Bonus of over 1000 Euros stuck behind wager wall, fml

[MNbag]

Managed to be very lucky at ClubRiches and got 1000 Euros.

Only one problem: It is stuck behind a wager wall.



They don't count wagering your bonus as wagering in total, so it is stuck here.



Unless a kind person was to give me the money to claim the wager (which I doubt will happen), I guess it will be gone within a week.

Godammit.  

Guess the lesson I learnt is deposit bonuses are better than no deposit bonuses.

[rhomelmabini]

Well, that's kind of a good luck but how on earth you'd gonna claim it then by depositing the same amount as your bonus? I don't think that's gonna work and I doubt if there's someone that may lent you that amount in here too unless it's really worth a shot.

[NeuroticFish]

OP, this kind of posts look more like attempt to scam, really. I mean, you didn't say clearly what are the rules for the claim and basically you want all the risk to stay in lender's hands, which is not normal.
If you truly believe you can get that bonus, I am sure that you will find proper collateral and lend the needed amount of money - whether on Bitcointalk, from pawn shop or, why not, from family or friends.

[Haunebu]

Never heard of this site before. This is definitely bad luck, but you don't lose anything at the end of the day. Expecting someone in this forum to help you with this matter is silly and nonsensical in my opinion.

If you want to claim the biggest bonus, you need to figure out a solution with your own funds. Try speaking to their customer support in order to try and find some solutions.

[DarkStar_]

If the screenshots you're showing paint the full picture, it should be a no brainer to deposit your own money to reach the required wager amount, no? Even if we assume that you lose all 717 euros meeting the wager requirement, you'd unlock a 1029 euro bonus guaranteeing you a 300 euro profit. Surely something like this is worth bothering your friends and family about if you're unable to afford it yourself, especially since it seems like 300 euros would be a pretty large amount for you.

Guess the lesson I learnt is deposit bonuses are better than no deposit bonuses.

If you had the money to deposit anyway, a no deposit bonus just means that you don't risk losing your deposit ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[MNbag]

OP, this kind of posts look more like attempt to scam, really. I mean, you didn't say clearly what are the rules for the claim and basically you want all the risk to stay in lender's hands, which is not normal.
If you truly believe you can get that bonus, I am sure that you will find proper collateral and lend the needed amount of money - whether on Bitcointalk, from pawn shop or, why not, from family or friends.

I am sorry for making myself unclear.

I did not request any funds to withdraw that, I just stated that unless someone helped me with this, I would be unable to withdraw this.

If the screenshots you're showing paint the full picture, it should be a no brainer to deposit your own money to reach the required wager amount, no? Even if we assume that you lose all 717 euros meeting the wager requirement, you'd unlock a 1029 euro bonus guaranteeing you a 300 euro profit.

I was bonus surfing for free cash, I didn't expect to make a profit and certainly not to this scale of a 1000 Euros.

I know that I have conveyed the wrong impression with my message, but it hurts to be accused of scamming.

Just ranting.

[NeuroticFish]

I am sorry for making myself unclear.

I did not request any funds to withdraw that, I just stated that unless someone helped me with this, I would be unable to withdraw this.

Well, the part "Unless a kind person was to give me the money to claim the wager" can be understood that way.
While you are right - we are in gambling section and not in lending - I would not be surprised if some fellow gambler is "interested" in taking the risk, and it would not be advised since it can end bad for both of you (money is a sensitive thing, especially when something goes wrong).

So point was only to help - both you and any potential gambler-lender - in getting things right.

You don't have to apologize (btw, I also didn't say that you are scammer - I'd need proof for that -; what I said was this can be seen like that). Language is an imperfect way to transmit information. My advice is to not accept any help here. As other said discuss with the support there about what you need to do to get to withdraw those funds, research to make 100% sure it's not a scam site, and if it's indeed a prize there to grab easily, get a loan and grab it. Good luck!

[Fortify]

Managed to be very lucky at ClubRiches and got 1000 Euros.

Only one problem: It is stuck behind a wager wall.

They don't count wagering your bonus as wagering in total, so it is stuck here.

Unless a kind person was to give me the money to claim the wager (which I doubt will happen), I guess it will be gone within a week.

Godammit.  

Guess the lesson I learnt is deposit bonuses are better than no deposit bonuses.

Until you have wagered the required amount you don't have anything. These offers are specifically designed and engineered to make it look possible to win big amounts but they are often just traps to entice players to spend money. Now.. first off, do they expect you to wager 717 euros and then the additional 1000 euros to unlock it? Or does it just require 717 euros to be wagered? If you truly believe it is a legitimate site then there are ways to do that if you know someone with cash, where you should only lose a little bit. Find something like a soccer game where you can bet on total goals odd/even in the match, you might lose 50 euros but gain the ability to unlock it. Just make sure you're also aware of any required terms around the bet, they might require you to make extremely risky bets that would make it not worth it. Get out of the habit of thinking this is your money unless you can successfully unlock it - it does not exist to you.

[rhomelmabini]

I know that I have conveyed the wrong impression with my message, but it hurts to be accused of scamming.

Just ranting.

I think @NeuroticFish just give you the benefit of the doubt in his statement not that it meant to accused you or something. Well, 300 is still a huge amount and 6 more days to get that is still doubtful, I'm just hoping you can get it at least.

Never heard of this site before.

Same here but got a review here from BTCGOSU: https://www.btcgosu.com/review/clubriches-casino/

[rohang]

If the screenshots you're showing paint the full picture, it should be a no brainer to deposit your own money to reach the required wager amount, no? Even if we assume that you lose all 717 euros meeting the wager requirement, you'd unlock a 1029 euro bonus guaranteeing you a 300 euro profit. Surely something like this is worth bothering your friends and family about if you're unable to afford it yourself, especially since it seems like 300 euros would be a pretty large amount for you.

Guess the lesson I learnt is deposit bonuses are better than no deposit bonuses.

If you had the money to deposit anyway, a no deposit bonus just means that you don't risk losing your deposit ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

are we even sure this website is legit and wont just run with OP's deposit if he does deposit ??

I have seen many sites who offer 'free money' and then ask for deposits to unlock that.

@OP if u do deposit please do your research on this website before u deposit

[magneto]

OP, I'd be very, very skeptical.

Casinos obviously don't like people winning off no-deposit bonuses and I doubt that they would be particularly happy about paying out any bonus in general. So they try to make the process as difficult as possible for you.

Use your common sense. I'd just let it go instead of depositing anything because it could be the case that the site is a complete fraud and your deposit gets held.

[cabron]

Never heard of this site before. This is definitely bad luck, but you don't lose anything at the end of the day. Expecting someone in this forum to help you with this matter is silly and nonsensical in my opinion.

If you want to claim the biggest bonus, you need to figure out a solution with your own funds. Try speaking to their customer support in order to try and find some solutions.

When you haven't heard of it before, it may just be good to not get into it. It's been a golden rule already not to try on casinos that are not really tested by individuals here.

As for OP, showing this here like you wanted to as for loan will end with a dispute. One scenario I could think of is that the casino will charge you for cheating in the bonuses and you will not be able to withdraw them and the person you took a loan loses.

[Darker45]

Deposit bonuses are, of course, better than no deposit bonuses. Come on, don't be too salty that you don't get to have it absolutely for free!

Surely, you don't expect gambling sites to just give away money for free, do you? At the end of the day, they exist to make money and not to operate as a charitable institution, right?

As much as we don't like it, I guess it is not really unfair. These bonuses are actually part of the investment of the casino. They're giving them away with the hope that they'd get a much bigger amount in return.

[YOSHIE]

Yes, this is a +1 point I have experienced something like what was said by:@magneto.

Casinos obviously don't like people winning off no-deposit bonuses and I doubt that they would be particularly happy about paying out any bonus in general. So they try to make the process as difficult as possible for you.

But i realized, i didn't deposit the money on purpose, i tried to take advantage of the bonus they gave, unexpectedly i won $1000, but it's all useless, I can't take the bonus and I never complain, because I realize it's impossible for me, unless I deposit, and that's not necessarily, maybe I have to set the bet from the bottom again.

Gambling sites are not stupid to give free bonuses, except: follow the rules to get the bonus.

[davis196]

Casino bonuses are used as an incentive to make the gamblers deposit more money(and eventually lose that money,so the casino makes profit).No casino in the world is going to just give away bonus money for free.
There's nothing wrong with that.This is how the gambling business works.People should gamble for fun and not for the sake of winning bonuses.
I'm really suspicious about this Clubriches casino,because I've never heard anything about the casino,so the possibility of getting scammed is big.
OP,you should be careful when making deposits on that casino.Greed is the worst advisor.
I'm wondering about the possibility of the casino lying to the gambler,by making him think that he "won" a big bonus by playing some games,that are actually rigged.When the gambler decides to deposit and bet some money in order to claim the bonus,he eventually starts losing the games and the money he bets.

[UserU]

Never heard of this site before. This is definitely bad luck, but you don't lose anything at the end of the day. Expecting someone in this forum to help you with this matter is silly and nonsensical in my opinion.

If you want to claim the biggest bonus, you need to figure out a solution with your own funds. Try speaking to their customer support in order to try and find some solutions.

It's part of the Freebitcoin sites, along with DPLAY.

I have seen this several times on the faucet and Quin mentioned this as well.

[Shamm]

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OP nowadays No one is free you should double your security don't be greedy, and check the casino first make some research about that. Being greed makes you fall as our forum mates tell you above  
Use your critical thinking, think twice even thrice you should not believe in free put it in your mind that there's no free.
If you want to win you should bet an amount for that.

[Bitinity]

Never heard of this site before.

Same here but got a review here from BTCGOSU: https://www.btcgosu.com/review/clubriches-casino/

Seems a legit site if it is reviewed by BTCGOSU. If I was in OP position, I'll try to find more information about the bonus especially how much is the max amount to withdraw. Most no deposit bonus has a limit amount to withdraw, so it can be used to calculate whether it is worth or not to deposit in order to complete the wagering requirement.

[Haunebu]

Same here but got a review here from BTCGOSU: https://www.btcgosu.com/review/clubriches-casino/

Interesting. It seems like this is a decent casino due to a 4.4/5 rating by Btcgosu which implies that it's trustworthy since I trust Btcgosu's reviews. Op needs to check the bonus section of their review to find more information regarding his issue.

It's part of the Freebitcoin sites, along with DPLAY.

I have seen this several times on the faucet and Quin mentioned this as well.

Interesting. This is my first time hearing about it though. Personally, I would steer clear of it primarily because of the fact that they enforce mandatory KYC which is a major con.

[South Park]

OP, I'd be very, very skeptical.

Casinos obviously don't like people winning off no-deposit bonuses and I doubt that they would be particularly happy about paying out any bonus in general. So they try to make the process as difficult as possible for you.

Use your common sense. I'd just let it go instead of depositing anything because it could be the case that the site is a complete fraud and your deposit gets held.

I agree, I do not remember ever seeing that casino before but I would be very skeptical about this, deposit bonuses can be difficult to claim as the wager requirements can be extreme in some casinos, I cannot imagine how hard it must be to be able to withdraw a no deposit bonus.

Also are you sure this is a legitimate casino OP? Because we have seen many variations of a similar scam, for example this is very common with airdrops, in which supposedly you are given some new coins but you need to deposit some ethereum to free them, and as you may guess you never see those coins or the money you sent ever again.

[2double0]

A €1000 no deposit bonus?
How can you even get so high a bonus?
If you did get a bonus, you haven't read the terms and conditions before accepting such a generous bonus offer by the casino? And why do everybody here expect that they will be helped out with money? If you need, borne the interest yourself by getting a loan.

[ryzaadit]

-snip-

I believe he apply no deposit bonus.

But suddenly, he wins a lot and make the balance to more than 1,000$. I also get lucky on "FORTUNEJACK" from 300$ no deposit bonus and became 1700$, the only problem only wagering around 25% left and lost the balance ~XD.

Come on, do people is like to read? we love to action first, then while have some problem we will read ~XD

[babygun]

I agree, I do not remember ever seeing that casino before but I would be very skeptical about this, deposit bonuses can be difficult to claim as the wager requirements can be extreme in some casinos, I cannot imagine how hard it must be to be able to withdraw a no deposit bonus.

Also are you sure this is a legitimate casino OP? Because we have seen many variations of a similar scam, for example this is very common with airdrops, in which supposedly you are given some new coins but you need to deposit some ethereum to free them, and as you may guess you never see those coins or the money you sent ever again.

I don't really get all the scepsis around this casino. As UserU has mentioned this site is part of freebitco.in and we all know that they are the longest running faucet site online and are legit. Maybe they should make it more clear that they are part of freebitco.in.

@OP, I would just do what Darkstar proposed, seems like an easy extra 300€ that you can win in this way.

[smyslov]

A close friend can give you that to claim your bonus, or if you want to extend your luck pawn what you have there a phone or whatever with value but you have to make sure that you are dealing with a reputable casino it could be a trap the scheme is very similar employed by new casinos, you have six days to go to try your luck to claim your bonus or you can forget about it it's your choice.

[Doell]

well I got an email promotion from freebitco.in  

"MEET OUR NEW PARTNERS, CLUB RICHES"

You have 60 SPINS for SIN CITY NIGHTS waiting when you join Club Riches.
Absolutely FREE. No deposit needed

and then I got curious and go to the link   ! I was redirected to https://promotions.clubriches.com/freebitcoin-exclusive-sin-city/ OP you get freespins from which promotion? before claiming anything you have to read the existing house rules !

[coin-investor]

well I got an email promotion from freebitco.in  

"MEET OUR NEW PARTNERS, CLUB RICHES"

You have 60 SPINS for SIN CITY NIGHTS waiting when you join Club Riches.
Absolutely FREE. No deposit needed

and then I got curious and go to the link   ! I was redirected to https://promotions.clubriches.com/freebitcoin-exclusive-sin-city/ OP you get freespins from which promotion? before claiming anything you have to read the existing house rules !

Casinos are not giving free money, they are giving free spins and bonuses to compel people to deposit, and increase activity in their casino, be sure before participating that you are fully aware of the catch, you will get caught surprised if you have not read the rules and mechanics like what OP experienced, anyway OP can still get that bonus if he really wants just be sure that he si dealing with a legit casino and he'll get that bonus once he completes the requirements.

[michellee]

well I got an email promotion from freebitco.in  

"MEET OUR NEW PARTNERS, CLUB RICHES"

You have 60 SPINS for SIN CITY NIGHTS waiting when you join Club Riches.
Absolutely FREE. No deposit needed

and then I got curious and go to the link   ! I was redirected to https://promotions.clubriches.com/freebitcoin-exclusive-sin-city/ OP you get freespins from which promotion? before claiming anything you have to read the existing house rules !

Casinos are not giving free money, they are giving free spins and bonuses to compel people to deposit, and increase activity in their casino, be sure before participating that you are fully aware of the catch, you will get caught surprised if you have not read the rules and mechanics like what OP experienced, anyway OP can still get that bonus if he really wants just be sure that he si dealing with a legit casino and he'll get that bonus once he completes the requirements.

It is why reading their TOS will be important before we do something because if we skip that, we may face a problem in the future, especially if we want to gamble more than others. Maybe it is because we are too greedy seeing the number of money that we get without a deposit anything but then, the rules that say different things. But if we can be careful to understand the promotion, I am sure we can know what we should do and not easily to playing gambling without reading anything on their TOS.

[AicecreaME]

They are operating since last year if I'm not mistaken, and they said that their customer service is 24/7 so I suggest you send an email to them regarding about this matter to solve your problem easily. Also, is your account only a demo account? if it is, then you really can't withdraw that money. I've searched about them and so far there's no scam accusations against them. However, the bonus you've got seems too good to be true to have without really doing anything.

[dustboy]

They are operating since last year if I'm not mistaken, and they said that their customer service is 24/7 so I suggest you send an email to them regarding about this matter to solve your problem easily. Also, is your account only a demo account? if it is, then you really can't withdraw that money. I've searched about them and so far there's no scam accusations against them. However, the bonus you've got seems too good to be true to have without really doing anything.

What is the problem he is facing? I do not see any problem here except his confusion about the bonus he got from the casino because he will not be able to complete the wagering requirement without playing with real money (deposit). His main problem is he is not having some money to deposit in order to complete the wagering requirement.

[South Park]

well I got an email promotion from freebitco.in  

"MEET OUR NEW PARTNERS, CLUB RICHES"

You have 60 SPINS for SIN CITY NIGHTS waiting when you join Club Riches.
Absolutely FREE. No deposit needed

and then I got curious and go to the link   ! I was redirected to https://promotions.clubriches.com/freebitcoin-exclusive-sin-city/ OP you get freespins from which promotion? before claiming anything you have to read the existing house rules !

Casinos are not giving free money, they are giving free spins and bonuses to compel people to deposit, and increase activity in their casino, be sure before participating that you are fully aware of the catch, you will get caught surprised if you have not read the rules and mechanics like what OP experienced, anyway OP can still get that bonus if he really wants just be sure that he si dealing with a legit casino and he'll get that bonus once he completes the requirements.

It is why reading their TOS will be important before we do something because if we skip that, we may face a problem in the future, especially if we want to gamble more than others. Maybe it is because we are too greedy seeing the number of money that we get without a deposit anything but then, the rules that say different things. But if we can be careful to understand the promotion, I am sure we can know what we should do and not easily to playing gambling without reading anything on their TOS.

Sometimes this is not about greed and instead it is just how things turn out, maybe the OP just thought that it was a good opportunity to gamble with free money and was not expecting to win anything out of it, but once he did then he needed to begin to worry about how to deal with the conditions of the bonuses that were given to him after he won, and while the amount is not life changing it would be a waste to lose it.

[timerland]

Well, everything has to have a catch.

These casinos are not charities so I don't even know why you would expect them to give you such high bonuses without some sort of a restriction on withdrawals.

Definitely don't deposit in case that they are actually a fraud. Just let it go man.

[Beparanf]

Managed to be very lucky at ClubRiches and got 1000 Euros.

Only one problem: It is stuck behind a wager wall.



They don't count wagering your bonus as wagering in total, so it is stuck here.



Unless a kind person was to give me the money to claim the wager (which I doubt will happen), I guess it will be gone within a week.

Godammit.  

Guess the lesson I learnt is deposit bonuses are better than no deposit bonuses.

Can you provude the ToS for that promotion. How the heck you manage to wager the bonus while you don't have any deposit on that casino? On what kind of promotion you get that bonus money? It seems a very weird promotion to let user play using the bonus while they will not let the user withdraw unless he will deposit same amount of money. I think that's very suspicious same with the casino indicated on the screenshot.

You should not be able to play unless you will the minimum requirements to get that particular bonus. Just a hunch but the casino is very shady. Keep away.

[dustboy]

Can you provude the ToS for that promotion. How the heck you manage to wager the bonus while you don't have any deposit on that casino? On what kind of promotion you get that bonus money? It seems a very weird promotion to let user play using the bonus while they will not let the user withdraw unless he will deposit same amount of money. I think that's very suspicious same with the casino indicated on the screenshot.

You should not be able to play unless you will the minimum requirements to get that particular bonus. Just a hunch but the casino is very shady. Keep away.

Do not judge if we do not know the full terms and conditions related to the bonus. Every casino has their own terms about bonuses especially no deposit bonus. In this case we should know about the no deposit bonus which is taken by MNbag before judging the casino too far away without clear information.

[ultrloa]

Can you provude the ToS for that promotion. How the heck you manage to wager the bonus while you don't have any deposit on that casino? On what kind of promotion you get that bonus money? It seems a very weird promotion to let user play using the bonus while they will not let the user withdraw unless he will deposit same amount of money. I think that's very suspicious same with the casino indicated on the screenshot.

You should not be able to play unless you will the minimum requirements to get that particular bonus. Just a hunch but the casino is very shady. Keep away.

Do not judge if we do not know the full terms and conditions related to the bonus. Every casino has their own terms about bonuses especially no deposit bonus. In this case we should know about the no deposit bonus which is taken by MNbag before judging the casino too far away without clear information.

For many issues they encounter before maybe their casino are now facing a financial issues and they are not generating to much revenue that's why they always go like this and have issues towards payment especially on their campaign running. Maybe they choose to act like this and they wait to get a profit before they pay their campaigners and can able to fill their hot wallet, this is just a pure speculation so hopefully this is not the case since its little much not good if they are not in good shape anymore.

[Pmalek]

I suggest you take a look at the bonus terms on the link below. It will explain what you need to do.
https://www.clubriches.com/en/contacts/bonus-policy

Their wagering requirement is 30X.
The source says that both the deposited money and the bonus money count towards the wagering requirements. But a deposit has to be made.

If you decide to try and fulfill the requirements, you need to know that not all games contribute equally to the wagering requirements. The only games that contribute 100% are slots and Slots and Scratch Cards. The rest contributes 10% or less. What does that mean for you? If you play Blackjack, for example, and you wager €100, due to a 10% wagering contribution, it's like you only wagered €10. But if you play slots or scratch cards, a €100 bet is considered a €100 wager.

It's all explained in the bonus terms I linked above. Read through it.

[Kakmakr]

I suggest you take a look at the bonus terms on the link below. It will explain what you need to do.
https://www.clubriches.com/en/contacts/bonus-policy

Their wagering requirement is 30X.
The source says that both the deposited money and the bonus money count towards the wagering requirements. But a deposit has to be made.

If you decide to try and fulfill the requirements, you need to know that not all games contribute equally to the wagering requirements. The only games that contribute 100% are slots and Slots and Scratch Cards. The rest contributes 10% or less. What does that mean for you? If you play Blackjack, for example, and you wager €100, due to a 10% wagering contribution, it's like you only wagered €10. But if you play slots or scratch cards, a €100 bet is considered a €100 wager.

It's all explained in the bonus terms I linked above. Read through it.

I do not think he wants to spend money to get to the 30x wager requirements. He just wants to find a way for someone else to fall for this and then deposit into his account... for the "bonus" that does not exists.

He or she could care less about your wagering tips, because he is just posting this to scam more people. I seriously doubt that he would take the time to read the ToS. 

[Pmalek]

I do not think he wants to spend money to get to the 30x wager requirements. He just wants to find a way for someone else to fall for this and then deposit into his account... for the "bonus" that does not exists.

That is a possibility, but if it's all just a cheap attempt to get someone else to send him the necessary funds (something that he has already refuted), I seriously doubt it will work. The OP doesn't contain information such as a promise to pay back a part of the profit, which could lure someone into doing it.   

He or she could care less about your wagering tips, because he is just posting this to scam more people. I seriously doubt that he would take the time to read the ToS. 

Whether he does it or not, it's up to him. That's the only way he could see those funds move into his own wallet.

[Eureka_07]

<snip>
Unless a kind person was to give me the money to claim the wager (which I doubt will happen), I guess it will be gone within a week.
<snip>

If you are kinda sure that the casino will pay out your bonus balance, then probably it will be worth it to deposit and try to do their minimum requirements for you to be able to cash it out. I wouldn't suggest you to borrow money just for it tho, but it's a choice.

I never tried depositing on casinos that has deposit bonus so I can't really tell it is better on those that didn't offer the same bonus.

[RILWAN]

I will advise you never to make any deposit attempt because the bonus looks suspicious to me and look like a way to scam you, besides the site look new and without reputation so act with extreme care.

[dustboy]

Do not judge if we do not know the full terms and conditions related to the bonus. Every casino has their own terms about bonuses especially no deposit bonus. In this case we should know about the no deposit bonus which is taken by MNbag before judging the casino too far away without clear information.

What if he deposit a money on this site and turn into a scam? That bonus might be a click bait to attract more gambler but in reality they wont pay at all. I don't know, I just don't think an easy money like this will happen on a gambling site, not unless they really have this kind of promotion and it clearly says on their ToS. Don't be greedy, if you can't afford to deposit some money then that's ok, you can still have more bonusses on other site, there's a lot of options for this especially with a legit site that have a deposit bonus.

And what if the site is legit? We never know, even an old reputable site may turn into scam without any sign/notice. Come on dude, the problem in this case is not about the site is scam or not. It is about how to know how the bonus works, about the complete rules about the bonus. Before we take any bonus, we should read the whole terms. Once we take it, means we are accepting all the rules.

[noormcs5]

Do not judge if we do not know the full terms and conditions related to the bonus. Every casino has their own terms about bonuses especially no deposit bonus. In this case we should know about the no deposit bonus which is taken by MNbag before judging the casino too far away without clear information.

What if he deposit a money on this site and turn into a scam? That bonus might be a click bait to attract more gambler but in reality they wont pay at all. I don't know, I just don't think an easy money like this will happen on a gambling site, not unless they really have this kind of promotion and it clearly says on their ToS. Don't be greedy, if you can't afford to deposit some money then that's ok, you can still have more bonusses on other site, there's a lot of options for this especially with a legit site that have a deposit bonus.

And what if the site is legit? We never know, even an old reputable site may turn into scam without any sign/notice. Come on dude, the problem in this case is not about the site is scam or not. It is about how to know how the bonus works, about the complete rules about the bonus. Before we take any bonus, we should read the whole terms. Once we take it, means we are accepting all the rules.

No site gives free bonuses, there are always wagering requirements for using or cashing out the bonus. What benefit the site will get if they only give a deposit bonus, without having the users to deposit their own money.

As far as the legality of the site is concerned, i would not deposit 1000 Euro on a site which i have not known before. I would prefer to read their feedback on the neutral sites before thinking to play there.

[BitcoinAccepted]

No site gives free bonuses, there are always wagering requirements for using or cashing out the bonus. What benefit the site will get if they only give a deposit bonus, without having the users to deposit their own money.

As far as the legality of the site is concerned, i would not deposit 1000 Euro on a site which i have not known before. I would prefer to read their feedback on the neutral sites before thinking to play there.

I could not agree more with you. Bonuses may be used as strategy to lure players into actually engaging with the casino, but more so to deposit and play in the casino as well. Bonuses are used as instruments to have a win-win situation in the for both the management and the players. So, it doesn’t really make sense that bonus is given without wagering requirements. This just proves that being familiar with TOS of the saint that we are eyeing to transact with is crucial.

[RILWAN]

Judging from the method of the site bonus conditions which is relatively high to what is obtainable here, how can a legitimate site ask a user to make deposits equivalent to the amount of bonus won to claim the bonus. The is a high chance of getting scammed at the end of the day.

[aleandromagno]

Judging from the method of the site bonus conditions which is relatively high to what is obtainable here, how can a legitimate site ask a user to make deposits equivalent to the amount of bonus won to claim the bonus. The is a high chance of getting scammed at the end of the day.

This does not necessarily mean that the website's intentions are wrong. Just like the welcome bonus, most new promotions (and possibly this one too) have a condition that in order to withdraw it, they must have a wagering minumum. Simply, the quickest and easiest solution would be to deposit that amount.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Do not judge if we do not know the full terms and conditions related to the bonus. Every casino has their own terms about bonuses especially no deposit bonus. In this case we should know about the no deposit bonus which is taken by MNbag before judging the casino too far away without clear information.

What if he deposit a money on this site and turn into a scam? That bonus might be a click bait to attract more gambler but in reality they wont pay at all. I don't know, I just don't think an easy money like this will happen on a gambling site, not unless they really have this kind of promotion and it clearly says on their ToS. Don't be greedy, if you can't afford to deposit some money then that's ok, you can still have more bonusses on other site, there's a lot of options for this especially with a legit site that have a deposit bonus.

And what if the site is legit? We never know, even an old reputable site may turn into scam without any sign/notice. Come on dude, the problem in this case is not about the site is scam or not. It is about how to know how the bonus works, about the complete rules about the bonus. Before we take any bonus, we should read the whole terms. Once we take it, means we are accepting all the rules.

No site gives free bonuses, there are always wagering requirements for using or cashing out the bonus. What benefit the site will get if they only give a deposit bonus, without having the users to deposit their own money.

As far as the legality of the site is concerned, i would not deposit 1000 Euro on a site which i have not known before. I would prefer to read their feedback on the neutral sites before thinking to play there.

Currently the lack of knowledge on the part of some terms and conditions makes many people confuse, the truth seems to me a lot of money 1000 Euros for it, even if you have very good comments, at first the wager can be very demanding to be carried out However, an opportunity of that style is worth it to be able to test it if the wager is at least 1x, I think that with the minimum amount is enough, the best casinos or betting platforms give that type of requirement and thus protect both , both the casino and the customer.

[South Park]

Managed to be very lucky at ClubRiches and got 1000 Euros.

Only one problem: It is stuck behind a wager wall.



They don't count wagering your bonus as wagering in total, so it is stuck here.



Unless a kind person was to give me the money to claim the wager (which I doubt will happen), I guess it will be gone within a week.

Godammit.  

Guess the lesson I learnt is deposit bonuses are better than no deposit bonuses.

Can you provude the ToS for that promotion. How the heck you manage to wager the bonus while you don't have any deposit on that casino? On what kind of promotion you get that bonus money? It seems a very weird promotion to let user play using the bonus while they will not let the user withdraw unless he will deposit same amount of money. I think that's very suspicious same with the casino indicated on the screenshot.

You should not be able to play unless you will the minimum requirements to get that particular bonus. Just a hunch but the casino is very shady. Keep away.

It is rare but some casinos offer something like this, however as you may guess if you read the TOS the waging requirements you need to go through to be able to get that money out of the casino are very hard to accomplish, so in most cases unless you are incredibly lucky when you are gambling with that money it does not really make sense at all to try to fulfill the requirements, which means the casino does not really lose anything when making a promotion like this.

[panjul07]

Judging from the method of the site bonus conditions which is relatively high to what is obtainable here, how can a legitimate site ask a user to make deposits equivalent to the amount of bonus won to claim the bonus. The is a high chance of getting scammed at the end of the day.

Where did you find this information? Did OP tell you that the site ask him to deposit equivalent amount of the bonus won?
Are you making a speculation because you see the image where it shows the wagering requirement?
There is no information by OP or in the site like your speculation, so you get it wrong IMO.

[Johnyz]

Judging from the method of the site bonus conditions which is relatively high to what is obtainable here, how can a legitimate site ask a user to make deposits equivalent to the amount of bonus won to claim the bonus. The is a high chance of getting scammed at the end of the day.

Where did you find this information? Did OP tell you that the site ask him to deposit equivalent amount of the bonus won?
Are you making a speculation because you see the image where it shows the wagering requirement?
There is no information by OP or in the site like your speculation, so you get it wrong IMO.

The site is asking to wager but I don’t know how much and this is kinda normal for a new site to ask players to wager first before they get the bonus because there is no such thing as a total free in crypto gambling, I mean you have to spend first before receiving the reward. There are also a chance to get scammed especially if the bonus can’t be withdrawn, very risky on the part of gamblers.

[Slow death]

It's the first time I see this site and this kind of promotion (well I hope no one laughs at me for that) and I wouldn't use this site, anyway how would anyone guarantee that this site will pay this bonus amount? have you seen how many people who have received this bonus? I also think it's very risky to make a large deposit of money on this site so I hope you don't use this site to get this bonus and don't make big deposits on this site

[crzy]

It's the first time I see this site and this kind of promotion (well I hope no one laughs at me for that) and I wouldn't use this site, anyway how would anyone guarantee that this site will pay this bonus amount? have you seen how many people who have received this bonus? I also think it's very risky to make a large deposit of money on this site so I hope you don't use this site to get this bonus and don't make big deposits on this site

That’s a huge bonus reward and most of the time it really requires you to wage some money if the minimum wage is low, then I guess OP can try to wage but if the site is asking for the same amount as bonus, I believe its too risky to try and I’s rather not to this than to lose money, be careful on putting money on any site you have to research first.

[tulusikhlas]

It's the first time I see this site and this kind of promotion (well I hope no one laughs at me for that) and I wouldn't use this site, anyway how would anyone guarantee that this site will pay this bonus amount? have you seen how many people who have received this bonus? I also think it's very risky to make a large deposit of money on this site so I hope you don't use this site to get this bonus and don't make big deposits on this site

That’s a huge bonus reward and most of the time it really requires you to wage some money if the minimum wage is low, then I guess OP can try to wage but if the site is asking for the same amount as bonus, I believe its too risky to try and I’s rather not to this than to lose money, be careful on putting money on any site you have to research first.

I think the OP should avoid this site, however the bonus is feared that it will only be used as an inducement for the OP to make a deposit and after that will have complicated withdrawal problems. So instead of making a deposit of the same amount as the bonus he got, it would be better if the OP avoided the site sooner. After this thread is posted and it's been dragged for more than 1 week then the OP can give an answer of what we want to know. Has the OP been making a deposit all this time or not? because after all this site seems to be tricking its users.

[South Park]

It's the first time I see this site and this kind of promotion (well I hope no one laughs at me for that) and I wouldn't use this site, anyway how would anyone guarantee that this site will pay this bonus amount? have you seen how many people who have received this bonus? I also think it's very risky to make a large deposit of money on this site so I hope you don't use this site to get this bonus and don't make big deposits on this site

That’s a huge bonus reward and most of the time it really requires you to wage some money if the minimum wage is low, then I guess OP can try to wage but if the site is asking for the same amount as bonus, I believe its too risky to try and I’s rather not to this than to lose money, be careful on putting money on any site you have to research first.

This seems awfully similar to those airdrops that we see in which in order to receive some coins you need to deposit some money in the wallet of the developers so they send your coins and then you never see that money again, now I am not saying that this is 100% a scam or anything like that but it should be suspicious enough for people to be on their toes when an offer like this is being pushed by any casino, as it is rare to receive bonuses without making a deposit first.