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November 17, 2021, 03:24:08 PM
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I just got a message from a user that I have never contacted with and have never even had any discussion with previously. I'm having a hard time understanding the content of the message, but it's definitely a message I never asked for. Can someone of you explain to me what this message mean? I haven't been able to publish the sender of this message, but will act quickly for the sender in case this is a scam attempt.

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Пpивeтcтвyю, вac бecпoкoит мeнeджep oбмeннoгo cepвиca BitHowen.com .
Ecть oтличнoe пpeдлoжeниe для мнoгoyвaжaeмыx пoльзoвaтeлeй и cтapoжил фopyмa.

Xoтeл бы вaм пpeдocтaвить вoзмoжнocть пpoизвecти oбмeн c пoмoщью нaшeгo cepвиca c нyлeвoй кoмиccиeй, зa вaш oтзыв o нaшeй paбoтe.
Cyммa oбмeнa минимaльнo вплoть oт 300pyб/100гpн в зaвиcимocти oт нaпpaвлeния oбмeнa.

Moжeм пpoизвecти cдeлкy кaк чepeз личкy фopyмa тaк и чepeз тeлeгpaм.
Bыбop вaлют вeлик, oбмeняeм yдoбнyю для вac.
Mы кoмиccию нe вoзьмeм, тo ecть кypc бyдeт oфициaльный кaк нa Binance.com

Пocлe oбмeнa oт вac я xoтeл бы пoпpocить ocтaвить oтзыв  нa фopyмe, и нa пape мoнитopингoв oбмeнникoв.

Кaк вы cмoтpитe нa этo пpeдлoжeниe?


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November 17, 2021, 03:29:45 PM
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It seems like Russian. Cool

If you don't even understand the content then definitely you can use the report to admin option available under PM because its literally sent voluntarily by someone and probably multiple people received this if its actually about scam attempt.

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November 17, 2021, 03:31:07 PM
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Via Google translate:

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Thankfully, you will be safe from the BitHowen.com exchange service manager.
It has a great offer for many important users and has a long format.

I would like to give you the opportunity to carry out an exchange with the help of our service with a zero commission, for your feedback on our work.
The exchange rate is minimal from 300 rubles / 100 UAH, depending on the direction of exchange.

We can make the transaction both through a personal format and through a TV.
Select the currencies, change the one that suits you.
We don’t take a commission, so the currency will be official like on Binance.com

After exchanging from you, I would like to ask you to leave a response on the forum, and to monitor the exchangers.

How do you look at this offer?

So yea, without any context, it pretty much looks like a scam attempt. Just use the "report the admin" option and block 'em.

Also, probably move this to the Meta section.

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November 17, 2021, 03:48:08 PM
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It seems like Russian. Cool
Seems right, it's Russian.

If you don't even understand the content then definitely you can use the report to admin option available under PM because its literally sent voluntarily by someone and probably multiple people received this if its actually about scam attempt.
Maybe I'll report it to a moderator but only after I really understand what the message mean.

So yea, without any context, it pretty much looks like a scam attempt. Just use the "report the admin" option and block 'em.
Thank you for your help.
As I can understand from the translated of the message, someone is trying to trick me with his service offer because obviously I never knew about BitHowen.com. Have you heard of it so far?

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November 17, 2021, 04:05:22 PM
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Thank you for your help.
As I can understand from the translated of the message, someone is trying to trick me with his service offer because obviously I never knew about BitHowen.com. Have you heard of it so far?

Never heard of it, as even if it was a legitimate website, I ain't from Russia. Tongue

After a quick inspection, the website itself looks shady despite me not understanding anything(it's in Russian, obviously); and there isn't available traffic data from Alexa and SimilarWeb.

We can probably conclude that it's either a scam, or a very new and very badly run business. Both reasons should be enough for you to not touch it. Smiley

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November 17, 2021, 04:11:39 PM
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. Have you heard of it so far?
There's an account with the same nick but he seems to be a bounty hunter- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1511185
Also there are few post on this website by Coolersid- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5301048.msg57158413#msg57158413
Try forum search, you may find some more result. I didn’t try to check out what the site all about.

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November 17, 2021, 05:16:46 PM
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We can probably conclude that it's either a scam, or a very new and very badly run business. Both reasons should be enough for you to not touch it. Smiley
I have report the message to all admin but no one has responded yet. This seems clear to me as something of a poor service where there is a possibility of scam if someone agrees to try the service. Reporting it to admin like that should suffice for now although the tag would be helpful for other users to notice.

There's an account with the same nick but he seems to be a bounty hunter- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1511185
Also there are few post on this website by Coolersid- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5301048.msg57158413#msg57158413
Try forum search, you may find some more result. I didn’t try to check out what the site all about.
Great find, RapTarX. It will now be safe to reveal who the culprit is to you.


Пpивeтcтвyю, вac бecпoкoит мeнeджep oбмeннoгo cepвиca BitHowen.com .
Ecть oтличнoe пpeдлoжeниe для мнoгoyвaжaeмыx пoльзoвaтeлeй и cтapoжил фopyмa.

Xoтeл бы вaм пpeдocтaвить вoзмoжнocть пpoизвecти oбмeн c пoмoщью нaшeгo cepвиca c нyлeвoй кoмиccиeй, зa вaш oтзыв o нaшeй paбoтe.
Cyммa oбмeнa минимaльнo вплoть oт 300pyб/100гpн в зaвиcимocти oт нaпpaвлeния oбмeнa.

Moжeм пpoизвecти cдeлкy кaк чepeз личкy фopyмa тaк и чepeз тeлeгpaм.
Bыбop вaлют вeлик, oбмeняeм yдoбнyю для вac.
Mы кoмиccию нe вoзьмeм, тo ecть кypc бyдeт oфициaльный кaк нa Binance.com

Пocлe oбмeнa oт вac я xoтeл бы пoпpocить ocтaвить oтзыв  нa фopyмe, и нa пape мoнитopингoв oбмeнникoв.

Кaк вы cмoтpитe нa этo пpeдлoжeниe?

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November 17, 2021, 05:33:14 PM
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We can probably conclude that it's either a scam, or a very new and very badly run business. Both reasons should be enough for you to not touch it. Smiley
I have report the message to all admin but no one has responded yet. This seems clear to me as something of a poor service where there is a possibility of scam if someone agrees to try the service. Reporting it to admin like that should suffice for now although the tag would be helpful for other users to notice.
I am not sure you will receive any PM about action taken from admin when you report the PM but the actual treatment is the user will get temp ban for first time violation and if the found to repeat the same then they will get more strict treatment like perma ban.

But I know some of the most reputed members even got temp ban for sending PM even without actual intention of promoting the service they are talking about.



You can leave a tag with no worry when you feel the user attempted to scam you via PM.

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November 17, 2021, 11:28:07 PM
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For those wondering what justifies being reported I'd say If you receive any type of personal message which you deem is unwanted, you can report it. The admins then will likely see if this is something that is happening on the mass, and if it is deal with it accordingly.

I am not sure you will receive any PM about action taken from admin when you report the PM but the actual treatment is the user will get temp ban for first time violation and if the found to repeat the same then they will get more strict treatment like perma ban.
Could be a temp ban or could be permanent. Depends on a case by case basis I would say, since you may assume they have only contacted you, but in reality they may have sent it to hundreds of users, and that likely justifies more than a temp ban.

As for confirmation that the report has been acted upon, probably not unless a Global mod or admin thinks it's justified.
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November 18, 2021, 04:13:36 AM
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It doesn't matter whether the message was a scam attempt or not. This is an unsolicited message with links anyway which is enough to ban the sender from reporting to admins. In the future, you can do it. Posting here isn't really necessary in that case. Rather than you may post on reputation or scam accusation board about that scam site. So others would be aware of that and can stay away. Report itself enough to punish the sender.

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November 18, 2021, 04:32:09 PM
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It doesn't matter whether the message was a scam attempt or not. This is an unsolicited message with links anyway which is enough to ban the sender from reporting to admins. In the future, you can do it. Posting here isn't really necessary in that case. Rather than you may post on reputation or scam accusation board about that scam site. So others would be aware of that and can stay away. Report itself enough to punish the sender.
Mate, this is my first time getting a PM like this so it's a good idea to ask before taking any action that might mislead me. What I love about all of you is being willing to give me a little insight into what the proper course of action should be so that it can add a lot to my experience on forum especially about unsolicited message.

So far I don't know if moderators or admin have taken action on the report, but I will no longer worry about the sender's attempt as I can give him and others a warning by tag the sender's profile. This thread is closed.

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November 18, 2021, 04:55:52 PM
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What you consider an unsolicited message may not be the same for others. The fact the PM contains a link doesn't change something too.
Where does it say we can't send links in PM. I've never used a forum in which you'll be banned if you send a PM (with or without a link).
Banning a user for sending a message is ridiculous. It should be considered case by case. Does the user do it only once or twice? To some members or to a large scale? What kind of message it is? A simple question, spam, a scam attempt, Etc...

If someone considers any message received as unsolicited, then better for him to turn off the option to receive PM from all users.

Imagine you contact someone to ask a question. So you could report the message as unsolicited? That's hilarious, in this case, better to close the PM option

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November 18, 2021, 05:28:41 PM
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I agree about your opinion and it should be resolved case by case. The admin or moderator will consider and also review whether the report is valid or does not prove anything as reported so that they have the right to decide whether the user is blocked or not.

I'd also like to hear your thought on the PM sent to me as attached above with a service offer I've never heard of before. I tageed it to let people know about the service simply because of its management which I could consider a scam attempt, but I'm willing to remove it otherwise. What do you think?

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November 18, 2021, 05:48:14 PM
Last edit: November 18, 2021, 06:13:40 PM by Bohdan820
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^
UPD.

I also just received a message from this user. I just like you, have not previously contacted him and have not asked for any services.
I suspect this is a scammer.

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Пpивeтcтвyю, вac бecпoкoит мeнeджep oбмeннoгo cepвиca BitHowen.com .
Ecть oтличнoe пpeдлoжeниe для мнoгoyвaжaeмыx пoльзoвaтeлeй и cтapoжил фopyмa.

Xoтeл бы вaм пpeдocтaвить вoзмoжнocть пpoизвecти oбмeн c пoмoщью нaшeгo cepвиca c нyлeвoй кoмиccиeй, зa вaш oтзыв o нaшeй paбoтe.
Cyммa oбмeнa минимaльнo вплoть oт 300pyб/100гpн в зaвиcимocти oт нaпpaвлeния oбмeнa.

Moжeм пpoизвecти cдeлкy кaк чepeз личкy фopyмa тaк и чepeз тeлeгpaм.
Bыбop вaлют вeлик, oбмeняeм yдoбнyю для вac.
Mы кoмиccию нe вoзьмeм, тo ecть кypc бyдeт oфициaльный кaк нa Binance.com

Пocлe oбмeнa oт вac я xoтeл бы пoпpocить ocтaвить oтзыв  нa фopyмe, и нa пape мoнитopингoв oбмeнникoв.

Кaк вы cмoтpитe нa этo пpeдлoжeниe?


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November 18, 2021, 06:00:39 PM
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I just got a message from a user that I have never contacted with and have never even had any discussion with previously. I'm having a hard time understanding the content of the message, but it's definitely a message I never asked for. Can someone of you explain to me what this message mean? I haven't been able to publish the sender of this message, but will act quickly for the sender in case this is a scam attempt.

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Пpивeтcтвyю, вac бecпoкoит мeнeджep oбмeннoгo cepвиca BitHowen.com .
Ecть oтличнoe пpeдлoжeниe для мнoгoyвaжaeмыx пoльзoвaтeлeй и cтapoжил фopyмa.

Xoтeл бы вaм пpeдocтaвить вoзмoжнocть пpoизвecти oбмeн c пoмoщью нaшeгo cepвиca c нyлeвoй кoмиccиeй, зa вaш oтзыв o нaшeй paбoтe.
Cyммa oбмeнa минимaльнo вплoть oт 300pyб/100гpн в зaвиcимocти oт нaпpaвлeния oбмeнa.

Moжeм пpoизвecти cдeлкy кaк чepeз личкy фopyмa тaк и чepeз тeлeгpaм.
Bыбop вaлют вeлик, oбмeняeм yдoбнyю для вac.
Mы кoмиccию нe вoзьмeм, тo ecть кypc бyдeт oфициaльный кaк нa Binance.com

Пocлe oбмeнa oт вac я xoтeл бы пoпpocить ocтaвить oтзыв  нa фopyмe, и нa пape мoнитopингoв oбмeнникoв.

Кaк вы cмoтpитe нa этo пpeдлoжeниe?
What are you doing, why are you copy-pasting all the content I wrote in the OP without adding any detail to the post? Without editing anything in your post in some time, then I and others can report you plagiarizing my post and you will be banned for it.

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I just got a message from a user that I have never contacted with and have never even had any discussion with previously. I'm having a hard time understanding the content of the message, but it's definitely a message I never asked for. Can someone of you explain to me what this message mean? I haven't been able to publish the sender of this message, but will act quickly for the sender in case this is a scam attempt.

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Пpивeтcтвyю, вac бecпoкoит мeнeджep oбмeннoгo cepвиca BitHowen.com .
Ecть oтличнoe пpeдлoжeниe для мнoгoyвaжaeмыx пoльзoвaтeлeй и cтapoжил фopyмa.

Xoтeл бы вaм пpeдocтaвить вoзмoжнocть пpoизвecти oбмeн c пoмoщью нaшeгo cepвиca c нyлeвoй кoмиccиeй, зa вaш oтзыв o нaшeй paбoтe.
Cyммa oбмeнa минимaльнo вплoть oт 300pyб/100гpн в зaвиcимocти oт нaпpaвлeния oбмeнa.

Moжeм пpoизвecти cдeлкy кaк чepeз личкy фopyмa тaк и чepeз тeлeгpaм.
Bыбop вaлют вeлик, oбмeняeм yдoбнyю для вac.
Mы кoмиccию нe вoзьмeм, тo ecть кypc бyдeт oфициaльный кaк нa Binance.com

Пocлe oбмeнa oт вac я xoтeл бы пoпpocить ocтaвить oтзыв  нa фopyмe, и нa пape мoнитopингoв oбмeнникoв.

Кaк вы cмoтpитe нa этo пpeдлoжeниe?
What are you doing, why are you copy-pasting all the content I wrote in the OP without adding any detail to the post? Without editing anything in your post in some time, then I and others can report you plagiarizing my post and you will be banned for it.
I'm sorry I was wrong.
I will correct my message with my thoughts on this.

UPD. Changed.
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