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Author Topic: [SCAM] LocalMonero.co/Agoradesk.com Admin scammed for 35XMR=9000usd  (Read 732 times)
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November 24, 2021, 03:20:40 PM
Last edit: December 03, 2021, 09:18:16 PM by ScammedbyLocalMonero
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Agoradesk.com/LocalMonero.co is Ukrainian based Scam exchanger!!!

Scammers Profile Link: LocalMonero
Reference Link: https://agoradesk.com/user/audy
Amount Scammed: 35 XMR = 9000-9500 USD
Payment Method: Monero XMR
PM/Chat Logs: https://ibb.co/Nxfxxgb
Additional Notes: I cannot access my account

The Admin of Agoradesk.com/LocalMonero.co telegram group https://t.me/LocalMonero is a Scumbag. His telegram is https://t.me/Alex_LocalMonero_AgoraDesk

This is a screenshot of my chat with him https://ibb.co/Nxfxxgb

I've know about LocalMonero for about a year but didn't really trusted them because it is shitty centralised platform and outdated website looks like crap, it doesn't build trust at all. And now, after loosing my money I know I should avoid even registering with them.

Agoradesk.com/LocalMonero.co scammed me for 9500 usd by blocking my account right after I deposited another 10 xmr

This is my account https://agoradesk.com/user/audy

You can see they add a message=reason  inventing an excuse to steal my money, linking me to other profile who, I found out later, Alex admin of Localmonero had an argument with.

As I see now LocalMonero admin decided to cover his loose on my account. If they do it over 9500 usd than this means they have no trading volume and profit and ready to take your money just like that. They will make it look like it is your fault or whatever.

Check this https://t.me/MoneroUK/12051
I contacted this guy and asked him what happened between him and Localmonero(scammers) and it looks like I am not the first one who was scammed by localmonero aka agoradesk
 
Avoid this scammers and your money will be saved.

That was my last time I ever user centralised exchanger. It is 3rd time I got burned.

LocalMonero aka AgoraDesk is scam!!!!
Stay away from it!!!!
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Last edit: November 30, 2021, 10:55:04 AM by hugeblack
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Sorry for your loss, but their site is poorly programmed, and therefore it is difficult to trust them because it is an indication that they have a limited budget and therefore it is easy to find loopholes in it.
In general, always know that when you trade on peer-to-peer platforms, you must do it on a trusted platform and with trusted people, otherwise the probability of losing money will be more than 90%.




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Sorry for your loss, but their site is poorly programmed, and therefore it is difficult to trust them because it is an indication that they have a limited budget and therefore it is easy to find loopholes in it.
In general, always know that when you trade on peer-to-peer platforms, you must do it on a trusted platform and with trusted people, otherwise the probability of losing money will be more than 90%.

could you support me on his trust level? here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;addflag=1112037
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you should edit the OP and use the format quoted below to properly layout your accusation. you should also include the user's profile you are accusing so people have an idea of who you are talking about.

anyway, here is the guy you are talking about LocalMonero correct? weirdly, they also logged in today after being inactive for a long time.

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If they have evidence that the accounts are connected. Then they should be able to produce proof linking the accounts. Have they shown you any proof in the telegram chats you had with them?

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If they have evidence that the accounts are connected. Then they should be able to produce proof linking the accounts. Have they shown you any proof in the telegram chats you had with them?

no https://ibb.co/Nxfxxgb
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November 24, 2021, 09:19:33 PM
Last edit: November 27, 2021, 11:38:48 PM by LocalMonero
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anyway, here is the guy you are talking about LocalMonero correct? weirdly, they also logged in today after being inactive for a long time.

Yup, that's us. We logged in today to respond to this thread.

If they have evidence that the accounts are connected. Then they should be able to produce proof linking the accounts. Have they shown you any proof in the telegram chats you had with them?

We never act without thoroughly investigating something and gathering evidence. We believe the owner of the banned account, and by extension the original poster of this thread to be BuyCoinFast, who we've banned along with his Australian trading alt CryptodileDundee, among other alts, in May of 2021, and we believe that we are able to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.

Correcting some of the inaccuracies in the OP:

    1. His alt was banned with ~20.5 XMR, not 35 XMR. The figure is inflated by ~75%. 20.5 XMR = approx. 5000 USD;

    2. There were no 10 XMR deposits to that account before the account was banned. The last deposit made to that account was around 2 days before it got banned;

    3. The screenshot of the Telegram conversation with us omitted the message where we said that all further communications should be directed to our email. We require this because Telegram chats aren't as easily publicly verifiable as emails are, and with BuyCoinFast there's always a high risk that he'll delete the messages, as he did with all the message history between himself and our staff. We haven't received any emails from him.



The evidence (TLDR at the bottom):

1. Both accounts engaged in third-party payments in a similarly diverse geographical distribution.

BuyCoinFast's trading style constantly employed different payment methods and countries. If you take a look at his and Audy's offers, you'll see that they are quite diverse, both in terms of payment method and in terms of geography. This is because BuyCoinFast doesn't actually accept or send the payments himself, he uses third parties and himself acts as a middleman between them (brokering). See how both of their offers are rather diverse:


And here's some evidence of Audy engaging in third party payments, since the payment details he provides differ from trade to trade:



In some cases you're even going to be able to catch a direct match between the location advertised by BuyCoinFast and that by Audy, take, for example these two offers:

They're basically the same offer in the exact same place. What are the chances that two random unrelated people would have a cash-in-hands offer in such a specific location?



But it goes further than that:

2. Identical texts between the ad offers posted by Audy and those posted by BuyCoinFast, despite "Audy" claiming not to know who BuyCoinFast is.

There are multiple examples of similar/identical texts between Audy's and BuyCoinFast's offers. We invite the readers to compare the offer texts by themselves. As an example, let's take a look at



We have text blocks which are identical. You might explain this as Audy simply copying the trade terms from one of BuyCoinFast's ads, but BuyCoinFast's account has been banned since May of 2021, which means that their ads are not visible in public search results. The only way you'd be able to see the text of the offer is if you directly went to BuyCoinFast's user page and/or found a direct link to that ad. The cash by mail ad posted by Audy was posted in November, way after BuyCoinFast and his old alts were banned. Remember, "Audy" claims to not even know who BuyCoinFast is:



And this is despite the fact that "Audy"'s telegram account, https://t.me/SpikeMilligan, being a member of the BuyCoinFast-run Telegram group https://t.me/MoneroUK and even having messaged BuyCoinFast in that group (we consider it to be a sock puppet):




3. BuyCoinFast speaks Russian, "Audy" seems not to understand Russian in Telegram, while at the same time forgetting to change his keyboard layout from Russian to English in the trade chat of one of his trades and speaking native Russian in other trades:



It's actually not just limited to a slip, there's whole conversations where he starts to employ Russian. The kind of Russian that can't be autotranslated, with slang and misspelled curse words:



All of this is already plenty of evidence, but we can go even further:

4. BuyCoinFast and his alts including CryptodileDundee all withdrew coins way back in May of 2021 to the exact same address as Audy is withdrawing to in November of 2021:





Withdrawing coins to the same address from different accounts in vastly different dates is already enough proof. But we can go even further:

5. CryptodileDundee and Audy both triggered our firewall, Imperva, to log security events when they were logging in, and the Imperva security event logs show that both accounts logged in from the same IP address within a day of each other:

For our DDoS protection and general WAF (Web Application Firewall) needs we use Imperva, because they're the best in the business. Imperva doesn't store access logs of normal activity, but whenever their firewall detects patterns that it deems suspicious it will think that a certain client accessing the site may be a bot and issues additional challenges. Sometimes it's cookie challenges, sometimes it's JS challenges, sometimes it's a CAPTCHA challenge, sometimes they just block the request outright.

For whatever reason, BuyCoinFast's activity was deemed suspicious by Imperva (he is known for using weird combinations of browsers, VPNs, devices, and OS's, because he would contact our support staff to help him with some website bugs that appeared due to the edge cases caused by his weird setup). So Imperva logged two security events:



We were able to associate the Oct 5th security event with BuyCoinFast in the first place because the entry page is shown to contain the trade ID of a dispute that's still open in which BuyCoinFast is the buyer (as his alt CryptodileDundee, which is suspended from trading as opposed to banned completely, because we need to let him login to answer in the dispute that's still open with him). From there, we took the IP associated with that security event and searched for other security events with that IP. Fortunately, we came across the second login, on Oct 6th.

At the bottom of each of these images, we can see the data for the POST requests that were used to login. The response code was 200 (OK), meaning the logins were successful. These requests contain the username, password, and some other stuff that we use to process logins.

When Imperva logs security events with sensitive data, such as during logins, they use a salted hash to mask the data. It's not possible to unmask the data, because hashes are generated by a one-way function. This is why it says:
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username=TSshzN7eYiVe/Cx3lD2RQgIJb6LHhUgoBOO32E54Az0=
However, if you know ahead of time what you're looking for, you can test whether a certain username does translate into a certain hash. In this case, we know exactly what we're looking for: CryptodileDundee and Audy.

The hashing algorithm that Imperva uses is SHA256. The salt that is used in the hashing process is "t6RwOaRilCUlSqZeXxYH1H8_CrCAi6uA", it is appended after the plaintext to be hashed. Finally, the 256-bit hex output of the hash function is converted to Base64.

So, for testing whether the masked username in the Oct 5th security event is actually CryptodileDundee, we do:
1. CryptodileDundee + SALT = CryptodileDundeet6RwOaRilCUlSqZeXxYH1H8_CrCAi6uA
2. SHA256(CryptodileDundeet6RwOaRilCUlSqZeXxYH1H8_CrCAi6uA) = 4d2b21ccdede62255efc2c77943d914202096fa2c785482804e3b7d84e78033d
3. Base64(4d2b21ccdede62255efc2c77943d914202096fa2c785482804e3b7d84e78033d) = TSshzN7eYiVe/Cx3lD2RQgIJb6LHhUgoBOO32E54Az0=
4. TSshzN7eYiVe/Cx3lD2RQgIJb6LHhUgoBOO32E54Az0= is equal to TSshzN7eYiVe/Cx3lD2RQgIJb6LHhUgoBOO32E54Az0=, therefore
5. username=CryptodileDundee

Same process for testing audy (he used lowercase to login, our login is case-insensitive) against the masked username value in the Oct 6th security event:
1. audy + SALT = audyt6RwOaRilCUlSqZeXxYH1H8_CrCAi6uA
2. SHA256(audyt6RwOaRilCUlSqZeXxYH1H8_CrCAi6uA) = 2f8a6a315eb831c369bbd57ac4bb1f13df325bc02741730bae9a8624c459f227
3. Base64(2f8a6a315eb831c369bbd57ac4bb1f13df325bc02741730bae9a8624c459f227) = L4pqMV64McNpu9V6xLsfE98yW8AnQXMLrpqGJMRZ8ic=
4. L4pqMV64McNpu9V6xLsfE98yW8AnQXMLrpqGJMRZ8ic= is equal to L4pqMV64McNpu9V6xLsfE98yW8AnQXMLrpqGJMRZ8ic=, therefore
5. username=audy

We've proven, with the help of our firewall provider's security event logs and a bit of math, that both CryptodileDundee and audy logged in from the same IP within a day of each other.

We rest our case.

...or do we?

BONUS EVIDENCE: BuyCoinFast self-incriminated by forgetting to wipe EXIF data from the screenshot that he uploaded in the original post of this very thread.

Notice that we've highlighted the user-agent in the Oct 5th Imperva security log:
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User Agent :Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Android 10; VOG-L09 Build/HUAWEIVOG-L09) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Chrome/83.0.4103.106 Mobile Safari/537.36

Compare that to the EXIF data that's visible at the bottom of the page of his uploaded screenshot:


We have an exact match. The screenshot uploaded by the original poster in this thread was made from the same device as the one BuyCoinFast used to login to his alt CryptodileDundee on our platform on October 5th.

We rest our case.



TLDR:
1. Both accounts engaged in third-party payments in a similarly diverse geographical distribution;
2. Identical texts between the ad offers posted by Audy and those posted by BuyCoinFast, despite "Audy" claiming not to know who BuyCoinFast is;
3. BuyCoinFast speaks Russian, "Audy" seems not to understand Russian in Telegram, while at the same time forgetting to change his keyboard layout from Russian to English in the trade chat of one of his trades and speaking native Russian in other trades;
4. BuyCoinFast and his alts including CryptodileDundee all withdrew coins way back in May of 2021 to the exact same address as Audy is withdrawing to in November of 2021;
5. CryptodileDundee and Audy both triggered our firewall, Imperva, to log security events when they were logging in, and the Imperva security event logs show that both accounts logged in from the same IP address within a day of each other;
6. BONUS EVIDENCE: BuyCoinFast self-incriminated by forgetting to wipe EXIF data from the screenshot that he uploaded in the original post of this very thread.



We'll be petitioning the mods and admins of this board to remove this thread and ban OP's account.

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Last edit: July 19, 2023, 08:38:08 PM by logfiles
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Yup, that's us. We logged in today to respond to this thread.

It's nice to know that you logged in today to respond to this particular issue. Most scammers or poor service providers don't bother. I like looking at both sides of the story before getting to decide who to trust or who not to trust.

I have recommended localmonero to some people in the past, especially based on how highly https://kycnot.me recommends you.

In fact, they even say that you never request for any KYC


We shall understand all this after this case is resolved.

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Last edit: November 25, 2021, 01:09:53 PM by ScammedbyLocalMonero
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Well well well see this https://www.similarweb.com/website/localmonero.co/

Looks like business is not good for LocalMonero.co scam

Found this interesting staff
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/a1sklv/why_you_should_absolutely_not_use_localmoneroco/


here is people complaining about fake offers https://t.me/LocalMonero/14965

here is https://github.com/bitcoin-dot-org/Bitcoin.org/issues/3203 they wanted to get listed with bitcoin.org but they didnt accept them, new it was scam, lol
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November 25, 2021, 06:26:29 PM
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Agoradesk.com/LocalMonero.co scammed me for 9500 usd by blocking my account right after I deposited another 10 xmr

This is my account https://agoradesk.com/user/audy

You can see they add a message=reason  inventing an excuse to steal my money, linking me to other profile who, I found out later, Alex admin of Localmonero had an argument with.

As I see now LocalMonero admin decided to co er his loose on my account. If they do it over 9500 usd than this means they have no trading volume and profit and ready to take your money just like that. They will make it look like it is your fault or whatever.
According to the comment on your profile as well as the chat with you I am not agree with you that they scammed you hence I think totally opposite. I think you are the scammer because you denied to verify your identity. You have to verify identity if the site is centralized and if they they you are doing any fraud. They found alternative account of you so they have right to verify the id is of you or someone else or you doing this type of activity to make fraud.
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November 25, 2021, 10:54:14 PM
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According to the comment on your profile as well as the chat with you I am not agree with you that they scammed you hence I think totally opposite. I think you are the scammer because you denied to verify your identity. You have to verify identity if the site is centralized and if they they you are doing any fraud. They found alternative account of you so they have right to verify the id is of you or someone else or you doing this type of activity to make fraud.

1. Alex is a scam admin of LocalMonero have 2-3 video interviews i watched before start using it and in all that videos they claimed no KYC ever, also He said even if legislation will force them they will find another country to base.

watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--JAgewdm_Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuCdBIZcHiE

This asshole scumbag Localmonero admin Alex waved no KYC flag all over youtube

So don't give me that bullshit with verification and shittttt. Privacy is not a crime
I don't have to verify anything to anyone, my friend

I didn't scam anyone, i did 18 trades and got block after depositing more Monero, typical scam strategy, they wait till victime deposit more money and block him.
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November 26, 2021, 09:51:50 AM
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We never act without thoroughly investigating something and gathering evidence. Reserving this spot to post the evidence. We'll be done compiling it soon.
Soon when exactly? Two days passed and we don't have any investigation report from you LocalMonero.

I think you are the scammer because you denied to verify your identity. You have to verify identity if the site is centralized and if they they you are doing any fraud.
LocalMonero is not asking for any KYC checks and that is clearly stated in their terms, so if they suspect on member audy they should provide some evidence first.
However, I am not saying that I trust OP, and it's possible that LocalMonero identified him using same fiat bank accounts or paypal like previous member that was banned.
I never used LocalMonero website so I can't speak more about their service.

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November 26, 2021, 12:08:06 PM
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....but their site is poorly programmed

Yes, their website looks like from year 1998 movie about hackers doing shit with staff.

could you provide a bit more information on as you say as "poorly programmed"?

i am not programmer have and i have no idea where to look

Any signs of it, how did you conclude it that LocalMonero scam is "poorly programmed"?
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November 27, 2021, 02:26:30 AM
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Yup, that's us. We logged in today to respond to this thread.

It's nice to know that you logged in today to respond to this particular issue. Most scammers or poor service providers don't bother. I like looking at both sides of the story before getting to decide who to trust or who not to trust.

I have recommended localmonero to some people in the past, especially based on how highly https://kycnot.me recommends you.

In fact, they even say that you never request for any KYC

We appreciate your reservation of judgement until the facts are in. We've updated the post, the evidence has been presented.

Thanks for recommending us! We do ask for KYC in very rare cases where a trader reports to us with evidence that a stolen bank account is being used or something of the lot.

We never act without thoroughly investigating something and gathering evidence. Reserving this spot to post the evidence. We'll be done compiling it soon.
Soon when exactly? Two days passed and we don't have any investigation report from you LocalMonero.

It's out! Check the edited post.

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This is very detailed and good written report, all evidence against him is very convincing and clear, so I opposed flags he created against you and I am warning everyone not to trust OP.
Thank you for spending your time and showing all connections with his accounts.
Watch out for his new accounts coming soon and think about improving security on your website Wink

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pretty detailed evidence, I must say. kudos to you for making an effort and the time to compile it and show it to us. looking at it, it is clear that the three accounts( BuyCoinFast, CryptodileDundee, Audy) are connected. Based on the evidence provided by Localmonero I'll oppose the flag created by the OP. I wonder what's OP's counterargument.

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November 27, 2021, 06:26:48 PM
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O my first post I was dis agree with the op before creating the evidece of you. Though you have created post before me but you have not provided details on that time, anyway your provided information is enough good to say who is the scammer or not.

because Telegram chats aren't as easily publicly verifiable as emails are, and with BuyCoinFast there's always a high risk that he'll delete the messages, as he did with all the message history between himself and our staff. We haven't received any emails from him.
It is a very good thing that you have not done your communication over the telegram if you did that then you may loss your time as well as reputation.
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November 27, 2021, 11:27:13 PM
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We appreciate your reservation of judgement until the facts are in. We've updated the post, the evidence has been presented.

Thanks for recommending us! We do ask for KYC in very rare cases where a trader reports to us with evidence that a stolen bank account is being used or something of the lot.
Thanks for taking time to provide all the necessary information. The evidence you provide against OP is compelling and for that matter, I have left negative feedback on his profile and supported the trust flag, so it's now active. In case a guest user or newbie comes across this post, they will see a banner with a warning about the starter of the topic.

Unfortunately the mods and admins don't moderate any scam related issues, so they won't ban or delete the thread by the banner with the warning and the negative feedback will help.

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We appreciate your reservation of judgement until the facts are in. We've updated the post, the evidence has been presented.

Thanks for recommending us! We do ask for KYC in very rare cases where a trader reports to us with evidence that a stolen bank account is being used or something of the lot.
Thanks for taking time to provide all the necessary information. The evidence you provide against OP is compelling and for that matter, I have left negative feedback on his profile and supported the trust flag, so it's now active. In case a guest user or newbie comes across this post, they will see a banner with a warning about the starter of the topic.

Unfortunately the mods and admins don't moderate any scam related issues, so they won't ban or delete the thread by the banner with the warning and the negative feedback will help.

Darling, thanks for what? for stealing my money?HuhHuhHuhHuhHuh?

This is outrageous

this is FACK, they took my money, not theirs or someone else's

my fucking money!!!!!!!!!!!!!

35 XMR = 9500 was stolen by LocalMonero.co/AgoraDesk.com scam admin Named Alex

Please go to localmonero aka agoradesk scam topic


Agoradesk.com/LocalMonero.co is Ukrainian based Scam exchanger!!!


Nobody is interested in this shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ip - really? have you heard of VPN or proxy?HuhHuh?? millions of people use one ip

EXIF data - really? it is empty, nothing in it darling, what the hell are you talking about


Give me my fucking money back, You Ukrainian Scam!!!!!!!!!!!!

Look at their terms in Registration and user account section

here is what they wrote: .....We may close (upon which the account's Monero balance will be forfeited)

what the hell is that supposed to mean?

forfeited?HuhHuh?? Really, are you serious right now?

If you think that any service can confiscate Peoples money, than it is ok to piss on on them as well

Give me my fucking money back, you scam!!!!!!!!!

LocalMonero scam Admin lies

i have send more XMR at the day when u blocked me

if not show me my account!!!!!!!!!!!! u blocked it so i could not take a screenshots u scam!!!!!!
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The evidence presented against you is superb, and yet you continue to accuse them. You are not providing any substantial counterargument, except using profane language.
You cherry-picked the VPN and EXIF data issues, how about the other four?

I don't think it can be a coincidence.

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The evidence presented against you is superb, and yet you continue to accuse them. You are not providing any substantial counterargument, except using profane language.
You cherry-picked the VPN and EXIF data issues, how about the other four?

I don't think it can be a coincidence.


What on earth are you on about?

I really don't care, i am not a criminal and i didn't scam anyone!!!!!!!

the fact is that they stole form me by blocking my account and blocking my Coins i deposited

How about that Dear? LocalMonero Scame block my money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and nobody cares under what reason!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How would you feel if your money was stollen under any invented reason and nobody cares

The have no right to steal from me or from someone else!!!!!!!

they Stole from me!!!!!!!!!

Get my fucking money back and block what ever you want then i will be long gone from LocalMonero Scam Admin

Until i haven't got my money back, here is the Scam Label For Scammers from LocalMonero!!!!!!!

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Please go to localmonero aka agoradesk scam topic


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December 06, 2021, 01:07:50 PM
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You violated their ToS. They provided evidence that you did it.
However, even with that, from their ToS (bolding mine):

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We may close (upon which the account's Monero balance will be forfeited), suspend, or limit your access to your account or to other Services we offer, and/or limit access to your Monero balance for up to 180 days (or longer if pursuant to a court order or other legal process) if you violate these Terms of Service or any other agreement you enter into with LocalMonero, or as otherwise specified in these Terms of Service or other agreement you have entered into with LocalMonero.

You agreed when you signed up that they could take your XMR if you broke any rule OR any agreement.
So, all you are doing now is just yelling that someone did something they said they were going to do, and you agreed to.

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You violated their ToS. They provided evidence that you did it.
However, even with that, from their ToS (bolding mine):

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We may close (upon which the account's Monero balance will be forfeited), suspend, or limit your access to your account or to other Services we offer, and/or limit access to your Monero balance for up to 180 days (or longer if pursuant to a court order or other legal process) if you violate these Terms of Service or any other agreement you enter into with LocalMonero, or as otherwise specified in these Terms of Service or other agreement you have entered into with LocalMonero.

You agreed when you signed up that they could take your XMR if you broke any rule OR any agreement.
So, all you are doing now is just yelling that someone did something they said they were going to do, and you agreed to.

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35 XMR = 9500 was stolen by LocalMonero.co/AgoraDesk.com scam admin Named Alex

Please go to localmonero aka agoradesk scam topic


Agoradesk.com/LocalMonero.co is Ukrainian based Scam exchanger!!!

seriously?HuhHuh

DO you think that they can just ban account with 20-35 XMR coins on it?

Nobody really cares what what shit ip or exif or what ever

i Didn't scam anyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

is that normal? They have to pay the money back then block my accounts as many times as they want

Total scam!!!!!!!!!!!!

give my fucking money back u scam assholes



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The evidence presented against you is superb, and yet you continue to accuse them. You are not providing any substantial counterargument, except using profane language.
You cherry-picked the VPN and EXIF data issues, how about the other four?

I don't think it can be a coincidence.


darling

have you heard of VPN or proxy when millions or people use one ip?

have u heard of Dolphin Browser where u can change your agent or set one by default u can use iphone but browser shows that you have a Samsung and etc?

Do you want to tell me that Privacy is not a crime?

Are you saying that i am faking all of this and LocalMonero aka Agoradesk didn't steal from me?Huh

LocalMonero is a scam i will be posting it all over the net untill they give my fucking money back

LocalMonero aka Agoradesk a bunch of scumbags

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DO you think that they can just ban account with 20-35 XMR coins on it?

Yes, it's in their ToS that you agreed to. Full stop. End of discussion. You agreed to terms that are not good for you. Deal with it and learn to read things before you agree to them.
Does not matter if you are a scammer or not, I think you are but that is not important for this discussion.

They said they could keep your money and they are keeping your money, you can come here and cry about it, but none of us really care.
You look like a scammer from all the info they provided, but that is not the point. They can keep your money because they is what you agreed to. The fact that you are a scammer just makes it look better for them. IF they said we confiscated the XMR because the ToS said we could they would still be within their rights.

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......Yes, it's in their ToS that you agreed to.......
what you call their ToS is normal people call SCAM!!!!!!!! and there is no way my money been appropriated by some LocalMOnero scumbag?
Why are you defending Agoradesk.com/LocalMonero.co is Ukrainian based Scam exchanger???
Do you get paid from them?

They said they could keep your money and they are keeping your money, you can come here and cry about it, but none of us really care.
Well, then you will be the next one who they steal from, if none of you care than LocalMonero scumbag will be stealing from others
You do understand that what they did is Agoradesk.com/LocalMonero.co SCAM and no matter what shit TOS they have?
What i want is to spread all over the net about https://t.me/LocalMonero scumbag named Alex admin a fucking lier

You look like a scammer from all the info they provided, but that is not the point.

You calling Me a scammer? Did they provide anything about me stealing from anybody, ask LocalMonero scammer admin @Alex_LocalMonero_AgoraDesk to show any of the trades i took money from someone??
they have nothing because i didn't steal from anybody, i was trading the way i trade and took care of my clients.
If u don't like it ban me from trading and give me my money back!!!!!!!!!

They can keep your money because they is what you agreed to.
NO darling, they took my money and blocked my account because LocalMonero.co is a scam!!!!!!!!
simple is that

IF they said we confiscated the XMR because the ToS said we could they would still be within their rights.
This is a complete nonsense  u r saying, You are definitely getting paid to promote Agoradesk.com/LocalMonero.co SCAM
if
let say you send to https://chipmixer.com (the service you currently promoting) 1 btc and they say, sorry this is ours now, bye.
Then According to your word chipmixer.com will be right to steal from you just because they say so, is that what you say?

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35 XMR = 9500 was stolen by LocalMonero.co/AgoraDesk.com scam admin Named Alex

Please go to localmonero aka agoradesk scam topic


Agoradesk.com/LocalMonero.co is Ukrainian based Scam exchanger!!!
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have you heard of VPN or proxy when millions or people use one ip?

have u heard of Dolphin Browser where u can change your agent or set one by default u can use iphone but browser shows that you have a Samsung and etc?
Lol, like it's my first time on the internet  Cheesy


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Do you want to tell me that Privacy is not a crime?
Come again?
You seem to be mixing up the point you want to put across. I advice to stop typing when you are so angry. First cool down.

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Are you saying that i am faking all of this and LocalMonero aka Agoradesk didn't steal from me?Huh
I don't need to add anything. Everything pinning you is on the evidence post made by LocalMonero

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Look i just found more evidence that LocalMonero is a scam https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375806.msg58673485#msg58673485

https://vimeo.com/655258737 - Admin Alex owns this accounts XmAus2 = XMRTraderAU to scam
https://vimeo.com/655259443 - Video when they blocked other persons account

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35 XMR = 9500 was stolen by LocalMonero.co/AgoraDesk.com scam admin Named Alex

Please go to localmonero aka agoradesk scam topic


Agoradesk.com/LocalMonero.co is Ukrainian based Scam exchanger!!!
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Look i just found more evidence that LocalMonero is a scam https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375806.msg58673485#msg58673485

https://vimeo.com/655258737 - Admin Alex owns this accounts XmAus2 = XMRTraderAU to scam
https://vimeo.com/655259443 - Video when they blocked other persons account


In the 1st video he just shows that XMRTraderAU used to have the username XmrAus2. The username change was requested by the seller months ago, and it can be seen in the trade chat in the same video that in September he was already referred to as XMRTraderAU.
Username changes on our platform are standard procedure, anyone can request it. Here's a couple of examples:
https://archive.ph/lxkuO
https://archive.vn/ZLU3S

The second video demonstrates BuyCoinFast's account being banned, correct.

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A few forum posts doesn't address the fact that the website looks very similar to bitwallet.cc which was an exit scam https://web.archive.org/web/20160503034444/https://bitwallet.cc/

Both Bitwallet.cc and Localmonero.co are based outside the US, have no verifiable info and accounts created just to promote them on Cryptoforums

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LocalMonero.co/AgoraDesk.com is a proven SCAM

Agoradesk.com/LocalMonero.co is Ukrainian based Scam exchanger!!! they stole 9500 usd from me
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Hello,

Thought I'd give my input concerning this affair. I was one of several agoradesk customers scammed by BuyCoinsFast earlier this year,
I was far too trusting of him and paid the price, I did not expect to recover any of my funds. I am absolutely astounded by the forensic effort
undertaken in fixing this incident and the udeniable evidence linking these accounts.
Last week I received in full the return of my funds and can only commend agoradesk, Alex and his team for their effort.

Regards
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Last edit: January 11, 2022, 11:28:27 PM by logfiles
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Hello,

Thought I'd give my input concerning this affair. I was one of several agoradesk customers scammed by BuyCoinsFast earlier this year,
I was far too trusting of him and paid the price, I did not expect to recover any of my funds. I am absolutely astounded by the forensic effort
undertaken in fixing this incident and the udeniable evidence linking these accounts.
Last week I received in full the return of my funds and can only commend agoradesk, Alex and his team for their effort.

Regards
You should stop creating multiple accounts and breaching terms and conditions of a service. They have a right to withhold your funds if they say so and there's nothing you can do about it

You were in the wrong but still Localmonero acted  good faith.

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You should stop creating multiple accounts and breaching terms and conditions of a service. They have a right to withhold your funds if they say so and there's nothing you can do about it

You were in the wrong but still Localmonero acted  good faith.
the one you quoted is not the OP, check the name again. it looks like ScammedbyBuyCoinFast(BuyCoinFast is one of OP's accounts on LocalMoner.co) is praising LocalMonero.co for the effort they made getting his fund back. I am not sure how true the story though.

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You should stop creating multiple accounts and breaching terms and conditions of a service. They have a right to withhold your funds if they say so and there's nothing you can do about it

You were in the wrong but still Localmonero acted  good faith.
the one you quoted is not the OP, check the name again. it looks like ScammedbyBuyCoinFast(BuyCoinFast is one of OP's accounts on LocalMoner.co) is praising LocalMonero.co for the effort they made getting his fund back. I am not sure how true the story though.

Cut the bullshit, mate

https://agoradesk.com/user/XMRTraderAU their scam account is gone now!!!!!!!!!

this is real proof that Alex from LocalMonero and XMRTraderAU are the same person who fucked me up and his name is Alex - LocalMonero Admin

I have videocaptured everything right at the moment when they banned my account with 13500 USD balance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Efwq18kY3ZM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRyhCDExvQA

LocalMonero fucked me for 27000 USD
13500 USD i paid in cash to the seller who is account is gone, LocalMonero deleted their own account now https://agoradesk.com/user/XMRTraderAU

Hello,

Thought I'd give my input concerning this affair. I was one of several agoradesk customers scammed by BuyCoinsFast earlier this year,
I was far too trusting of him and paid the price, I did not expect to recover any of my funds. I am absolutely astounded by the forensic effort
undertaken in fixing this incident and the udeniable evidence linking these accounts.
Last week I received in full the return of my funds and can only commend agoradesk, Alex and his team for their effort.

Regards
You should stop creating multiple accounts and breaching terms and conditions of a service. They have a right to withhold your funds if they say so and there's nothing you can do about it

You were in the wrong but still Localmonero acted  good faith.

Someone like you who covers LocalMonero scammers by keep parroting the same shit over and over again should go and fuck yourself!!!

You can stick yours and theirs terms up your ass but this joy is not gonna cover what they stole from me

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Agoradesk.com/LocalMonero.co is Ukrainian based Scam exchanger!!! they stole 27000 usd from me
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the one you quoted is not the OP, check the name again. it looks like ScammedbyBuyCoinFast(BuyCoinFast is one of OP's accounts on LocalMoner.co) is praising LocalMonero.co for the effort they made getting his fund back. I am not sure how true the story though.
Thanks for the heads-up. I have removed the feedback. I got the usernames mixed up.



Cut the bullshit, mate
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Someone like you who covers LocalMonero scammers by keep parroting the same shit over and over again should go and fuck yourself!!!
Sorry, I can't hear you from this side. Please cry harder… and when you are done and ready for a civilized discussion. Call me up.

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January 25, 2022, 01:51:48 PM
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Still NO money returned

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LocalMonero.co/AgoraDesk.com is a proven SCAM

Agoradesk.com/LocalMonero.co is Ukrainian based Scam exchanger!!! they stole 27000 usd from me
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