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November 04, 2021, 09:17:32 AM
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Information from local forums isn't going to help OP. His account got banned and the right way of asking a pardon or finding out why is to post in Meta or contact a mod/admin. What knowledge would users of his local board have that could help him?

The main idea is whenever a ban is placed it must follows a cogent reason to back it up, i dont plagiarize and if possibly any reason could have lead to the ban then it could have been temporary ban instead of permanent ban, I cant remember precisely maybe by (theymos) on a thread i red on the forum talking about placing ban, which is in three stages, provided its not an automatic permanent ban offense. Temporary ban could include 3 days warning temporary ban, 7 days warning temporary ban before a permanent ban can be placed on such user, this is the protocol I know the forum has in place.

In this my own case, the reason for the ban remains unclear.
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November 04, 2021, 09:31:42 AM
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The main idea is whenever a ban is placed it must follows a cogent reason to back it up,
It mustn't, but I agree that it should show the user the exact reason why he/she got banned. That would reduce the number of threads being created for the sole reason of asking why. All the ban message says is that plagiarism or spam are the most common reasons.

i dont plagiarize and if possibly any reason could have lead to the ban then it could have been temporary ban instead of permanent ban
It's been discussed many times in the past, but the fact remains that if users are find plagiarizing, most of them get permanently banned. Some are pardoned after an appeal, but many aren't. 

In this my own case, the reason for the ban remains unclear.
You will have to wait for some input from a mod. I have seen that hilariousandco sometimes explains his decisions if he is the one that issued the ban. mprep is also willing to discuss his view of the rules from time to time.

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November 04, 2021, 10:04:38 AM
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In this my own case, the reason for the ban remains unclear.
Even though it probably didn't cause your ban (as you usually shared the reference link at the bottom of your copypasta), one thing I don't understand: why you ignored all the warning that what you are doing is not the proper way deal with verbatim copy?

I (and few others) warned you almost two months ago about that, yet you continued doing the same. For some reason mods decided not to act on my report, and that post is still there. Who knows, if you got more of your topics reported maybe you would realize that what you are doing is wrong.

@Nathrixxx  Not a single word in your post has been written by you, as you just copy/pasted everything from that article without properly formatting the text and without adding anything of your own. Classic low value merit fishing shitpost that has been reported to the mods.

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November 04, 2021, 10:25:44 AM
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In this my own case, the reason for the ban remains unclear.
Even though it probably didn't cause your ban (as you usually shared the reference link at the bottom of your copypasta), one thing I don't understand: why you ignored all the warning that what you are doing is not the proper way deal with verbatim copy?

I (and few others) warned you almost two months ago about that, yet you continued doing the same. For some reason mods decided not to act on my report, and that post is still there. Who knows, if you got more of your topics reported maybe you would realize that what you are doing is wrong.

@Nathrixxx  Not a single word in your post has been written by you, as you just copy/pasted everything from that article without properly formatting the text and without adding anything of your own. Classic low value merit fishing shitpost that has been reported to the mods.

Having links in my post is what i do and i don't think its against the rule while i ensure quoting where necessary but i think what i try to avoid is excessive quoting where by i think if the link is there it will serve a reference point for further read ups, if you check my profile you'll discover not every of my post is an article post, i also made posts from my thinking. The quoting style you advise only suggest the post could be more appropriated in standard than not, and NOT that i "plagiarized".

I also stated on the appeal on occasions whereby some of the high ranked members do put me through on how to post with an accurate standard and I've been improving on ever since. I believe learning is a process and you cant expect the tempo of high rank member compared with the low rank members, experience is a perfect teacher.
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November 04, 2021, 11:23:27 AM
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The quoting style you advise only suggest the post could be more appropriated in standard than not, and NOT that i "plagiarized".

Since I often send reports to moderators, I noticed that if an account receives a lot of complaints about various reasons, it still has a lot of chances to improve. But, sometimes, as I understand it, there comes a critical moment when patience runs out.
You still very desperately defend your posts, believing that you did everything right. But why don't you think that your past mistakes could be forgotten?

Rikafip just gave you an example of how you shouldn't have done, but you run into your "truth". What do you want from the moderators, since you think that you did everything right?
And then, now you have a lot of time, you can view the requests of others and observe how long some accounts waited for the ban to be canceled, while others did not even wait.
One thing I noticed is that the lack of responses from the moderators is a very bad sign for a banned account.

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November 04, 2021, 11:48:53 AM
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Rikafip just gave you an example of how you shouldn't have done, but you run into your "truth". What do you want from the moderators, since you think that you did everything right?

I solicit to know the reason for the ban. So as to avoid further reoccurrence and i will make amend to all necessary observations as suggested if my account is unbanned.
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November 04, 2021, 01:03:38 PM
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If one of your accounts gets banned, they will all get banned if discovered. On Bitcointalk, they don't ban the account, they ban the person behind the account making the posts. So if you get banned and you come back to start over, that new account of yours will also get banned once a connection has been proven. It's called ban evasion and is against the rules. If you get banned, all you an do is create an alt account to appeal the ban.

maybe they will be sad if it happens..the contribution is high but the correction is too late..i personally prefer 1 account but it can be useful for many people..a lot of work is not done, even a topic of discussion is not finished..I learned a lot about masters here ..


Surely you have encountered newbie with 1 post who make off-topic reply which include random link. That kind of user who share shady website/perform SEO spam is banned on daily basis and i report them almost everyday.
I've seen posts like that.. of course they don't want to be like that.. because maybe they want to post quickly but don't understand a good and correct discussion.. will be tested with time. newbies can develop and mature with forums not just rankings that are pursued but the art of discussion and useful knowledge .. it will be very difficult to accept the fact when the post is deleted for beginners .. between continuing or stopping a criticism to build ..nice to learn with you

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