Trezor BTC Balance does not match Blockchain.com

[NapHappy]

What circumstances would make my Trezor BTC Balance not match the balance that is on blockchain.com for my Bitcoin address?

Everything is the same between the two except Blockchain.com shows one additional output last year.

Why would Trezor not have the same outputs?

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[tech30338]

What circumstances would make my Trezor BTC Balance not match the balance that is on blockchain.com for my Bitcoin address?

Everything is the same between the two except Blockchain.com shows one additional output last year.

Why would Trezor not have the same outputs?

this may help you https://trezor.io/learn/a/balances-mismatch
have you made any transactions earlier before checking the balance?

[HARDCRACKERS]

I understand the problem you are trying to explain.
Because I also use Trezor.
Later, I did a lot of research and learned.
The problem is.
If the btc that appears in the Trezor main balance does not actually appear in the previously sent btc address.
When you transfer BTC, the Trezor system sends the previously sent BTC to the place you sent it at the time of transfer.
But it creates a new BTC address and sends the remaining balance to it.
You see it in your Trezor balance.
When you buy previous BTC, you cannot see it because the remaining BTC is sent to the new BTC address.
Your BTC do not disappear. Again, the balance is in Trezor, but at the new BTC address where the system creates an automatic fork.

[NapHappy]

What circumstances would make my Trezor BTC Balance not match the balance that is on blockchain.com for my Bitcoin address?

Everything is the same between the two except Blockchain.com shows one additional output last year.

Why would Trezor not have the same outputs?

this may help you https://trezor.io/learn/a/balances-mismatch
have you made any transactions earlier before checking the balance?

That link is for the Desktop and Suite Lite applications not matching. But I may end up using the link at the bottom.

Thanks for responding!

[NapHappy]

I understand the problem you are trying to explain.
Because I also use Trezor.
Later, I did a lot of research and learned.
The problem is.
If the btc that appears in the Trezor main balance does not actually appear in the previously sent btc address.
When you transfer BTC, the Trezor system sends the previously sent BTC to the place you sent it at the time of transfer.
But it creates a new BTC address and sends the remaining balance to it.
You see it in your Trezor balance.
When you buy previous BTC, you cannot see it because the remaining BTC is sent to the new BTC address.
Your BTC do not disappear. Again, the balance is in Trezor, but at the new BTC address where the system creates an automatic fork.

This sounds like it may be the problem...Is there a place where I can read more about this? Is it a known Trezor oddity

[mikeywith]

What you describe here is "change address", and that would only affect the overall balance that Trezor displays, an example of that would be your Trezor showing balance of 1 BTC, and then when you copy your current address to one of the blockchain explorers it would show 0.6BTC, that missing 0.4BTC belongs to a change address that was created when you made a transfer from your wallet at some point in the past.


OP's problem if I understand it correctly isn't related to that, he mentioned a missing output, so this means, the balance on the explorer is larger than what shows on his Trezor.

[NapHappy]

What you describe here is "change address", and that would only affect the overall balance that Trezor displays, an example of that would be your Trezor showing balance of 1 BTC, and then when you copy your current address to one of the blockchain explorers it would show 0.6BTC, that missing 0.4BTC belongs to a change address that was created when you made a transfer from your wallet at some point in the past.


OP's problem if I understand it correctly isn't related to that, he mentioned a missing output, so this means, the balance on the explorer is larger than what shows on his Trezor.

I think it may be the "change address" you mention. The balance on the explorer is lower than what is shown on my trezor. My description was a little unclear as I was calmly panicking.

This question posted on the Trezor forum is similar to what I am seeing and the response from Trezor leads to a post about Change Addresses.

https://forum.trezor.io/t/bitcoin-change-being-send-to-a-new-address/14262

I am 95% sure that is the correct situation, but I have a nagging question about why I can not see that "Change Address" from within the Trezor, even if I do an export to a CSV.

[mikeywith]

My description was a little unclear as I was calmly panicking.

Ok, that was disappointing, I thought you just discovered a new bug.

I am 95% sure that is the correct situation, but I have a nagging question about why I can not see that "Change Address" from within the Trezor, even if I do an export to a CSV.

Well, it's probably because they want to keep the GUI as clean and neat as possible, and that makes sense, it's like checking your hard drive space, it won't bother you with all the details, it would just sum everything up and tell you that you got x filled and y empty, if you need more details -- you going to have to dig further.

If you still want to see your change addresses you are going to need to use another wallet or use coin control which is easier, just do as if you were going to send some BTC, and you get that setting icon that allows you to use coin control, that would display a breakdown of your balance, this address holds x BTC and that address holds y BTC, it's been a while since I used Trezor but ya I am sure that would work.

[NapHappy]

My description was a little unclear as I was calmly panicking.

Ok, that was disappointing, I thought you just discovered a new bug.

I am 95% sure that is the correct situation, but I have a nagging question about why I can not see that "Change Address" from within the Trezor, even if I do an export to a CSV.

Well, it's probably because they want to keep the GUI as clean and neat as possible, and that makes sense, it's like checking your hard drive space, it won't bother you with all the details, it would just sum everything up and tell you that you got x filled and y empty, if you need more details -- you going to have to dig further.

If you still want to see your change addresses you are going to need to use another wallet or use coin control which is easier, just do as if you were going to send some BTC, and you get that setting icon that allows you to use coin control, that would display a breakdown of your balance, this address holds x BTC and that address holds y BTC, it's been a while since I used Trezor but ya I am sure that would work.

And there it was in the coin control view. Whew! Thanks!

[HARDCRACKERS]

This sounds like it may be the problem...Is there a place where I can read more about this? Is it a known Trezor oddity

There is no data you can read as a source.
I learned this because I experienced the same thing with different coins.
It just has nothing to do with BTC.
There was dogecoin in the wallet.
I sent some of it to the stock market.
Then I looked and it showed the remaining dogecoin in my Trezor balance.
But there are no doges that need to be included in the exit address.
In other words, the system created a new doge address and sent the remaining balance there.
You can collect coins at a single address in Trezor, and you have to pay a fee for it.
However, when you send it, it warns you that this account belongs to you.
It warns you that you are sending it to yourself system

[philipma1957]

you can look at the tx.

1)address original

2)receive address
3)change address