Air conditioning and miners

[so98nn]

13 x 13 feet is still moderately big room for one miner.
For 5 miners the heat would be a lot and all you have to do is keep the room temperature to the lowest.

I see lot of technical details above but frankly speaking when you set up your miners and do the work then you will understand actual situation in the room by assessing it with few factors such as:
1) You atmospheric temperature
2) Your room area
3) Volume of your Air Conditioner (if central then this wont count)


I have my own set up of two miners with similar room dimensions as yours but a little larger by 2 feet.

Honestly, that's huge area.

My set up is in temperate area where atmospheric temperature goes above  45 °C in summer and is always around 30-35°C on the average day.

I have only one Air Condition in place which is also only 15 tons and is average size AC in my country.

The whole set up can be seen as follows:



I would like to point out that I have made this assembly in a room which was built with 2-3 inch plywood and gypsum material. This is very poorly constructed in terms of fixed structure and thus there are minor openings in between two sheets and many times outer air flows in which could be hot air blow making huge fluctuations.

I am telling you the negative's in my set up because even after these unwelcomed conditions my miners temperature is around 40-60 °C. This further drops to 28-30°C in the winter and rainy season.


Image: Represents 2 Hrs of Graph for my miner with Sapphire Cards.[/center]

Scale & Descriptions:

......... ---> Watt Graph (Yellow Dotted Line)
_____ ---> Hash Rate (Purple Line)
_____ ---> Temperature (Red Line)
_____ ---> Fan Speed (Blue Line)


You might be setting up ASICs, GPU's etc but remember one thing, just keep the Air Conditioners airflow directly onto your machines and you are good to go.

In my case as you can see, I have kept the miners fan direction opposite to each other and away from the AC's flow.

This literally sucks the cool air and throws away in the room. This does not at all heat up the room because over the time your room as whole gets cooled down!



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[BitcoinSoloMiner]

Thanks for your replies. Nice information.

[Queentoshi]

We are looking at renting office space for s19j pro

There is a lack of air flow (fresh air) but there is air conditioning

Does air conditioning cause problems for miners?

The room is fairly small about 13 feet by 13 feet

Will the room be able to accommodate 1 miner? How about if the operation was scaled anywhere up to 5 miners?

Since you already know why you are renting the office space, it will be proper and reasonable to get a space that is adequate for the equipment you have now and also will be adequate for any additional equipment you may decide to get in the future. You need to get a space according to what you need, not getting a space first and trying to force all you have to fit that space. For a comfortable mining, you need a good space (in case you also want to expand) and a good air flow, they are necessary criteria.

[BitcoinSoloMiner]

We are looking at renting office space for s19j pro

There is a lack of air flow (fresh air) but there is air conditioning

Does air conditioning cause problems for miners?

The room is fairly small about 13 feet by 13 feet

Will the room be able to accommodate 1 miner? How about if the operation was scaled anywhere up to 5 miners?

Since you already know why you are renting the office space, it will be proper and reasonable to get a space that is adequate for the equipment you have now and also will be adequate for any additional equipment you may decide to get in the future. You need to get a space according to what you need, not getting a space first and trying to force all you have to fit that space. For a comfortable mining, you need a good space (in case you also want to expand) and a good air flow, they are necessary criteria.

It ended up being fine, thanks for your input

[FP91G]

The whole set up can be seen as follows:

When mining is in trend, you can use the air conditioner to cool the video cards. Now this mining farm is unprofitable even without an air conditioner, and with an air conditioner there will only be losses. Perhaps the air conditioner consumes more electricity than the mining farm. And the conclusion is very simple: you need to choose the right room with the possibility of installing inexpensive ventilation.

[Ben Barubal]

      Now, as for the miner, if it brings air conditioning to them, I don't think it's a good idea based on what I've read about it. But I'm still not sure about this.

But others say that if you mine, the room where it will be placed should be cold because mining machine it gets hot, and when that happens, it will consume a lot of electricity in your home.

[fennic]

We are looking at renting office space for s19j pro

There is a lack of air flow (fresh air) but there is air conditioning

Does air conditioning cause problems for miners?

The room is fairly small about 13 feet by 13 feet

Will the room be able to accommodate 1 miner? How about if the operation was scaled anywhere up to 5 miners?

Sir conditioning is good for large amount of miners, those who have at least 100+ miners that are running 24/7. Cause they produce so much heat that temperature may rise Upto 50 Degree Centigrade. That's why Air-conditioning is good for the miners nevertheless they might stop working and it could be bad for machinery.
That's why I think that natural humidity plays important role cause more humidity more miners will work at its better state.

[FP91G]

      Now, as for the miner, if it brings air conditioning to them, I don't think it's a good idea based on what I've read about it. But I'm still not sure about this.

But others say that if you mine, the room where it will be placed should be cold because mining machine it gets hot, and when that happens, it will consume a lot of electricity in your home.

I used air conditioning because it was uncomfortable in the office in the summer. Cold air blew on the mining farm, it's safe. But I have cheap electricity, so it's cheaper for me to spend $400 on an air conditioner with installation. But then 1 video card gave 3 dollars of profit per day.

[stompix]

When mining is in trend, you can use the air conditioner to cool the video cards.

Videocards are not ASICs, I don't know why some still compare the situations like it's not a real difference between a mining rig and a few s19.
One RX 580 draws at peak 180W a 6700 XT 230W, you need 12-15 cards just to match one single s19 in power drawn and obviously heat release, in that picture above there are only 12 cards, the amount of heat they would release is still below what a single miner would do.
We're talking here about cooling a closed room with an AC unit in which you've let 3-4 3KW heaters tuned on, do you think it will work?

Cooling more than a few miners in a closed room is just asking for troubles, not even mention the costs, in an already vented room why have a few AC running when you could have some extra 100W fans that would throw out more hot air then the AC is able to cool?
If none is possible, why not search for a different space?

[CryptounityCUT]

We are looking at renting office space for s19j pro

There is a lack of air flow (fresh air) but there is air conditioning

Does air conditioning cause problems for miners?

The room is fairly small about 13 feet by 13 feet

Will the room be able to accommodate 1 miner? How about if the operation was scaled anywhere up to 5 miners?

AC is ok, it does not just cools your temperature in the room but it also takes the humidity out of the room. Just before use, go and disinfect the AC and all filters.

[gunhell16]

We are looking at renting office space for s19j pro

There is a lack of air flow (fresh air) but there is air conditioning

Does air conditioning cause problems for miners?

The room is fairly small about 13 feet by 13 feet

Will the room be able to accommodate 1 miner? How about if the operation was scaled anywhere up to 5 miners?

As far as I know running s9j pro it runs 24 hours a day, and will provide you with something 46$ a day, and that's around 1900$ a month.
And the only thing you need to feed is the electricity and the fresh air and the currency you will earn for this is Bitcoin of course.
Therefore, as long as you keep it in your secure wallet. So I don't think the aircon is causing a problems for the miners.

Aside from that, the noise of s9j pro is like equivalent of 80 decibels, meaning its louder than a hair drier.
But your room of course can accomodate that miner.

[KiaKia]

Make a deal with the office owner, create new windows or expand the present one, I've seen people do this and it works just fine, I went to engineering school and I learnt that air conditioners are very bad for electronics, there are times where I have to dry a electronic panel of either Laptop or LCD Tv before they start working, the users are using these machines in a office with A/C on every day.

[NotFuzzyWarm]

It's not so much that AC is 'bad' for electronics. It is *how* they are used and how much humid air is being exchanged from outside as well.
>Never have the cold air directly blowing onto equipment. That can often cause condensation if the humidity in the room is too high.

>If available use AC systems that are designed for cooling equipment - not rooms. They are built to higher standards than consumer/commercial air conditioners which are made for cooling rooms & buildings. More to the point, true cabinet coolers are designed to cool enclosed ares that have a high heat input from the hardware being ran. That setup results in a regular AC either never shutting off or short-cycling where it turns off for a minute or so and the then the rapidly rising temperature forces it to turn on again. That is very hard on the compressor.

Equipment cabinet coolers operate differently and cycle the compressor between cooling and a bypass mode which does not damage the compressor.

[stompix]

As far as I know running s9j pro it runs 24 hours a day, and will provide you with something 46$ a day, and that's around 1900$ a month.

2021 wants its miner profits back!
I assume you're talking about the S19 pro since for an S9 the whole thing is ridiculous, but even so, the S19J Pro gets 100Th/s , at the current income of ≈ $ 0.0737 per TH/S that makes $7.37. So about, 1/6 of what you thought!

I went to engineering school and I learnt that air conditioners are very bad for electronics, there are times where I have to dry a electronic panel of either Laptop or LCD Tv before they start working,

I've been in a lot of offices, I've had my laptop around in a lot of meetings in AC fitted rooms, I have AC in my house at my other family members where I went with a lot of my laptops I've had around for 15 years but never, not even once did I have to dry the laptop for moisture collected inside! If you had something as bad didn't you have mold on the walls also?

[FP91G]

It's not so much that AC is 'bad' for electronics. It is *how* they are used and how much humid air is being exchanged from outside as well.
>Never have the cold air directly blowing onto equipment. That can often cause condensation if the humidity in the room is too high.

>If available use AC systems that are designed for cooling equipment - not rooms. They are built to higher standards than consumer/commercial air conditioners which are made for cooling rooms & buildings. More to the point, true cabinet coolers are designed to cool enclosed ares that have a high heat input from the hardware being ran. That setup results in a regular AC either never shutting off or short-cycling where it turns off for a minute or so and the then the rapidly rising temperature forces it to turn on again. That is very hard on the compressor.

Equipment cabinet coolers operate differently and cycle the compressor between cooling and a bypass mode which does not damage the compressor.

Industrial cooling equipment is expensive, and after calculating the cost, Mayer will change his mind about installing equipment. The household air conditioner has a 2 or 3 year warranty, and if you do not direct the flow of cold air to the mining farm from a close distance, then there will be no problems.

[Alexeymalutin]

We did the same on L3++ but it really depends on a price and electricity price in your country

[safar1980]

 

Your post provides some great tips for using air conditioning with electronic equipment. Managing humidity and airflow is key to ensuring the equipment's longevity. It's fascinating to see how the setup and type of AC system can make such a difference.

Moisture can do a lot of damage to mining equipment, but from my experience and I can say that video cards work very well in wet areas. The danger is caused by the ingress of liquid on video cards and electronic components.
I've been mining in a garage for many years, and the garage is always humid in the winter. In the spring, check the roof for leaks, because 1 drop of water can cause a lot of damage.

[Daltonik]

Do you think we could add floor standing air refrigerator?

Such as this:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B084ZL4L1P

Of course, you can use a mobile air conditioner to create a comfortable temperature in a room with a miner, just use with it a hose for a portable air conditioner that takes heat outside, something like this:

[FP91G]

Do you think we could add floor standing air refrigerator?

Such as this:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B084ZL4L1P

Of course, you can use a mobile air conditioner to create a comfortable temperature in a room with a miner, just use with it a hose for a portable air conditioner that takes heat outside, something like this:

Such air conditioners are used when it is prohibited to use split systems or the installation of split systems must be agreed upon with the owner of the building, but they are very noisy. They will be louder than video cards. And some models leak water, so it is better to use ventilation.

[philipma1957]

We have 2 of these 3 ton 36000 btu each.

but we feed the hot air out of the mine's warehouse

this is one before the white tube for heat exhaust was vented outdoors