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January 26, 2022, 09:07:59 PM
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Well, many casinos promote their services on this forum for a good reason, that is directly linked to the fact bitcointalk forum holds a lot of legitimacy and influence in crypto gambling industry. If a casino goes shady you can be sure it won't be forgotten on this forum and it will be also very clear for every gambler who might start reading some threads around.

In case of doubt, you can even tell your gambler friends who aren't members of this community to always search on google the name of the casino they are looking for and bitcointalk keyword together to find out if that is a good site to play or not.

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January 26, 2022, 11:34:57 PM
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Well, many casinos promote their services on this forum for a good reason, that is directly linked to the fact bitcointalk forum holds a lot of legitimacy and influence in crypto gambling industry. If a casino goes shady you can be sure it won't be forgotten on this forum and it will be also very clear for every gambler who might start reading some threads around.

In case of doubt, you can even tell your gambler friends who aren't members of this community to always search on google the name of the casino they are looking for and bitcointalk keyword together to find out if that is a good site to play or not.
One of the best things to be done first on which you do make out some research firdt before making any step specially if you are dealing on something new.If its been connected to crypto then this place or forum is a one stop shop on where you could really see real time feedbacks,recommendations or suggestions out of those real experiences thats why you cant really go wrong into this place but be sure that you do make yourself aware with fake info yet this place does also have lots.

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January 27, 2022, 02:37:00 PM
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Yep, it is a very useful platform to publicly expose those that are trying to scam people, and that includes such conditions that appear out of the blue, or are in the finest possible print and are aimed to make withdrawal expensive, painful and sometime simply impossible. I even wonder why would anyone go to play online with crypto and not bother too look into the number one resource for reputation checking.

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January 27, 2022, 04:22:20 PM
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Yep, it is a very useful platform to publicly expose those that are trying to scam people, and that includes such conditions that appear out of the blue, or are in the finest possible print and are aimed to make withdrawal expensive, painful and sometime simply impossible. I even wonder why would anyone go to play online with crypto and not bother too look into the number one resource for reputation checking.

That's simply because not everyone knows about this forum. Many people are not aware that there's a forum called bitcointalk created by Satoshi himself.
Also, there are some people aware of this forum yet look for places elsewhere to find reviews about casinos.
People keep asking where they can find out which is a good casino and ask for websites which provide casino reviews and bonus offers etc...

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January 27, 2022, 08:48:31 PM
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Yep, it is a very useful platform to publicly expose those that are trying to scam people, and that includes such conditions that appear out of the blue, or are in the finest possible print and are aimed to make withdrawal expensive, painful and sometime simply impossible. I even wonder why would anyone go to play online with crypto and not bother too look into the number one resource for reputation checking.

That's simply because not everyone knows about this forum. Many people are not aware that there's a forum called bitcointalk created by Satoshi himself.
Also, there are some people aware of this forum yet look for places elsewhere to find reviews about casinos.
People keep asking where they can find out which is a good casino and ask for websites which provide casino reviews and bonus offers etc...
All matters on someones awareness because there are people who do really keep on researching up things until they do find out the right place to ask and consider on reading up real time reviews
and recommendations and its true that not all is totally aware of this forums existence on which they would really be mainly looking various informations of things on social media or in other
forums or other places which i couldnt say that it could really be trusted but on the time that you had been redirected into this forum then for sure you would really get information
from real experiences and dealing which you could really decide whether you should proceed on or not basing on what you have read on.

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January 27, 2022, 09:14:39 PM
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Yep, it is a very useful platform to publicly expose those that are trying to scam people, and that includes such conditions that appear out of the blue, or are in the finest possible print and are aimed to make withdrawal expensive, painful and sometime simply impossible. I even wonder why would anyone go to play online with crypto and not bother too look into the number one resource for reputation checking.

That's simply because not everyone knows about this forum. Many people are not aware that there's a forum called bitcointalk created by Satoshi himself.
Also, there are some people aware of this forum yet look for places elsewhere to find reviews about casinos.
People keep asking where they can find out which is a good casino and ask for websites which provide casino reviews and bonus offers etc...
^ But why did we see most scenarios when they were scammed they found this forum created a thread here on Bitcointalk? Sounds funny right?
The problem of most gamblers and probably those who are not aware of scams do not make any dip research but when they get scammed, that is the time they will dig research about the casino. However, we are so lucky here because we are oriented to such possible scams and we know how to determine legit casinos.
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January 28, 2022, 09:59:34 AM
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Articles are always sponsored but the way they are sponsored may differ. For example, some sites are affiliated with a casino, while others may simply write a review and be paid a fixed amount. Anyway, most articles are biased. However, I don't think that this is too bad. With this unbeatable long-term house edge, most casinos work transparently, meaning they don't have to cheat gamblers as they know that a gambler will lose all he has invested in gambling on the long distance.

No, of course articles are not always sponsored. Firstly, there are honest journalists for whom telling the truth is more important than earning big money. They may be in the minority, but they exist. Secondly, in some cases being honest is profitable. You are getting more visitors to your site when there's talk that your info is always legit. Thirdly, even when being paid by a company, some journalists still may write unbiased articles. The problem is that you never know what kind of reporter wrote the article you are reading. Here on this forum you can read the reaction of other members and make your own conclusions, while in other places comments can be moderated without you knowing it.

I would rather agree with milka, I have never seen an unbiased journalist regardless of the niche he or she is working at. Even if they seem to be unbiased, they have an idea that they want to apply or they are paid to push a particular idea.


Well, look at us, bitcointalk members wearing signatures and/or avatars advertising this or that company. Of course we are paid for that, but do we write everything to advertise the sponsor? Far from that. Check it out yourself. Let me assure you that it's possible in some cases to be paid and stay not biased at the same time. If you mean most of the journalists are biased, then I agree. I just don't like generalizations. I mean, not all bitcointalkers, even those with no ad in their signature, are good, and not all journalists, even those sponsored by corporations, are bad, or, biased, if you want. Smiley

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January 28, 2022, 10:16:46 AM
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Articles are always sponsored but the way they are sponsored may differ. For example, some sites are affiliated with a casino, while others may simply write a review and be paid a fixed amount. Anyway, most articles are biased. However, I don't think that this is too bad. With this unbeatable long-term house edge, most casinos work transparently, meaning they don't have to cheat gamblers as they know that a gambler will lose all he has invested in gambling on the long distance.

No, of course articles are not always sponsored. Firstly, there are honest journalists for whom telling the truth is more important than earning big money. They may be in the minority, but they exist. Secondly, in some cases being honest is profitable. You are getting more visitors to your site when there's talk that your info is always legit. Thirdly, even when being paid by a company, some journalists still may write unbiased articles. The problem is that you never know what kind of reporter wrote the article you are reading. Here on this forum you can read the reaction of other members and make your own conclusions, while in other places comments can be moderated without you knowing it.

I would rather agree with milka, I have never seen an unbiased journalist regardless of the niche he or she is working at. Even if they seem to be unbiased, they have an idea that they want to apply or they are paid to push a particular idea.


Well, look at us, bitcointalk members wearing signatures and/or avatars advertising this or that company. Of course we are paid for that, but do we write everything to advertise the sponsor? Far from that. Check it out yourself. Let me assure you that it's possible in some cases to be paid and stay not biased at the same time. If you mean most of the journalists are biased, then I agree. I just don't like generalizations. I mean, not all bitcointalkers, even those with no ad in their signature, are good, and not all journalists, even those sponsored by corporations, are bad, or, biased, if you want. Smiley
That's it , we are only wearing the companies signature and we are having theit avatar banner but this does not mean that we will shill for them or even to defend them in case that they have cases here.
of course we will still stand on what is right and not because we are being paid to depend them.
this is how Bitcointalk moves , and not just for something that only proprietors will benefits, we wanted to gain our own reputation as advertisers .

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January 28, 2022, 06:19:08 PM
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Articles are always sponsored but the way they are sponsored may differ. For example, some sites are affiliated with a casino, while others may simply write a review and be paid a fixed amount. Anyway, most articles are biased. However, I don't think that this is too bad. With this unbeatable long-term house edge, most casinos work transparently, meaning they don't have to cheat gamblers as they know that a gambler will lose all he has invested in gambling on the long distance.

No, of course articles are not always sponsored. Firstly, there are honest journalists for whom telling the truth is more important than earning big money. They may be in the minority, but they exist. Secondly, in some cases being honest is profitable. You are getting more visitors to your site when there's talk that your info is always legit. Thirdly, even when being paid by a company, some journalists still may write unbiased articles. The problem is that you never know what kind of reporter wrote the article you are reading. Here on this forum you can read the reaction of other members and make your own conclusions, while in other places comments can be moderated without you knowing it.

I would rather agree with milka, I have never seen an unbiased journalist regardless of the niche he or she is working at. Even if they seem to be unbiased, they have an idea that they want to apply or they are paid to push a particular idea.


Well, look at us, bitcointalk members wearing signatures and/or avatars advertising this or that company. Of course we are paid for that, but do we write everything to advertise the sponsor? Far from that. Check it out yourself. Let me assure you that it's possible in some cases to be paid and stay not biased at the same time. If you mean most of the journalists are biased, then I agree. I just don't like generalizations. I mean, not all bitcointalkers, even those with no ad in their signature, are good, and not all journalists, even those sponsored by corporations, are bad, or, biased, if you want. Smiley
That's it , we are only wearing the companies signature and we are having theit avatar banner but this does not mean that we will shill for them or even to defend them in case that they have cases here.
of course we will still stand on what is right and not because we are being paid to depend them.
this is how Bitcointalk moves , and not just for something that only proprietors will benefits, we wanted to gain our own reputation as advertisers .
We aren't that dumb on making out actions and we know on whats wrong and whats right.There would be no tolerance into those services/companies/platforms which do things which aren't right.

Of course we are the ones who would really be criticizing them and we could freely leave our spots in case we do see some shady activity from the site.We don't really like to mess up our reputation or

simply our account for just some small amount of bucks.So that would really be an standard thing to be done.

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January 31, 2022, 09:52:01 PM
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Yep, it is a very useful platform to publicly expose those that are trying to scam people, and that includes such conditions that appear out of the blue, or are in the finest possible print and are aimed to make withdrawal expensive, painful and sometime simply impossible. I even wonder why would anyone go to play online with crypto and not bother too look into the number one resource for reputation checking.

That's simply because not everyone knows about this forum. Many people are not aware that there's a forum called bitcointalk created by Satoshi himself.
Also, there are some people aware of this forum yet look for places elsewhere to find reviews about casinos.
People keep asking where they can find out which is a good casino and ask for websites which provide casino reviews and bonus offers etc...
^ But why did we see most scenarios when they were scammed they found this forum created a thread here on Bitcointalk? Sounds funny right?
The problem of most gamblers and probably those who are not aware of scams do not make any dip research but when they get scammed, that is the time they will dig research about the casino. However, we are so lucky here because we are oriented to such possible scams and we know how to determine legit casinos.
Well it is not rare at all for people to put the cart before the horse, after all how many people we see in this market thinking that the moment to make profits is when you sell when in fact whether or not you can me profits is most of the time determined by the moment and price at which you buy.

So this is the same, instead of doing their due diligence first and saving themselves a lot of headaches people just gamble in whatever casino they fancy only to begin to make their research once they have been scammed.

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That's it , we are only wearing the companies signature and we are having theit avatar banner but this does not mean that we will shill for them or even to defend them in case that they have cases here.
of course we will still stand on what is right and not because we are being paid to depend them.
this is how Bitcointalk moves , and not just for something that only proprietors will benefits, we wanted to gain our own reputation as advertisers .

Right, it's very different from what we can see is happening with brick and mortar companies and their employees. There if you say something good about the competitor, you are fired, in the majority of cases. And if you are not saying that the company you are working for is the best in the world all the time, you'll be fired soon too. Here, on the other hand, it's more like with ads on race cars: if you are paid for it, you wear the ad



but it's not like you should be saying all the time that Red Bull is the best brand of energy drinks in the world (although it might be true Smiley ).

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Well, look at us, bitcointalk members wearing signatures and/or avatars advertising this or that company. Of course we are paid for that, but do we write everything to advertise the sponsor? Far from that. Check it out yourself. Let me assure you that it's possible in some cases to be paid and stay not biased at the same time. If you mean most of the journalists are biased, then I agree. I just don't like generalizations. I mean, not all bitcointalkers, even those with no ad in their signature, are good, and not all journalists, even those sponsored by corporations, are bad, or, biased, if you want. Smiley
You mostly right, but there are some moments that can differ.
First of them is the reputation of the company. If the company is about scam - even the best of us can get negative trust and disapproval from other members. That`s why it is important(for me at least) to find a company with good repatation.
Second - when i found out bitcointalk - i thought that "hero" or "legendary" members wearing signatures of the projects they believe. In this way we are responsible to newbies that believe in signatures.

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Well, look at us, bitcointalk members wearing signatures and/or avatars advertising this or that company. Of course we are paid for that, but do we write everything to advertise the sponsor? Far from that. Check it out yourself. Let me assure you that it's possible in some cases to be paid and stay not biased at the same time. If you mean most of the journalists are biased, then I agree. I just don't like generalizations. I mean, not all bitcointalkers, even those with no ad in their signature, are good, and not all journalists, even those sponsored by corporations, are bad, or, biased, if you want. Smiley
You mostly right, but there are some moments that can differ.
First of them is the reputation of the company. If the company is about scam - even the best of us can get negative trust and disapproval from other members. That`s why it is important(for me at least) to find a company with good repatation.


The point you are stating (while its true) is different from what Betwrong mentioned.
You are correct that we might get negative trust if we promote a campaign whose owners are fraud and it makes sense because it will encourage more scam and as a candidate we should be aware of what we are promoting.
But at the same time the signature campaigns never mention that we should only speak good about the products we are promoting.
This eliminates biased judgements which was the point at the first place.

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Second - when i found out bitcointalk - i thought that "hero" or "legendary" members wearing signatures of the projects they believe. In this way we are responsible to newbies that believe in signatures.

That's an honest mistake  Tongue When I was a newbie I though it's just normal ads that get popped up on any website.
Little did I know they are signatures willingly worn by the users.

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The btt forum is another best way and good platform that will tell you more about any casino platform launched here through some expert and experience users. But to further more, did you really get their rules and regulation before enrolling?

Most of the platform who requested some deposit are likely to be scam, any legitimate platform does required deposit to get released your funds.
otherwise we can call it scam.

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February 02, 2022, 09:08:44 AM
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You mostly right, but there are some moments that can differ.
First of them is the reputation of the company. If the company is about scam - even the best of us can get negative trust and disapproval from other members. That`s why it is important(for me at least) to find a company with good repatation.

The point you are stating (while its true) is different from what Betwrong mentioned.
You are correct that we might get negative trust if we promote a campaign whose owners are fraud and it makes sense because it will encourage more scam and as a candidate we should be aware of what we are promoting.
But at the same time the signature campaigns never mention that we should only speak good about the products we are promoting.
This eliminates biased judgements which was the point at the first place.
It`s true, that we can right both good and bad things about companies we promote, but the same time i think that is bad idea to wear scam signature even if you are talking that this is scam.

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Second - when i found out bitcointalk - i thought that "hero" or "legendary" members wearing signatures of the projects they believe. In this way we are responsible to newbies that believe in signatures.

That's an honest mistake  Tongue When I was a newbie I though it's just normal ads that get popped up on any website.
Little did I know they are signatures willingly worn by the users.
And due this mistake we have a problem that i pointed in the first step: if a newbie see a hero member in the thread, and this member don`t telling in this thread that the company is scam - the newbie can believe in company.

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The btt forum is another best way and good platform that will tell you more about any casino platform launched here through some expert and experience users. But to further more, did you really get their rules and regulation before enrolling?

Most of the platform who requested some deposit are likely to be scam, any legitimate platform does required deposit to get released your funds.
otherwise we can call it scam.
yep, here we have more experience from veteran gamblers who have a lot of their experience and i believe in the advice given.  if you have problems playing on a gambling site then creating a topic on this forum will definitely have a big impact on the problems you are experiencing.  there are also many active crypto gambling sites that have a good reputation and are diligent online, so just choose a gambling site based on the reviews on this forum.

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I hope people don't get the Idea that posting their issue on a gambling site here in the forum will solve their problem. and most of the time, it won't. I don't deny that the(or a) forum can sometimes put pressure on a gambling site but overestimating the influence a forum can have on the decision of a gambling site on their issues can give someone a false sense of hope.

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I hope people don't get the Idea that posting their issue on a gambling site here in the forum will solve their problem. and most of the time, it won't. I don't deny that the(or a) forum can sometimes put pressure on a gambling site but overestimating the influence a forum can have on the decision of a gambling site on their issues can give someone a false sense of hope.

The problems depends,if it is a great casino with a lot of good reputation and if they are found to have made a mistake most likely they will remedy it.The problem is when people post their problems about a not well known casino and expect that opening a scam accusation against the scammers will solve their problem,it will not as the scammers only want to scam people but it will be really good in pointing out to a huge user base that play gambling with crypto to stay away from that casino.

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February 02, 2022, 10:47:17 PM
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I hope people don't get the Idea that posting their issue on a gambling site here in the forum will solve their problem. and most of the time, it won't.
Actually, posting in this thread can also help people who have some issues with a gambling platform, moreover if the gambling platform official team is also active right here, moreover doing some campaign right here.
It will ease people to reach them, moreover supported by string evidence, the members here will commonly help the user to rise up the case to their official.
But, of course, not all problems or accusations can be solved here. At least they can rise up their case at first. And commonly the team will follow up. ALthough it depends on the case and also on the team itself. BUt it sometimes helps.

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February 02, 2022, 11:21:05 PM
 #180

I hope people don't get the Idea that posting their issue on a gambling site here in the forum will solve their problem. and most of the time, it won't.
Actually, posting in this thread can also help people who have some issues with a gambling platform, moreover if the gambling platform official team is also active right here, moreover doing some campaign right here.
It will ease people to reach them, moreover supported by string evidence, the members here will commonly help the user to rise up the case to their official.
But, of course, not all problems or accusations can be solved here. At least they can rise up their case at first. And commonly the team will follow up. ALthough it depends on the case and also on the team itself. BUt it sometimes helps.

Most of the time it could really help out because the community would really make out some negative reactions which would really be affecting their reputation and if they dont want to be affected
then they would need for those issues to get resolved or else it would really be putting a stain in overall reputation that they do have and you couldnt really get go wrong
with this community because if they would really be smelling something shady then these reactions and impressions would spread like wildfire.
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