Generous Source of Merit Only In Global Section.

[bitcoinsenyum]

i don't know why it's so hard to get Merit in my local council (indonesia)..but i will be honest it's very different when i read,,then see most of the newbies in each local council can easily get Merit,,both that Non-source of Merit nor source of Merit is very generous. .

i don't mean to compare. .but the reality is like that... both the Non-source of Merit and the source Merit that I see are very generous... then what's the point he of accommodating Merit?
To be honest - I see many Indonesian members prefer to interact on the global side rather than on the local side. .

ok i know i haven't made any contribution in forum but of course i very happy and excited to show my knowledge about bitcoin,, after someone +1 for my journey in global section. .

By the way for which account you're talking about since this account has only 2 posts and none from Indonesian board.

nama akun : senyumbitcoin (indonesia) ---  my name : smilebitcoin (inggris)

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[Beparanf]

i don't know why it's so hard to get Merit in my local council (indonesia)..but i will be honest it's very different when i read,,then see most of the newbies in each local council can easily get Merit,,both that Non-source of Merit nor source of Merit is very generous. .

i don't mean to compare. .but the reality is like that... both the Non-source of Merit and the source Merit that I see are very generous... then what's the point he of accommodating Merit?
To be honest - I see many Indonesian members prefer to interact on the global side rather than on the local side. .

ok i know i haven't made any contribution in forum but of course i very happy and excited to show my knowledge about bitcoin,, after someone +1 for my journey in global section. .

It depends on your local board but some other local board are very generous more than global. Maybe the problem is there's only few merit source available on your local and most your local board user don't spend much posting on your local board, My comments is just an assumption since I don't visit your local board. This is same with my Local Board(Philippines), That's why most Filipino user is aiming to post quality content via global.

If you have a quality post or thread, You can post it's link some global merit thread. They are giving merits if your post is really quality even if its in your Local Board.

[bitmover]

To be honest - I see many Indonesian members prefer to interact on the global side rather than on the local side. .

ok i know i haven't made any contribution in forum but of course i very happy and excited to show my knowledge about bitcoin,, after someone +1 for my journey in global section. .

Well, to be honest, if you want to have a high level discussion about any subject related to computer science, coding, new technology, etc you must be able to speak English, because all high level discussion happen in English.

As the best discussions are in English, it is natural that most merits will flow to the global forum.

[Findingnemo]

In general the language of internet is English but bitcointalk doesn't stop people from interacting in their local language that's how the local boards came into bitcointalk of I am not wrong.

When we talk about merit distribution its all subjective and number of active members in the community, number of sMerits they hold and number of merit sources are there even it depends how much share they got to spend in the monthly quota of their source merits.

But if you take number of posts vs merits then local boards are still ahead in the ratio when we compare with Global section so called main discussion including others as well.

By the way for which account you're talking about since this account has only 2 posts and none from Indonesian board.

[jackg]

Well, to be honest, if you want to have a high level discussion about any subject related to computer science, coding, new technology, etc you must be able to speak English, because all high level discussion happen in English.

I think English is probably the major language a lot of the terms related the high level computing exist too (a lot of European higher education institutions seem to teach courses in English - in some cases exclusively).


As the others have said, a lot of local boards don't have many merit sources but a lot don't have many active users either.

I don't know if there's going to be a workaround to level up in the local boards, maybe every so often a user from local boards should post a topic in meta quoting posts of other users on their board they think deserve merit and then another user can merit them if they determine the posts to be of substance (after using translation tools or similar).

[icopress]

Well, to be honest, if you want to have a high level discussion about any subject related to computer science, coding, new technology, etc you must be able to speak English, because all high level discussion happen in English. As the best discussions are in English, it is natural that most merits will flow to the global forum.

Frankly speaking, I fundamentally disagree with you, since I have repeatedly come across interesting technical threads in local sections that have not been duplicated or previously featured in the global section. Here's one example ... storing a backup copy of the seed-phrase in the bitcoin blockchain. I may not be as advanced as some of the people who always write in the "Bitcoin Technical Support" section, but if I had seen something like this before, I would have noticed.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

If you have a quality post or thread, You can post it's link some global merit thread. They are giving merits if your post is really quality even if its in your Local Board.

Uh...there's that one thread I know of in Meta for undermerited members/posts, but the ones that get linked to there are usually posts made in English.  I'd love to be able to help OP out, but I wouldn't be able to read his posts.  But I thought the Indonesian board was pretty well-covered as far as merit sources go.  Maybe I'm mistaken.

Well, to be honest, if you want to have a high level discussion about any subject related to computer science, coding, new technology, etc you must be able to speak English, because all high level discussion happen in English.

As the best discussions are in English, it is natural that most merits will flow to the global forum.

I tend to agree with you there, but as far as posting on the forum and earning merits goes, knowing English and being able to write it correctly and coherently is a huge advantage, whether the discussion is high level or not.  Most merit sources frequent the English sections, and there probably aren't enough sources for each local board.

My advice is that if you can't write English very well, don't try to earn merits that way.  Many have tried, few have succeeded.

[2double0]

Then either you lack of merit sources in your local board or people with good knowledge of your language, or may be they don't want to spend time giving merits. If it is about local, it depends on the users from your own local community if they understand your contents and see it as a (merit)worthy contribution, they will give you merits without any doubt.

[vv181]

i don't know why it's so hard to get Merit in my local council (indonesia)..but i will be honest it's very different when i read,,then see most of the newbies in each local council can easily get Merit,,both that Non-source of Merit nor source of Merit is very generous. .

There are two active Indonesian merit sources and there is an initiative thread whose every local Indonesian user is able to review each other post, to examine whether it is a merit-worthy post or not([HELP]Bantuan untuk menaikkan Rank (Newbie s.d Hero) V.2 [UPDATE]), I don't see why would it hard to get merit there, not to mention, lately there has been a user who ranked up by getting a lot of merit from local users.

In retrospect, since your account is recently made and merit-mongering, it made me suspicious that you are an alt account of the one who was once complained about not getting merits and also comparing our local board to others. Anyway, how can you able to said that it's hard to get merit in the Indonesian local board while you haven't made any post over there

sorry the link source you shared is not working properly, when i want to access it it only leads to my profile  

Fixed it.

[bitcoinsenyum]

There are two active Indonesian merit sources and there is an initiative thread whose every local Indonesian user is able to review each other post, to examine whether it is a merit-worthy post or not([HELP]Bantuan untuk menaikkan Rank (Newbie s.d Hero) V.2 [UPDATE]), I don't see why would it hard to get merit there, not to mention, lately there has been a user who ranked up by getting a lot of merit from local users.

sorry the link source you shared is not working properly, when i want to access it it only leads to my profile 

[Shamm]

Actually we are the same case but in my local board there's a reason why our merit source didn't active interms of giving Merit. Because they are busy in their project.  And in additional merit source in global section are More generous than our local boards because some other members didn't create a constructive thread/reply
In their respective local boards because of the campaign they partisipated cause some campaigns did not accept Post from local boards.
So the merit source decides look  constructive post in global section.

[bestcoins1]

It depends on your local board but some other local board are very generous more than global. Maybe the problem is there's only few merit source available on your local and most your local board user don't spend much posting on your local board, My comments is just an assumption since I don't visit your local board. This is same with my Local Board(Philippines), That's why most Filipino user is aiming to post quality content via global.

If you have a quality post or thread, You can post it's link some global merit thread. They are giving merits if your post is really quality even if its in your Local Board.

Well this is actually some users don't have enough merit most of Merit has been spent in previous years without regaining new merit
Because smerit is limited seniors have to choose which one is most worthy to be awarded. I also don't deny that seniors prefer to share with other seniors from new accounts.

[LoyceV]

i don't know why it's so hard to get Merit in my local council (indonesia)..

To get Merited, you need 2 things: good posts, and people with sMerit who read them. If I can't read the posts, I can't Merit them.

I'll post this again:

If someone (~?) can share a bunch of useful posts from different users on the local board, I'll Merit them.

Note that this has to come from an established member who's judgement on post quality I can trust (and the posters shouldn't be inactive/banned/scammers).

[Daniel91]

The main language of this forum is English and it is logical that the most important things happen in the English part of the forum, quality discussions, exchange of information, giving merits for quality posts etc.
If there is a disproportion in the local part of the forum between the number of quality posts and the number of shared merits, then someone should explain the situation here in Meta, and than I suggest that some local member, with a good reputation on the forum,  apply here for a merit source.
In this way, other local parts of the forum got their local merit source, including the Croatian part of the forum.
A few years ago, the same problem existed in the Croatian part of the forum, a lot of quality posts but lack of merits, and then I applied for merit source and when the admin accepted my request, I opened this topic in the Croatian part of the forum, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4265795.0 where all local members can report your quality posts and get merit.
I suggest you do something similar. Theymos is a very reasonable person and if your request is justified, he will approve it.

[RapTarX]

Actually we are the same case but in my local board there's a reason why our merit source didn't active interms of giving Merit.

Did you mean merit source in your local board is inactive? Well, it's not anyone’s job though they have their own responsibility to share merit on good quality post. If you think someone (merit source) is inactive in terms of giving merits, you are free to apply to be a merit source if you believe your local need an active merit source. theymos may consider including you as merit source based on your judgement of sharing merits.

[DdmrDdmr]

The Indonesian Local board is receiving a rough average of 230 Merits over the last 5 months. Nearly double than a year ago, but well below what it was two years ago and further behind:
https://public.tableau.com/shared/N8ZPB4RJP?:display_count=n&:origin=viz_share_link

There are roughly 30 people sending merit there per recent month, and a bit above that figure receiving:
https://public.tableau.com/shared/6MMX89CW6?:display_count=n&:origin=viz_share_link

Clearly, the main Merit Source has been rather inactive over the past year, and came to a stall lately, as did another noticeable contributor there:
https://public.tableau.com/shared/SWT375326?:display_count=n&:origin=viz_share_link

Posts have been declining there over time, although that is not something specific to the Indonesian local board:
https://public.tableau.com/shared/QW3MF9X7F?:display_count=n&:origin=viz_share_link

Merit per post is rather variable, although seemingly better over the last few months than the prior:
https://public.tableau.com/shared/QJWS9N5BS?:display_count=n&:origin=viz_share_link

Now as I’ve often said, the above depicts a scenario that, on it’s own, is not enough to be properly read. You need local board context to get a better grip, relating the above to the actual content being created.

[BITCOIN4X]

i don't know why it's so hard to get Merit in my local council (indonesia)..but i will be honest it's very different when i read,,then see most of the newbies in each local council can easily get Merit,,both that Non-source of Merit nor source of Merit is very generous.

I'm probably the first Indonesian to give a different opinion on what you're complaining about. I don't agree with your opinion because it's hard or not for you to get merit only depend on the quality of the post you have regardless of whether the board has multiple merit source or not. If you can verify the veracity of your current complaint, could you please tell me which quality posters (especially newbie) are currently having a hard time getting merit on local Indonesian boards? If you can show it to me then I will be willing to review the post and give it a merit.

One of the determining indicator to get merit is not contribution, but you just need to make quality post. You should also know that some users have high standard but I'm sure it's just some of them while others vary. I only advise you to be willing to learn how the merit system works because only then will your mindset about merit change immediately.

Keep in mind that the merit system is not moderated and you may still struggle to get merit even if you have quality post and you also can't expect to get merit on every post you make even if you consider it a quality post. I don't think you are a new user because actually you are very knowledgeable about the merit system and also you are brave enough to compare it to other local board.

[bitcoinsenyum]

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i don't know why it's so hard to get Merit in my local council (indonesia)..

I can't show quality posters from (beginners) who have difficulty getting merit on local (Indonesian) boards. but i can show quality posters (beginners) on local boards (russian, italian, croatian, india, portuguese, german, spanish) based on my observations so far.

I would like to add that you are not one of the first Indonesian to comment on this thread.

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mining pake cpu enaknya mining magi..
itu kalau ga salah zpool udah scam ya?

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ICONOMI bilang dalam 10 hari akan di keluarkan token maksudnya mungkin di distribusikan
soal exchanger belum ada di bahas paling ini lagi negosiasi sama pihak exchanger

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Daftar website harga bitcoin :
BitcoinAverage
BitcoinWisdom
Bitcoin.co.id
CoinDesk
Preev

but I'm happy for the advice you recommend, next time I will try to understand how the merit system works before becoming a quality poster with (English - fluent) or other than being a quality poster.

[GeorgeJohn]

i don't know why it's so hard to get Merit in my local council (indonesia)..but i will be honest it's very different when i read,,then see most of the newbies in each local council can easily get Merit,,both that Non-source of Merit nor source of Merit is very generous.

i have never entered to Indonesia local community before, but when looking at other local boards they really contribute for their forum offsprings upliftment, the major concern to the seniors there is to educate the young once, like guide on what to do, some people in different board get acquainted of the forum through their local communities communication. Indonesia old forum users help your people, I'm not from there. But it's what i have to say.

i don't mean to compare. .but the reality is like that... both the Non-source of Merit and the source Merit that I see are very generous... then what's the point he of accommodating Merit?
To be honest - I see many Indonesian members prefer to interact on the global side rather than on the local side. .

I really like this point of yours in one perspective, everyone knows it more better that accommodating Smerit don't have any help to any person that has it, Smerit is meant to be dispense to every user who are doing absolutely well, in normal circumstances, someone have to embrace it's local community first before going out to global community, shall we can't blame merit source from there specifically, because before you become a merit source during the application you will make a mentioned of specific  board your Merit will be dispense or distributes before such portfolio Will be given, but at least some who earn Merit have to be helping hands to their newbies.

[_BlackStar]

I can't show quality posters from (beginners) who have difficulty getting merit on local (Indonesian) boards.

You just look funny the way you complain while you can't show any evidence of that. Based on the threads that rikafip [CHARTS] Brief monthly overview of the local boards activity keep updated on a monthly basis, I can say that your local board has become one that has over 200 merit distribution in recent month, probably far more than some of the other local board. So what's the point of you complaining, did you not get anything?