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November 29, 2021, 11:40:04 AM
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New concern - With the discovery of new variants of Covid from the "Delta variant" to now "Omicron" which is another deadly variant forcing countries like Japan and Israel to now impose new travel restrictions, I'm beginning to wonder if this pandemic is ever going to end. As for the persons who have been vaccinated, are they completely free from the threat of Covid and whatever new variant that will emerge, or more vaccine jabs will be needed?
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November 29, 2021, 12:12:50 PM
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New concern - With the discovery of new variants of Covid from the "Delta variant" to now "Omicron" which is another deadly variant forcing countries like Japan and Israel to now impose new travel restrictions, I'm beginning to wonder if this pandemic is ever going to end. As for the persons who have been vaccinated, are they completely free from the threat of Covid and whatever new variant that will emerge, or more vaccine jabs will be needed?

12 people in Africa got a stuffy nose and sore throat.  Time to shut the world down again and tweak the designer genetics to transfect the herd with.  If there is anything more to it then nobody has yet found it and demonstrated anything.

Seems that the only special thing about 'omicron' is that it was around at an opportune time when TPTB wanted to shift to the next scripted phase of the plandemic.


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November 29, 2021, 02:58:30 PM
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Vaccines protects currently for infection effectively 2+ months and from getting seriously ill 5+ months, no longer, boosters are needed, and vaccines doesn't protect 100% sure. Anyway, they will give few months of quite good protection, and leave 2nd level protection longer. However, I think, unfortunately, covid is going to be with us quite a few years, and circulates eventually yearly like influenza versions.
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November 29, 2021, 03:18:14 PM
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12 people in Africa got a stuffy nose and sore throat.  

are you that ignorant

its been 21 months and you still have not even learned the most basic thing
symptoms of covid is not a stuffy nose

a stuffy nose is your IMMUNE RESPONSE noticing a pathogen at the entry way and trying to clear it out
covid does not trigger a stuffy nose. hense why its not like common cold/flu

will you please try learning about covid and stop learning about how to join conspiracy cults

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November 29, 2021, 05:01:57 PM
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12 people in Africa got a stuffy nose and sore throat.  

are you that ignorant

its been 21 months and you still have not even learned the most basic thing
symptoms of covid is not a stuffy nose

a stuffy nose is your IMMUNE RESPONSE noticing a pathogen at the entry way and trying to clear it out
covid does not trigger a stuffy nose. hense why its not like common cold/flu

will you please try learning about covid and stop learning about how to join conspiracy cults

Well then Franky1, super-healer and science man extraordinaire, you better get in touch with the CDC ASAP and correct them:

  https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/symptoms-testing/symptoms.html

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Symptoms of COVID-19
Updated Feb. 22, 2021
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Watch for Symptoms

People with COVID-19 have had a wide range of symptoms reported – ranging from mild symptoms to severe illness. Symptoms may appear 2-14 days after exposure to the virus. Anyone can have mild to severe symptoms. People with these symptoms may have COVID-19:

    Fever or chills
    Cough
    Shortness of breath or difficulty breathing
    Fatigue
    Muscle or body aches
    Headache
    New loss of taste or smell
    Sore throat
    Congestion or runny nose
    Nausea or vomiting
    Diarrhea

This list does not include all possible symptoms. CDC will continue to update this list as we learn more about COVID-19.
...

The cool thing is that a doctor can diagnose 'covid' with just a couple of these and no test, then his/her hospital can start raking in the big covid bucks.  At least whenever Bill Gates orders up a another 'wave' and they need to make their quota for dutiful regurgitation in the 'news.'


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November 29, 2021, 07:03:20 PM
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New concern - With the discovery of new variants of Covid from the "Delta variant" to now "Omicron" which is another deadly variant forcing countries like Japan and Israel to now impose new travel restrictions, I'm beginning to wonder if this pandemic is ever going to end. As for the persons who have been vaccinated, are they completely free from the threat of Covid and whatever new variant that will emerge, or more vaccine jabs will be needed?
Viruses evolve, like anything else. The more cases of Covid there are, the more new variants will emerge. Some may have mutations that mean the current generation of vaccines don't work quite so well. The main issue is that there are still large clusters of unvaccinated people, partly the anti-vaxxer crowd in developed nations, but more importantly in the global south, where vaccines are difficult to come by and vaccination levels very low. This is why there has been a push from some people in developed nations to share the vaccines more equitably with poorer nations. The developed nations have largely failed to do this, which means Covid continues to circulate at high levels in poorer nations, which in turn means the virus has more chance to mutate into viable new variants. It's no coincidence that the new Omicron variant arose in unvaccinated South Africa.

The encouraging news is that the hardest work has already been done - the creation of the initial vaccines. It will be relatively quick to modify these to counter Omicron, if necessary. But so long as there are large unvaccinated areas, we can expect new variants to arise quite frequently.



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November 29, 2021, 07:14:52 PM
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This thing really is falling apart. Article from February talking about the South African variant.

https://web.archive.org/web/20210212194649/https://www.npr.org/2021/02/09/965703047/vaccines-could-drive-the-evolution-of-more-covid-19-mutants?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter


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November 29, 2021, 07:22:33 PM
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This thing really is falling apart. Article from February talking about the South African variant.

That's the Beta variant, not Omicron.
They're allowed more than one variant per country, you know. FFS.






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November 29, 2021, 07:43:09 PM
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I've met certain people before who, when you attempt to engage them in a political discussion, respond in stock words, phrases and cliches. You realise that they are not thinking, but simply regurgitating some breathless tabloid/clickbait headline they've read somewhere. The best course of action when encountering these people is to simply move on; you're unlikely to be able to cause them to question their own opinions, because they don't actually have their own opinions. Nevertheless, their repeated use of certain keywords is a useful flag, by which they can be identified.

You like 'scamdemic' better?  I'll not call it a 'pandemic' for the simple reason that it is not.  And never was.

I would not say that you have 'Stockholm Syndrome' because in the case of Stockholm the captives didn't start out loving their captors.  That only happened over a period of abuse.  In your case you were born the perfect lap-dog for TPTB and will almost certainly die that way too.  It is what it is.

What afflicts you seems be be something psychologically closer to 'Battered Wife Syndrome' where 'the leaders only beat you because they love you.'  Intellectually I know the phenomenon exists, but it's hard for me to get my mind around how someone could be repeatedly kicked in the balls ('two weeks to flatten the curve', 'vaccines to get the masks off', etc, etc) and with each kick the love and devotion becomes stronger.

Interestingly when some doomsday cult leader sets a date for the end of the world and it comes and passes, the cultists actually see it as a sign of His greatness and support grows even stronger.  At least the first time.  We see that happening with Dr. Fausti and his cultists, and with the climate change scammers and their cultists.  The two 'schools' are supported by the same money, have the same goals, and largely share cult members so they are actually not two schools at all.  More like two acts in the same fascist play.


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November 29, 2021, 08:48:30 PM
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the feeling I have is that this pandemic will only end when have some medicine that can cure people who are infected, vaccines are welcome and are doing their role well, but from what I see only a vaccine or pill capable of curing people after being infected will be the salvation to eradicate this virus

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November 29, 2021, 10:13:20 PM
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There is no real concern about the variant because we see no evidence that this variant is anymore deadly than previous variants. For all the talk of the delta variant being the end of human civilization, it seemingly wasn't more deadly. And with most viruses decreasing in lethality over time, why worry? As with most things, the announcement of the new variant was almost like a Hollywood showing, where the "experts" were boisterous about revealing the latest and greatest variant. The media, as per their usual task, push fear amongst the unsuspecting population.

None of these geniuses want to ask the real questions -- where is the data that this variant is anymore lethal than previous variants. The answer is that data is nonexistent.
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I doubt we'll see the end of the pandemic any time soon. Regardless of whether the response curbed the spread of the disease, it was a resounding success as far as incresing government authority, transfering wealth away from the middle class, and making people distrustful of one another is concerned. Do you think the people who control the media have nothing left to gain from stretching this thing out indefinitely?

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Obviously someone screwed up bad, Omnicron a half year ahead of schedule. Good news in a couple of months the covid attack is over and done with.
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the announcement of the new variant was almost like a Hollywood showing, where the "experts" were boisterous about revealing the latest and greatest variant. The media, as per their usual task, push fear amongst the unsuspecting population.

None of these geniuses want to ask the real questions -- where is the data that this variant is anymore lethal than previous variants. The answer is that data is nonexistent.


I wasn't aware that anyone had said it was more lethal. Everything I've read suggests that it is a variant of concern because of the types of mutations involved, and the fact that case numbers appear to be escalating rapidly. Early anecdotal evidence suggests that transmissibility might be higher, but symptoms may be milder. But we certainly don't know for sure yet. Similarly there is no evidence yet, as far as I'm aware, that it can evade the vaccines. But it's a variant that might potentially be troublesome, and so it's being investigated.

Having said that, I do stay aware from the more hysterical new sources, and it wouldn't surprise me at all if the usual outlets were screaming about the end of the world, just to generate some interest.






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November 30, 2021, 10:03:31 PM
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New concern - With the discovery of new variants of Covid from the "Delta variant" to now "Omicron" which is another deadly variant forcing countries like Japan and Israel to now impose new travel restrictions, I'm beginning to wonder if this pandemic is ever going to end. As for the persons who have been vaccinated, are they completely free from the threat of Covid and whatever new variant that will emerge, or more vaccine jabs will be needed?

Getting vaccinated doesn't guarantee that you are 100% immune to that disease. These are just preventive measurements against it. As for this new variant, yes it's way more dangerous than the previous one.
The variant was first detected in Botswana and contains a high number of mutations associated with increased immune evasion.
We cannot reach any particular solution yet that the corona vaccines would be effective against this new variant. But we should be more concerned about it. Remember, Prevention is better than cure.
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My understanding is that the new strain of covid is going to become the dominant strain.  This is a good thing because it is even less lethal than the other strains of covid.  The explanation I heard from someone educated on these matters is that this strain of covid will likely outcompete the others and weed them out in a sense.  This is especially good news for the unvaccinated, as vaccines are showing to not be very effective against this new strain anyway.  If you've been on the fence about whether or not you should give in and get the vaccine, I think now you finally have some good news that this pandemic is getting better the only way it ever could have, naturally with time.

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The WHO said there was "preliminary evidence" showing that the Omricron variant carries a higher risk of re-infection for people who have previously been infected.
This indirectly indicates that the vaccine that has been given previously will not be effective in preventing this new variant of the covid virus because the antibodies that have specifically detected the omricron variant are not able to protect the body from further attacks.
But I'm sure in the future there will be a solution to this problem, let the researchers work hard to find it. Now all we can do is take preventive measures for the transmission of the new virus by complying with health protocols.

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Be careful new variant arrived

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Disease breakout is real but comes with many menace, some are natural while some are induced. The induced ones are the major challenges.
The vaccines are highly politicised in some countries. While some countries under report the number of the affected to avoid some kinds of restrictions. Others over report to attract some kind of financial helps from international communities for their individual gains.

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With a new so-called variant like this, it's only a matter of time before it reaches our corrupted city where they will gonna act swiftly because it involves more money. Once again just like the Delta variant, I smell another lockdown and a strict curfew. When money is involved, our government is active and doesn't really care about their people except for a few who chooses to stay just. I thought it already ended when we moved on from the Delta variant. I wonder when they will conclude this rubbish.

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