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November 26, 2021, 12:55:51 AM
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And where would this online court be operating from? Who are the judges answerable to? Who will pay them? Who will select them? From which particular law does its existence spring forth?

This is a complicated matter because legal jurisdictions are limited. You cannot just create an all encompassing court which has the power to try all cases of gambling all over the world. Furthermore, gambling laws differ from one country to another. And if you set this kind of court, it will definitely need a huge manpower given that hundreds and hundreds of millions of gamblers are scattered all over the world.

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November 26, 2021, 02:38:52 AM
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And where would this online court be operating from? Who are the judges answerable to? Who will pay them? Who will select them? From which particular law does its existence spring forth?
None of these set of question are answerable i guess  Grin , and if ever there is the main question is How reliable and worth trusting the court?

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This is a complicated matter because legal jurisdictions are limited. You cannot just create an all encompassing court which has the power to try all cases of gambling all over the world. Furthermore, gambling laws differ from one country to another. And if you set this kind of court, it will definitely need a huge manpower given that hundreds and hundreds of millions of gamblers are scattered all over the world.
and yesr Online gambling site is really hard to watch and managed .
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November 26, 2021, 04:24:43 AM
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All cases of fights, accusations, mutual wars return to yourself and it is recommended to choose an online gambling site that has a good reputation and is responsible both from within and from outside, crux of the matter.

That's true it saves you time money if you play in a gambling site with a good reputation, there are always complaints about, even on a reputable gambling site, it's important that they address it in a manner that satisfies the gambling community, satisfies means they counter all accusations with proofs and do not just post
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players breaking the rules
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The community is fair enough to see who's proofs are worth supporting.


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November 26, 2021, 04:56:39 AM
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players breaking the rules
, it's all about transparency.

The community is fair enough to see who's proofs are worth supporting.
but most of the time this RULE Breaking is what used by scam sites to take money from their players.

it is easy for them to accused players of cheating because they can hide in their Privacy rights to not disclose any information or proofs towards the said gambler.

so in the end their own rules helps them victimized players.

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November 26, 2021, 05:59:11 AM
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players breaking the rules
, it's all about transparency.

The community is fair enough to see who's proofs are worth supporting.
but most of the time this RULE Breaking is what used by scam sites to take money from their players.

it is easy for them to accused players of cheating because they can hide in their Privacy rights to not disclose any information or proofs towards the said gambler.

so in the end their own rules helps them victimized players.
That is the point gambling sites hide under these rules to take players' money most especially when a big amount is won. But if there is an accredited online Court it will help check out this abnormality when proven the necessary punishment be given to them.

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November 26, 2021, 06:27:41 AM
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Cases like that have been happening for years, especially on online gambling sites, the war between players and gambling sites is unstoppable, everyone is selfish with each other, everyone wants to win, no one wants to lose, the gambling side wants to defend themselves and the players also defend themselves, that's gambling, no one wins and no one loses, why do people still want to play (lust) that's human.

There are certain factors that make them clash between players and online gambling sites.
1. Losing players don't want to accept defeat, war begins.
2. The gambling site, doesn't want to pay when the player wins to the highest level, self-defense occurs.

However, not all online gambling sites are rotten-hearted and not bad-hearted gamblers, there are gambling sites that honestly pay all wins and there are players who are aware that I am losing and have to accept that it is gambling.

All cases of fights, accusations, mutual wars return to yourself and it is recommended to choose an online gambling site that has a good reputation and is responsible both from within and from outside, crux of the matter.
Like you have written, some losing players would never want to admit defeat which is always the contrary of what the Court or the hearers would expect. It is much difficult for online court to exist cause gambling platforms would always accuse the players of violation of their terms and conditions, which is a way to suspend the the case. There are some many factors that will prohibit the exist of online court making it less active.

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November 26, 2021, 06:33:50 AM
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There have been so many accusations and counter-accusations on the subject matter of fraud so many players have come out with evidence of scams against some sites while the operator of those sites come up with counter-accusations that players violated their T&C.
I think it will be proper if an online accredited court is set up to judge such cases, rather than leaving them uncensored.
This is certainly good for all of us , but the problem is how would this be implemented and who will handle the course?

The point @Darker25 mentioned are very important in this part.

How can this be implemented if there  are so many grounds to consider.

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players breaking the rules
, it's all about transparency.

The community is fair enough to see who's proofs are worth supporting.
but most of the time this RULE Breaking is what used by scam sites to take money from their players.

it is easy for them to accused players of cheating because they can hide in their Privacy rights to not disclose any information or proofs towards the said gambler.

so in the end their own rules helps them victimized players.
That is the point gambling sites hide under these rules to take players' money most especially when a big amount is won. But if there is an accredited online Court it will help check out this abnormality when proven the necessary punishment be given to them.
Yes , this is how similar most of the gambling site issues now.

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November 26, 2021, 07:52:41 AM
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And where would this online court be operating from? Who are the judges answerable to? Who will pay them? Who will select them? From which particular law does its existence spring forth?

This is a complicated matter because legal jurisdictions are limited. You cannot just create an all encompassing court which has the power to try all cases of gambling all over the world. Furthermore, gambling laws differ from one country to another. And if you set this kind of court, it will definitely need a huge manpower given that hundreds and hundreds of millions of gamblers are scattered all over the world.

I agree I have no idea how this going to be set up and what's governing body will set it up, we have different license issuers and every country has different rules and laws regarding gambling, and who will audit the auditor, it's much easier if it's an offline casino but different if it's an online one, I prefer and believe that the community of players or gamblers be the judge based on the accuracy of the proofs and pieces of evidence, gambling is a game of trust, casinos can easily lose their business if they lose gambler's trust.

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November 26, 2021, 07:57:37 AM
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And where would this online court be operating from? Who are the judges answerable to? Who will pay them? Who will select them? From which particular law does its existence spring forth?

This is a complicated matter because legal jurisdictions are limited. You cannot just create an all encompassing court which has the power to try all cases of gambling all over the world. Furthermore, gambling laws differ from one country to another. And if you set this kind of court, it will definitely need a huge manpower given that hundreds and hundreds of millions of gamblers are scattered all over the world.

Yeah... Impossible to put it into practice. You are not going to get all countries to agree and even if you do, there will always be sites on which you will not be able to act, if they act in the DW for example. The OP's thinking is very nice in theory but impossible to implement in practice.

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November 26, 2021, 10:10:49 AM
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And where would this online court be operating from? Who are the judges answerable to? Who will pay them? Who will select them? From which particular law does its existence spring forth?

This is a complicated matter because legal jurisdictions are limited. You cannot just create an all encompassing court which has the power to try all cases of gambling all over the world. Furthermore, gambling laws differ from one country to another. And if you set this kind of court, it will definitely need a huge manpower given that hundreds and hundreds of millions of gamblers are scattered all over the world.
It is indeed that OP has a great views on what can be done in gambling to keep safe players interests against Gambling sites abused .

But also it is really hard to implement such as like the points  you mentioned it is even harder to ask who will pay them for their services because if they will do this in good faith then there must be under the table will happen soon.

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November 26, 2021, 03:22:40 PM
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players breaking the rules
, it's all about transparency.

The community is fair enough to see who's proofs are worth supporting.
but most of the time this RULE Breaking is what used by scam sites to take money from their players.

it is easy for them to accused players of cheating because they can hide in their Privacy rights to not disclose any information or proofs towards the said gambler.

so in the end their own rules helps them victimized players.
That is the point gambling sites hide under these rules to take players' money most especially when a big amount is won. But if there is an accredited online Court it will help check out this abnormality when proven the necessary punishment be given to them.
It is hard to have an online court as players and the casino owner will not want to show their identity and stay behind the wall. Besides that, how will the punishment be given to those who are guilty?

It needs a local regulator to investigate the proof and visit the casino owner and the player to ask about the scam or cheating. I think that will be difficult since the player is not lived in the same country or jurisdiction as the casino.

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November 26, 2021, 03:31:27 PM
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'Online gambling courts' arguably exist in regulated areas generally, where said companies have a license. Whether you call it a 'court' or not, there are rules and procedures that must be followed and if broken result in some sort of action.

To police the current crypto space with something like that is close to impossible, because we live in a multi state/cultural society and laws are different everywhere. And that would just be the start of the issues with this idea.

Within the current climate you always reach a kind of equilibrium where some sort of policing is done and that is in the way of reviews, reputation and forums. Anything further hasn't been done because it just wouldn't be worthwhile for anyone.

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November 26, 2021, 07:39:17 PM
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players breaking the rules
, it's all about transparency.

The community is fair enough to see who's proofs are worth supporting.
but most of the time this RULE Breaking is what used by scam sites to take money from their players.

it is easy for them to accused players of cheating because they can hide in their Privacy rights to not disclose any information or proofs towards the said gambler.

so in the end their own rules helps them victimized players.
That is the point gambling sites hide under these rules to take players' money most especially when a big amount is won. But if there is an accredited online Court it will help check out this abnormality when proven the necessary punishment be given to them.
It's impossible for an online global court to exist since we don't live in an one government world jurisdiction. However, you can still sue a gambling company by tracking in which country they are located and by picking a lawyer from that territory to work for you. It's an expensive, tiring and time consuming process though...
You can also request help and further guidelines on how to act regards this matter from local authorities responsible for the country where the casino is located in case you feel you are being scammed and want to take legal action against them.

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November 26, 2021, 07:52:12 PM
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And where would this online court be operating from? Who are the judges answerable to? Who will pay them? Who will select them? From which particular law does its existence spring forth?

This is a complicated matter because legal jurisdictions are limited. You cannot just create an all encompassing court which has the power to try all cases of gambling all over the world. Furthermore, gambling laws differ from one country to another. And if you set this kind of court, it will definitely need a huge manpower given that hundreds and hundreds of millions of gamblers are scattered all over the world.

Online casino gambling courts are also unlikely to be the solution. It would be very difficult and limited access to conduct physical investigations. In addition to limited legal jurisdiction, of course the listed rules that have been mutually agreed upon between the casino and gamblers are agreements that have been accepted by both parties from the start. especially the gamblers who are prepared for the risks they accept. No court would accept an offer like this just the case couldn't be proven if the casinos themselves had more courts they paid to get operations running under government protection.

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And this means that this court needs to be all-encompassing and has jurisdiction on all online gambling platforms and players no matter the nation they are registered in. I don't think this will work, though if a legitimate, unbiased online casino ranking site is present wherein reviews are reliable do exist, it may be one reference which players can use in order to choose which platform should they use. It may not be so much of a help on casinos, but them being able to mess with their players without any explanation is a power players don't have against them.

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November 26, 2021, 10:21:39 PM
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Btw, are you talking about your own signature project that is here always accused as a scam gambling site?
The accusations are not only based on one or two reviews, there are more than these numbers, they also have evidences that show whether they are scammed by the gambling platforms or not.
So far, there is  a scam accusation in this forum, and this also works enough to know whether the projects or sites are exactly scam or not.
And if there are Online Gambling Court, if there is any, will they really use the court when the costs may be so high and also within complicated court?
Well, just see from many reviews about the certain gambling platforms, and we can see whether it is reputable enough  or not to use or play in the platform.

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November 26, 2021, 10:25:54 PM
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And this means that this court needs to be all-encompassing and has jurisdiction on all online gambling platforms and players no matter the nation they are registered in. I don't think this will work, though if a legitimate, unbiased online casino ranking site is present wherein reviews are reliable do exist, it may be one reference which players can use in order to choose which platform should they use. It may not be so much of a help on casinos, but them being able to mess with their players without any explanation is a power players don't have against them.

that's why this kind of initiative is hard to exist as there are so many factors in play that are not possible to happen. with site reviews or rankings, it depends mostly on their experience and we know that each player can have varied experiences in one site.so as a player, what's left for you to do is assess those reviews how valid it is by trying also to play on the site, and see for yourself what's in store for you. use small funds to try their features though.

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November 26, 2021, 10:46:40 PM
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Btw, are you talking about your own signature project that is here always accused as a scam gambling site?
The accusations are not only based on one or two reviews, there are more than these numbers, they also have evidences that show whether they are scammed by the gambling platforms or not.

I have to say "Nice point Rengga Jati"! Smiley

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Sometimes (probably more often than we think) crypto gambling is a wild west... I guess most of us follow the rules of the site whatever they are, but there should be some rules for casinos as well! From that side I understand the point of "online gambling court", but I guess that's something impossible... at least for now! I think this "wild west" will last a bit longer!

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The bottom line, you are looking forward to decentralized gambling when you consider playing and putting money on crypto-gambling sites. Therefore, expect that you also need to deal with a decentralized environment wherein you won't see any authority to forward your complaint to the said crypto-gambling site.

To somehow minimize the risks, just play at those sites who already gained a good trust and reputation in the world of crypto-gambling. This online gambling court is far from happening.

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November 26, 2021, 11:05:57 PM
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There have been so many accusations and counter-accusations on the subject matter of fraud so many players have come out with evidence of scams against some sites while the operator of those sites come up with counter-accusations that players violated their T&C.
I think it will be proper if an online accredited court is set up to judge such cases, rather than leaving them uncensored.

Who will authorize the court? If there will be, they will be subject to the government's approval. It's not good if we allow the government to enter the crypto gambling premises as it will result in centralized gambling like what fiat casinos do have.

I think accusations like that only happen on a not popular site. Do you have an example of that site counter-accusations by the said website? What if the user really violated the Terms and Conditions?
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