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December 02, 2021, 08:12:13 AM
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Select beep39, select legacy and change derivation path to m/0'

  I did this correctly and even tried 2-3 more times '
continue I didn't encounter any problems but I guess it didn't pull the btc addresses correctly and my btc didn't show up
Does the recovered wallet show any transaction history in Electrum or is there none?
Are you absolutely sure that the coins are still there?
Do you know which addresses hold the coins? If you enter them in a block explorer such as https://blockstream.info/ or https://blockchair.com/, does it show you the correct balances?

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December 02, 2021, 11:28:20 AM
Last edit: November 14, 2023, 11:34:14 PM by HCP
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I tried using that web site to generate xprv BIP32 Extended Private Key. The addresses matched under the BIP32 tab using MultiBit option, but when I paste the key into Electrum to restore, it generates completely different addresses! I can go to Wallet > Master Public Key in Electrum, and the xpub key still matches the xpub key on the site, but they have different addresses entirely.
This is very confusing to me... I can only assume it is a derivation path issue (or possibly a script type issue? Huh). If you have the same key + same derivation path (and script type), then you should be getting the same addresses.


However, I think the issue might be because DELTECHE is trying to use the xprv... when you use Master Private Keys (xprv) with Electrum, it doesn't give you the ability to select the derivation path.

In a quick test I just did... starting with an 18 word BIP39 seed:
Code:
demand disorder unit nurse surge patrol satoshi anchor because runway upgrade claim split labor security minor split sell

This generates the following addresses in Electrum (using 'BIP39 seed' option, legacy addresses and derivation path m/0'):





Now, if I look at Ian Coleman... same 18 word seed, using BIP32 tab + MultiBit HD from the "client" options:



We can see the exact same addresses:






However, if you try and take the "BIP32 Root Key" from Ian Coleman:
Code:
xprv9s21ZrQH143K2ZRDWraxpi37q53mDq5o7sc6wyT7rToRncfyAfyJhha7oXxstqPiroaZx89wWVGjRvvLV8hGq1Hi3RuDySj9S4zjDEcQKF6



That generates this in Electrum:




And the "BIP32 Extended Private Key" from Ian Coleman:
Code:
xprv9wDwnu5YwiffoGgeThEXGJef96fExwqBSKQxoxCWwrcJJJACGAGD5FgfVA4mM2LpGaDiW21oePR2rQStRJU7yqSbR4XvfkXJXxwwpysjUDr



Generates this in Electrum:






Essentially... if you want to take the xprv for a MultiBitHD seed from Ian Coleman... and make it work in Electrum... you need to do this:

Set the "BIP32" tab, to use a "custom" client... and set the derivation path to m/0'



Then take the "BIP32 Extended Private Key":
Code:
xprv9uEFwpm1if6DiCQQYeSWgrFmcK1i48Kd2EkHt3qcdVjty7o6C1dBjC9fXpTKHKSL8GiiDzbp8HrYaEtC3Z7uHr8yHGXbCQKcULoz6XNwBNE



Paste that into the "Standard Wallet" -> "Use a master key" option in Electrum:


And that will generate the same addresses as the seed does:






Or just do it the stupidly easy way... and use the seed + 'BIP39 seed' option + Legacy + m/0' derivation path directly in Electrum and save yourself a lot of time and bother Tongue Roll Eyes





Ok, firstly... please forgive the double posting, but I feel like this very important information might get lost in my very long previous post!


For better or worse, I contacted the user via Telegram... mainly just to let them know I had posted my big long post regarding seeds/xprvs and MultiBit HD... and they sent me a screenshot that revealed the user is actually using some very dodgy looking "MultiBit Core"... (https: //multibitwallet . org/index.php ) a complete scam that looks like a clone of the old "bitsblock . io" scam... creating a wallet that looks like Bitcoin Core, but supposedly has an 18 word seed recovery system.

It has so many dodgy red flags tho... You sign up and get emailed your 18 word recovery phrase!!?! Shocked Shocked


Refer: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230464.0 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5225197.msg53854675#msg53854675

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December 02, 2021, 12:08:34 PM
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It has so many dodgy red flags tho... You sign up and get emailed your 18 word recovery phrase!!?! Shocked Shocked

Wow...  Shocked
Then how did OP recover the addresses/private keys with IanColeman bip39 tool?!
..and OP didn't check any of those (alleged) addresses on a block explorer to see it actually has funds or not?!

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December 02, 2021, 12:50:34 PM
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Yes. This is what I said here:

The BIP32 Extended Private Key generated from Ian Coleman with the MultiBit option selected is at m/0'/0, whereas Electrum needs to it to be at m/0'. If you wanted to import the Extended Private Key, then you need to change from "MultiBit" to "Custom derivation path", change the derivation path form m/0'/0 to m/0', and then import that new Extended Private Key to Electrum. But I would just copy the individual keys as I said above, since the different derivation paths seem to be causing you confusion.

The issue is that Electrum adds /0/0 on to the end of whatever derivation path you choose, whereas Ian Coleman adds /0 on to the end, so you cannot copy extended keys between them without accounting for this.

It sounds like if OP has tried putting his seed phrase in to this scam wallet, though, then his coins will already be lost.
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December 03, 2021, 07:59:19 AM
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Great and detailed research you performed there. Will surely help.

What an unfortunate turn of events. I told OP in my previous post to check on a block explorer if the addresses that are supposed to hold the coins still have those +5 bitcoins. Because if not and they were moved in a transaction that OP never carried out, no recovery method is going to help him.

@DELTECHE
Did you at any point have access to this wallet in the past?
Were you the one who downloaded and installed the wallet, and transferred the coins there?
Or was it given to you or did you purchase it?

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