[CHESS] World Championship 2021: Carlsen Vs. Nepomniachtchi

[babygun]

I follow many chess players (more precisely, I watch how they play on YouTube and Twitch) and I know for sure that most of them did not really prepare for this championship. Well, or we can say that they prepared for the championship every day - time control when playing on the Internet from a minute to a maximum of three.
I think the reason for Magnus's defeat lies in his age - the advantage of young chess players in small time control is growing and after a year Magnus is unlikely to have more chances.

I don't agree, his age has nothing to do with it. Yeah, there are a lot younger players having massive talent, but Carlsen can still beat this guys. He didn't play great in the blitz but that's how it can go sometimes. Everybody can have a bad day. I think chess is one of the only sports that an older player can still play on the top level and win championships.

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[Lucasgabd]

The strongest bullet chess championship in history ended yesterday (the time limit is 1 minute per game and you can take a berserk). By the way, the prize fund was one bitcoin.
After the first day, Carlsen was 15 points behind the leader and was in third place, and for some reason the whole second game day he played a moronic opening (king F2 for white and king F7 for black) and eventually finished outside the top ten. It looks like he is in a crisis, but is trying to pretend that everything is fine.

who organized this championship? I'd like to read a bit more on that found only this one:
https://www.chess.com/article/view/2021-bullet-chess-championship

but it was last year

was the prize really distributed in BTC or you converted the dollar value of the prize?

curious here
 

[Boristhecat]

The strongest bullet chess championship in history ended yesterday (the time limit is 1 minute per game and you can take a berserk). By the way, the prize fund was one bitcoin.
After the first day, Carlsen was 15 points behind the leader and was in third place, and for some reason the whole second game day he played a moronic opening (king F2 for white and king F7 for black) and eventually finished outside the top ten. It looks like he is in a crisis, but is trying to pretend that everything is fine.

who organized this championship? I'd like to read a bit more on that found only this one:
https://www.chess.com/article/view/2021-bullet-chess-championship

but it was last year

was the prize really distributed in BTC or you converted the dollar value of the prize?

curious here
 

The tournament was organized on the lichess platform, here is the link:
https://lichess.org/tournament/qzRBGPLN

As I understood from the description, the sponsor was CakeDeFi and the prizes were distributed in cryptocurrency:

Hello everyone and welcome to agadmator CakeDeFi Christmas Arena!
I don't stream often but I like to join in now and then.
Hope everyone has a great time, both watching and playing. May the fastest and most accurate player win. Flagging is of course encouraged.

1st PRIZE - 1 BTC
2nd PRIZE - 2500 DFI (about $10k)
3rd PRIZE - 500 DFI (about $2.5k)

(no sharing of prizes!)

Winners will be contacted after the tournament via Lichess for prize distribution.

IMPORTANT : To receive the prizes, winners must have verified accounts on cakedefi.com/ as they are sponsoring and distributing the prizes.

As usual, I will be streaming and showcasing your games.
Enjoy

Look at the list of participants, I think you can easily find streams of this tournament from many players (Nakamura, Nepo, Dubov, Penguin, Carlsen, Firuja, etc.) who took part, personally I watched it here: https://crestbook.com/node/10310 but there is Russian, so it is unlikely that it will be convenient for you.

[qwertyup23]

I do not know if this is the appropriate board to discuss but earlier was the Day 2 of Tata Steel Chess where several games were interesting.

Before the games, the match between Karjakin and Dubov was really interesting as there was an ongoing feud between them during the WCC 2021 when Magnus revealed that Dubov took part on his team preparation. Though the game ended on a draw, I definitely see the friction between the two (2) players.

The game between Magnus and Anish was also an intriguing one where Magnus was able to capitalize on Anish's inaccuracy. He won the game and basically forced an ending where the former would be able to win an endgame since Anish was down two pawns at the end.

[Lucasgabd]

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that's awesome
thanks a lot for the information

you are right, we can find the players on the link you provided too and check their game history and strategies as well
this is the 1st place person:
https://lichess.org/@/TSMFTXH

and yes, russian would be hard to read here, maybe one day I'll learn it but not yet

[South Park]

interesting, I've been playing some blitz (5 min) and rapid games (10-15 min)
It's much harder to make good decisions on the really short time frames

I see it as a good way to prepare for long games but they probably play all ranges of time

the habits are usually underestimated
if you have a good routine of training you are always prepared for tournaments.

Time is a huge factor when taking decisions not only in chess but in almost any other activity, this means that a move that in a traditional game a player will not make because eventually his opponent will find the best line and eventually beat them can become a very strong move with the time limitations of a blitz tournament, so while in a regular game your overall ability to play is the most important factor, when it comers to blitz games your ability to trap your opponent and be quick on your feet is more important.

[Lucasgabd]

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Time is a huge factor when taking decisions not only in chess but in almost any other activity, this means that a move that in a traditional game a player will not make because eventually his opponent will find the best line and eventually beat them can become a very strong move with the time limitations of a blitz tournament, so while in a regular game your overall ability to play is the most important factor, when it comers to blitz games your ability to trap your opponent and be quick on your feet is more important.

yes, that is really interesting
I have a much better rating on slow games than blitz ones

the strategies change a lot too
blitz games sometimes ends on who are faster to avoid the clock to end, so it's not a lot about technique 100% of the times, sometimes it's fast-clicking and reaction

[Boristhecat]

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that's awesome
thanks a lot for the information

you are right, we can find the players on the link you provided too and check their game history and strategies as well
this is the 1st place person:
https://lichess.org/@/TSMFTXH

and yes, russian would be hard to read here, maybe one day I'll learn it but not yet

This is Hikaru Nakamura. He played the lichess for the first time. As I understand it, he has a contract with chess.com and he only plays there, but for the sake of this tournament he changed his principles. And I think he did not regret it - one bitcoin is an excellent prize by the standards of chess. In addition, it was an online tournament and the players did not spend money on travel, hotels, etc.

I do not know if this is the appropriate board to discuss but earlier was the Day 2 of Tata Steel Chess where several games were interesting.

Before the games, the match between Karjakin and Dubov was really interesting as there was an ongoing feud between them during the WCC 2021 when Magnus revealed that Dubov took part on his team preparation. Though the game ended on a draw, I definitely see the friction between the two (2) players.

The game between Magnus and Anish was also an intriguing one where Magnus was able to capitalize on Anish's inaccuracy. He won the game and basically forced an ending where the former would be able to win an endgame since Anish was down two pawns at the end.

Of course it will be ok to discuss all tournaments here. Chess is not very popular, so one topic is enough for them.
I also follow this tournament, but classical chess takes so much time that I don't watch all the live broadcasts, mostly I watch reports about the most interesting games.

[Lucasgabd]

really cool, thanks for all the information @Boristhecat
we'll probably see more and more online chess tournaments if this trend keeps going, it's different than physical ones but you are right, players save so much with hotels, flights, etc...

are there tournaments that big on all game styles? including rapid ones like 5-15 minutes?
First time I hear about a prize so big for an online chess tournament

[LUCKMCFLY]

I follow many chess players (more precisely, I watch how they play on YouTube and Twitch) and I know for sure that most of them did not really prepare for this championship. Well, or we can say that they prepared for the championship every day - time control when playing on the Internet from a minute to a maximum of three.
I think the reason for Magnus's defeat lies in his age - the advantage of young chess players in small time control is growing and after a year Magnus is unlikely to have more chances.

I don't agree, his age has nothing to do with it. Yeah, there are a lot younger players having massive talent, but Carlsen can still beat this guys. He didn't play great in the blitz but that's how it can go sometimes. Everybody can have a bad day. I think chess is one of the only sports that an older player can still play on the top level and win championships.

Well, I also support this motion, because I have seen that many chess players in recent times are very young and have great potential, even when I was at the University there were many children who always came and played in the chess club, under which they had a great level for their age, that is why I also assume that age does not matter much here, the intellectual level, strategy and plan that they can establish is unique, and each person thinks differently, and anyone from a young age he sees clearly what he will be as an adult and more so in any sport.

[babygun]

Well, I also support this motion, because I have seen that many chess players in recent times are very young and have great potential, even when I was at the University there were many children who always came and played in the chess club, under which they had a great level for their age, that is why I also assume that age does not matter much here, the intellectual level, strategy and plan that they can establish is unique, and each person thinks differently, and anyone from a young age he sees clearly what he will be as an adult and more so in any sport.

I think over time, your game will also evolve. Look at Carlsen for example: when he was young, he was a much more attacking player (sometimes maybe too attacking) but now he is more an allround player. It all comes with experience.

[Lucasgabd]

Well, I also support this motion, because I have seen that many chess players in recent times are very young and have great potential, even when I was at the University there were many children who always came and played in the chess club, under which they had a great level for their age, that is why I also assume that age does not matter much here, the intellectual level, strategy and plan that they can establish is unique, and each person thinks differently, and anyone from a young age he sees clearly what he will be as an adult and more so in any sport.

I think over time, your game will also evolve. Look at Carlsen for example: when he was young, he was a much more attacking player (sometimes maybe too attacking) but now he is more an allround player. It all comes with experience.

this is amazing, since chess have a huge amount of games that are recorded somehow (even if just text notation) one can observe how a player style evolve and change over time
quite good material for studying and learning

[S A KHAIR]

Well, I also support this motion, because I have seen that many chess players in recent times are very young and have great potential, even when I was at the University there were many children who always came and played in the chess club, under which they had a great level for their age, that is why I also assume that age does not matter much here, the intellectual level, strategy and plan that they can establish is unique, and each person thinks differently, and anyone from a young age he sees clearly what he will be as an adult and more so in any sport.

I think over time, your game will also evolve. Look at Carlsen for example: when he was young, he was a much more attacking player (sometimes maybe too attacking) but now he is more an allround player. It all comes with experience.

this is amazing, since chess have a huge amount of games that are recorded somehow (even if just text notation) one can observe how a player style evolve and change over time
quite good material for studying and learning

Chess is actually a very popular sport and its popularity is often overlooked. Actually, if you open twitch right now, you can see 35000 viewers watching people play chess right now. And this is also a really good way to learn and study.

[Shamm]

Well, I also support this motion, because I have seen that many chess players in recent times are very young and have great potential, even when I was at the University there were many children who always came and played in the chess club, under which they had a great level for their age, that is why I also assume that age does not matter much here, the intellectual level, strategy and plan that they can establish is unique, and each person thinks differently, and anyone from a young age he sees clearly what he will be as an adult and more so in any sport.

I think over time, your game will also evolve. Look at Carlsen for example: when he was young, he was a much more attacking player (sometimes maybe too attacking) but now he is more an allround player. It all comes with experience.

this is amazing, since chess have a huge amount of games that are recorded somehow (even if just text notation) one can observe how a player style evolve and change over time
quite good material for studying and learning

Chess is actually a very popular sport and its popularity is often overlooked. Actually, if you open twitch right now, you can see 35000 viewers watching people play chess right now. And this is also a really good way to learn and study.

Chess game is one of the best indoors sports even though this is not that type of physical but mental is the best weapon to defeat our enemy this sports also is the best way of trained our mental health and develop our strategy. That's why I salute all the chess players cause they are have a higher critical thinking .

[LUCKMCFLY]

Well, I also support this motion, because I have seen that many chess players in recent times are very young and have great potential, even when I was at the University there were many children who always came and played in the chess club, under which they had a great level for their age, that is why I also assume that age does not matter much here, the intellectual level, strategy and plan that they can establish is unique, and each person thinks differently, and anyone from a young age he sees clearly what he will be as an adult and more so in any sport.

I think over time, your game will also evolve. Look at Carlsen for example: when he was young, he was a much more attacking player (sometimes maybe too attacking) but now he is more an allround player. It all comes with experience.

this is amazing, since chess have a huge amount of games that are recorded somehow (even if just text notation) one can observe how a player style evolve and change over time
quite good material for studying and learning

It is that with chess you can study all the time, there are moves that are masters and that are difficult to understand, sometimes I start looking and I start thinking what I would have done instead of the other player, and the possibilities that they open are too many, they are very calculated because reason, routine and invention must be combined a lot, it is something very global and that only the brain of each person is capable of assimilating, I have 2 friends from the university that I have never been able to beat them because They know a lot of theory and they always buy magazines and analyze the plays, the experience they have is unique and the most important thing is that when they play they do it very quickly while I try to go to their level, but it is very difficult.

[Minecache]

Chess game is one of the best indoors sports even though this is not that type of physical but mental is the best weapon to defeat our enemy this sports also is the best way of trained our mental health and develop our strategy. That's why I salute all the chess players cause they are have a higher critical thinking .

That is true because in chess you have to think about every step that you are going to make. One wrong move can be in the game in an instant. And it takes an unbelievable amount of patience to play chess and also the view as need to be patient who wants to learn and get good on this game.

this is amazing, since chess have a huge amount of games that are recorded somehow (even if just text notation) one can observe how a player style evolve and change over time
quite good material for studying and learning

It is that with chess you can study all the time, there are moves that are masters and that are difficult to understand, sometimes I start looking and I start thinking what I would have done instead of the other player, and the possibilities that they open are too many, they are very calculated because reason, routine and invention must be combined a lot, it is something very global and that only the brain of each person is capable of assimilating, I have 2 friends from the university that I have never been able to beat them because They know a lot of theory and they always buy magazines and analyze the plays, the experience they have is unique and the most important thing is that when they play they do it very quickly while I try to go to their level, but it is very difficult.

Obviously to you learn in any game or sports you have to think about the mistakes and what you could have done better. Imagine if a pro is playing and he ends up losing against another pro, you have to think about where the mistake was made and what could have been done differently to avoid the outcome of losing. That's how people get better.

[Lucasgabd]

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Chess is actually a very popular sport and its popularity is often overlooked. Actually, if you open twitch right now, you can see 35000 viewers watching people play chess right now. And this is also a really good way to learn and study.

yes, it's quite impressive to check number of online players on lichess too, usually it's never less than 50 thousand people sometimes reaching 115 thousand connected users ready to play (or playing)

Chess game is one of the best indoors sports even though this is not that type of physical but mental is the best weapon to defeat our enemy this sports also is the best way of trained our mental health and develop our strategy. That's why I salute all the chess players cause they are have a higher critical thinking .

That is true because in chess you have to think about every step that you are going to make. One wrong move can be in the game in an instant. And it takes an unbelievable amount of patience to play chess and also the view as need to be patient who wants to learn and get good on this game.

this is amazing, since chess have a huge amount of games that are recorded somehow (even if just text notation) one can observe how a player style evolve and change over time
quite good material for studying and learning

It is that with chess you can study all the time, there are moves that are masters and that are difficult to understand, sometimes I start looking and I start thinking what I would have done instead of the other player, and the possibilities that they open are too many, they are very calculated because reason, routine and invention must be combined a lot, it is something very global and that only the brain of each person is capable of assimilating, I have 2 friends from the university that I have never been able to beat them because They know a lot of theory and they always buy magazines and analyze the plays, the experience they have is unique and the most important thing is that when they play they do it very quickly while I try to go to their level, but it is very difficult.

Obviously to you learn in any game or sports you have to think about the mistakes and what you could have done better. Imagine if a pro is playing and he ends up losing against another pro, you have to think about where the mistake was made and what could have been done differently to avoid the outcome of losing. That's how people get better.

on lichess you can run your games through an AI after they happened so the AI can show you what were your mistakes, blunders serious errors, it's quite nice and you can learn a lot with it
you can even see how the advantage of each player changed during the match, sometimes you move a pawn that looks like something that won't hurt at all and this simple movement makes you lose 6 points in advantage (because you put a rook or queen at risk, as an example)

[Boristhecat]

really cool, thanks for all the information @Boristhecat
we'll probably see more and more online chess tournaments if this trend keeps going, it's different than physical ones but you are right, players save so much with hotels, flights, etc...

are there tournaments that big on all game styles? including rapid ones like 5-15 minutes?
First time I hear about a prize so big for an online chess tournament

The situation with the virus blew up the world of online chess, many tournaments have already been held online and new ones have appeared: Magnus Carlsen launches online chess super-tournament Quite a spectacular format and a large prize pool:

The Magnus Carlsen Invitational
The $250,000 event starts on April 18th and ends on May 3rd, with the following format:

8 players first compete in a single round-robin over 7 rounds
Each match features four 15+10 rapid games, where the winner gets 3 match points & the loser 0
If the match ends 2:2 an Armageddon game (5 vs. 4 minutes) is played, with the winner getting 2 points and the loser 1
The top four players after Round 7 enter the Final Four knockout - if match points are equal, game points are the first tiebreaker
The semi-finals, and final use a similar 4-game match system, except a 2:2 draw will be followed by two 5+3 blitz games, and if still drawn another two 5+3 games, and only then Armageddon

It was a whole series of tournaments with a different (arbitrary) set of players, so even not the top grandmasters had a chance to prove themselves. Now the situation with the virus is calming down and we see the return of classic tournaments (like the one that is going on now), but I think online tournaments will not disappear anywhere, as they attract a huge audience due to the spectacular format.

[South Park]

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Time is a huge factor when taking decisions not only in chess but in almost any other activity, this means that a move that in a traditional game a player will not make because eventually his opponent will find the best line and eventually beat them can become a very strong move with the time limitations of a blitz tournament, so while in a regular game your overall ability to play is the most important factor, when it comers to blitz games your ability to trap your opponent and be quick on your feet is more important.

yes, that is really interesting
I have a much better rating on slow games than blitz ones

the strategies change a lot too
blitz games sometimes ends on who are faster to avoid the clock to end, so it's not a lot about technique 100% of the times, sometimes it's fast-clicking and reaction

I remember that in a book I read long time ago the author describes how in a regular game in which one of the players was running out of time his opponent began moving his king around and some of the movements were so bad that he should have lost his queen, however his opponent was so mesmerized by what he was seeing that soon he lost the game by running out of time, and this is something that is really effective in blitz games, if you can do a movement that does not weaken your position but that can confuse your opponent, that is worth gold as they will take a lot of seconds trying to figure out what are you doing while slowly they run out of time, which shows that in blitz games not only you are playing against the player in front of you but against the clock.

[Lucasgabd]

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exactly @South Park!
I'd say it's a different kind of skill, not only about chess knowledge and execution but also about being able to think and react fast
the clock is a totally different opponent than real people