to wager at multiply BTC? What do you want to point out by showing that exactly? I don't see a so called "punishment" here.

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October 30, 2021, 11:43:58 AM
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This is the video that I made:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVQ0xczNMY8

I show that I played much more than necessary to unlock the captcha.

I will make second video when get enough money to buy tickets again(because i bought it 3 times and every time the result was the same - new rules for me to unlock the captcha).

I was remove captcha when buy tickets before one year or more maybe - I can't remember and have no problem till the moment while I post the problem with WOF - on the same day after TheQuin scolded me here, so from that moment till now I just buy and buy tickets and every time the captcha is still here and the rules are new to remove it.
I'm sorry but I don't understand what you are trying to show in this video. At which moment are you showing that you need to solve any captcha?  Huh And what is the point of showing that Freebitcoin is offering you a bonus to wager at multiply BTC? What do you want to point out by showing that exactly? I don't see a so called "punishment" here.

In the video I open the window that called PLAY FREE BTC WITHOUT CAPTCHA , so I think that is obviously what is mean, if you are user of freebitco.in.

This is an another video, that show captcha problem again(now before the roll):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsvFzwkqOcg

 - and I repeat - When I get enough satoshi I will buy tickets again to show what happen.


If you can't understand nothing - I can't explain more clearly.

I have another strike from them on the same day, same minute, when they put again captcha for me - they reduced my profit from 6 to 3 satoshi.

So for me the situation is pretty clearly and much funny. Just want to see what to happen when to share this info with this forum.

I don't cry for this - I have a second proof that they offer something from years that they can't fulfill, this is just for attraction for users, but I see that have no point to show that here.
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October 30, 2021, 12:34:06 PM
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In the video I open the window that called PLAY FREE BTC WITHOUT CAPTCHA , so I think that is obviously what is mean, if you are user of freebitco.in.

This is an another video, that show captcha problem again(now before the roll):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsvFzwkqOcg

 - and I repeat - When I get enough satoshi I will buy tickets again to show what happen.


If you can't understand nothing - I can't explain more clearly.

I have another strike from them on the same day, same minute, when they put again captcha for me - they reduced my profit from 6 to 3 satoshi.

So for me the situation is pretty clearly and much funny. Just want to see what to happen when to share this info with this forum.

I don't cry for this - I have a second proof that they offer something from years that they can't fulfill, this is just for attraction for users, but I see that have no point to show that here.
No I'm a regular user of freebtc and I assure you that I didn't understand that the screen you were showing in your first video necessarily implied that you need to solve a captcha. So I don't think many people had understood that too. If you need to solve a captcha why not just showing it?
Well I have not this kind of screen on my account so I can't say what is wrong with your account.
But did you try to buy some FUN tokens? Because if you own 2500 FUN tokens the captcha is also removed.

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October 30, 2021, 01:57:01 PM
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I see that I can buy bonus spin on WOF by my RP, so I bought 1 bonus spin on WOF for every free roll, but when I go to spin the wheel, I see that the client seed section is FROZEN and I can't change it.

Then I refresh the page to see if the client seed is change and the system not allowed me to spin the wheel and erase my bonus for this roll.

SO WTF?!

I followed your way to change the client seed you mentioned on the freebitco.in thread just a few minutes ago.
I was able to change the client seed successfully so I think it must be a technical error for the time being.
May be you can try again for a new spin tomorrow and it would work this time  Smiley

Also, I think you would have missed a requirement for the no captcha for free roll.
You had 0 satoshis as per the video whereas you have to hold the amount for the free roll.

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October 30, 2021, 02:01:59 PM
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In the video I open the window that called PLAY FREE BTC WITHOUT CAPTCHA , so I think that is obviously what is mean, if you are user of freebitco.in.

This is an another video, that show captcha problem again(now before the roll):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsvFzwkqOcg

 - and I repeat - When I get enough satoshi I will buy tickets again to show what happen.


If you can't understand nothing - I can't explain more clearly.

I have another strike from them on the same day, same minute, when they put again captcha for me - they reduced my profit from 6 to 3 satoshi.

So for me the situation is pretty clearly and much funny. Just want to see what to happen when to share this info with this forum.

I don't cry for this - I have a second proof that they offer something from years that they can't fulfill, this is just for attraction for users, but I see that have no point to show that here.
No I'm a regular user of freebtc and I assure you that I didn't understand that the screen you were showing in your first video necessarily implied that you need to solve a captcha. So I don't think many people had understood that too. If you need to solve a captcha why not just showing it?
Well I have not this kind of screen on my account so I can't say what is wrong with your account.
But did you try to buy some FUN tokens? Because if you own 2500 FUN tokens the captcha is also removed.

Premium Membership Program - NO CAPTCHA!

The Premium Membership Program starts on 15th March, but we're activating a KEY BENEFIT for FUN Token holders NOW:

SAY NO TO CAPTCHA
If you already own, or if you buy and hold more than 2,500 FUN Tokens at FreeBitco.in, you don't have to solve a CAPTCHA to play the FREE BTC game. Buy FUN Tokens now to save time and win more at FreeBitco.in.
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Like I told before, years ago I bought that what they want to remove the captcha and I had no problem before the doom day, which match with angry post from TheQuin.

After that I bought three times tickets(the amount they want each time) and the captcha not removed. The site want more and more, so the things are clear.

Don't have a point I give them more money.
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October 30, 2021, 02:06:09 PM
Last edit: October 30, 2021, 02:16:18 PM by Saint-loup
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No I'm a regular user of freebtc and I assure you that I didn't understand that the screen you were showing in your first video necessarily implied that you need to solve a captcha. So I don't think many people had understood that too. If you need to solve a captcha why not just showing it?
Well I have not this kind of screen on my account so I can't say what is wrong with your account.
But did you try to buy some FUN tokens? Because if you own 2500 FUN tokens the captcha is also removed.

Premium Membership Program - NO CAPTCHA!

The Premium Membership Program starts on 15th March, but we're activating a KEY BENEFIT for FUN Token holders NOW:

SAY NO TO CAPTCHA
If you already own, or if you buy and hold more than 2,500 FUN Tokens at FreeBitco.in, you don't have to solve a CAPTCHA to play the FREE BTC game. Buy FUN Tokens now to save time and win more at FreeBitco.in.
[...]


Like I told before, years ago I bought that what they want to remove the captcha and I had no problem before the doom day, which match with angry post from TheQuin.

After that I bought three times tickets and the captcha not removed. The site want more and more, so the things are clear.

Don't have a point I give them more money.
I was just trying to give you a solution even if I have no explanation about the problem you are currently experiencing. You wouldn't give them money because the FUN tokens would be yours, you would be able to sell them or to transfer them whenever you want (but I'm not sure you would keep the benefit of the free captcha feature)

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October 30, 2021, 02:09:21 PM
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I see that I can buy bonus spin on WOF by my RP, so I bought 1 bonus spin on WOF for every free roll, but when I go to spin the wheel, I see that the client seed section is FROZEN and I can't change it.

Then I refresh the page to see if the client seed is change and the system not allowed me to spin the wheel and erase my bonus for this roll.

SO WTF?!

I followed your way to change the client seed you mentioned on the freebitco.in thread just a few minutes ago.
I was able to change the client seed successfully so I think it must be a technical error for the time being.
May be you can try again for a new spin tomorrow and it would work this time  Smiley

Also, I think you would have missed a requirement for the no captcha for free roll.
You had 0 satoshis as per the video whereas you have to hold the amount for the free roll.

This applies to free spin from email or from bonus spin when you bought it from yours RP?

Also I told that I bought the tickets to unlock the captcha again, because I was unlock it before.(This is like you was verified before and years ago they want your id again and tell you are not verified.)
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November 01, 2021, 02:27:13 AM
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This is the video that I made:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVQ0xczNMY8

I show that I played much more than necessary to unlock the captcha.

There is nothing that can be understood from the Youtube video you had posted apart from showing the requirements and clicking on a free roll with captcha. Did you try clicking on 'PLAY WITHOUT CAPTCHA' to try the free roll without captcha? The minimum payout keeps changing based on the price of BTC. You can also see in the same free roll page, the % you need to increase the bonus. This is based on my understanding.
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