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December 12, 2021, 11:15:53 PM
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YOSHIE is a pretty solid member so I trust his words. I wouldn't play in this casino.
I'm sure they will not block your account if they know you come to review and test the site but now that they know it, and you posted your experience here, they unblock your account, so what about the other who will play that does not have an account here in Bitcointalk, it's good that they are exposed this early to avoid members of this forum from trying the site.

Agree that it is quite a strange situation that YOSHII's account has been blocked twice. However, this is only one such case. I think it is too early to make such serious accusations of scam. After all, it could be just a coincidence (I admit it's strange, but it's still not clear evidence).

I don't like the legal threat that they post after an account was blocked they should just mention the reason why the account was blocked and the remedies not threatening with a legal suit, this is actually a project worthy of a thread in the scam accusation, they may have not yet scam people, but there's a warning sign already, we should be wary of the signs, we are talking of depositing money, if we are going to deposit money they should have 100% of our trust.


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December 12, 2021, 11:37:53 PM
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YOSHIE is a pretty solid member so I trust his words. I wouldn't play in this casino.
I'm sure they will not block your account if they know you come to review and test the site but now that they know it, and you posted your experience here, they unblock your account, so what about the other who will play that does not have an account here in Bitcointalk, it's good that they are exposed this early to avoid members of this forum from trying the site.

Agree that it is quite a strange situation that YOSHII's account has been blocked twice. However, this is only one such case. I think it is too early to make such serious accusations of scam. After all, it could be just a coincidence (I admit it's strange, but it's still not clear evidence).

I don't like the legal threat that they post after an account was blocked they should just mention the reason why the account was blocked and the remedies not threatening with a legal suit, this is actually a project worthy of a thread in the scam accusation, they may have not yet scam people, but there's a warning sign already, we should be wary of the signs, we are talking of depositing money, if we are going to deposit money they should have 100% of our trust.

I agree that these are very strong words and in my opinion they are also completely inadequate to the situation. It is possible, however, that this is due to the fact that it is not a professional translation. It's possible that in Japanese this information is more diplomatic, and just the translation made it so "brute".

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December 13, 2021, 07:21:01 PM
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Seems to me they can't afford to pay the winners. You are a good customer as long as you are losing money but god forbid if you somehow managed to win, then... KYC AML FBI AMC GME bam they'll throw everything they got. A trusted casino don't act this way. Only scammers do.

YOSHIE is a pretty solid member so I trust his words. I wouldn't play in this casino.

I don't want to defend them, because the situation is quite strange indeed. If an account was blocked only once, I would say it could have been a coincidence, but two blockades in such a short time make it a very seriously suspicious situation. Of course, it could still be a coincidence and they were actually just mistakes, but anyway it certainly makes me not make any deposit here.
They should prove out that it was something a mistake or really have some legit issues on such blockage and not just doing that intentionally or else they would be fucking up their reputation on first time they had launched on here.

Every gambling site does start on being new and possibly could face up some issues initially and lets just wait on how they would
try to vlarify things up.

Even myself would really have doubts on making out deposits even though this one looks interesting.

The website is not new, as it is said that it has been running for about a year and a half, so such errors should not happen. If any sensors are too fragile, they should be fixed a long time ago. Two blockades in such a short time are a very strange coincidence. Every gambler likes risk, but using this website makes the risk of losing money extremely high.

it was mentioned that this game is played in japan only before it is introduced internationally. so there maybe bugs or issues that need to be fixed and the OP said that it has been fixed already. so in case, they should refund yoshie's funds at the very least. but don't know how their support is acting on this matter. for now, i think even if this game is quite interesting as we are seeing a new game, better let it go for the moment, let the site established its reputation first. but if you do want to try it out, just send small amt of funds so you will not be disappointed if you encounter problems here
They should settle those issues first before proceeding because leaving pending issues or complaints would totally be making your site or business to be looking badly which it isnt really good for a business to have.

Later on the should fixed all the necessary things to give out good and smooth user experience if they do really like to get some marketshare on this place.

Since they are going for international then they should be aware on it at least.

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December 13, 2021, 10:59:24 PM
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Seems to me they can't afford to pay the winners. You are a good customer as long as you are losing money but god forbid if you somehow managed to win, then... KYC AML FBI AMC GME bam they'll throw everything they got. A trusted casino don't act this way. Only scammers do.

YOSHIE is a pretty solid member so I trust his words. I wouldn't play in this casino.

I don't want to defend them, because the situation is quite strange indeed. If an account was blocked only once, I would say it could have been a coincidence, but two blockades in such a short time make it a very seriously suspicious situation. Of course, it could still be a coincidence and they were actually just mistakes, but anyway it certainly makes me not make any deposit here.
They should prove out that it was something a mistake or really have some legit issues on such blockage and not just doing that intentionally or else they would be fucking up their reputation on first time they had launched on here.

Every gambling site does start on being new and possibly could face up some issues initially and lets just wait on how they would
try to vlarify things up.

Even myself would really have doubts on making out deposits even though this one looks interesting.

The website is not new, as it is said that it has been running for about a year and a half, so such errors should not happen. If any sensors are too fragile, they should be fixed a long time ago. Two blockades in such a short time are a very strange coincidence. Every gambler likes risk, but using this website makes the risk of losing money extremely high.

it was mentioned that this game is played in japan only before it is introduced internationally. so there maybe bugs or issues that need to be fixed and the OP said that it has been fixed already. so in case, they should refund yoshie's funds at the very least. but don't know how their support is acting on this matter. for now, i think even if this game is quite interesting as we are seeing a new game, better let it go for the moment, let the site established its reputation first. but if you do want to try it out, just send small amt of funds so you will not be disappointed if you encounter problems here
They should settle those issues first before proceeding because leaving pending issues or complaints would totally be making your site or business to be looking badly which it isnt really good for a business to have.

Later on the should fixed all the necessary things to give out good and smooth user experience if they do really like to get some marketshare on this place.

Since they are going for international then they should be aware on it at least.

since the OP is not the direct owner of this gaming site, hard to get direct answers from the developers of this game. so if the OP wants to continue promoting this site, i believe it is better for him to ask them to create an official account in the forum. otherwise, i don't think complaining here or raising issues would be a productive one as the OP may just be relaying message to them.
direct communication to the site owners is still a better way to address issues and concerns.

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December 14, 2021, 10:09:14 AM
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Seems interesting and unique, would appreciate if there would be some simple 'how to' information posted on the website for general public to get the overall idea of the game. Do you plan to add more crypto? How can I validate the fairness of game? Also a community chat groups like telegram and discord where players can interact with each other would be nice to have.
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December 14, 2021, 10:53:22 AM
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YOSHIE is a pretty solid member so I trust his words. I wouldn't play in this casino.
I'm sure they will not block your account if they know you come to review and test the site but now that they know it, and you posted your experience here, they unblock your account, so what about the other who will play that does not have an account here in Bitcointalk, it's good that they are exposed this early to avoid members of this forum from trying the site.
If you missed the post couple above you then i will quote it for you mate so the OP explanation and proofs are posted above , and also for others to take a chance looking so clarity will come.



As you can here, it’s my new account. I played about ten matches (exactly 13 games) and I won 599 SATOSHI in total (with victories and defeats).





Now, I ask for a withdraw to my real bitcoin cash wallet. I created a new to be sure because I would like to be like a new member.









And as you can see, some time later, I received my 599 SATOSHI to my real bitcoin cash wallet!!!!





You can see by yourself the transaction here on the official bitcoin cash blockchain network. Here is the transaction : https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/4176ce48285ca4b81ddcff0bb6c592e0921598a694d71508e8fe54b5373f7e34





And here is the email that the game sends after each withdraw request



So now, where is the scam with this free bitcoin game ? It's the same regardless of the amount in bitcoin cash.

In conclusion, I didn't pay any bitcoin (because it's a free game!), I played only with free offered satoshi and won 599 SATOSHI in total of bitcoin cash and I withdrew it into my bitcoin cash wallet. I received it and you have the proof on the official bitcoin cash blockchain network that I received these 599 satoshi. I have made many withdrawals and I have received them all. It's the same for all of my friends who play at this game here in Japan. They make withdrawals with much larger amounts such as 5,000 yen ¥ = $50 or 10,000 yen ¥ = $100 without any problems!

Now with this solid evidence, please explain to me where the scam is with this game? Is this game a scam? NO! You have to pay NOTHING to play at this game, it’s a free bitcoin game and you can withdraw you wins to your real bitcoin cash wallet. I'm going to be crazy, in what language should I say it? Maybe in Japanese ? lol Grin このゲームのどこに詐欺があるのか

maybe this part can explain something that others missed to check.
but of course the thing between Yoshie and the site must be cleared and settled in right manner.

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December 14, 2021, 07:58:51 PM
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since the OP is not the direct owner of this gaming site, hard to get direct answers from the developers of this game. so if the OP wants to continue promoting this site, i believe it is better for him to ask them to create an official account in the forum. otherwise, i don't think complaining here or raising issues would be a productive one as the OP may just be relaying message to them.
direct communication to the site owners is still a better way to address issues and concerns.
You are definitely right on this one.We dont know if this one is the part of the team or simply just passing on those informations on this forum

on which it would really be that much of relevant on making out complaints because this wouldnt change nothing but if he's the owner

or part of it then he is at least aware on what people been babbling and been complaining here all about.

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