Raffle No.1 - 0.81 ETH Prize - 10x Players 0.1 ETH Entry

[CryptoRaffle]

Hello guys,

New here and nice to meet you all. After reading about the trust issues users have of gambling websites being promoted on this forum, I'd like to welcome users interested in playing a fair and random raffle game directly on this forum.

Below is a concept idea.

How Raffle No.1 works :

Total Prize Is 0.81 ETH

• 10 Users 'Commit' To Enter At A Cost Of 0.1 ETH Each
• We Then Generate The Result Using RNG
• Winner Is Announced
• 9 Users Each Send The 1 Winner 0.09 ETH (1 Strike and Out Policy Meaning Failure To Pay Users Will Result In Instant Ban)
• The 10 Users Each Send Me The Organiser 0.01 ETH

Thoughts and questions welcomed.

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[brassnuts]

Good luck in finding enough people who were born yesterday.

[NeuroticFish]

Thoughts and questions welcomed.

1. How will you guarantee that the users will send those funds to the winner? I hope that you don't expect people to use you as escrow. (And banning people from your game won't mean anything.)
2. If you generate the result, that can be faked, you need something more trusted than that.

All I see is a simple idea, not polished enough. It may be related to the lack of knowledge if you are newbie indeed or an attempt to scam otherwise.

[CryptoRaffle]

Thoughts and questions welcomed.

1. How will you guarantee that the users will send those funds to the winner? I hope that you don't expect people to use you as escrow. (And banning people from your game won't mean anything.)
2. If you generate the result, that can be faked, you need something more trusted than that.

All I see is a simple idea, not polished enough. It may be related to the lack of knowledge if you are newbie indeed or an attempt to scam otherwise.

No I would not be Escrow, If users who commit to play dont send their payment to winner, then I would to ensure the winner was paid fairly.

The result would be done completely fair for example using the Bonus Ball of The National Lottery.

[NeuroticFish]

No I would not be Escrow, If users who commit to play dont send their payment to winner, then I would to ensure the winner was paid fairly.

The result would be done completely fair for example using the Bonus Ball of The National Lottery.

I am not familiar with your country's national lottery.
However, here, what stops me from making 10 new accounts, pinky swear that I send the 0.1 ETH from each account, obviously not send any and claim the prize from the winner, since you'll pay it from your pocket?

[CryptoRaffle]

No I would not be Escrow, If users who commit to play dont send their payment to winner, then I would to ensure the winner was paid fairly.

The result would be done completely fair for example using the Bonus Ball of The National Lottery.

I am not familiar with your country's national lottery.
However, here, what stops me from making 10 new accounts, pinky swear that I send the 0.1 ETH from each account, obviously not send any and claim the prize from the winner, since you'll pay it from your pocket?

It's a very good point, but Newbies could not play. The idea is to have genuine users seeking a fair gambling experience for which I would hope the users would help me police.

[NeuroticFish]

It's a very good point, but Newbies could not play. The idea is to have genuine users seeking a fair gambling experience for which I would hope the users would help me police.

There are plenty of hacked accounts, farmed accounts, or accounts worth much less than 0.1 ETH
My example with newbies was extreme. But there are much more.
And who will decide if an account is worthy? You can have some of those accounts yourself. And you didn't say a word about making the result fair/trusted, hence you may cheat.

Really, you need to polish your idea.

[romero121]

No I would not be Escrow, If users who commit to play dont send their payment to winner, then I would to ensure the winner was paid fairly.

The result would be done completely fair for example using the Bonus Ball of The National Lottery.

I am not familiar with your country's national lottery.
However, here, what stops me from making 10 new accounts, pinky swear that I send the 0.1 ETH from each account, obviously not send any and claim the prize from the winner, since you'll pay it from your pocket?

It's a very good point, but Newbies could not play. The idea is to have genuine users seeking a fair gambling experience for which I would hope the users would help me police.

Maybe you could try this with your locality or with known persons. If that turn to be successful, then you start your gambling service on the forum. Right now people won't trust, and it isn't an easy thing to fund a raffle with 0.1 Eth when there were more trusted gambling platforms to spend.

[CryptoRaffle]

It's a very good point, but Newbies could not play. The idea is to have genuine users seeking a fair gambling experience for which I would hope the users would help me police.

There are plenty of hacked accounts, farmed accounts, or accounts worth much less than 0.1 ETH
My example with newbies was extreme. But there are much more.
And who will decide if an account is worthy? You can have some of those accounts yourself. And you didn't say a word about making the result fair/trusted, hence you may cheat.

Really, you need to polish your idea.

When you say an Account, you mean an ETH address?

[ryzaadit]

Are you using "Commit" by the person who plays?

In what century you are live? there is a good technology called "Smart contract". You can set up a code after reaching a specific amount, and then the contract can start to roll the raffle. The prize will automatically send to the winner.
- Good system
- No need to commit2 like you said
- Everything is automatically for the raffle system, RNG roll, prize distribution.
- No need to ban2, don't have money can't play ~XD

[brassnuts]

Also the vig is huge, and frankly ridiculous, just for picking 1 number.

The whole idea is absurd.

[nakamura12]

If the player didn't send the eth and got banned in your game means nothing plus no one will trust your game, lottery or raffle whatever you call it. Second, good luck finding players who will play. I think you'll be disappointed with what you are thinking or planning with this one. My guess is this will only lead to more discussion and no raffle (trust issues).

[Darker45]

This is not a good idea and rather risky. If somebody is interested to play a similar game, it is best if it is played among friends. If not, I'd rather gamble my money somewhere else more safe and secure.

Please correct my math but with the rules presented in the OP, one would rather play dice with a 1% house edge. The chance of winning here is 10% and 0.1 ETH will only make 0.81 ETH. If one is to play in a dice site with 1% house edge and 10% winning probability the payout will be 9.9 which means your 0.1 ETH will become 0.89 ETH.

Not only is this kind of game risky, it is also less profitable. So why would I join?

[rodskee]

It's a very good point, but Newbies could not play. The idea is to have genuine users seeking a fair gambling experience for which I would hope the users would help me police.

There are plenty of hacked accounts, farmed accounts, or accounts worth much less than 0.1 ETH
My example with newbies was extreme. But there are much more.
And who will decide if an account is worthy? You can have some of those accounts yourself. And you didn't say a word about making the result fair/trusted, hence you may cheat.

Really, you need to polish your idea.

When you say an Account, you mean an ETH address?

No , He mean Bitcointalk account , there are plenty of hacked account that can be use to join your event since you only seek for ranking account here .
sometimes even Green trusted accounts are being use to shady activities .

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If you can afford to cover those who will not Pay , then you can also afford to Use Escrow here for safety of your event .

But again like what said above , this is not an easy task to start here .

[yahoo62278]

Also the vig is huge, and frankly ridiculous, just for picking 1 number.

The whole idea is absurd.

The vig is ridiculous. 1% maybe 2% max but 10% is crazy.

[UserU]

Aren't altcoin giveaways prohibited here...?

[shasan]

Hello guys,

New here and nice to meet you all. After reading about the trust issues users have of gambling websites being promoted on this forum, I'd like to welcome users interested in playing a fair and random raffle game directly on this forum.

Below is a concept idea.

How Raffle No.1 works :

Total Prize Is 0.81 ETH

• 10 Users 'Commit' To Enter At A Cost Of 0.1 ETH Each
• We Then Generate The Result Using RNG
• Winner Is Announced
• 9 Users Each Send The 1 Winner 0.09 ETH (1 Strike and Out Policy Meaning Failure To Pay Users Will Result In Instant Ban)
• The 10 Users Each Send Me The Organiser 0.01 ETH

Thoughts and questions welcomed.

It is a wise decision for scam attempt. How do you think people will trust you and give you such an amount? There are a lot of people on the forum who could do much more better than you but they are not doing that.
If still people will engage with you, why you will use RNG while you are using crypto, you could use the hash to draw the raffle. If you ban a user from your raffle what will be the loss of that person? Why you are not considering the amount of the winner person too. The winning amount will be 0.91 eth if you do not take the 0.01 from the winner. If you take that from the winner then it will be 0.9 eth. Also why each person will send twie and loss double fee. You could tell to send 8 person to the winner and one to you. In this way you could earn 0.1 eth and the winner could earn 0.9 eth (including the winners amount).

[CryptoRaffle]

Thanks for everyones critique, it's just an idea. 

[Naficopa]

Thanks for everyones critique, it's just an idea. 

We are all very skeptical, and some are even very critical because attempts to start such projects have been made here many times. Unfortunately, most of them ended up as a scam or simply collapsed. If you would like to keep trying to create something similar, the idea of creating such a raffle based on a smart contract seems to me good and as I know, so far no one has tried to solve it this way.

[Betwrong]

Thanks for everyones critique, it's just an idea.  

Look, maybe you didn't mean to offend anybody, but these words of yours

~ After reading about the trust issues users have of gambling websites being promoted on this forum, ~

sound insulting, well, to me at least. Since you are "New here", let me tell you that most gambling websites promoted on this forum are trustworthy, and the idea of the gambling section of this forum is to have all the needed info about crypto gambling assembled in one place. If we want to gamble, we can choose from many different established sites and go there. Why on earth do you think that we need a complete stranger to organise a raffle for us? Because we know that here are only scammers around us?

Seriously, dude, WTF?

[brassnuts]

The thing is you can set up these types of raffles in a contract or similar and do it vig free almost. 10% vig is just silly.

[btc78]

Thanks for everyones critique, it's just an idea. 

Yes and the community is just Helping you to maintain your reputation because this world of crypto is filled with different type of people and there are too many scam and shill that may try to take advantage of your idea(or vice versa of course as no one knows you being a Newbie here)
so that's good taking all the criticism and try to look at those to use as material on how to improve your intentions without having any hassles.

But for me personally? this is really a Bad Idea unless you can cook some more valid details to become more trusted .

[shasan]

Thanks for everyones critique, it's just an idea. 

The idea should be base on your position same as real life. Base on your rank and reputation it is impossible to trust you and hopefully think you have not enough idea how to control it. If you have then you could not express that. You can see a lot of questions base on your post but you could not answer any of those.

[CryptoRaffle]

Thanks for everyones critique, it's just an idea.  

Look, maybe you didn't mean to offend anybody, but these words of yours

~ After reading about the trust issues users have of gambling websites being promoted on this forum, ~

sound insulting, well, to me at least. Since you are "New here", let me tell you that most gambling websites promoted on this forum are trustworthy, and the idea of the gambling section of this forum is to have all the needed info about crypto gambling assembled in one place. If we want to gamble, we can choose from many different established sites and go there. Why on earth do you think that we need a complete stranger to organise a raffle for us? Because we know that here are only scammers around us?

Seriously, dude, WTF?

I did not say gambling websites are not trustworthy. However you would have to agree that there a lot of questions regarding trustworthiness of gambling websites popping up on here. Talking of strangers, I take it you really know the person who you bet with? Have a nice day.

[BitcoinAccepted]

So it's like a blockchain lottery. We'll the idea is good but I think this is not the right board for it, I think the games and rounds is the right board to post this. That's was actually a good idea and good profit for hosting the game, does anyone join the game already?

[robelneo]

• The 10 Users Each Send Me The Organiser 0.01 ETH

Thoughts and questions welcomed.

Nice try but not enough to convince people here to send you 0.01 I could have a hundred reasons not to send but not one reason to convince me why should I not, are we this idiot and naive to send you 0.01, I have not seen anything like this you should try to be moe constructive if you want to scam or beg people to give you money.

[dustboy]

It will not happen, trust me. There were too many people tried to provide the same thing, but no one is interested to join. Frankly, it looks to me that you are trying to make few dollars for free only from the fee you will take from the pool.

[Kakmakr]

This will only work when all of the 10 people send their 0.1 ETH entry fee in advance to a trustworthy Escrow and then that Escrow pay the 1 winner in the end. If you do not get enough people to join this, you have to have someone that will be refunding the players... so there must be a third party between these players. 

It would be great if this could be "automated" in a smart contract between these players... so it will check for a result and then pay out the total balance of the winner. The smart contract must be clever enough to wait for all the 10 spots to be filled, before it pay out the winner. It must also subtract the fee for the person hosting this "raffle" 

[Coin_trader]

Thanks for everyones critique, it's just an idea.  

An idea that you didn't think first or do research before you post it. This kind of game needs a tremendous amount of transaction fee plus the main concern of many here about trust issue. People can just use a casino to gamble easily on different game without facing the risk and hassle of your program. I will only understand this if you are a trusted long time member but even a long time trusted member don't bother to organized this kind of event. You should think twice before making such a decision like this. This can be considered as a scam attempt since you are newbie asking for huge amount of money to put on your game.

[rhomelmabini]

It will not happen, trust me. There were too many people tried to provide the same thing, but no one is interested to join. Frankly, it looks to me that you are trying to make few dollars for free only from the fee you will take from the pool.

Talking about facts, yes it will never happen, not even a slight chance of success. That's 0.19 ETH to the OP if ever there are also dumb people that may get hook in this scheme. It isn't just a few dollars tbh, that's still a huge amount considering his effort was just to get the people to join and wait for the raffle to end.

[naira]

Welcome to the forum

I appreciate the way you invite us, but unfortunately it is too dangerous to bet with a fairly large nominal 0.1 ETH is not a small amount. Moreover, here we have occupied a betting casino which is much more guaranteed for all the funds we bet. Therefore there is nothing we can be sure of that what you have to offer can attract gamblers who easily risk 0.1 ETH.

The concept you describe does not have a source of support which is very important, considering there will be a large fee in it, so it is not enough to just write and without any conditions for guaranteeing someone's funds if you dare to bet on the lottery.

[Russlenat]

Hello guys,

New here and nice to meet you all.

Nice to meet you too, but you are new here and you want to run a raffle draw with over $400 entry at the current price of 0.1 ETH now.

Sorry mate, I think you are in the wrong place, you can't get people to trust you with their money, build your reputation first but even if you rank up and build a good reputation, an escrow is always advisable as not only newbies can scam, even the high-rank forum members.

[Shamm]

Hello guys,

New here and nice to meet you all. After reading about the trust issues users have of gambling websites being promoted on this forum, I'd like to welcome users interested in playing a fair and random raffle game directly on this forum.

Below is a concept idea.

How Raffle No.1 works :

Total Prize Is 0.81 ETH

• 10 Users 'Commit' To Enter For 0.1 ETH Each
• We Then Generate The Result Using RNG
• Winner Is Announced
• 9 Users Each Send The 1 Winner 0.09 ETH (1 Strike and Out Policy Meaning Failure To Pay Users Will Result In Instant Ban)
• The 10 Users Each Send Me The Organiser 0.01 ETH

Thoughts and questions are welcomed.

Hello Op nice to meet you too
First I want to say welcome to the forum
For you, it is good enough to deposit 0.1 ETH which is not just a small amount to deposit. But you must think the people around you if they accept that kind of deposit without assurance.
No offense To you OP looking at your profile and the way you introduce your site.
Many people disagree with you because you are not trusted enough to negotiate.

[Betwrong]

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I did not say gambling websites are not trustworthy. However you would have to agree that there a lot of questions regarding trustworthiness of gambling websites popping up on here. Talking of strangers, I take it you really know the person who you bet with? Have a nice day.

Maybe I don't know them personally, but I can see what is their reputation here, and make my conclusions. Hang around here for a while, build up some reputation, a good one, then open a thread with practically the same words, and I will never say that there's something wrong with that. Only I'm pretty sure that after spending some time reading this forum, your words won't be the same. At least regarding the organizer fee, they won't.

[Naficopa]

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I did not say gambling websites are not trustworthy. However you would have to agree that there a lot of questions regarding trustworthiness of gambling websites popping up on here. Talking of strangers, I take it you really know the person who you bet with? Have a nice day.

Maybe I don't know them personally, but I can see what is their reputation here, and make my conclusions. Hang around here for a while, build up some reputation, a good one, then open a thread with practically the same words, and I will never say that there's something wrong with that. Only I'm pretty sure that after spending some time reading this forum, your words won't be the same. At least regarding the organizer fee, they won't.

It's not easy to build a good reputation, especially in the beginning, because you have to start from zero. The idea presented in this thread, is too brave and for obvious reasons could not be successful. However, I think that if the OP would like to continue, he could use a trusted escrow and radically reduce, or even leave the fee for the first few raffles.

[Reatim]

What happened to the plan event? looks like it is cancelled due to lack of response? i love the concept and i even wanted to be part if the account started this thread is trusted or at least not New to this forum.

but from someone who just created an account and at the same time posted this? it makes me think something fishy though i am not accusing OP of anything , it is just because of the funding in which denied to use Escrow .

[panjul07]

What happened to the plan event? looks like it is cancelled due to lack of response? i love the concept and i even wanted to be part if the account started this thread is trusted or at least not New to this forum.

but from someone who just created an account and at the same time posted this? it makes me think something fishy though i am not accusing OP of anything , it is just because of the funding in which denied to use Escrow .

OP is gone already IMO because he realized that his plan is not gaining any interest from forum members.
He might be thinking that his idea is great and will attract many users, but he was wrong absolutely.
Raffle/Lottery like what is prepared by OP is not attractive at all and it has been proven by the fact that there were many other similar failed offers.

[savetheFORUM]

OP is gone already IMO because he realized that his plan is not gaining any interest from forum members.
He might be thinking that his idea is great and will attract many users, but he was wrong absolutely.
Raffle/Lottery like what is prepared by OP is not attractive at all and it has been proven by the fact that there were many other similar failed offers.

Yeah, it seems that OP was come from some other world as he was feeling this forum is still having some chance for peoples like him to achieve their scam targets, but recently members are having some good enough information and all knowledge about these things, so it's not easy for anyone to create any hype for scam or anything like this.

As he realizes he slips away very quickly without wasting his more time for scam, but one thing is sure this forum is heaven for these peoples, and they will come again and again with projects like this but go back with empty hands because now enough updates and information available for all to check them and put them on their right place.

[BitcoinAccepted]

I think this topic should be moved to games and rounds anyway does the OP find participants to this round? I think you should also use escrow since the OP is newbie and we cannot trust anyone especially newbie accounts to hold the fund, right? Some people here might think this is scam but we shouldn't also consider that he might just looking for ways to earn as you can see he said that a portion of the entries will be taken as a fee because he organized it however it will not be successful just like what I have said because  first the OP is newbie second thing the raffle rounds was not that really popular anymore.

[kotajikikox]

OP is gone already IMO because he realized that his plan is not gaining any interest from forum members.
He might be thinking that his idea is great and will attract many users, but he was wrong absolutely.
Raffle/Lottery like what is prepared by OP is not attractive at all and it has been proven by the fact that there were many other similar failed offers.

Yeah, it seems that OP was come from some other world as he was feeling this forum is still having some chance for peoples like him to achieve their scam targets, but recently members are having some good enough information and all knowledge about these things, so it's not easy for anyone to create any hype for scam or anything like this.

As he realizes he slips away very quickly without wasting his more time for scam, but one thing is sure this forum is heaven for these peoples, and they will come again and again with projects like this but go back with empty hands because now enough updates and information available for all to check them and put them on their right place.

And sure will  never be back again because of His noob behavior , he does not even spend few time to observe the right behavior and treatment before delivering His scam plan 

at least the community will not react this faster like what he did, and also it is always questionable when a Newbie account offers such event or plans because this involves money and no one will trust him that easy .
 

but it is good that realization comes to him that fast, and now maybe he is planning more careful and will be back sooner.

[traderethereum]

OP is gone already IMO because he realized that his plan is not gaining any interest from forum members.
He might be thinking that his idea is great and will attract many users, but he was wrong absolutely.
Raffle/Lottery like what is prepared by OP is not attractive at all and it has been proven by the fact that there were many other similar failed offers.

Yeah, it seems that OP was come from some other world as he was feeling this forum is still having some chance for peoples like him to achieve their scam targets, but recently members are having some good enough information and all knowledge about these things, so it's not easy for anyone to create any hype for scam or anything like this.

As he realizes he slips away very quickly without wasting his more time for scam, but one thing is sure this forum is heaven for these peoples, and they will come again and again with projects like this but go back with empty hands because now enough updates and information available for all to check them and put them on their right place.

And sure will  never be back again because of His noob behavior , he does not even spend few time to observe the right behavior and treatment before delivering His scam plan 

at least the community will not react this faster like what he did, and also it is always questionable when a Newbie account offers such event or plans because this involves money and no one will trust him that easy .

but it is good that realization comes to him that fast, and now maybe he is planning more careful and will be back sooner.

I am sure he will search for the other forum and try to promote his site and hope that he can get many players.
But if he still does like what he did in this forum, I do not think that he can convince other people from another forum because the amount of ETH is too high, even for the investors, it will not be easy to send the amount to someone that they do not know.
I prefer to play the lottery on Freebitco.in than to send the money to others that I do not know for sure

[Betwrong]

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It's not easy to build a good reputation, especially in the beginning, because you have to start from zero. The idea presented in this thread, is too brave and for obvious reasons could not be successful. However, I think that if the OP would like to continue, he could use a trusted escrow and radically reduce, or even leave the fee for the first few raffles.

Honestly, I don't get it. Why do wee need such a raffle, in the first place? Don't we have many reputable and trusted sites advertised on this forum? So many that it's impossible for me to even register on all of them. And it's not because I don't trust them. I do. I just don't have time to play there.

So, why do we need such a service? (I'm writing not for the OP, bc it looks like he has left this place for good. I'm wondering if other forum members have a different opinion on this matter.)

[shasan]

It's not easy to build a good reputation, especially in the beginning, because you have to start from zero.

All the users on the forum started from new including you and me. Though before merit system it was easy and now it is too difficult to build a good reputation but it is not impossible. If you can check my profile then you would be able to know that I have started after merit system and now I am a hero member and I have +_ 20 merit for dt and many more who are out of dt.

[davis196]

The 10 Users Each Send Me The Organiser 0.01 ETH

Yeah,right.
I have nothing against the raffle/lottery business model,but there's no way your idea is going to work.
I have some suggestions:
1.Use smart contracts and a legit way of randomized winner picking(that can be verified)."Send me your ETH,because I'm the organizer" doesn't work.People aren't dumb.
2.I bigger portion of the "ticket pool" must be used for advertising or maybe there should be a way to incentivize players to share your raffle on social media and drive free referral traffic to your raffle.
3.You have to be as legit and trustworthy as possible.There must be no doubt about your legitimacy.
The raffle winners must provide good reviews about your raffle.

[Reatim]

It's not easy to build a good reputation, especially in the beginning, because you have to start from zero.

All the users on the forum started from new including you and me. Though before merit system it was easy and now it is too difficult to build a good reputation but it is not impossible. If you can check my profile then you would be able to know that I have started after merit system and now I am a hero member and I have +_ 20 merit for dt and many more who are out of dt.

Even before merit system it is hard to Build reputation it is only the Ranking that makes difficult by the Merit system but the reputation takes years before making it far.
though there are some who had use this to abuse the community , we have seen many ranking account that in the end turns out scammer or Loan Defaulter .
OP may be New but the problem in this thread is he does not wanted to Use escrow in which why this become shady and now after few days of His thread, he is gone and never come back meaning he is burned by the community lol.

[Fritwakky]

OP may be New but the problem in this thread is he does not wanted to Use escrow in which why this become shady and now after few days of His thread, he is gone and never come back meaning he is burned by the community lol.

At the beginning of this thread, no one wanted to immediately write that this is a scam. For me, from the very beginning, when I read it, the intentions of whoever came up with it were clear. If the OP had good intentions, it would start with very small amounts to see how such a system might work. Here was an attempt to extort large amounts right away, because it was an attempt at a one-time scam.