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Question: If the signature campaings are removed from the forum, will you stay or leave?
I will leave. - 4 (5.5%)
I will stay, No change. - 23 (31.5%)
I will stay but less active. - 35 (47.9%)
I don't care about signaures - 9 (12.3%)
I'm just a bounty hunter... - 2 (2.7%)
Total Voters: 73

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December 07, 2021, 10:57:04 AM
Merited by hugeblack (6), vapourminer (2), Shamm (1)
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I've been off any paid sig. campaigns since May but I'm still here, not active as before but that's nothing to do with the signature campaigns, just life.

So if the campaigns are gone, what you gonna do?

Since the poll is anonymous, you can really vote what you think is your case Smiley

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December 07, 2021, 11:28:11 AM
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I've been off any paid sig. campaigns since May but I'm still here, not active as before but that's nothing to do with the signature campaigns, just life.

So if the campaigns are gone, what are you gonna do?

Since the poll is anonymous, you can vote what you think is your case Smiley
Honestly
For me, I'm gonna stay here,
We all know that through campaigns we can earn money but what I think is that this forum gives me a lot of knowledge not just in Bitcoins but in the world of crypto. I treasure every minute here in the bitcointalk forum cause when I entered here I don't have any Little knowledge about currencies
Also, I encounter different people around the globe I meet some friends and I'm happy about it I encountered different kinds of attitudes some are generous, helpful, extrovert users, and some of them Little bit strict. But all in all, I like everyone here in the forum.
So there's no reason why I leave.
Good job buddy nice Thread.

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December 07, 2021, 12:38:54 PM
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I am feel stupid, I clicked the first one without reading properly. I saw the word "stay" on the second and third line" and totally didn't notice I clicked "leave" for the first option until the poll showed the results.

I didn't join for signature campaigns, so I won't leave because of them either.

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December 07, 2021, 12:55:54 PM
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Despite wearing a paid signature at the moment, there were certain periods that I was just wearing my own signature [not a paid one], so I'm not going to leave but without those, the overall activity on this forum would probably go down significantly, hence why I voted for the third option [e.g. fewer threads and etc...].
- That'd also lead to less spam, so it's not that bad Smiley

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December 07, 2021, 12:58:12 PM
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I am here to stay, I learnt a lot from the forum to be honest which is not anything technical but even I got the better vision about what is money and why we all stuck in the middle class life forever no matter how hard we are working. Its great to be here with community all around the world meanwhile we also can see lot of veterans leave the forum which is not actually anything to do with the signature but for their personal reasons.

But do you think anyone who will vote for I am only here for signature campaign will leave a reply here? I don't think so. Grin

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December 07, 2021, 01:10:37 PM
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I will go and leave all the memories here, for sure, some of the earnings for the forum and maintenance and so on, obtained from advertising campaigns, maybe the forum can't be accessed anymore, because it can't advertise anymore or maintenance funds.

The problem here is: the forum teaches a lot about Bitcoin and crypto, the campaigns here are all crypto-related, gambling needs crypto, buy/sell stuff with crypto, everything here is crypto, crypto and crypto, so removing the campaign means removing Bitcoin and crypto, what are forums and communities for, obviously better to just go.

The forum is growing as it is today because people are interested in Bitcoin and crypto, competing to promote campaigns/advertising about Bitcoin and crypto.
Fred, Chris Larsen, Cameron, Tyler Winklevoss, Jed McCaleb, they all wouldn't be billionaires and rich, without Bitcoin, campaigns, forums and crypto.

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December 07, 2021, 01:21:40 PM
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When I joined forum, I didn't even knew what is signature campaign. My first thought when I heard tthis term for the first time was that someone is paying for signing in various petitions or something similar Cheesy.
So, I didn't joined Bitcointalk for signature campaigns and I definitely wouldn't leave if it would removed. When I wasn't in sig. campaign, I simply wear my own not paid signature and I didn't even become less active.
Though, it's possible that without paid signature I would a bit less active, but I doubt that change would be significant. On the other hand, if most members would become less active then, automatically it would mean that we would have less active topics where we can comment, answer questions, share knowledge and so on.

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I didn't join for signature campaigns, so I won't leave because of them either.
Same here, and with the exception of a handful of members, I think we're a dying breed on the forum.  Fortunately there have been some new members that, regardless of their motivation for being here, have been excellent contributors to bitcointalk.  So even if someone is here strictly for the money, that doesn't mean they fall into the typical bounty-hunting, shitposter, zero-value class.

I've grown attached to this forum over the years, so there's no way I'd give it up just because signature campaigns went away--which doesn't seem to be an option in Theymos's mind in any case.  But I bet there would be a massive efflux of members if that happened, and that makes me wonder what would happen to the merit system and my role as a merit source.  There wouldn't be any incentive for members to rank up aside from status, which means there probably wouldn't be any threads about how to earn merits or even as much general interest in doing so.

And that's just one consideration; I think this place would look completely different if campaigns and bounties were suddenly outlawed.  It was an active forum prior to the first campaign, but I think that was due to bitcoin being a very new thing.  Now that it's matured quite a bit and given the fact that many members are here just to participate in bounties/campaigns, I'd expect bitcointalk to become almost a ghost town.  Hopefully that won't be tested anytime soon.

I would be grateful if someone says that I am not paranoid and do not live in a parallel universe [Pointing to these threads].
Don't know if you're paranoid or not (since I don't know you IRL), but you're not in a parallel universe that I know of.  Yes, this has been discussed before but I think it's been at least 5 months since we had a thread like this.  Maybe a little less; I lose track of time when it comes to this forum.

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December 07, 2021, 02:56:32 PM
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I have no doubts about that, of course I would still stay on the forum, because it's not all about money, despite the fact that some think that this forum is a place where people post just to make money. I know that some will say that people in sig campaigns are hypocrites who say one thing and do another, but I can say that so far I have not spent a single satoshi from the CM campaign in which I have been since December 7, 2018 - exactly three years Smiley

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I would stay on the forum, but I would post a lot more in the WO thread and a lot less in the rest of the forum, spending less time overall. Getting paid incentivizes you to write, and getting paid well, more so. I think you would notice a drop in posts from the better paid members of the forum, and I'm not just talking about the CM campaign.

I edit to say one thing I forgot: if paid signatures would disappear, and the moderation policy of the forum would be the same, looking for quality, we could clearly say: bye bye Bitcointalk. I think that for the forum to have life after removing the paid signatures, it should be possible to post in the whole forum as in the WO thread.

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December 07, 2021, 03:07:05 PM
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IMO, I will stay, no change but less post.

I like reading comments and various personal arguments in the forum but I don't have the guts to interact with discussion.  It's maybe rare to reply to those threads but I always visit those kinds of threads (arguments) and next in the technical Bitcoin discussion board but again, I'm just reading comments and that sort of obtaining knowledge with those replies from experts, especially those members who are fluent to speak in English (there are many of them here).  It seems like I'm more in reading than posting, so, if signature campaigns are removed doesn't matter to me because I'm here to learn, and earning isn't my first priority.  

If the signature campaigns are removed from the forum and it might those banner ads will disappear too?  Cheesy  If so, how will the forum survive.

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December 07, 2021, 03:33:16 PM
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Almost everyone are here for the money. If the signature campaigns and the bounties are gone for lets say a year, you'll see the real face of many that pretend they care about the forum. The signature benefits were supposed to be some beer money for the time people spent and enjoy here but the greed has turn this into a business.
 
I choose option 2. Even if the campaigns are gone nothing will change for me. I haven't participated Ina signature campaign yet but not for my lack of trying. I am still here doing what I can to develop my knowledge in crypto. I agree with @Beardedbaby if campaigns and bounties are gone we would see less spammers, less merit hunting posts but I think it will kill the fun of the forum. The newbies who were motivated to join the forum because they could earn money will leave only the old timers will remain and a few who really want to maximize the knowledge available here.
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December 07, 2021, 03:39:15 PM
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i'm not a hypocrite, if there is no signature campaign then i will still be on the forum but the frequency will decrease....i have an offline job and my main income is not from this forum, i think the pay from the signature campaign is just a motivation to make quality posts here.

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December 07, 2021, 04:00:07 PM
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I chose the third option – I will stay but likely post less. And that will be whenever I've data to do so. It takes data to be on the internet and where I come from data cost money. However, hypothetically, I know I will miss the forum the few times I would stay away as here has become almost like a second home to me. This is the place I've learnt virtually everything and anything that I've come to know in the world of cryptocurrency.


but I can say that so far I have not spent a single satoshi from the CM campaign in which I have been since December 7, 2018 - exactly three years Smiley
Wow! That's a great feat, you know. Three years running without taking out a sat from that payment isn't a mean feat. This should be a celebratory anniversary. If you've two glasses to spare; I can bring a bottle of red wine over for celebration. Kudos, man.

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December 07, 2021, 04:16:15 PM
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Honest answer.

I'm already posting less despite being in a high paying campaign (Chipmixer). So if sig campaigns were to stop then nothing would really change in my behavior.

It's because when work catches up to you, you don't really feel in the mood for much talking as you used to anymore.



An inverse correlation I also notice is that the more you are involved in pull requests and mailing lists for bitcoin projects, the less you feel like posting here.

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December 07, 2021, 04:21:49 PM
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Most people should have voted for "will stay but less active". I would be the same. I may visit the forum everyday and read some good threads but won't be posting much. It's not only if signature camps doesn’t exist, it's same for me all the time. Maybe I'm posting much when I'm in a campaign because it has a certain requirements.
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Personally, I didn't join the forum to make money, but it ended up turning into that. I attribute being so well known on this forum because of campaigns. I don't feel like I would visit the forum much if signature campaigns went away even though I don't manage them much any longer. I do have a pretty decent income from wearing a signature though.

I find nothing wrong with users making money here. Hell, the admins are making a pretty penny weekly on advertising. Why would they ever want to try and cut out the smaller guy?

Let's say they stop allowing signatures, what would be the backlash of that? Well for starters, forum traffic drops by 90%. That means forum ads lose their appeal to businesses. Also leading to no income for the forum, ultimately leading to the forum closing down after a period of time. That's what I think would happen anyways. There will be a few happy members of course, but there will be no reason to keep the forum open for the 100 or so users left.

 The issue IMO is the poor quality of the posters in these campaigns. That's really on the manager. If you have a poor quality poster, then remove them and let someone worthy take their place. I have been guilty of letting douchebags in a campaign because I had a large number of open spots, so maybe I have no room to talk but I can acknowledge the problem and do my part in fixing it.


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December 07, 2021, 05:18:42 PM
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When I joined this forum 7 years ago I hardly knew anything about bitcoin and even less about signature campaigns  Grin
In the meantime, I learned a lot about crypto, made some friends, met some of them in person, and earned something through the signature campaigns, which is not so bad after all for one forum.
I’ve been active on a lot of other forums in the past but I’ve gotten a lot less than here.
For me, this forum is perfect because I can talk to friends, find out about some new and interesting crypto projects, discuss sports topics and for what I would do anyway, writing posts, I can earn some btc.
If the campaign signatures are removed I would stay on this forum but I would probably be a little less active.


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Probably going to stay because even if I don’t have an active signature campaign, I post instill read some topics of interest to me. I have learned so much here in the forum, so I don’t think I would ever stay away. Just less active in a total of activity. The most popular answer as well. I think a lot of people fell in love with the forum.

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December 07, 2021, 06:21:04 PM
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So if the campaigns are gone, what you gonna do?
I will surely stay but my activities would be reduced. At least the money paid through campaigns is obviously making this forum more active. The money might not worth anything for some people but it is actually worth something for some people and motivating them to post good. Taking myself as an example, I joined a campaign and the campaign want me to post good. I was posting good before even before joining any campaign on this forum, but I increased my posting quality and dedicate more time just to make sure I satisfy my campaign manager when also other forum members like people that post good anf I like posting good. That means it is a win-to-win.

What I just think is that my posting quality will not reduce, I will still stay but my activities might reduce.

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