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November 03, 2021, 07:29:57 PM
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Please forgive my ignorance but I kept clicking "Random" to see my luck. All the wallets are empty, it suddenly struck me. Maybe this site only shows the empty wallets and never is able to show wallets that actually have funds in them.

I know the argument of private keys and how large they are, the 2^265 or whatever that number is. Also I know the argument of the sand in the whole world is yet smaller than the number of bitcoin private keys but what I'm really asking here, does the site actually work? in other words if I'm super-super lucky will the site show an actual wallet with funds? because in my mind I really doubt it. even though I want to believe it.

Also what are the odds that the first and last few pages contain wallets with "tx" in them and 0 balance, is it a coincidence? I think the site is a fraud and just try's for people to enter their own private key in the search to see which page they're in. When in reality there isn't an actual pages and it just generates empty wallet zero tx keys no matter which page you click. Except for first and last few pages the author puts in some wallets with TX and zero balance just to show people some excitement, also I noticed he inserted some wallet with TX and 0 balance in few pages in the middle, maybe 3-4 pages.

There are also similar sites like this one and also shows all zero balance and zero tx. Plus some GitHub scripts are also based on the same style of key generation which I believe all will come out empty as well.
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November 03, 2021, 07:39:12 PM
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This site works by generating private keys and corresponding addresses on client's side. It doesn't have a database of all possible private keys, because there's not enough space in the world for such database. You will not find any wallets with balance there, it would be like winning a lottery millions of times in a row.

Some of those addresses have transactions because someone chose manually their private key, for example number 42 or 666 or 1337. If you are generating all private keys in order from 0 up to maximum, you will see quite a lot of such keys and addresses.

But again, you will not see them with balance, because there are bots that are setup to monitor every new block to see if such a vulnerable address has received any transactions and immediately sweep it. This is why brainwallets are dangerous, someone can setup such programs and monitor billions of words and combinations to see if someone decide to choose one as their brainwallet.

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November 03, 2021, 07:45:18 PM
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This site works by generating private keys and corresponding addresses on client's side. It doesn't have a database of all possible private keys, because there's not enough space in the world for such database. You will not find any wallets with balance there, it would be like winning a lottery millions of times in a row.

Some of those addresses have transactions because someone chose manually their private key, for example number 42 or 666 or 1337. If you are generating all private keys in order from 0 up to maximum, you will see quite a lot of such keys and addresses.

But again, you will not see them with balance, because there are bots that are setup to monitor every new block to see if such a vulnerable address has received any transactions and immediately sweep it. This is why brainwallets are dangerous, someone can setup such programs and monitor billions of words and combinations to see if someone decide to choose one as their brainwallet.

Obviously you haven't read my whole question and just saw the title.
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November 03, 2021, 07:54:29 PM
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So you've been trying to hunt some private keys with balance?
Then these threads might be relevant for you.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3394354.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4345245.60
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4345245.0

Tried out keys.lol back in the past but having no luck on that one.

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November 03, 2021, 08:20:23 PM
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but what I'm really asking here, does the site actually work?
Sure, there is nothing stopping it except math from stumbling across a funded private key. I suspect that if you did, a script somewhere on the site would automatically import the private key and sweep the coins before you could, though.

in other words if I'm super-super lucky will the site show an actual wallet with funds?
It could, but you are almost certainly underestimating just how super-super lucky you would need to be. We are talking in excess of winning the lottery 10 times in a row lucky.

Also what are the odds that the first and last few pages contain wallets with "tx" in them and 0 balance, is it a coincidence?
They keys are not arranged randomly. What you are seeing is private keys in the WIF format, which is converted from the standard HEX format of private keys. The first key which shows 99+ transactions (5HpHagT65TZzG1PH3CSu63k8DbpvD8s5ip4nEB3kEsreAnchuDf), when converted to HEX, is:

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0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001

Someone has obviously picked this private key manually (which is incredibly stupid, but some people do it). You can see the same with other private keys of certain patterns. For example, the private key:

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1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111

Leads to the address 1MsHWS1BnwMc3tLE8G35UXsS58fKipzB7a, which also has some transactions.

I think the site is a fraud and just try's for people to enter their own private key in the search to see which page they're in.
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November 03, 2021, 09:36:30 PM
Last edit: November 06, 2021, 09:30:55 PM by coupable
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Also what are the odds that the first and last few pages contain wallets with "tx" in them and 0 balance, is it a coincidence? I think the site is a fraud and just try's for people to enter their own private key in the search to see which page they're in.
You had a great critical analysis and your conclusion is the only logic response to what those sites are. Just another form of fraud !
For the simple reason that there would be always be ignorant newbies among the experienced users themselves, they will think smart to put their private keys in an unknown third party app.
Please avoid using such a tool or when you encounter with some of them you can always ask in opened forums before using.
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November 03, 2021, 11:44:34 PM
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I remember someone always talking about this kind of tool before I tried them importing those addresses with TX into Electrum wallet.
I sometimes have timing newly funded or received BTC just a second and tried to make a transaction but always got an error. It seems that it's automatically forwarded to another address or wallet. Almost a week trying them but I didn't succeed so it's impossible that you can able to get any bitcoin from this kind of site or generator.

However, if you want to waste your time I found a few of them check the websites below

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November 04, 2021, 04:58:19 AM
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I never recall any stories where somebody lose money from site like that, but of course your suspicion is not entirely impossible. It's hard to find any proof on them, if you're trying your luck might as well build your own script and run it to find your lucky star. Even if they don't have any malicious intention, inputting your private key on a random site is never a good idea anyway. Why would you do that if you're trying to find some sats around in the first place. Well, can't say no one would never do it though.

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November 04, 2021, 10:49:10 AM
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It seems that it's automatically forwarded to another address or wallet.
There are dozens of bots ran by various people monitoring addresses which are derived from private keys which people are likely to use if choosing a private key manually, which is obviously something you should never do. Common patterns, such as all 1s or the very first or last private keys in the space, as I described above, are generally monitored. As are any private keys derived from common brain wallets, such as a SHA256 of the phrase "bitcoin", "password", or "correcthorsebatterystaple". Send any coins to one such address, and there will be a transaction sweeping those coins out broadcast within seconds.
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Also what are the odds that the first and last few pages contain wallets with "tx" in them and 0 balance, is it a coincidence? I think the site is a fraud and just try's for people to enter their own private key in the search to see which page they're in. When in reality there isn't an actual pages and it just generates empty wallet zero tx keys no matter which page you click. Except for first and last few pages the author puts in some wallets with TX and zero balance just to show people some excitement, also I noticed he inserted some wallet with TX and 0 balance in few pages in the middle, maybe 3-4 pages.

Yeah it's a coincidence. I don't know if that's the right word though, because these sites order the private keys. So the first pages are literally the first private keys, and the last pages have the last keys. Random number generators will never make long sequences of zero or one bytes, so it's practically impossible that anyone will get these private keys inside a wallet.

But they're definitely making money out of you by running Monero miners on your browser etc.

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if I'm super-super lucky will the site show an actual wallet with funds? because in my mind I really doubt it. even though I want to believe it.
No one knows what will happen in this case, because, as far as I know, no one has yet been this lucky to find a working private key. The only thing I am confident of is that the owners of the site are making more money by running it than you by searching it for private keys. It may well be that you are working for them as a free miner, once you find a funded private key, they will sweep it before you even have noticed.

I never recall any stories where somebody lose money from site like that, but of course your suspicion is not entirely impossible.

There have been several cases where scammers had promoted malicious "private keys searching" websites and asked bitcointalk users for private keys. For example, https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5509/55099632.html

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I've changed my mind a little bit.

I found a little experiment with $100 bucks. The guy chose a random private key then put that amount into bitcoin inside of Electrum wallet. Then the page was visited that private key page with keys.lol site and then was left alone.

Visiting the amount in blockchain to see if the amount will be wiped out or not. It is still there and wasn't wiped out for a while now which proves that the site doesn't track the pages you go to. Or even track the private key you search for.

I don't know, it feels that if the guy who created the site can track your pages and see if a wallet has BTC, then he would have already taken all the money. But he didn't which means he doesn't have a clue what you look for. Right?
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November 06, 2021, 07:56:44 PM
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But he didn't which means he doesn't have a clue what you look for. Right?
Or it means he saw you deposit $100 and thought "Great, there's a live address. Let's keep an eye on it for when they make an even bigger deposit, and then I'll steal it once it is really worth it."

Just because you weren't scammed immediately doesn't mean it is a safe thing to do or you want be scammed eventually. Lots of scams work on the basis of luring people in with small amounts and encouraging them to deposit a larger amount.
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November 07, 2021, 05:45:48 AM
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Remember that all these sites that offer free money or services don't do it for free, but you try to collect as much information from you as possible.
They may track your IP, or your master key if you search it using your wallet or try to make you download some unkownn apps.
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