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November 19, 2021, 03:28:27 PM
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We don't have long term data, and it's good be skeptical. [...] And so, when the risks are all calculated, the fact remains -- young people do not need the vaccine. Very old people do need the vaccine. If you're in the middle, make up your mind depending on your immune system, underlying conditions, etc.
It's definitely good to be skeptical, and yes it is a risk-balancing exercise. But it just comes back to the point that a person's decision to take or not take the vaccine affects others, not just themselves. If it was the case that young people couldn't pass the virus on to old people, then "young people do not need the vaccine" would be a valid argument. But it isn't, so it's not.


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You make the comparison of the pro-vaxx side of the side argument to a religion, as if we're the side that relies on a faith-based argument. And yet we're the ones presenting the data.
You also often say that the pro-vaxx side believes whatever the government tells them. I don't believe anything my government says; they're a bunch of self-serving sociopaths.

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November 20, 2021, 02:20:56 AM
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We don't have long term data, and it's good be skeptical. [...] And so, when the risks are all calculated, the fact remains -- young people do not need the vaccine. Very old people do need the vaccine. If you're in the middle, make up your mind depending on your immune system, underlying conditions, etc.
It's definitely good to be skeptical, and yes it is a risk-balancing exercise. But it just comes back to the point that a person's decision to take or not take the vaccine affects others, not just themselves. If it was the case that young people couldn't pass the virus on to old people, then "young people do not need the vaccine" would be a valid argument. But it isn't, so it's not.


the high priest to sacrifice on the pyramid
You make the comparison of the pro-vaxx side of the side argument to a religion, as if we're the side that relies on a faith-based argument. And yet we're the ones presenting the data.
You also often say that the pro-vaxx side believes whatever the government tells them. I don't believe anything my government says; they're a bunch of self-serving sociopaths.


You are unusually stupid today. When you are the last person running around showing the data, then come back for more. The New Year will be ushering in so many vaccine deaths that there won't be enough people to report them all. But those that do will be unvaxxed.


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November 20, 2021, 05:20:13 AM
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It is so weird to me that people think the government even has the capability to "lockdown" those who haven't had the vaccine.  I can tell you that there is absolutely nothing to government could do to stop me if I want to go outside.  I mean this completely literally.  It's weird that while being faced with the truth that they can't do anything about citizens who don't want the vaccine they still think they wield some sort of power over these people's choices.  They've become so comfortable abusing their power, they don't realize that they have none over people's choices.


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November 20, 2021, 06:50:57 AM
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... the high priest to sacrifice on the pyramid ...

You make the comparison of the pro-vaxx side of the side argument to a religion, as if we're the side that relies on a faith-based argument.


That's because it is exactly what is happening.  You cannot see it just as the majority of the Jonestown cultists could not.  Too 'immersed'.  It's also known as 'cannot see the forest for the trees.'

And yet we're the ones presenting the data.  You also often say that the pro-vaxx side believes whatever the government tells them. I don't believe anything my government says; they're a bunch of self-serving sociopaths.

You have a faith-based allegiance to 'the numbers' with no clue how they came into your awareness.

We already have a 'fascist' dictatorship using the term as Mussolini defined it.  'Corporations' already own the 'governments' in almost every country that they care even a little bit about, and I mean that literally regardless of whether you are a commonwealther, and EU, a US, an Israeli, a Chinese, an Indonesian, etc.  'The numbers' you are seeing come straight from your controllers through 'hired hands' called the government.  You can feel good about yourself by 'hating the govt' and go around them (to 'our world in data' for instance), but the numbers you are getting are from the same source.


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November 20, 2021, 06:57:23 AM
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Covid: 54% of hospital patients with virus are fully vaccinated

In Germany, that number is around 44%, and more and more people are wondering how it is possible that so many people became infected compared to last year, when at this time we did not have vaccinated people at all.

its not 50% of vaccinated people end up in hospital.. because ireland (5mill pop) has a 92% vaccination rate. and i guarantee you of the 4.6mill vaccinated.. 2.3million of them have not been sent to hospital

what you are finding is that covid during lockdown pre vaccine only had a 0.2-0.6% per week population infected with covid. as restrictions relaxed this went upto 2%
(shows self isolation did work to dampen the spread)

so lets take this 100,000 infected people per week(2% whole population).
unvaccinated has a 15% hospitalisation rate
and so if 8% are unvaccinated.. thats 8000 unvaccinated and infected.
meaning 1200 unvaccinated hospitalised(15% of the 8%)

as for the other 92,000 vaccinated infected only 1.3% hospitalisation rate also would equate to 1200 vaccinated hospitalisations .. meaning 50% of all hospitalisations

proving that the vaccine is over 90% effective. because the vaccinated population is only a 1.3% hospital risk instead of a 15%

do you get it yet.
unvaccinated people are in low population but have high risk rate.
vaccinated people are in high population with low risk rate

so maybe try to include the math of how much general population is vaccinated vs unvaccinated when trying to deal with the hospital stats so that you have context

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November 20, 2021, 07:34:15 AM
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'The numbers' you are seeing come straight from your controllers through 'hired hands' called the government.  You can feel good about yourself by 'hating the govt' and go around them (to 'our world in data' for instance), but the numbers you are getting are from the same source.

This is the BADecker argument of 'you didn't gather the data yourself, first-hand, therefore it's all false'. Are there any data you trust? What is the source? I would argue that ourworldindata are quite transparent in their funding and their sources. You imply that the data are from a single source, when that is clearly not the case. Sources for the Covid-19 data are listed here. You can then go back to each country and check the multiple sources of their own data. It's stretching credibility somewhat to suggest that all of these people, from countries all around the world, are working together in some vast conspiracy.



Only PUREBLOODS will survive the vaccine / radiation holocaust being unleashed against humanity…

I do struggle to tell you and tvbcof apart, but here I think we have a distinction. I had no idea what you meant by 'PUREBLOODS', until I looked it up...

Pure-blood was the term for wizarding families who claimed to have no Muggles or Muggle-borns in their family tree

I am not remotely surprised that you believe you are a wizard. It is no coincidence that tin-foil hats are pointy.

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Only PUREBLOODS will survive the vaccine / radiation holocaust being unleashed against humanity…

I do struggle to tell you and tvbcof apart, but here I think we have a distinction. I had no idea what you meant by 'PUREBLOODS', until I looked it up...
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This happens to be one place where BADecker and I are seemingly in perfect alignment.  'Pureblood' is simple and obvious and anyone who is not trying to be deliberately dense should see it without help.  Someone who's had their cells re-programmed by whatever code Big Phrama has decided is not a 'pureblood'.  Someone who has not it is a 'pureblood'.  (The FDA is trying to keep the details of the genetic modification secret for over half a century interestingly enough.)

The only question would be people who were GMO'd without their knowledge and against their will via self-spreading gene therapies, 'covid pills', 'vaccine veggies', atmospheric spraying, etc.  I have to say that in my mind they (or 'we') are NOT 'pureblood' in the real world just because of the nature of science.  Hopefully 'we' will at least be less impacted than the drooling tards who lined up for their modification.  Maybe 'spiritually' or legally we will be 'a pureblood' as well for whatever that ends up being worth.


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November 20, 2021, 11:09:56 AM
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and lets clear up some thing..
the badecker NHEJ of the spike causing cancer claim

so fact is
the full length spike of THE VIRUS can mess with cell damage repair. not the s1 s2 spike of a vaccine.
so vaccines dont cause cancer [side note, risk only for a few cell life cycles]

wow that was an easy badecker debunk

secondly having the vaccine as the 'first infection' to teach the body how to fight means that non cancer risking method to teach antibodies is even now by badeckers prompt proved to be safer than someone that gets infected by covid as first infection.

so even more reason to get a vaccine. so body can then, when getting covid after vaccine can fight covid fast and not get covid to a point where its messing with cell nucleus.

yep vaccine first then covid means covid will be battled off before it gets into the cells to cause as much damage compared to people who get covid unvaccinated

also badecker is revealing that covid is more dangerous than the flu and more dangerous than the vaccine.. so thanks badecker you mentioning the NHEJ and people actually reading the real research from source have now learned that

the only way badecker can be a pure blood. is to remain a virgin living in a sheltered accommodation with no visitors and eating only food he produces in his own personal greenhouse with purification equipment. and only water sourced from a purified. meaning living in a bubble to never ever get infected by anything

i originally thought badecker was a darwinian of only the strongest survived, but adding in his holy beliefs i now see he is 'only the virgins survive'

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November 20, 2021, 11:47:28 AM
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i originally thought badecker was a darwinian of only the strongest survived, but adding in his holy beliefs i now see he is 'only the virgins survive'

If Moderna et-al have incorporated some of Epstein's genes into their gene therapy, and the gene therapy infects the germ cells, than one could classify those who somehow avoided the inserts as 'virgins.'

This is relevant because Jeff Epstein had a dream of 'seeding future humanity' with his own genetics, and it is certainly anticipatable that there was space to include the pals he was hob-knobing around with in the genetic inserts.  That would be the likes of Bill Gates, Alan Deshowitz, Ehud Barak, and a fair number of people who are at the cutting edge of genetics science and tied into the new gene therapy 'vaccines' and the design of the spike protein bioweapon which is found in both SARS-cov-2 and the injections being mandated.  Epstein clearly 'befriended' these people for a reason.

If indeed some games along these lines are in play, and if 'humanity' decides to stamp out any residuals of these creep's genetic lineage (through something like, say, forced sterilization), then yes, it could be the case that only the 'virgins' survive long term.


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'The numbers' you are seeing come straight from your controllers through 'hired hands' called the government.  You can feel good about yourself by 'hating the govt' and go around them (to 'our world in data' for instance), but the numbers you are getting are from the same source.

This is the BADecker argument of 'you didn't gather the data yourself, first-hand, therefore it's all false'. Are there any data you trust? What is the source? I would argue that ourworldindata are quite transparent in their funding and their sources. You imply that the data are from a single source, when that is clearly not the case. Sources for the Covid-19 data are listed here. You can then go back to each country and check the multiple sources of their own data. It's stretching credibility somewhat to suggest that all of these people, from countries all around the world, are working together in some vast conspiracy.



Only PUREBLOODS will survive the vaccine / radiation holocaust being unleashed against humanity…

I do struggle to tell you and tvbcof apart, but here I think we have a distinction. I had no idea what you meant by 'PUREBLOODS', until I looked it up...

Pure-blood was the term for wizarding families who claimed to have no Muggles or Muggle-borns in their family tree

I am not remotely surprised that you believe you are a wizard. It is no coincidence that tin-foil hats are pointy.
I've also mentioned it in the past, it wouldn't surprise me if one account was related to the other. There's no point in arguing, period. Every data source is wrong except their conspiracy websites, no matter what statistics they are shown, they'll just brush it off by saying that the data is manipulated by governments and Bill Gates.

On the other hand, it's funny to see that BADecker is referring to the bible fairy tale in other posts.

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November 20, 2021, 02:35:29 PM
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You guys are straying from the main point of this thread. Vaccines are a prophylactic, that means they are intended to prevent disease before exposure to the infection. Traditional medical opinion has always been that vaccines should not be given to people with antibodies resulting from a prior infection. This established concept is being breached by the current draconian policies. You should also consider the fact that vaccines work with the natural immune system, and can never create a superior protection to that gained from recovery from infection without their use. In fact it is well established that vaccinating a person with existing antibodies can cause the compromising of their immune system, and can lead to the creation of variants that a more destructive than those caused by evolutionary drift.

I would also like to point out once again the mRNA injections are not vaccines, but are a drug induced dependence on pharmaceuticals. Also, you should reflect on the fact that all of the government policies are designed to spread infection, and to slow recovery from the disease. Breathing your own excrement as a result of wearing face masks is just one example. Locking people indoors to reduce exposure to the sun and to encourage obesity and drunkenness is another.

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November 20, 2021, 03:08:13 PM
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You guys are straying from the main point of this thread. Vaccines are a prophylactic, that means they are intended to prevent disease before exposure to the infection. Traditional medical opinion has always been that vaccines should not be given to people with antibodies resulting from a prior infection. This established concept is being breached by the current draconian policies. You should also consider the fact that vaccines work with the natural immune system, and can never create a superior protection to that gained from recovery from infection without their use. In fact it is well established that vaccinating a person with existing antibodies can cause the compromising of their immune system, and can lead to the creation of variants that a more destructive than those caused by evolutionary drift.

I would also like to point out once again the mRNA injections are not vaccines, but are a drug induced dependence on pharmaceuticals. Also, you should reflect on the fact that all of the government policies are designed to spread infection, and to slow recovery from the disease. Breathing your own excrement as a result of wearing face masks is just one example. Locking people indoors to reduce exposure to the sun and to encourage obesity and drunkenness is another.

The problem is that at this point most people on both sides of the fence understand all of these things.  Nobody on either side gives a fuck because most everyone understand that the 'health' aspect of the injection as a charade.  Also we all understand that the 'old rules' about what is OK to do to people in the name of 'science' and social engineering is obsolete and out the window.  The 'Nuremberg Code' with it's quaint objections to medical experiments on unwilling subjects is a footnote in history.  Long gone are the days when 50 peeps dying from a vaccine is a problem as was the case with the 'swine flu' hoax from back in my time.  500,000 would be fine and desirable to some.  People who buy into the climate change scam run by the bankers would be happier if it were closer to 5,000,000,000 because that happens to be what their programmers/propagandizers/priests want to see.

We are now at the phase where everyone who actually matters understands the plandemic as an excuse for something much bigger and associated with economics, political systems, and methods of social control.  I'm quite confident that this applies to most of the 'pro-vaxxers' and 'anti-vaxxers' who've come to know eachother here on this board over the last few years.  Sure, there are some ankle-biters who just learned something new (and wrong) from CNN and spout off here to prove their allegiance (and fairly laughable understandings of 'the science(tm)') but they don't matter much.  We have people who think that the 'one world govt' and '4th industrial revolution' and 'great reset' and generally find-grained instrumentation of all human beings is the way to go, and we have people who do not.  It's just about that simple I believe.

Probably it is past time to shift gears and budget one's energies away from the increasingly obvious negative health impacts and on toward the increasingly obvious bigger goals of the plandemic.  People who drank the cool-aid got the shot and are on the booster train.  People who won't, didn't.


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November 20, 2021, 04:01:29 PM
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I'd be interested to know if any of the Pharma execs or the political elite have been vaccinated, or injected with the Covid drugs. My suspicion is that they haven't, and any public display is with a placebo. They are funding research into life extension, so they are unlikely to risk any medication that is reputedly shortening lives. It is also interesting to see that the rules for the proles do not apply to the elite. Probably because they haven't been vaccinated, they don't have to bother with social distancing and the enforced re-breathing of their infected excrement.

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Austria: €1450 fine for missing the third dose, €3600 for refusal to vaccinate
After admitting that he was not vaccinated and raising concerns over the COVID vaccines, the head of the Styrian Health Insurance University Professor Dr. Karlheinz Tscheliessnigg, a highly regarded specialist for organ transplants and cardiology was forced to step back from his position. Good-by to the elected communist major he will say. Lockdowns are the heart and soul of communists, no pass no go outside of village.
Some place will be happy to have a highly qualified specialist as a new member. someones loss is somebodys elses gain.
Countries with absurd laws will experience massive wealth and brain drain. What remains is peasant (communist) slaves.

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He is 75 years old, so will enjoy retirement in some nice place.


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I saw this post somewhere and had it copy/pasted because it sounded interesting but looking at it now the person who wrote it may have been predicting closely what is beginning to happen now.Please requote it anywhere on threads where it may be helpful to even one poor soul in the future.I cannot repost it all over the place because it is against rules to do this I think but not for different people to do it at one time only maybe. Please help spread this message and don't be afraid of ridicule.Try to help even these people before it is too late.Unfortunately I have only the 1 sendable merit to give this thread. Thank you friends.



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The mark of the beast will be forced upon people. You will have no choice. People who think they will be asked to make a decision are still thinking it will be a choice. The choices you make today will determine if you will be marked when the time comes.
Don't for a minute think you can continuously live in sin and say to yourself well I will refuse the mark when it comes so I have plenty of time to enjoy myself in the meantime.
No you do NOT. You need to make ammends with a good conscience through repentence,fasting and prayer so you are strengthened spiritually and have God's angels protection around you at all times hidden from those who will take you by force.
If you are taken by force you may only be killed but unmarked but if you are not in a state of grace you may well be marked by force .

The mark will be deceptive like going to a driver licence or passport office and sitting in a booth where you have a digital signature or invisible mark that is only seen under certain light or using some special scanning apparatus but as you sit to have your photo taken for facial recognition type photo you will receive it in your forehead or as you face camera or marking device the counter will be at your right hand forcing you by default to either pick it up with your right hand or accept it by the right hand.

It is HIGHLY likely that it will be in the form of a vaccine identity that allows authorities to see if you are both positive for a disease or have immunity and the most efficient way to check this is through body heat or this mark activated through body heat in places commonly where temperature is taken so it would make sense for the hand and forehead requiring this mark to be a good excuse.

There may also be a program where over a period of time willpower to resist these measures both physically and emotionally comes through testing and maybe the nature of the vaccine through some type of enzymes or contaminant.

Somehow the vaccine or mark containing tester or vaccine component will destroy an individuals rational mind and they will have no issues with tormenting those who are not like them.

Everything will be tied to this mark because by then you will not have banknotes or other acceptable identification for services or products which will be the final nail in the coffin so to speak for those who do not have it in order to persecute them or flush them out of the shadows to be taken into custody.

This may sound far fetched but I have no reason to tell lies because it is sinful to lie knowingly and separates us from The Father in Heaven and Christ and his blessed Mother.


The whole plandemic is to condition the population to the idea of a system whereby they have to prove themselves to be loyal uninfected to the  beast with coVid at all times. This will come to an agreeable state for the plebs once they allow a system of proof that no longer requires testing or a vaccine which will be proposed by a "saviour" who will impose a mark whereby it will show physically whether you are positive or negative before you enter a building or public space.

Disclaimer: I could be just some conspiracy nut Grin



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In this third press conference, which took place on 24 Nov. 2021 in the European Parliament in Strasbourg, we explained why the Green Certificate is violating peoples' fundamental rights as well as other related topics.
https://youtu.be/hq55vOwKpTM

Now, MEP Stasys Jakeliūnas a Green party member has joint:
- Cristian Terheş (ECR, RO)  European Christian Political Movement
- Ivan Vilibor Sinčić (NI, HR)  Human Shield party not left or right wing, adhere to humanist values
- Francesca Donato (Italy, NI) Northern League, right-wing, federalist, populist and conservative political party
- Christine Anderson (Germany, ID) Alternative for Germany,  right-wing populist party


So you telling me the essential workers build the Howard Springs Concentration Quarantine camp this in the middle of pandemic?
On the other hand, just maybe, would it be big enough to house all corrupt politician and keep as save from them? (it is made for 850 people )

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