Bitcointalk Rules..Bend/Break

[Oshosondy]

That was what I believed when I first came to the forum. You're right Oshosondy buying account is taking shortcuts

What I was also thinking when I joined, but later I saw it to be wrong too, what matters is to be visiting the forum often and post quality posts on quality threads.

Additionally, bought accounts in bounties are spammers. They don't understand forum rules and only spam to get money from bounties. It's harmful for the forum and community.

I am not insinuating this to you that you are wrong, you are right, but nothing yet changed about the bounty hunters with very high spam posts but paid by bounty managers.

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[GeorgeJohn]

I also found your other thread. You think selling accounts for $500 will discourage "unlawful account sales?". Is there such a thing as a lawful sale? It's been a long since you posted this thread, are your beliefs on the subject still the same?

It was just a suggestion, but the forum members turned it down, I later had to think about it and noticed I was wrong, it has been discussed in the past and theymos is not having thinking in that direction. If we think of it, someone involving himself here in discussion will rank up if having good posts, that is all that matters. For those that bought account, it is not hard to know them here that they are new. If it is still hard to know them, they are not resistant to ban if the account bought is found guity of not obeying the forum rules that can lead to ban.

Change in password, posting pattern, change in local boards or language are good indicators that an account has changed hands. Ranking up isn't easy for newcomers. That was what I believed when I first came to the forum. You're right Oshosondy buying account is taking shortcuts

Yes of course, if an account change method of posting you will easily detect it, but some people can as well buy account and follow the method of the previous person that was handling the account initially, so to detect a bought account is not difficult for someone who doesn't know the rudiments or procedures of the community that purchased account, that is the reason while when you see some higher account user's asking a question you expected a newbie to ask thenyou will be shocked because maybe the point of the user doesn't sounds like someone who has been into the system for a period of time, And in addition, they will definitely fine it very difficult to earn merit like before.

[Issa56]

Every member of the forum knows that trading of accounts is highly discouraged so any member that want to sell or buy Bitcointalk account knows that he is going against the forum rules and there is punishment for that so if they are caught I believe both the buyer and the seller should be given a negative trust for going against the forum rules.

[DdmrDdmr]

<…> any member that want to sell or buy Bitcointalk account knows that he is going against the forum rules <…>

Well, the point of this thread is to discuss the rule highlighted and quoted in the OP. It clearly states that accounts sales are actually allowed. It does not, however, dwell on the lateral side effects of doing so, which are depicted on subsequent posts within this thread. The virtual corollary is a sort of "but don’t", despite it being allowed.

[Issa56]

<…> any member that want to sell or buy Bitcointalk account knows that he is going against the forum rules <…>

Well, the point of this thread is to discuss the rule highlighted and quoted in the OP. It clearly states that accounts sales are actually allowed. It does not, however, dwell on the lateral side effects of doing so, which are depicted on subsequent posts within this thread. The virtual corollary is a sort of "but don’t", despite it being allowed.

Waw seriously I think trading of account is really illegal in the forum thanks for the awareness maybe I will have to go true the forum rules again but I think trading of accounts shouldn't be a good idea. Why will you buy account you should be able to build your account yourself and am sure some people will buy account just to do illegal things.

[Oceat]

I'd like a more strict rule on this forum. There are some things that are left to the interpretation of moderators and with how big the forum is, some things tend to get lost in translation. But the acc selling rule is a hard one. Sure, it should be a stricter punishment than just waving your finger at the person, but anything stricter (ban or suspension) should come with strong evidence of wrongdoing, and a lot of time, that's impossible.

The topic account selling is allowed yet they don't which is kind of confusing to some forum users but one thing that I know is that moderators/DTs doesn't like account selling they always tag someone who has a solid evidence of selling an account. I don't know how they want to allow it to some users, like friend or something if some reputable user sold his or give his/her account to their friend(s).

That rule somehow must be changed to discouraging account selling and not just allowed account selling since the bottom line is always "don't you'll get red tag". I don't know how many times they have been discussing this topic but theymos probably knew about this yet just leave it to the users.

[Mpamaegbu]

Permit me but I feel like this particular rule needs modifications, if not how would account sales be allowed and yet disencouraged?

I shared the same perspective on this in another thread a few days ago here 👇 Find below my view from the post as seen in the snippet from the quoted comment.

My dear, it's really the height of a hidden paradox. Frankly, I have tried to wrap my head around that part too of something being allowed but then discouraged and it keeps beating me hallow. To put it mildly, it doesn't make sense to me.

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Different shades of opinion emanated from that discourse which still didn't assuage my confusion. It's like scheming something to intentionally ensnare someone. I sincerely hope theymos will throw light on that or simply abolish it.

[DdmrDdmr]

I’d rather them being prohibited, so as to have a solid reference on how to act, that it be left an arbitrary thing depending on the criteria of different discrepant individuals. I was actually looking for a quote of the matter from the higher spheres of the forum, and came across this: https://bitcointalk.org/?topic=5197446.0

The quote in the first post seems like a non-real-quote (as shown by the note at the end of the post, the wrong pointing quote link, and the fact that there is no such post made by @theymos, neither on Bitcointalk nor any of the archive sites I’ve looked at), but it gives an idea on how arbitrary the criteria can be on such a matter.
 
Whilst people are bound to differ in opinion on the topic at hand, or to the shades of grey implied as exemplified by the above referenced post, it does seem an overall conceptual conflict to allow account sales, but to discourage them, and even lead them to be tagged for it. A more logical approach would be to prohibit them (try and control that though), and report proven cases for appropriate action to be taken to either party.