OFFERING MY INDIANA RESIDENCY TO PLACE LEGAL LEGITIMATE SPORTS BETS

[bitgov]

I think maybe you misunderstood. I live in Indiana where sports betting is totally legal and vets can be placed at top sports looks like Caesars , Draft kings Sports book, etc... Big legimate companies , betting is totally legal. I don't want to bet myself.
   I am saying I can place wagers for other people on the reputable sites , for people that live in other places where they do not have access to legal gambling. I believe of 50 US States only 3 or 5 have legal gambling.

He doesn't misunderstand cause it doesn't make any sense for anyone whatsoever that want to gamble so bad on a certain game to give her funds to an anonymous stranger to place the bet on her behave not even now that most of the crypto gambling site we have on this forum are now adding sports game to their list.

If the law is very strict in states where gambling is illegal, someone may be afraid to bet with a VPN. If the internet provider passes the info to the police, the consequences can be very unpleasant.
The OP does not want to be anonymous because he wrote that the he will provide all data and links to social media to interested person.

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[Kakmakr]

Your Indiana residency provides you legal rights to gamble in that location, but the moment when you allow other people from other States to gamble on your account, it becomes illegal. (Go read the fine print in the ToS)

Also, what happens if someone use your account to launder dirty money from Child pornography or drugs or even money derived from hacking. (They will trace it back to you... and you will be held responsible for that) 

[Cryptock]

I don`t see any problem to bet other gambling sites for free. Without paying someone for nothing. And one more thing: if betting in my country is illegal, gambling even in Indiana will be illegal for me too. Correct me if i`m not right, but anyway i will defy the law.

You're wrong. The point is that gambling is legal in OPs place (Indiana). In most US states, gambling is illegal regardless of the website. It's just illegal at all. The OP proposes a service that someone who lives in a place where gambling is completely illegal will be able to bet on his name. OP will register and his 'client' will be able to bet 'legally' on this account.

I understand this. It means that OP is betting in legal place. But it also means that i gives him money and get profit from gambling. And i think that it means that i defy the law just using another way. I can gamble in any crypto casino without verification and i need not to pay to someone for it.

I don't know how strict the law in the US is and what tools are used there to block access to online casinos. However, if the OP makes such an offer, then either he or she is unaware that there are casinos where you can gamble anonymously and are VPN-tolerant, or in fact the blockades of internet providers in the US are so good that you can't break through to online casinos.

Exactly. I can`t understand the offer. I`ve break through China firewall, i don`t think that US firewall is more powerful. And in any way i`m breaking the law of my country/state, even if the OP betting. So, i repeat - i don`t understand how such an offer can help me.

I think there is only one logical explanation. A very large number of bookmakers do not accept VPN and using it may result in blocking funds. This offer may be attractive to people who don't want to risk it.

[Slow death]

I don`t see any problem to bet other gambling sites for free. Without paying someone for nothing. And one more thing: if betting in my country is illegal, gambling even in Indiana will be illegal for me too. Correct me if i`m not right, but anyway i will defy the law.

You're wrong. The point is that gambling is legal in OPs place (Indiana). In most US states, gambling is illegal regardless of the website. It's just illegal at all. The OP proposes a service that someone who lives in a place where gambling is completely illegal will be able to bet on his name. OP will register and his 'client' will be able to bet 'legally' on this account.

I understand this. It means that OP is betting in legal place. But it also means that i gives him money and get profit from gambling. And i think that it means that i defy the law just using another way. I can gamble in any crypto casino without verification and i need not to pay to someone for it.

I don't know how strict the law in the US is and what tools are used there to block access to online casinos. However, if the OP makes such an offer, then either he or she is unaware that there are casinos where you can gamble anonymously and are VPN-tolerant, or in fact the blockades of internet providers in the US are so good that you can't break through to online casinos.

Exactly. I can`t understand the offer. I`ve break through China firewall, i don`t think that US firewall is more powerful. And in any way i`m breaking the law of my country/state, even if the OP betting. So, i repeat - i don`t understand how such an offer can help me.

I think there is only one logical explanation. A very large number of bookmakers do not accept VPN and using it may result in blocking funds. This offer may be attractive to people who don't want to risk it.

- the fees he charges are high

- The service he is offering is something dangerous both for him and for the people who use it, of course to be discovered will be difficult, but it is still very risky. if the casino finds out and reports this case to the police, OP could be involved in serious problems

[Cryptock]

- the fees he charges are high

If someone is unable to bet at all because it is prohibited by law and has no other choice, fees may not be high.

- The service he is offering is something dangerous both for him and for the people who use it, of course to be discovered will be difficult, but it is still very risky. if the casino finds out and reports this case to the police, OP could be involved in serious problems

Here, both sides will have to trust each other. I don't think someone from outside could find out about such a deal unless they tell someone about it themselves.

[suzanne5223]

I think maybe you misunderstood. I live in Indiana where sports betting is totally legal and vets can be placed at top sports looks like Caesars , Draft kings Sports book, etc... Big legimate companies , betting is totally legal. I don't want to bet myself.
   I am saying I can place wagers for other people on the reputable sites , for people that live in other places where they do not have access to legal gambling. I believe of 50 US States only 3 or 5 have legal gambling.

He doesn't misunderstand cause it doesn't make any sense for anyone whatsoever that want to gamble so bad on a certain game to give her funds to an anonymous stranger to place the bet on her behave not even now that most of the crypto gambling site we have on this forum are now adding sports game to their list.

If the law is very strict in states where gambling is illegal, someone may be afraid to bet with a VPN. If the internet provider passes the info to the police, the consequences can be very unpleasant.
The OP does not want to be anonymous because he wrote that the he will provide all data and links to social media to interested people.

If the law of gambler is very strict about gambling to be illegal the best thing the gambling can do is to stop gambling in other not to have problems with the law or have her account freezes by bookmakers when they detect that she used VPN.
About the OP providing all data and links to social media, I will be damn if I believe all the information to be true not even not that we have some people selling ID and other private information online.

[DaveF]

And as a side note the biggest killer for the OP is going to be taxes.

I take him up on the offer. I win a large enough wager to generate a W2-G (income from gambling tax form) I take my winnings and leave. OP now has to cover a $3500 tax bill with the $3 I gave him for the bet.

There are probably dozens of other pitfalls but I see that as a big one.

-Dave

[Cryptock]

And as a side note the biggest killer for the OP is going to be taxes.

I take him up on the offer. I win a large enough wager to generate a W2-G (income from gambling tax form) I take my winnings and leave. OP now has to cover a $3500 tax bill with the $3 I gave him for the bet.

There are probably dozens of other pitfalls but I see that as a big one.

-Dave

Good one!  Nobody looked at it from this side!

But actually there is one more way to control this. Simply, the winnings will come to the OP's account and will pass the amount for bettor after removing tax to itself.

[acroman08]

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I doubt the OP will give you that winnings. I mean no offense to him but I have a feeling he just wanted to "offer his residency to bet on a gambling site" so if a moron actually took his offer he'll have no problem taking the money if a decent bet ever won.

the other month there was another guy who was looking for someone to bet for him using his money I think these two people are meant for each other. too bad the OP in that thread claims that he already "found" someone who would be willing to bet for him.

[noorman0]

People only have to choose between obeying their country's rules or wanting to break them, some countries can't technically reach violators to get caught. As long as they can access certain sports betting sites and anonymously, they can freely spend their money there.

So far my country has banned all forms of gambling, but I don't need a service like this to bet independently. Because at the end of the day, entrusting someone else to manage money in gambling is also illegal.

[mak013]

Exactly. I can`t understand the offer. I`ve break through China firewall, i don`t think that US firewall is more powerful. And in any way i`m breaking the law of my country/state, even if the OP betting. So, i repeat - i don`t understand how such an offer can help me.

I think there is only one logical explanation. A very large number of bookmakers do not accept VPN and using it may result in blocking funds. This offer may be attractive to people who don't want to risk it.

As @Kakmakr said - when someone begin gamble outside Indiana - it becomes illegal. There is no some offer, even if OP will gamble by himself, with your instructions - getting profit will be illegal too. I think he just want to get commissions at least and your problems will be just your problems.

[wxa7115]

I think there is only one logical explanation. A very large number of bookmakers do not accept VPN and using it may result in blocking funds. This offer may be attractive to people who don't want to risk it.

- the fees he charges are high

- The service he is offering is something dangerous both for him and for the people who use it, of course to be discovered will be difficult, but it is still very risky. if the casino finds out and reports this case to the police, OP could be involved in serious problems

I do not know if it could come to that, but it is definitely something that most casinos will not allow, if you read the TOS of most casinos you will see that they are allowing you to make bets on their casino and sport book but many specify that you are the only one allowed to make those bets and not a third party.

So if they discover that you have been using your account to make bets under the instructions of someone else then most likely your account will be closed and your winnings seized.

[manbitcoinlover]

hahahahahhaah risky and stupid

[Cryptock]

Exactly. I can`t understand the offer. I`ve break through China firewall, i don`t think that US firewall is more powerful. And in any way i`m breaking the law of my country/state, even if the OP betting. So, i repeat - i don`t understand how such an offer can help me.

I think there is only one logical explanation. A very large number of bookmakers do not accept VPN and using it may result in blocking funds. This offer may be attractive to people who don't want to risk it.

As @Kakmakr said - when someone begin gamble outside Indiana - it becomes illegal. There is no some offer, even if OP will gamble by himself, with your instructions - getting profit will be illegal too. I think he just want to get commissions at least and your problems will be just your problems.

If there is someone willing to use his services, I think that he will not be contacted in public, but will do so in a private message. I don't think both of them would be so stupid to tell anyone else about their deal. If their arrangement is kept secret, I doubt they will suffer any consequences.

[mak013]

If there is someone willing to use his services, I think that he will not be contacted in public, but will do so in a private message. I don't think both of them would be so stupid to tell anyone else about their deal. If their arrangement is kept secret, I doubt they will suffer any consequences.

In my country there is a proverb - "money loves silence". This is really true and i agree with you, that OP and his potential client will not negotiate here. But i just trying to understand what advantages the client can get from such offer. For the law it looks the same, may be even the worse choice because it can add some more problems with money transfers.

[tulusikhlas]

If the law of gambler is very strict about gambling to be illegal the best thing the gambling can do is to stop gambling in other not to have problems with the law or have her account freezes by bookmakers when they detect that she used VPN.
About the OP providing all data and links to social media, I will be damn if I believe all the information to be true not even not that we have some people selling ID and other private information online.

You're right, as strict regulations may overwhelm gamblers in the area one day. Forcing gambling in a place where the rules are quite vulnerable to things that eventually become an illegal act has a fairly dangerous risk for gamblers. Quitting is indeed a difficult decision, but avoiding the rules is also not a good way. Back to each other's decisions.

[Jawhead999]

@OP you need to think twice to run your services, this is illegal and you must have a good knowledge to hide identity and remain 100% anonymous both you and your customer. Let's say you've good knowledge to hide your identity, then how you can sure your customer have good knowledge same as you? You can't verify that, you can only trust his words. Regulations and SEC can cooperate with exchanges or any services, if they found there's a linked relation from you and your customer... it's over.

[Cryptock]

If there is someone willing to use his services, I think that he will not be contacted in public, but will do so in a private message. I don't think both of them would be so stupid to tell anyone else about their deal. If their arrangement is kept secret, I doubt they will suffer any consequences.

In my country there is a proverb - "money loves silence". This is really true and i agree with you, that OP and his potential client will not negotiate here. But i just trying to understand what advantages the client can get from such offer. For the law it looks the same, may be even the worse choice because it can add some more problems with money transfers.

"Money likes silence" all over the world my friend

When it comes to transfers, I think there will be no problem if they bet and deal only in crypto. The problem may be only when these are large amounts and you will have to prove from where come the new car in front of the house..

And as I wrote, it may be that someone is afraid to use a VPN so that his funds are not blocked by the casino.

[mak013]

If there is someone willing to use his services, I think that he will not be contacted in public, but will do so in a private message. I don't think both of them would be so stupid to tell anyone else about their deal. If their arrangement is kept secret, I doubt they will suffer any consequences.

In my country there is a proverb - "money loves silence". This is really true and i agree with you, that OP and his potential client will not negotiate here. But i just trying to understand what advantages the client can get from such offer. For the law it looks the same, may be even the worse choice because it can add some more problems with money transfers.

"Money likes silence" all over the world my friend

When it comes to transfers, I think there will be no problem if they bet and deal only in crypto. The problem may be only when these are large amounts and you will have to prove from where come the new car in front of the house..

And as I wrote, it may be that someone is afraid to use a VPN so that his funds are not blocked by the casino.

Yes, i didn`t mean that problem is to transfer cryptocurrencies. The main problem is to legalize it. I have an opportunity to transfer cryptocurrencies to cash in my city, but i can`t  make big deals in cash. And making any transfer with credit card can the reason for asking different questions, that i don`t want to answer.

[wxa7115]

If there is someone willing to use his services, I think that he will not be contacted in public, but will do so in a private message. I don't think both of them would be so stupid to tell anyone else about their deal. If their arrangement is kept secret, I doubt they will suffer any consequences.

In my country there is a proverb - "money loves silence". This is really true and i agree with you, that OP and his potential client will not negotiate here. But i just trying to understand what advantages the client can get from such offer. For the law it looks the same, may be even the worse choice because it can add some more problems with money transfers.

And that is one of the many issues with this, using a service like that will require a huge amount of trust as you are giving your money to a person on the Internet that you have never seen and which will be impossible to track.

And even in the case the service is legitimate it will leave a money trail that could eventually lead to the discovery that this service exists and that it has been cheating the casino, creating a whole bunch of issues that in my mind are not worth the trouble to deal with.