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November 20, 2021, 12:39:18 PM |
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I like to see that the US will adopt with bitcoin but my mind is saying it will never happen.
If they will adopt, it's just like they admitted that their centralized fiat is defeated by bitcoin. A strong nation would always find a way to show to the world that they are not struggling, so crypto as a reserve is not likely to happen IMO.
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November 20, 2021, 12:49:01 PM |
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I like to see that the US will adopt with bitcoin but my mind is saying it will never happen.
If they will adopt, it's just like they admitted that their centralized fiat is defeated by bitcoin. A strong nation would always find a way to show to the world that they are not struggling, so crypto as a reserve is not likely to happen IMO.
they may not fully adopt but the volume of bitcoin trading alone says US is one of the very top traders in the world. so we don't need to wait for the full adoption because the adoption itself is already happening. and there are several politicians that are already pro-btc or pro-crypto as listed in this coindesk's article and it is still growing, now that we are already in 2021.
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November 20, 2021, 01:21:00 PM |
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IMO the comment was made not to threaten nation states but rather acknowledge that bitcoin and other crypto are gaining its fair share of the pie. Pretty sure they already recognize crypto and have already merited some of its features, though they are still clinging on to their fiat tool as it is still functional and its specifications can be altered to their liking whenever they wanted to.
I think they are, in a way, worrying that people are having their asses saved by cryptocurrencies, and that the people are slowly losing interest in fiat and leaving it behind by buying into crypto.
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November 20, 2021, 01:39:54 PM |
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It is a wake up call to nation States not to neglect the importance of crypto in today's world and the role it will play in economic sustainability, much time has passed since crypto has been in existence and breaking headlines but the government official's choose to ignore it, Hillary is simply drawing their attention to the inevitable.
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November 20, 2021, 05:32:05 PM |
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Clinton had probably seen the growth of other countries through the adoption of Bitcoin and see this as an opportunity for them to start giving Bitcoin more attention in order to remain the powerhouse currency, it's obvious how strong Bitcoin and how it can actually help the economy for USD to be better than before.
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November 20, 2021, 06:11:33 PM |
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I like to see that the US will adopt with bitcoin but my mind is saying it will never happen.
If they will adopt, it's just like they admitted that their centralized fiat is defeated by bitcoin. A strong nation would always find a way to show to the world that they are not struggling, so crypto as a reserve is not likely to happen IMO.
US government has a pride indeed but they are also practical government that will take side on which will help their economy meaning at some point this is bitcoin. Hillary Clinton is a supporter of bitcoin for long now and she stands favoring this . But the problem is the administration now, if this is favored as well in which i doubt they are. But anyway this one of the best news ever released these past months .
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November 20, 2021, 07:53:55 PM |
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Bitcoin has been around for years and only today she is seeing this supposed danger that I honestly don't see, that's because USD will always be used no matter how many years pass people will always be forced to use USD, people's wages are paid by USD in USA so i don't see that change one day. That's why I say that USD already has its place and bitcoin also has its place, none of them will replace the other
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November 20, 2021, 11:58:46 PM |
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Bitcoin has been around for years and only today she is seeing this supposed danger that I honestly don't see, that's because USD will always be used no matter how many years pass people will always be forced to use USD, people's wages are paid by USD in USA so i don't see that change one day. That's why I say that USD already has its place and bitcoin also has its place, none of them will replace the other
There economy is slowly collapsing and the existence of bitcoin is a big threat to them that's why its not surprising for having that statement. But as long as many people will not think the same way as him for sure this cannot affect the stability of bitcoins nowadays. So hopefully they will realize that bitcoin is really a good option and they pay attention on its growth since for sure if they adopt it the huge benefit from its growing economy will go to its adopter.
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November 21, 2021, 12:41:13 AM |
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serve them better if they just embrace and exploit it.
How would they exploit it? I'd say by buying it. I mean, lots of it. I'm thinking, if Bitcoin is indeed a serious threat to fiat currencies including the USD and its status as a reserve currency, why should they not then accumulate a lot of Bitcoin? Isn't it logical to do it? In which case, whether the threat will translate into something else or remain to be just a threat, at least the US has already made preparations. By saying that Bitcoin is an emerging threat and doing nothing about it, or perhaps opposing its rise which is futile as Bitcoin is more or less immortal so to speak, they are courting unnecessary risk. If they will adopt, it's just like they admitted that their centralized fiat is defeated by bitcoin. A strong nation would always find a way to show to the world that they are not struggling, so crypto as a reserve is not likely to happen IMO. I cannot cite any example but I assume there must have been powerful kingdoms in human history that crumbled due to stubbornness.
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It might become less profitible for the US government but not being the world reserve currency hasn't done too badly for the other countries that have had the title in the past.
I doubt crypto has the strength to overtake the dollar within a few years for example but there will likely be a solution that rises up that consumers/businesses accept (and we can hope it's not centrally controlled).
IMO government agencies will only go to extent of adoption of centralized cryptocurrency like xrp, bnb etc. For government agencies bitcoin is more dangerous then inflated dollar since decentralized btc gives them zero control over financial matters. Btc is designed to remain decentralized, something not desired by centralised bodies. Why would they aim for centralized currencies? They could create their own digital banking coins if they wanted a crypto alternative, and that gives them even more control than traditional cash does because they can be involved in every transaction. Most banking is done online anyways, so the entirety of someone's net worth appears on a bank statement in digitalized pixels produced by a private bank. If the government could take the existing principle of digital banking that people are already accustom to and transfer them to a CBDC system, there wouldn't be a need for government to adopt XRP or BNB (or whatever centralized crypto).
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November 21, 2021, 01:26:52 AM |
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Bitcoin has been around for years and only today she is seeing this supposed danger that I honestly don't see, that's because USD will always be used no matter how many years pass people will always be forced to use USD, people's wages are paid by USD in USA so i don't see that change one day. That's why I say that USD already has its place and bitcoin also has its place, none of them will replace the other
I am also quite confused by Hillary Clinton's statement, why she is only worried about Bitcoin now. Maybe she not paid attention to the development of Bitcoin so far, after all as long as Bitcoin was created until now there is no indication that it will harm fiat. Because from the beginning Bitcoin was created not to replace fiat, but only as an alternative payment. As you said both Bitcoin and fiat have their place, they will co-exist and complement each other. Bitcoin can grow rapidly like this, because Bitcoin can indeed provide an income solution in a pandemic situation like now to everyone. So Bitcoin will never replace fiat, so there is no need to worry about the presence of Bitcoin.
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November 21, 2021, 01:37:35 AM |
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It might become less profitible for the US government but not being the world reserve currency hasn't done too badly for the other countries that have had the title in the past.
I doubt crypto has the strength to overtake the dollar within a few years for example but there will likely be a solution that rises up that consumers/businesses accept (and we can hope it's not centrally controlled).
IMO government agencies will only go to extent of adoption of centralized cryptocurrency like xrp, bnb etc. For government agencies bitcoin is more dangerous then inflated dollar since decentralized btc gives them zero control over financial matters. Btc is designed to remain decentralized, something not desired by centralised bodies. Looks like they are in trouble now and they're looking for something to put all the blame and sadly out of multiple choices, they chose bitcoin to blame on the inflation of USD. I don't know but more likely USD is sinking and we might be facing an economic disaster once again. they should have gladly accepted bitcoin rather than blaming it. It won't change the fact that it would save them from their upcoming economic crisis. This nation hasn't been honest to themselves and always play as a victim when they were the one who ruins their country and other countries as well.
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November 21, 2021, 01:52:51 AM |
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I think it's a threat for USD to last until the end, it's not easy for them to defend it, because behind it all, people have started paying attention to cryptocurrencies. But I also feel that USD and cryptocurrencies will fight for their strength, even they are equally strong and can be expected ..!!
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November 21, 2021, 02:10:33 AM |
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I think it's a threat for USD to last until the end, it's not easy for them to defend it, because behind it all, people have started paying attention to cryptocurrencies. But I also feel that USD and cryptocurrencies will fight for their strength, even they are equally strong and can be expected ..!!
Im not really seeing that way on which they've been too alarmed about that possibility because it cant really be that possible that fiat would be wiped out easily because community does have much trust on whats the purpose of having government on the first place. Of course it would really be just normal for them to have that reaction because they dont like that is something opposing centralization thats why they are trying to crack up and trying to regulate everything. Its normal that there would be such reactions but i dont believe that they worry about.
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Funny thing is Bitcoin is more of threat to USD when the USD is handled poorly. For example when the US government prints trillions and trillions more dollars than they can recover in tax revenue, thus inflating the currency.
Basically what Hillary wants is the ability for the Gov to mess around with the US dollar without a viable alternative for their citizens.
Bitcoin changes that landscape, allowing an alternative for when their citizens say enough is enough.
So conversely it’s the government’s mismanagement of the USD that makes Bitcoin attractive and gives it more power. Hell Satoshi likely built Bitcoin as response to runaway USD inflation and printing by central banks. Satoshi spoke about that around the inception of Bitcoin and made a great point about the inflation control built into Bitcoin at its core. Not just core code but core philosophy.
Bitcoin would have less power, less reason to exist if fiat currencies like the USD were managed in the best interest of the population and not in the best interest of government power and banks power.
Hillary intelligently deflects by saying Bitcoin is the issue.
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She only means Bitcoin, not crypto, whether she realises it or not. There really is no other crypto that threatens US dollar the way Bitcoin can. Not that that was ever the end game for Bitcoin. The US dollar is under threat, always has been, from every other monetary alternative. Bitcoin just happens to be the one the US government has the least control over, understands the least and, therefore, makes it the most dangerous threat.
They shouldn't pay attention to Bitcoin and view it as an enemy to fight though. Watch it and learn lessons from its successes (and failures) and use the knowledge to fix your own house.
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November 21, 2021, 07:10:58 PM |
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She only means Bitcoin, not crypto, whether she realises it or not. There really is no other crypto that threatens US dollar the way Bitcoin can. Not that that was ever the end game for Bitcoin. The US dollar is under threat, always has been, from every other monetary alternative. Bitcoin just happens to be the one the US government has the least control over, understands the least and, therefore, makes it the most dangerous threat.
They shouldn't pay attention to Bitcoin and view it as an enemy to fight though. Watch it and learn lessons from its successes (and failures) and use the knowledge to fix your own house.
When they don't have control over it, the government consider it a threat. This seems to be the common view of governments. Very few governments understand it in the right way and try to benefit out of it. America being the world leader in terms of economy it has direct/indirect control over every country. As said, rather than considering it a threat learning the way to succeed is the right thing. The governments have the power to frame laws, but it is the users who find ways to use it bypassing the laws and restrictions. So, her words aren't gonna make any impact over the market.
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November 21, 2021, 07:14:21 PM |
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Now all the politician will start talking about crypto, but few years ago they ignored it. I remember once Donald trump said, crypto are too small to worry about it. Now once it's getting bigger, they are worried about it. Good to see that now more people will now know abt crypto.
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It might become less profitible for the US government but not being the world reserve currency hasn't done too badly for the other countries that have had the title in the past.
I doubt crypto has the strength to overtake the dollar within a few years for example but there will likely be a solution that rises up that consumers/businesses accept (and we can hope it's not centrally controlled).
IMO government agencies will only go to extent of adoption of centralized cryptocurrency like xrp, bnb etc. For government agencies bitcoin is more dangerous then inflated dollar since decentralized btc gives them zero control over financial matters. Btc is designed to remain decentralized, something not desired by centralised bodies. Why would they aim for centralized currencies? They could create their own digital banking coins if they wanted a crypto alternative, and that gives them even more control than traditional cash does because they can be involved in every transaction. Most banking is done online anyways, so the entirety of someone's net worth appears on a bank statement in digitalized pixels produced by a private bank. If the government could take the existing principle of digital banking that people are already accustom to and transfer them to a CBDC system, there wouldn't be a need for government to adopt XRP or BNB (or whatever centralized crypto). I don't think any company in stablecoins at the moment would be trusted by any government to handle their currency either. Only a few countries produce most of the currencies in the world too, they'd likely not want to lose that monopoly. There probably will be a few cbdcs to spring up but I doubt there will be any way it's made less favourable than storing money in a bank (governments want you to need banks so they can claim to be the reason the economy has grown).
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