[Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu

[Kemarit]

^^ I do agree, he is following footsteps of Manny by going up in weight and winning belts.

So that is the history, first Mexican to be a 5 time champion in different weight classes if he won in this Cruiserweight division. From 154,160,168,175 and now 190 lbs. So top of the pound for pound lists again. And I think someone is envy of his accomplished.

https://www.essentiallysports.com/boxing-news-floyd-mayweather-disgusted-by-canelo-alvarez-vs-ilunga-makabu/

Mayweather feels Canelo is ducking David Benavidez by moving up in weight classes. Per Michael Benson, ‘Money’ said: “Canelo’s a helluva fighter, but in my personal opinion he’s ducking David Benavidez… Do I like this [Ilunga Makabu] fight? Absolutely not. We wanna see Benavidez.”

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[agustina2]

^^ I do agree, he is following footsteps of Manny by going up in weight and winning belts.

Who is following Pacquiao's footsteps? Canelo? No way. He is not the type of boxer that will follow someone. He is creating his own journey and challenging on much higher division doesn't mean he is following Pacquiao's footsteps. They are also in a different league with Pacquiao.

What Canelo achieved or will achieve is his own legacy. He respects Pacquiao but does not follow him.

[Yaunfitda]

^^ I do agree, he is following footsteps of Manny by going up in weight and winning belts.

Who is following Pacquiao's footsteps? Canelo? No way. He is not the type of boxer that will follow someone. He is creating his own journey and challenging on much higher division doesn't mean he is following Pacquiao's footsteps. They are also in a different league with Pacquiao.

What Canelo achieved or will achieve is his own legacy. He respects Pacquiao but does not follow him.

Maybe what he meant is that he wanted to have the same achievement as Manny does, winning multiple titles in different weights.

Manny has won 8 already as most boxing pundits put it, while Canelo is attempting his 5th in CW division but I think that's the most that he will got and could be in the company of some of the best boxers who have won 5 titles or more like Oscar or Floyd. Manny is on top though.

[harizen]

Manny has won 8 already as most boxing pundits put it, while Canelo is attempting his 5th in CW division but I think that's the most that he will got and could be in the company of some of the best boxers who have won 5 titles or more like Oscar or Floyd. Manny is on top though.

That's a big task if Canelo will push up to 8 holding title within the Cruiserweight. No need to do it as he can step up on another level. However, there are lots of big names on his chosen path. If possible, Canelo might achieve another milestone in his career for the next 2-3 years challenging boxers in that division.

Just a surprise to me that Canelo is not aware of this fight and the plan of the supposed moving up. It was reported that he was surprised by his long-time trainer Eddy Reynoso and told him to take a shot in another title match against Ilunga Makabu. Meaning, Canelo's stepping up is just a plan but his trainer makes it real right away.

[herurist]

^^ I do agree, he is following footsteps of Manny by going up in weight and winning belts.

Who is following Pacquiao's footsteps? Canelo? No way. He is not the type of boxer that will follow someone. He is creating his own journey and challenging on much higher division doesn't mean he is following Pacquiao's footsteps. They are also in a different league with Pacquiao.

What Canelo achieved or will achieve is his own legacy. He respects Pacquiao but does not follow him.

why did he have to follow pacqui? I think something like this is irrelevant.
to respect each other is possible because even if we compete in the ring it doesn't mean we can't respect each other. but to imitate and follow? don't make stupid jokes like this when there are no clear facts and statements from the parties concerned

[Kemarit]

^^ I do agree, he is following footsteps of Manny by going up in weight and winning belts.

Who is following Pacquiao's footsteps? Canelo? No way. He is not the type of boxer that will follow someone. He is creating his own journey and challenging on much higher division doesn't mean he is following Pacquiao's footsteps. They are also in a different league with Pacquiao.

What Canelo achieved or will achieve is his own legacy. He respects Pacquiao but does not follow him.

why did he have to follow pacqui? I think something like this is irrelevant.
to respect each other is possible because even if we compete in the ring it doesn't mean we can't respect each other. but to imitate and follow? don't make stupid jokes like this when there are no clear facts and statements from the parties concerned

My point is that he is going up in weight we've never seen such boxers in recent memories.

And Canelo started in 154 and if he is going up in more than 30 lbs which Pacquaio did as well. And it's no joke although in the past there are a lot of boxers who also goes up in weight, but the impact that Pacquiao did is different specially for Mexico which Pacquiao has done for the Philippines. Of course he can't go to 8 weight class or even 6 because it's impossible for him to go to Heavyweight, but his accomplishments inside the ring, being pound for pound and the impact he brings and legacy (not political obviously) is similar to Manny.

[Jating]

^^ Regardless of what Canelo path right now, he is carving his own name in the history books.

I don't think we have seen fighters moving from 154 to 190 - 200 lbs and fight for the Cruiserweight title. Many of them only reaches as high as super Middleweight and then Roy Jones to Heavyweight.

So Canelo Alvarez the first Mexican to ever to do this feat and we are all witness to it.

[Ziskinberg]

^^ Regardless of what Canelo path right now, he is carving his own name in the history books.

I don't think we have seen fighters moving from 154 to 190 - 200 lbs and fight for the Cruiserweight title. Many of them only reaches as high as super Middleweight and then Roy Jones to Heavyweight.

So Canelo Alvarez the first Mexican to ever to do this feat and we are all witness to it.

And I wish him success so I have something to tell my grandkids once Canelo will succeed in the path he is trying to cross now. We might just say it's an easy fight for him but in reality there's a big risk that he will lose as Cruiserweight champions throw heavier punches than the fighters in the division where Canelo had won an undisputed champ.

[herurist]

^^ I do agree, he is following footsteps of Manny by going up in weight and winning belts.

Who is following Pacquiao's footsteps? Canelo? No way. He is not the type of boxer that will follow someone. He is creating his own journey and challenging on much higher division doesn't mean he is following Pacquiao's footsteps. They are also in a different league with Pacquiao.

What Canelo achieved or will achieve is his own legacy. He respects Pacquiao but does not follow him.

why did he have to follow pacqui? I think something like this is irrelevant.
to respect each other is possible because even if we compete in the ring it doesn't mean we can't respect each other. but to imitate and follow? don't make stupid jokes like this when there are no clear facts and statements from the parties concerned

My point is that he is going up in weight we've never seen such boxers in recent memories.

And Canelo started in 154 and if he is going up in more than 30 lbs which Pacquaio did as well. And it's no joke although in the past there are a lot of boxers who also goes up in weight, but the impact that Pacquiao did is different specially for Mexico which Pacquiao has done for the Philippines. Of course he can't go to 8 weight class or even 6 because it's impossible for him to go to Heavyweight, but his accomplishments inside the ring, being pound for pound and the impact he brings and legacy (not political obviously) is similar to Manny.

thanks for explaining.
when you talk like that, it's actually an achievement in itself because they can make something interesting with different classes, especially for these two boxers.
other than that I feel canelo will be able to make more extraordinary shocks with his achievements and his current age is still in a productive age for a boxer

[Fredomago]

^^ Regardless of what Canelo path right now, he is carving his own name in the history books.

I don't think we have seen fighters moving from 154 to 190 - 200 lbs and fight for the Cruiserweight title. Many of them only reaches as high as super Middleweight and then Roy Jones to Heavyweight.

So Canelo Alvarez the first Mexican to ever to do this feat and we are all witness to it.

And I wish him success so I have something to tell my grandkids once Canelo will succeed in the path he is trying to cross now. We might just say it's an easy fight for him but in reality there's a big risk that he will lose as Cruiserweight champions throw heavier punches than the fighters in the division where Canelo had won an undisputed champ.

Indeed, those fighters from this division is more stronger the trainings and conditioning is much heavier compared from where Alvarez dominates, his chance is there but not as how we foreseen his fight from his own weight division where we are just waiting for the final announcement and expecting his name to be declared as winner.

From here, we all be witness with this new path that Alvarez is trying to walk on. His skills will be challenged and if he succeeds.
That's more likely the beginning of the new chapter of his career.

[Kasabus]

^^ I do agree, he is following footsteps of Manny by going up in weight and winning belts.

Who is following Pacquiao's footsteps? Canelo? No way. He is not the type of boxer that will follow someone. He is creating his own journey and challenging on much higher division doesn't mean he is following Pacquiao's footsteps. They are also in a different league with Pacquiao.

What Canelo achieved or will achieve is his own legacy. He respects Pacquiao but does not follow him.

Maybe what he meant is that he wanted to have the same achievement as Manny does, winning multiple titles in different weights.

Manny has won 8 already as most boxing pundits put it, while Canelo is attempting his 5th in CW division but I think that's the most that he will got and could be in the company of some of the best boxers who have won 5 titles or more like Oscar or Floyd. Manny is on top though.

Pacquiao's achievements though is very hard to overcome or surpass, that man is the only one holding world title across eight different divisions while Floyd Mayweather is only holding world titles across four divisions same as Canelo, so yes this will be his 5th to attempt get another title in cruiserweight division.
Canelo's path is different as he said that he wants to unify the 5 belts in super-MW division, so that makes him a bit different to other pro boxers.

[Distinctin]

^^ I do agree, he is following footsteps of Manny by going up in weight and winning belts.

Nah man, certainly ain't going to agree about that. Canelo's footstep is going to be a much more different than Manny Pacquiao. Yes its sure looks like he's following but he sure knows that Pacquiao's footstep isn't easy to follow on or atleast be in his level and he also made it clear than he's going to make his own legacy than any other professional boxers. I think Canelo can continue what he plans, and by far Makabu and CW division is the toughest to step on.

Read this: www.dazn.com/en-US/news/amp/boxing/how-many-world-championships-has-saul-canelo-alvarez-won-a-full-list-of-his-major-title-wins/27afneqpuhbp1wjk08yfamjia

[Yamifoud]

^^ I do agree, he is following footsteps of Manny by going up in weight and winning belts.

Nah man, certainly ain't going to agree about that. Canelo's footstep is going to be a much more different than Manny Pacquiao. Yes its sure looks like he's following but he sure knows that Pacquiao's footstep isn't easy to follow on or atleast be in his level and he also made it clear than he's going to make his own legacy than any other professional boxers. I think Canelo can continue what he plans, and by far Makabu and CW division is the toughest to step on.

Read this: www.dazn.com/en-US/news/amp/boxing/how-many-world-championships-has-saul-canelo-alvarez-won-a-full-list-of-his-major-title-wins/27afneqpuhbp1wjk08yfamjia

Manny Pacquiao is the only 8th division worth champion, I guess Canelo is only 4 or 5 now? I think he cannot surpass the success of Pacquiao but his journey is still remarkable as he is the only fighter (correct me if I'm wrong) to try to dominate in heavyweight classes. Anyway, let's watch the result of his fight and judge his future afterward.

[harizen]

Manny Pacquiao is the only 8th division worth champion, I guess Canelo is only 4 or 5 now? I think he cannot surpass the success of Pacquiao but his journey is still remarkable as he is the only fighter (correct me if I'm wrong) to try to dominate in heavyweight classes. Anyway, let's watch the result of his fight and judge his future afterward.

What do you mean by surpassing? Generally, Canelo's competition is much tougher but that is obvious because that is where he is capable of. Pacquiao on the other hand goes the same. If everything is just counting the winning titles per weight class, Canelo can start at a much lighter division when he started up. There's should be no room for comparison here. Look at Canelo, now in Cruiserweight where he is just supposed or keep staying in Light Heavyweight or Welterweight division.

[agustina2]

From here, we all be witness with this new path that Alvarez is trying to walk on. His skills will be challenged and if he succeeds.
That's more likely the beginning of the new chapter of his career.

I hope so he will succeed. Cruiserweight is tough and there big names that he needed to fight in order to get that another top achievement in his career. If he is able to defeat Ilunga Makabu, those big names will be alarmed.

Step by step, I'm sure Canelo can make it. It's been a while since we saw a boxer with that kind of path. Let's follow what will happen to him.

[Fundamentals Of]

From here, we all be witness with this new path that Alvarez is trying to walk on. His skills will be challenged and if he succeeds.
That's more likely the beginning of the new chapter of his career.

I hope so he will succeed. Cruiserweight is tough and there big names that he needed to fight in order to get that another top achievement in his career. If he is able to defeat Ilunga Makabu, those big names will be alarmed.

Step by step, I'm sure Canelo can make it. It's been a while since we saw a boxer with that kind of path. Let's follow what will happen to him.

If Ilunga Makabu is defeated in this match against Canelo Alvarez, Canelo's boxing world will become significantly widened. His choices of opponents will become wider and wider. There will definitely be big names who will be interested to face Canelo knowing that he is still the same monster even in a much higher weight division. But it is interesting to see how Canelo would turn out in 190. That's an uncharted territory for him.

[Baofeng]

From here, we all be witness with this new path that Alvarez is trying to walk on. His skills will be challenged and if he succeeds.
That's more likely the beginning of the new chapter of his career.

I hope so he will succeed. Cruiserweight is tough and there big names that he needed to fight in order to get that another top achievement in his career. If he is able to defeat Ilunga Makabu, those big names will be alarmed.

Step by step, I'm sure Canelo can make it. It's been a while since we saw a boxer with that kind of path. Let's follow what will happen to him.

I think Canelo is just testing the waters in Cruiserweight, if he succeeded then maybe he could stay. But if he felt that the weight is too much for him, perhaps he will go down to Light Heavy Weight and make it a home for himself.

And there's a lot of good champions in there, like Beterviev who just recently won by a knock out.

We also have Bivol holding the other belts.

[Natalim]

From here, we all be witness with this new path that Alvarez is trying to walk on. His skills will be challenged and if he succeeds.
That's more likely the beginning of the new chapter of his career.

I hope so he will succeed. Cruiserweight is tough and there big names that he needed to fight in order to get that another top achievement in his career. If he is able to defeat Ilunga Makabu, those big names will be alarmed.

Step by step, I'm sure Canelo can make it. It's been a while since we saw a boxer with that kind of path. Let's follow what will happen to him.

I think Canelo is just testing the waters in Cruiserweight, if he succeeded then maybe he could stay. But if he felt that the weight is too much for him, perhaps he will go down to Light Heavy Weight and make it a home for himself.

And there's a lot of good champions in there, like Beterviev who just recently won by a knock out.

We also have Bivol holding the other belts.

He is testing like he is in his good comfort, why I'd say that? The betting line is very clear, he is the heavy favorite to win the fight although he has not won a single fight in this division, so people really believe he can make it and does not think much that Makabu can beat Canelo.

[btc_angela]

From here, we all be witness with this new path that Alvarez is trying to walk on. His skills will be challenged and if he succeeds.
That's more likely the beginning of the new chapter of his career.

I hope so he will succeed. Cruiserweight is tough and there big names that he needed to fight in order to get that another top achievement in his career. If he is able to defeat Ilunga Makabu, those big names will be alarmed.

Step by step, I'm sure Canelo can make it. It's been a while since we saw a boxer with that kind of path. Let's follow what will happen to him.

I think Canelo is just testing the waters in Cruiserweight, if he succeeded then maybe he could stay. But if he felt that the weight is too much for him, perhaps he will go down to Light Heavy Weight and make it a home for himself.

And there's a lot of good champions in there, like Beterviev who just recently won by a knock out.

We also have Bivol holding the other belts.

He is testing like he is in his good comfort, why I'd say that? The betting line is very clear, he is the heavy favorite to win the fight although he has not won a single fight in this division, so people really believe he can make it and does not think much that Makabu can beat Canelo.

I think the odds are base on the fighters record itself and Canelo although moving up the division has the advantage as per sport makers because of his records of going up it weight and winning, just like in the Kovalev fight. He also clean up the super middle so that speaks for Canelo's record. So Makabu or anyone should be ready for Canelo now in their division as he might do the same (cleaning it up).

[LUCKMCFLY]

^^ Regardless of what Canelo path right now, he is carving his own name in the history books.

I don't think we have seen fighters moving from 154 to 190 - 200 lbs and fight for the Cruiserweight title. Many of them only reaches as high as super Middleweight and then Roy Jones to Heavyweight.

So Canelo Alvarez the first Mexican to ever to do this feat and we are all witness to it.

And I wish him success so I have something to tell my grandkids once Canelo will succeed in the path he is trying to cross now. We might just say it's an easy fight for him but in reality there's a big risk that he will lose as Cruiserweight champions throw heavier punches than the fighters in the division where Canelo had won an undisputed champ.

The fact that Canelo has a higher level of demand is what draws the most attention, and I think he does not have it very easy, what happens is that we have a scheme of a Canelo that can do everything, and he fights so well, that It makes it look very easy, for me Canelo wins, but it is true that it is a category that has more weight than him, and this can affect him, although as I said before, Canelo has privileged genetics compared to many boxers, Makabu is a good boxer, And although he is in another category of more weight, Canelo will be able to make a difference and continue writing history.