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Around 39 million options contracts have changed hands on an average day this year, up 35% from last year and the highest level ever, according to Options Clearing Corp. data as of the end of November. Retail traders recently made up around one-quarter of all options activity.

A quote from the article Investors Are Using Robinhood, Other Platforms to Jump Into Options Trades, Worrying U.S. Regulators

Robinhood is turning the new generation into gamblers and regulators are concerned because options trading is now preferred by the newer generations over stock trading or investing. We all know options trading is not investing because with options trading you are just betting what the price will be of a company's stock.

Regulators worry is that companies like Robinhood and Ameritrade easily approve users to gain access to options which makes the surge of these new gamblers. Retail investors are also enticed to join this frenzy because leverage is quite high while zero transaction fees.

Robinhood also offers crypto trading so I wonder if Bitcoin Futures & Options are also the most preferred today by the new generations of traders than on the spot market?


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December 12, 2021, 03:03:29 PM
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I can agree that the vast majority of them actually gamble with their money, because while we all know that crypto trading is very risky, and all these additional options raise the whole thing to an even higher level of risk. The possible profit is simply irresistible with a relatively small investment, and with all these stories that cryptocurrencies are some kind of magic money that makes you a millionaire overnight, I'm not surprised that younger generations see it as a great opportunity.

Consequently, there are understandable concerns from the relevant government agencies and the government of a particular country, because some people become addicted to such things and lose virtually everything they have and then becomes a problem for society. I am for everyone to be responsible for their actions and their money, but people who lose money in this way should take full responsibility for it and become aware of their actions.

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December 12, 2021, 03:07:24 PM
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Weren't casinos shut last year? And wallstreetbets rose up in popularity a bit (and there were probably a few other communities too that did).

I'm not sure if options also includes just using leverage too - that's the extent we have it too over here anyway.

If it's just trading with leverage, blind picks might not make you lose too much either (if you long something that normally goes up over time and don't have many fees to pay then)...
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December 12, 2021, 05:40:00 PM
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You always see gamblers or degens in any market. In crypto market, you have more because it is a more volatile market that satisfies need to gamble.

But don't turn yourself to be one of them. Do your own research and be knowledgeable investor.

Crypto market can make you rich if you can hold Bitcoin. I emphasize, hold Bitcoin and if you want to do investment in altcoins. Ethereum and BNB are my choices.
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Robinhood is turning the new generation into gamblers and regulators are concerned because options trading is now preferred by the newer generations over stock trading or investing. We all know options trading is not investing because with options trading you are just betting what the price will be of a company's stock.


LoL wat? Who decides that it is a gamble to buy options? If options investing is gambling, then everything is gambling. Buying stocks on spot is also gambling if you follow this same logic. Why would anybody care anyway if people want to gamble? It is their money and they can do whatever they want with it.

If trading options is gambling, so is buying stocks, so is starting your own business, so is eating outside.

When you own a company's stock, you still bet on the price of the company's stock. You want it to go higher. It is the same thing. (almost)

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December 12, 2021, 05:54:04 PM
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LoL wat? Who decides that it is a gamble to buy options? If options investing is gambling, then everything is gambling. Buying stocks on spot is also gambling if you follow this same logic. Why would anybody care anyway if people want to gamble? It is their money and they can do whatever they want with it.

If trading options is gambling, so is buying stocks, so is starting your own business, so is eating outside.

When you own a company's stock, you still bet on the price of the company's stock. You want it to go higher. It is the same thing. (almost)

I completely agree with what you say. Further I wanna add this that "in gambling a winner is the one who knows when to stop". People think that crypto is purely a gambling while stock is not. Its because in stock there is a physical company that stands before the share while in crypto there is no such thing. Someone please tell them there is huge crypto community standing behind BTC.

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December 12, 2021, 06:31:40 PM
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 It depends if they don't take it seriously, like what others lazy people doing nowadays in the space and complaining what results they all have after all. Lol , me personally i dont believe after how many years crypto investment will become too tough for others such new comers.because indeed all the information can be found easily in the internet..  So it depends if they will not invest time for it as well to study first in order to obtain specific information how crypto really works because that's the only key to become successful, it's all about knowledge to be honest..
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December 12, 2021, 08:25:45 PM
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I would agree that the people that I know trading in real life, they're exploring more with options since they think it's a way for them to become quickly wealthy.
We can't stop them until they realize that they've been hit hard and they've quickly losing money from it. But if they're good as the others who are making not just 10x but more than 100x then that's actually good for them.

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December 12, 2021, 09:07:59 PM
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You always see gamblers or degens in any market. In crypto market, you have more because it is a more volatile market that satisfies need to gamble.

But don't turn yourself to be one of them. Do your own research and be knowledgeable investor.

Crypto market can make you rich if you can hold Bitcoin. I emphasize, hold Bitcoin and if you want to do investment in altcoins. Ethereum and BNB are my choices.
This, it is not as if the stock market is safe either, there are penny stocks that are like the icos of this market in which you can invest in small companies and hope for big returns, it is true that we see a lot more people with those tendencies here and mostly this has to do with the volatility of the market, however there is nothing to do, if people want to gamble in the stock market then they are within their rights to do so, after all that money does not really disappear and it goes towards the hands of responsible and smart investors instead.

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December 12, 2021, 09:42:21 PM
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The new generation is just battling with hard times, things are changing as government not taking up responsibility properly to help the people under them so the people have taken to gambling to survive for daily bread but unfortunately gambling is not easy to make win from so the people end up to lose the little they have to gambling. Just a few percentage that have winning from gambling and the rest loser's money are used to pay winners. Losers will keep making effort to get some win on there money but that is hard because not all players will win.
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December 12, 2021, 09:54:51 PM
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Should we say that even trading normal markets such as spot is part of gambling?
Because obviously one has to "bet" a given amount of funds with hope that the price or value of the item he bought or invested in will grow?
Robinhood is one of the worst exchanges a sober crypto trader can use

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December 12, 2021, 10:38:40 PM
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The fact that crypto gambling has an investor slot. am sure these guys also want to get the feel of how crypto gambling works and to check if the business is a viable....besides these assets are tiring to look at on the charts all day hense gambling could be a refresher course.

 

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December 12, 2021, 11:24:49 PM
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Don't know how many percent, but binary options really hype this time. I mean in past some people avoid this kind of thing to make money, but i see on some social media, influencers get endorsed by some binary option sites and they only tell people if this kind of thing is really good to make people rich, because they only need to guess if price will up or down.

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Around 39 million options contracts have changed hands on an average day this year, up 35% from last year and the highest level ever, according to Options Clearing Corp. data as of the end of November. Retail traders recently made up around one-quarter of all options activity.

A quote from the article Investors Are Using Robinhood, Other Platforms to Jump Into Options Trades, Worrying U.S. Regulators

Robinhood is turning the new generation into gamblers and regulators are concerned because options trading is now preferred by the newer generations over stock trading or investing. We all know options trading is not investing because with options trading you are just betting what the price will be of a company's stock.

Regulators worry is that companies like Robinhood and Ameritrade easily approve users to gain access to options which makes the surge of these new gamblers. Retail investors are also enticed to join this frenzy because leverage is quite high while zero transaction fees.

Robinhood also offers crypto trading so I wonder if Bitcoin Futures & Options are also the most preferred today by the new generations of traders than on the spot market?

Well since they offered so many promos many youngsters only attracted to try using options trading, also using your luck rather is easier than learning a new skill tho. They always persuade new investors with a great return, safety, promos and others. Now lately I saw many ads about it lmao 


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For sure most of these "new generation of investors" who are into gambling/most trading on futures, are newbies or don't have risk management at all or they don't know how options trading works.
For me. these trading platforms should make some awareness to their clients, to let their customer knows the risk of trading options, most newbies now don't really care about such risks because they thought it is easy money.

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Robinhood is turning the new generation into gamblers and regulators are concerned because options trading is now preferred by the newer generations over stock trading or investing. We all know options trading is not investing because with options trading you are just betting what the price will be of a company's stock.


LoL wat? Who decides that it is a gamble to buy options? If options investing is gambling, then everything is gambling. Buying stocks on spot is also gambling if you follow this same logic. Why would anybody care anyway if people want to gamble? It is their money and they can do whatever they want with it.

If trading options is gambling, so is buying stocks, so is starting your own business, so is eating outside.
When you own a company's stock, you still bet on the price of the company's stock. You want it to go higher. It is the same thing. (almost)

Isn't stock investment making you part owner of the company?

While playing in the options trading is gambling with the big companies as they are both on the same side betting on the players speculating where the market price goes. It's a rigged game in which they are the house that wins all the time. There was even a report about trading platforms selling thier order flow data which they make more money out of it than providing trading services.







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December 13, 2021, 03:20:55 AM
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The new generation mostly are young people who still like to gamble their money to get decent profits, we couldn't call them investors since they are not really invest their money instead of placing the money for bet.
I know if crypto price could be analyze and cannot generalize as a pure bet but still, having the chance of losing all of our money could be call a gambling.
Futures and options platform are everywhere right now, if we compared to 2-3 years ago there are so few of them in cryptospace, this means the users are growing high so people are having lot profits by making those platforms.
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If you buy random/new coins without doing any research, it's a gambling. But if you doing research first, what's the project use cases and reason why you use them, then it's not a gambling.

And yet most of new generation were a gambling since they're very like to choose new/hype/fork projects. After they got scammed, they will say crypto is scam and the market is full of gambling.

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Well, I think the term "gambling" is wrong to describe the activity? Instead of calling it gambling, it should be a much riskier option compared to spot trading no? Well granted any type of investment that one just willy nilly enters is gambling in itself, but if it isn't, then comparing the two, options are simply riskier and that's about it. 
Around 39 million options contracts have changed hands on an average day this year, up 35% from last year and the highest level ever, according to Options Clearing Corp. data as of the end of November.
Regulators worry is that companies like Robinhood and Ameritrade easily approve users to gain access to options which makes the surge of these new gamblers. Retail investors are also enticed to join this frenzy because leverage is quite high while zero transaction fees.

Honestly, I don't even see the issue here, pretty sure that they know what they're getting into, whether it be spot, options, futures or whatever, investing means accepting the fact that you can lose whatever you invested in. Trading is a zero-sum game, people win, people lose.

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December 13, 2021, 04:58:04 AM
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Isn't stock investment making you part owner of the company?

While playing in the options trading is gambling with the big companies as they are both on the same side betting on the players speculating where the market price goes. It's a rigged game in which they are the house that wins all the time. There was even a report about trading platforms selling thier order flow data which they make more money out of it than providing trading services.

Yes that's why I said "almost". However, the company can always go bankrupt and your share's value can go to zero or lower than what you bought. You buy a stock because you want it to go higher against the dollar. When you do options, the same logic applies. What you want is always more USD.

You just have to be on the right side of the trade to make them work.

And no, stocks don't always go up. Paypal was $300 6 months ago, now it is trading at $188. You may own the stock, but if you bought at $300, right now you are holding a negative position. It may never recover and make a new ATH. Nobody can guarantee it. Was it gambling just because you bought at $300? No it was just a bad investment.

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December 13, 2021, 07:21:43 AM
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Isn't stock investment making you part owner of the company?

While playing in the options trading is gambling with the big companies as they are both on the same side betting on the players speculating where the market price goes. It's a rigged game in which they are the house that wins all the time. There was even a report about trading platforms selling thier order flow data which they make more money out of it than providing trading services.

Yes that's why I said "almost". However, the company can always go bankrupt and your share's value can go to zero or lower than what you bought. You buy a stock because you want it to go higher against the dollar. When you do options, the same logic applies. What you want is always more USD.

You just have to be on the right side of the trade to make them work.

And no, stocks don't always go up. Paypal was $300 6 months ago, now it is trading at $188. You may own the stock, but if you bought at $300, right now you are holding a negative position. It may never recover and make a new ATH. Nobody can guarantee it. Was it gambling just because you bought at $300? No it was just a bad investment.

What I meant is that if the investor is just on the spot market, he wouldn't lose all his funds after the price goes in the opposite direction. On the spot, even when the price hit its bottom, his investment can still be withdrawn although he loses a percentage of it. He didn't lose it all. Buying $300 means you lose all of it in the options trading executing in the hourly chart but he'll not lose it all in the spot market. 

Well, I think the term "gambling" is wrong to describe the activity? Instead of calling it gambling, it should be a much riskier option compared to spot trading no? Well granted any type of investment that one just willy nilly enters is gambling in itself, but if it isn't, then comparing the two, options are simply riskier and that's about it. 
Around 39 million options contracts have changed hands on an average day this year, up 35% from last year and the highest level ever, according to Options Clearing Corp. data as of the end of November.
Regulators worry is that companies like Robinhood and Ameritrade easily approve users to gain access to options which makes the surge of these new gamblers. Retail investors are also enticed to join this frenzy because leverage is quite high while zero transaction fees.

Honestly, I don't even see the issue here, pretty sure that they know what they're getting into, whether it be spot, options, futures or whatever, investing means accepting the fact that you can lose whatever you invested in. Trading is a zero-sum game, people win, people lose.

The issue is that options trading is rigged because the platforms are just betting against these gamblers and they are on both sides of the game.


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As if the US regulators truly care what people do with their finances apart from getting taxes from them. Again, while I don't like gambling I still don't think it's enough to force people into investment patterns they don't like. Advising this upward thinking generation to go into stocks as against the fast paced crypto industry for quick ROI will be like dragging people decades back from civilization. Is that what these regulators want, all in the guise of suppressing crypto trades? Whether Options or spot, crypto trading is already a very risky business. By the way, is there any business that isn't prone to risk? Regulators should allow traders choose their risk by themselves. Even stocks aren't safe Haven.

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Should we say that even trading normal markets such as spot is part of gambling?
Because obviously one has to "bet" a given amount of funds with hope that the price or value of the item he bought or invested in will grow?
Robinhood is one of the worst exchanges a sober crypto trader can use
It depends, if you are actually using a trading strategy you have backtested and you are following it no matter what then that is not gambling and you are really a trader, but if you are following your instincts, gut feeling, a strategy you do not really understand or the advice of someone else then you are gambling, now I do not think there is anything wrong with gambling as long as you do so at the right place like a casino, but gambling in the markets is just wrong and it will be impossible for you to get any profits if you keep that behavior.

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Should we say that even trading normal markets such as spot is part of gambling?
Because obviously one has to "bet" a given amount of funds with hope that the price or value of the item he bought or invested in will grow?
Robinhood is one of the worst exchanges a sober crypto trader can use
It depends, if you are actually using a trading strategy you have backtested and you are following it no matter what then that is not gambling and you are really a trader, but if you are following your instincts, gut feeling, a strategy you do not really understand or the advice of someone else then you are gambling, now I do not think there is anything wrong with gambling as long as you do so at the right place like a casino, but gambling in the markets is just wrong and it will be impossible for you to get any profits if you keep that behavior.
You could actually see it for yourself whether its a gambling or totally a strategic based type of thing and you would really be able to realize when you do have the real experience and those key points you had mentioned
which are actually on point and precise.

Gambling in trading is on the sense on which you do apply guts and instincts on making up trading decisions rather than on going with technical and fundamentals which you should really depend on but there are
circumstances which you cant really able to avoid up.

Deal it according on what means and as long  you do sustain then that what matter the most.

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Yes no dout in this mostly new investor are doing gamling they won't have any experience and also try to become a successful trader in short time which is not possible that's why they do future trade and many more mistake

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Some of them are already knowledgeable about the internet and of course, they are young they have their full confidence to make a risk than others, and gambling is more ideal to deal with than trading because it does not require a lot of technicalities and understanding how it works. In gambling just wage your assets and wait for your luck and strategy to win the game its ideal for me to play safe with the card games and sports/e-sports game than risking my funds into a slot game but it has higher rewards.

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December 22, 2021, 12:33:29 PM
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Why options trading is considered gambling,while penny stock trading isn't considered gambling by the article author?
There will always be traders,who prefer a high risk/reward ratio.Nobody can stop them from trading.
If options trading gets banned in certain jurisdictions,those traders will find an alternative.
Perhaps the platforms like RobinHood can implement some kind of internal limits,when it comes to options trading.AFAIK,Binary options are banned in the USA,but I might be wrong about this.
By the way,I wouldn't call those investors "a new generation".
They were always here,we just couldn't see them.


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Why options trading is considered gambling,while penny stock trading isn't considered gambling by the article author?
There will always be traders,who prefer a high risk/reward ratio.Nobody can stop them from trading.
If options trading gets banned in certain jurisdictions,those traders will find an alternative.
Perhaps the platforms like RobinHood can implement some kind of internal limits,when it comes to options trading.AFAIK,Binary options are banned in the USA,but I might be wrong about this.
By the way,I wouldn't call those investors "a new generation".
They were always here,we just couldn't see them.

You can not lose everything when you invest in penny stocks. The prices may just depreciate to its very low price but there is still something to get when you sell your stocks unlike when you do it on binary options. And it's the same thing with futures when the trend goes the other way.

But you are right nobody can stop them from trading even if the government will try to stop them but these platforms have the least responsibility to look thru those traders just as how they have reasons ask KYC. Not just approve them instantly.


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I think that a large number of people just want to make an investment in the gaming industry. This type of cryptocurrency gaming industry has dual functionalities as people can enjoy in the gaming industry as well as it can be a way of earning money. So in this period of time, people often use the gaming industry to make investments. The gaming industry is increasing day by day as numerous users are interested in this type of marketplace.

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December 22, 2021, 02:58:08 PM
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Should we say that even trading normal markets such as spot is part of gambling?
Because obviously one has to "bet" a given amount of funds with hope that the price or value of the item he bought or invested in will grow?
Robinhood is one of the worst exchanges a sober crypto trader can use

Lol not so regarded as gambling. Trading is a little guided at least you can trigger your stop loss automatically. Moreover, with trading you have technical and fundamentals to analyse that will help you on the decision you want to make. They come like chart and news but gambling don't have this but usually based on instinct. Also I don't know if trade is manipulated but gambling is.
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They come like chart and news but gambling don't have this but usually based on instinct. Also I don't know if trade is manipulated but gambling is.

It may be considered gambling by writers because they are just guessing, buying without knowing the analysis. I think if an investor just becomes a gambler he will just run out of capital. If the investor just guessed and succeeded I think it was just luck it would only be one or two times. Then they will lose big.
I don't think a smart investor will be like that, he will think about risk and profit in detail. If the investor without analysis is not an investor but possibly a gambler.

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December 22, 2021, 08:58:58 PM
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I have come across a different breed of investors who are scouting for potential new projects, negotiate a good deal for the seed investment and then if there is a delay in the progress then they would attack the team and would ask to release their tokens even though there is a vesting period for the tokens for these seed investors and i have seen projects sinking because the team released the vested tokens due to the pressure and those seed investors making a fortune.
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I have come across a different breed of investors who are scouting for potential new projects, negotiate a good deal for the seed investment and then if there is a delay in the progress then they would attack the team and would ask to release their tokens even though there is a vesting period for the tokens for these seed investors and i have seen projects sinking because the team released the vested tokens due to the pressure and those seed investors making a fortune.
Why would have delay on the first place? If there are specific dates on when those tokens would be finalized or released then it is just right for the team to make out on what they had promised.
There would be no rush up on things or blames if everything would really be in order or had been followed on what  the project had been told but expect or anticipate that there would be
possible delays due to developments cant really be rushed up sometimes.It is just investors are really that impatient and does really like that everything
should be followed but well i cant really blame them off.

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December 22, 2021, 10:12:34 PM
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Should we look at it that way, we might be a little bit biased because, though the youths might be heavily involved in gambling, the aged persons or fully grown adult are heavy stakers. They are capable of making a stake that could cover the stakes of over a 100 youths. Just like that, the investors grow wild in there search for investment opportunities in varying projects. Gambling provides people with a reason to be hopeful of some huge earnings over some few $ stakes. Hence, it became a thing for most persons that needed to be hopeful while those with lots of cash just see it for a game.

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December 23, 2021, 08:51:19 PM
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if novice investors have no knowledge of how to trade, it will certainly lead to gambling a bit because they don't know what they are doing and are just guessing. However, this also applies to the Futures or Binary Options market, which only uses guesswork.
Old investors certainly don't do stupid things like that, it takes a long research to start believing in the coins or assets they trade.
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December 23, 2021, 09:02:51 PM
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if novice investors have no knowledge of how to trade, it will certainly lead to gambling a bit because they don't know what they are doing and are just guessing. However, this also applies to the Futures or Binary Options market, which only uses guesswork.
Old investors certainly don't do stupid things like that, it takes a long research to start believing in the coins or assets they trade.

this is why you can call investing more into gambling side if you are jumping on this market blindly. you should have prior knowledge before buying any of these alts. because if not, you are indeed gambling your funds. though the risk is still there if you do your own research and study, but at least, you can prevent small or big losses if you are well-versed on a particular project. it will give you better understanding of its market if you will spend time studying them and you may save yourself from further losses if you are keeping up to date with the progress of the project.

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December 23, 2021, 11:30:05 PM
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I personally can't say whether it's true or not, because it certainly depends on each individual.
However, if you look at some of the people around me, as far as I know it is true that they are more into gambling in crypto than trading.
This is due to several factors that I see:
- They ask about how to get profits fast in trading
-After explaining at length, whether they understand or not, it turns out that they are only following promotions from channels that they think are very promising or well-known public figures
- They focus more on hype new coins, such as meme coins, NFT, Gaming coins and some coins from new projects that have massive promotions.
- They are more interested in pump and dump actions that take advantage of coins prices which are likely to go up high in the near future
- But unfortunately they often lose, because they just go in to buy the coin when the price has soared, which in the end most of their money is lost because the coins they have are no longer valuable.

However, this does not generalize everything, there are some people who are also serious about learning from scratch and becoming traders.

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December 23, 2021, 11:42:55 PM
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However, this does not generalize everything, there are some people who are also serious about learning from scratch and becoming traders.
This is true, I have a few friends the same at a young age as me who had open-minded when it comes to crypto investment.  They know what pump and dump crypto and also the hyped coins, especially meme coins.  Not all of them prefer to gamble their money, they even know that Bitcoin is the best investment among altcoins.

Investors who want to gamble might be the reasons are;
  • Want a quick profit
  • Don't have an idea of what they invested, as long as they heard profit
  • Under influenced by the popular influencer
  • Being hyped

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December 23, 2021, 11:45:15 PM
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if novice investors have no knowledge of how to trade, it will certainly lead to gambling a bit because they don't know what they are doing and are just guessing. However, this also applies to the Futures or Binary Options market, which only uses guesswork.
Old investors certainly don't do stupid things like that, it takes a long research to start believing in the coins or assets they trade.

this is why you can call investing more into gambling side if you are jumping on this market blindly. you should have prior knowledge before buying any of these alts. because if not, you are indeed gambling your funds. though the risk is still there if you do your own research and study, but at least, you can prevent small or big losses if you are well-versed on a particular project. it will give you better understanding of its market if you will spend time studying them and you may save yourself from further losses if you are keeping up to date with the progress of the project.
You would really be a gambler like if you dont know on what you are doing which is of course you would need to have some research on a particular project before tending to make out some investment or deposit.

This isnt something that you do only put without minding or without having analysis as for those new generations on where they could make out searches and have access and knowledgeable about tech

and something we do have in todays era then it would really be simple on conducting out some research which would really be helpful for your investment decisions.
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Yes it’s more of less gambling. If you were ever reading any of the WSB you can clearly see that these people have no idea what they are doing.

They basically YOLO all their money on some options contract that expires in less than a week. And sometimes they get lucky and turn $3K into like $30K and do it over and over until they go bust.

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It seems like that, a lot of young investors start their investment without adequate knowledge, actually there are many sources to learn about investment but many are reluctant to learn it and usually they are like that because they are more focused on profit even though by studying the investments we choose, it will be possible for us to reduce the risks or we can more carefully to choose the investment.

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It seems like that, a lot of young investors start their investment without adequate knowledge, actually there are many sources to learn about investment but many are reluctant to learn it and usually they are like that because they are more focused on profit even though by studying the investments we choose, it will be possible for us to reduce the risks or we can more carefully to choose the investment.

Most of young people are always aiming for quick profits and don't want to earn more knowldege about cryptocurrency and blockchain that's why the amount of liquidated assets is much more increasing than last year, because this year there are a lot of new young investors who trade at future markets and just rely on their luck when entering trades.
This is actually pretty bad for crypto image on the social, because most of the young man when they are having a loss they will post the result on their social media just like they are losing for a gamble.

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It seems like that, a lot of young investors start their investment without adequate knowledge, actually there are many sources to learn about investment but many are reluctant to learn it and usually they are like that because they are more focused on profit even though by studying the investments we choose, it will be possible for us to reduce the risks or we can more carefully to choose the investment.

Most of young people are always aiming for quick profits and don't want to earn more knowldege about cryptocurrency and blockchain that's why the amount of liquidated assets is much more increasing than last year, because this year there are a lot of new young investors who trade at future markets and just rely on their luck when entering trades.
This is actually pretty bad for crypto image on the social, because most of the young man when they are having a loss they will post the result on their social media just like they are losing for a gamble.
The most sensitive is still the period that transitions from green areas to red areas recently, lots of bad images of total account slamming from futures markets to getting split five to ten times in totally junk projects, most of them are in a depressed state with an urgent signal but the community can only sympathize and explain this very unwise action. This year there has been so much optimism that new generations have followed this inertia without a little more fundamentalism, investment and trading have since become an extremely new and even more stimulating gamblingism thanks to coin meme and a series of game projects.

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December 24, 2021, 04:24:56 PM
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It seems like that, a lot of young investors start their investment without adequate knowledge, actually there are many sources to learn about investment but many are reluctant to learn it and usually they are like that because they are more focused on profit even though by studying the investments we choose, it will be possible for us to reduce the risks or we can more carefully to choose the investment.

I think that the spirit of hard work is dying off and people don't spend time to know what they are putting money into but just to invest best someone else has done likewise like they are gambling a chance for profit. This is why many have been scammed because they rush to invest without thoroughly scrutinizing the process more like gambling the chance to trying there luck.
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Of course new generation of investors preferring more into gambling section because recently most of the projects launching on gambling and Play to earn . They are passing their time by spending gambling and Play to earn gaming platforms.
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December 25, 2021, 01:52:44 PM
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Yes it’s more of less gambling. If you were ever reading any of the WSB you can clearly see that these people have no idea what they are doing.

They basically YOLO all their money on some options contract that expires in less than a week. And sometimes they get lucky and turn $3K into like $30K and do it over and over until they go bust.

Kind of like crypto traders go 100x leverage trading Bitcoin.

This is if they got lucky. It rarely happens and sometimes it's going to give someone a good start to do something where he is good at and not pursue something he has no idea. Or the money will just plush out after.

Leverage trading is not really for someone who has no idea. That's why it's close to being gambling and can lose all funds instantly particularly for newbies. The one thing that makes Robinhood dubious is they approve newbie traders.


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December 25, 2021, 02:00:56 PM
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Of course new generation of investors preferring more into gambling section because recently most of the projects launching on gambling and Play to earn . They are passing their time by spending gambling and Play to earn gaming platforms.
You got it wrong about investing and gambling. Investors could also be gamblers but gamblers are gamblers.
They could have other investments and they can take more risk than the usual person who seeks investments.
But investors, they won't be called investors if they don't have a lot of experience in investing and  the new investors, we don't know what most of their backgrounds.

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Investors could also be gamblers but gamblers are gamblers. They could have other investments and they can take more risk than the usual person who seeks investments.
Even investors may go for gambling because they are having enough time to correct the mistake if anything goes wrong whereas traders should not gamble because the time frame is very small and they may get enforced to exit at stoploss. In my opinion, traders also be gambler and not investors but gamblers cannot be traders or investors just through gambling.

they won't be called investors if they don't have a lot of experience in investing
After bitcoin, I would say that your experience will be least bothered; you can gamble with bitcoin investments but the only catch should be, you must need enough patience which may last up to 4 years as well.
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I have to be honest and say that many people imagined crypto to be gambling as well. This was of course at first, and now it is seen as a regular investment. You may see contracts a sort of way to gamble your money away, but 99% of the time either one side or the other wins a lot of money.

It means that yes there are some who lose a lot of money but there are also others who earn a lot of money whenever price moves up or down. This shows that it could be a bit like gambling but also not like gambling, there is no "house" here that takes your money, it is the other people who do. So, this could be considered like "poker" instead of something like blackjack. In poker you lose but some other player wins and the house gets a small rake instead of playing against players. So crypto could be considered a bit like gambling, but only the poker kind.
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Of course new generation of investors preferring more into gambling section because recently most of the projects launching on gambling and Play to earn . They are passing their time by spending gambling and Play to earn gaming platforms.
I don’t think so, because they are very few new projects about gambling so technically many are still on a different market and not just with gambling. New traders becomes a gambler once they fail on their trade and became greedy, we should know the risk of gambling and trading, they are both ok but different in risk level better to go for what you think is necessary for you to succeed and have profit.
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It seems like that, a lot of young investors start their investment without adequate knowledge, actually there are many sources to learn about investment but many are reluctant to learn it and usually they are like that because they are more focused on profit even though by studying the investments we choose, it will be possible for us to reduce the risks or we can more carefully to choose the investment.
^That is why they gamble their money into new projects even though they had a lack of knowledge of it because of hoping to gain x amounts of profit even though they know it is a hype project. This is because of pure greed, they want an easy way of gaining profit without even having enough idea of what they are invested in and how it will work. That happens because most of them want to have profit in a short period of time they are willing to risk that. But I think it is better to risk and gamble your money into a new project without knowing anything than gamble your money in a gambling casino with zero knowledge.
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It seems like that, a lot of young investors start their investment without adequate knowledge, actually there are many sources to learn about investment but many are reluctant to learn it and usually they are like that because they are more focused on profit even though by studying the investments we choose, it will be possible for us to reduce the risks or we can more carefully to choose the investment.
^That is why they gamble their money into new projects even though they had a lack of knowledge of it because of hoping to gain x amounts of profit even though they know it is a hype project. This is because of pure greed, they want an easy way of gaining profit without even having enough idea of what they are invested in and how it will work. That happens because most of them want to have profit in a short period of time they are willing to risk that. But I think it is better to risk and gamble your money into a new project without knowing anything than gamble your money in a gambling casino with zero knowledge.
Simply greed and if you do make things control you then you would really be committing out mistakes into your investment which it shouldnt really be done by someone if you are really that serious
on finding with profits. Dont make yourself in haste when making out decisions because this is where you do able to rush up things on making decisions which it isnt really that idea if you do ask me.
Sooner or later they would really be finding the reality on how it do works and would make out those realizations and would become a better investor or trader later on.
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December 25, 2021, 10:08:44 PM
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Investors could also be gamblers but gamblers are gamblers. They could have other investments and they can take more risk than the usual person who seeks investments.
Even investors may go for gambling because they are having enough time to correct the mistake if anything goes wrong whereas traders should not gamble because the time frame is very small and they may get enforced to exit at stoploss. In my opinion, traders also be gambler and not investors but gamblers cannot be traders or investors just through gambling.
Well, on the other hand, there are the traders that gambles too in the market. Like the margin trading, it's an actual gamble that they do.

they won't be called investors if they don't have a lot of experience in investing
After bitcoin, I would say that your experience will be least bothered; you can gamble with bitcoin investments but the only catch should be, you must need enough patience which may last up to 4 years as well.
Change it into investing into bitcoin rather. That patience shouldn't have the time and range, as long as it can last long, I think that's the most important thing.

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December 25, 2021, 11:27:43 PM
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However, this does not generalize everything, there are some people who are also serious about learning from scratch and becoming traders.
I agree. Not all new investors join crypto investments with improper knowledge (less knowledge). Some of them are serious to learn about crypto first before they really buy any crypto coins. Those people who learn seriously at the beginning, probably have enough knowledge to trade or invest before they make plans and take some actions. I have some friends who are beginners in crypto investment, but they have a good understanding of crypto and have sufficient knowledge. They don't look like a new generation to gamble in crypto investment.
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New traders becomes a gambler once they fail on their trade and became greedy, we should know the risk of gambling and trading, they are both ok but different in risk level better to go for what you think is necessary for you to succeed and have profit.
Unfortunately no traders could get only success in trading which means at some point every trader might be becoming too greedy or emotionally failed and that is the point where traders are becoming gamblers. When you are not emotionally stable then you will never bother about risk levels and the difference between trading and gambling and most probably you will start doing your trading in gambling methodology.

Those people who learn seriously at the beginning, probably have enough knowledge to trade or invest before they make plans and take some actions.
Yeah, always those people who value their money will remain dedicated and serious hence while preparing for trading, they will try to master all the techniques to make profits from trading. These types of traders will never gamble in the name of trading.

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Some of them are already knowledgeable about the internet and of course, they are young they have their full confidence to make a risk than others, and gambling is more ideal to deal with than trading because it does not require a lot of technicalities and understanding how it works. In gambling just wage your assets and wait for your luck and strategy to win the game its ideal for me to play safe with the card games and sports/e-sports game than risking my funds into a slot game but it has higher rewards.
You are right, really slots turn out to be one of the best games that casinos offer, but what it produces is without a doubt if there is no control it is the vice, of being all day glued to the slot machine always looking for a profit or a good multiplier that recovers everything that has been spent in hours, and that is dangerous, because every time you want to continue playing and playing, that is why when I play slots in casinos what I do is have a small balance available to lose, but on the condition that I have a lot of fun, so I'm not looking to make money, but to de-stress.

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However, this does not generalize everything, there are some people who are also serious about learning from scratch and becoming traders.
I agree. Not all new investors join crypto investments with improper knowledge (less knowledge). Some of them are serious to learn about crypto first before they really buy any crypto coins. Those people who learn seriously at the beginning, probably have enough knowledge to trade or invest before they make plans and take some actions. I have some friends who are beginners in crypto investment, but they have a good understanding of crypto and have sufficient knowledge. They don't look like a new generation to gamble in crypto investment.


I think there are very few new generation of investors who are really serious about learning how to invest in crypto well. So if your friends are people
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successful investors or traders in the future. Because most newbies just want instant results, without going through a long process. So it's not
surprising that many newbies lose all their capital when they first invest in crypto. Because they like gambling when investing, that's why some
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I would have to say the simple answer to that appears to be yes. Maybe the YOLO trade was around before, but I had never heard of it until WallstreetBets. Options are nothing new and have always been a gamble, but it seems like more of the younger generation is willing to go "all in" with options calls/puts in hopes of hitting it big. I can't count how many YouTube videos I've seen of WSB people losing huge sums of money (significantly more have lost than made it to the milly mark). I'm sure these type of people have always existed, but probably not as many as there are today..

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I would have to say the simple answer to that appears to be yes. Maybe the YOLO trade was around before, but I had never heard of it until WallstreetBets. Options are nothing new and have always been a gamble, but it seems like more of the younger generation is willing to go "all in" with options calls/puts in hopes of hitting it big. I can't count how many YouTube videos I've seen of WSB people losing huge sums of money (significantly more have lost than made it to the milly mark). I'm sure these type of people have always existed, but probably not as many as there are today..
I think part of that can be attributed to the nature of this market, in other markets in order to be able to invest in them there are a lot of obstacles that you need to overcome, with one of them being that you need a certain amount of money just to have the chance of investing in the market, however in the market of cryptocurrencies this is not true, as long as you have some money and a computer with Internet you can become an investor, this means that people without the necessary knowledge are investing in the markets, and since they do not know what they are doing then they are taking all kind of crazy risks that experimented traders will never take.

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I don't know about other markets but trading crypto markets have been compared to gambling for along time and the high volatility supports that theory. The biggest increase was in 2020 and 2021 that saw both old and new investors take the degens pathway. I mean, you'd have to consider things like investing in a low cap crypto or purchasing a bunch of JPEGs NFTs.

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I agree. Not all new investors join crypto investments with improper knowledge (less knowledge). Some of them are serious to learn about crypto first before they really buy any crypto coins. Those people who learn seriously at the beginning, probably have enough knowledge to trade or invest before they make plans and take some actions. I have some friends who are beginners in crypto investment, but they have a good understanding of crypto and have sufficient knowledge. They don't look like a new generation to gamble in crypto investment.


This is true. But I think its only a handful of new crypto investors actually take the time to learn and do research. Most just needs everything to be laid out for them and it doesn't work that way.


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I would have to say the simple answer to that appears to be yes. Maybe the YOLO trade was around before, but I had never heard of it until WallstreetBets. Options are nothing new and have always been a gamble, but it seems like more of the younger generation is willing to go "all in" with options calls/puts in hopes of hitting it big. I can't count how many YouTube videos I've seen of WSB people losing huge sums of money (significantly more have lost than made it to the milly mark). I'm sure these type of people have always existed, but probably not as many as there are today..
If those young generations want to go "all in" options calls/puts, that means they will face a big risk, especially if they do not have the right info about how to do that. That is still a gamble for them as they do not know how to analyze before placing their selection. In the end, they will only lose their money without having a chance to make money. Hopefully, the other new generations can learn from those people and not make the same mistakes. It needs them to realize that it is not as simple as they think because everything they will do related to that thing needs learning.

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Maybe. Some understand the risk and some just act blindly. Those who act without thinking end up losing. Trading can be highly risky. There is no room for greed and impatience. If you have a risk appetite, then only you should enter into the market.
Yes.

Those who trade blindly are the ones that are gambling. While the traders that know exactly what they're doing are taking the risk that they know how to bear.

The ones that make the most in trading are the ones that you've said and with experience. They're not rushing and know when to buy/sell at the right time.

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December 30, 2021, 05:24:56 PM
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Yes.

Those who trade blindly are the ones that are gambling. While the traders that know exactly what they're doing are taking the risk that they know how to bear.

The ones that make the most in trading are the ones that you've said and with experience. They're not rushing and know when to buy/sell at the right time.

Its not necessary that you bet on sports, play poker etc to be a gambling ecosystem. Blindly placing buying order on a shit coin is also a kind of gambling which most of millennial's do these days.
The rise of crypto has made it possible for youngsters to participate in gambling since easily allow one to bypass the KYC process. With time we will see more and more youngsters in gambling and thats something worrying for us.
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Yes.

Those who trade blindly are the ones that are gambling. While the traders that know exactly what they're doing are taking the risk that they know how to bear.

The ones that make the most in trading are the ones that you've said and with experience. They're not rushing and know when to buy/sell at the right time.

Its not necessary that you bet on sports, play poker etc to be a gambling ecosystem. Blindly placing buying order on a shit coin is also a kind of gambling which most of millennial's do these days.
The rise of crypto has made it possible for youngsters to participate in gambling since easily allow one to bypass the KYC process. With time we will see more and more youngsters in gambling and thats something worrying for us.
That's what we're saying about gambling.

You trade blindly and you're also gambling already. The fact is that many of the traders to this date are like that.

They're making a lot of mistakes in doing their trades because they think that it's an easy way to profit in this market.

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December 30, 2021, 06:38:03 PM
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It;s no surprise since the trading on gamlbing sites is no different from traditional trading however it's more like an Binary option rather than trading on spots though the risk is still the same but in gambling trade it's either you win or lose and you wont be able to cut out the losses while in trading you would be able to stop your losses or early take profit.
There are options of bet cashout in gambling to cut your losses actually. You can see the situation in the match and cash your bet based on your feelings about it, of course that's applicable for sports betting only.

Most new generation traders are getting indulged in gambling is because of the lack of knowledge and how lucrative gambling looks from outside. Actually I believe anyone who is trading in crypto without any knowledge or experience and proper planning is simply gambling on which coin will go up or down.

To sum it up, gambling is a form of emotional or feelings trading where you are not using any skills but relying on your lucky or feelings.
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Depends on who the investor is. It depends on the person's work style, not on his age, as for me.
That's why OP mentioned "new generation" because the students and young people turning up to crypto are more prone to gambling than to trading. Gambling and trading have always been considered to be similar and a thin line separates the two. You can be a gambler but trading odds while you may be a trader and gambling with the market. At the end it all comes down to how much you earn on average that determines what you are really doing.

Anyhow, we must do trading as per prescribed method and then gambling in its own method and mixing one into another definitely will not help anyone to make profits but there are plenty of chances for losing.

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Option trading is being chosen because it’s more profitable than stock trading or even day trading. I feel that there is no issue in that and they don’t need portray any other theories on the same. If they choosing option trading and putting investment into those stocks then don’t forget it’s being utilised in the market for their own development too. (the companies).

Investors generation is important cycle. This will lead us to the newer era of lifestyle. Most of them Will have rich minds and rich wallets too. Well that’s national development along the way. So yeah no issues at all. 
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Robinhood is turning the new generation into gamblers and regulators are concerned because options trading is now preferred by the newer generations over stock trading or investing. We all know options trading is not investing because with options trading you are just betting what the price will be of a company's stock.
More people are gambling than trading because naturally, we all want to make money "easily". This is where all the problem lies in, when we start looking for easy money instead of adopting a particular method and learning throughout the journey. I guess when AI influenced bots are available in the market then people will prefer gambling over the trading as gambling may get them both entertainment and money.

At the same time, anything which is not backed by scientific approach may not sustain. So, gambling even it will be performed with the help of any advanced technology may not remain fruitful in long run then people may start switch over to other things which may be trading as well.
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Robinhood is turning the new generation into gamblers and regulators are concerned because options trading is now preferred by the newer generations over stock trading or investing. We all know options trading is not investing because with options trading you are just betting what the price will be of a company's stock.
More people are gambling than trading because naturally, we all want to make money "easily". This is where all the problem lies in, when we start looking for easy money instead of adopting a particular method and learning throughout the journey. I guess when AI influenced bots are available in the market then people will prefer gambling over the trading as gambling may get them both entertainment and money.

At the same time, anything which is not backed by scientific approach may not sustain. So, gambling even it will be performed with the help of any advanced technology may not remain fruitful in long run then people may start switch over to other things which may be trading as well.
I don’t know for sure, but a lot of people that I have seen who have gone into options trading, at the end they run out from it because they realized that they are losing money. Some of them even end up calling it a scam because they were not able to gain anything from it.

But, I do know for sure that there would still be lots of people who are interested in options trading because they see it as easy money,, there isn’t hard work required to do the options trading, you simply have to predict whether the market would be going up or it would be going down and that’s just it and if your prediction is right, your money comes in.

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Robinhood is turning the new generation into gamblers and regulators are concerned because options trading is now preferred by the newer generations over stock trading or investing. We all know options trading is not investing because with options trading you are just betting what the price will be of a company's stock.
More people are gambling than trading because naturally, we all want to make money "easily". This is where all the problem lies in, when we start looking for easy money instead of adopting a particular method and learning throughout the journey. I guess when AI influenced bots are available in the market then people will prefer gambling over the trading as gambling may get them both entertainment and money.

At the same time, anything which is not backed by scientific approach may not sustain. So, gambling even it will be performed with the help of any advanced technology may not remain fruitful in long run then people may start switch over to other things which may be trading as well.
I don’t know for sure, but a lot of people that I have seen who have gone into options trading, at the end they run out from it because they realized that they are losing money. Some of them even end up calling it a scam because they were not able to gain anything from it.

But, I do know for sure that there would still be lots of people who are interested in options trading because they see it as easy money,, there isn’t hard work required to do the options trading, you simply have to predict whether the market would be going up or it would be going down and that’s just it and if your prediction is right, your money comes in.

Right, cause they are looser, If people invested in Bitcoin and do trade on it and run out of capital then they are nothing but looser.

Never do that thing which one is suitable for you. I know some people who started trading in Bitcoin, previously they do trade binary. I told them trading on Bitcoin is not similar to Binary trading. But they didn't care about my words and as usual, lost all of their funds.

when I've seen them again just suggest them, "don't be foolish, you don't have enough knowledge about trading and technology, and you are teenagers now,"
I suggest them not to do trading, Just Buy the Dip and Hodl, Trading is not suitable for all, but hodling is. they took my suggestion and fortunately were able to recover their lost funds with extra profit.

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Around 39 million options contracts have changed hands on an average day this year, up 35% from last year and the highest level ever, according to Options Clearing Corp. data as of the end of November. Retail traders recently made up around one-quarter of all options activity.

A quote from the article Investors Are Using Robinhood, Other Platforms to Jump Into Options Trades, Worrying U.S. Regulators

Robinhood is turning the new generation into gamblers and regulators are concerned because options trading is now preferred by the newer generations over stock trading or investing. We all know options trading is not investing because with options trading you are just betting what the price will be of a company's stock.

Regulators worry is that companies like Robinhood and Ameritrade easily approve users to gain access to options which makes the surge of these new gamblers. Retail investors are also enticed to join this frenzy because leverage is quite high while zero transaction fees.

Robinhood also offers crypto trading so I wonder if Bitcoin Futures & Options are also the most preferred today by the new generations of traders than on the spot market?
I think option trading is more secure than stocks because if good analysis is done before buying or selling on a specific date one can be more sure of good returns as the risk is even less compared to the high volatility of stocks and most crypto. One only gambles when there is no analysis or when the analysis is not properly analysed. Robinhood Is only giving investors diverse option and it's only greed that would make one trade option trading as a gambler other than a patient market analyst
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Definitely new generation are looking to make money very quickly and gambling is best place to win or loose money. So these new investors are going to gambling arena for quick and big money. I also a big fan of tennis and used to gamble on many games but you ask me now gambling is not going to support you any more. One day you will loss all your money so please save money and say good bye to gambling.
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Depends on who the investor is. It depends on the person's work style, not on his age, as for me.
That's why OP mentioned "new generation" because the students and young people turning up to crypto are more prone to gambling than to trading. Gambling and trading have always been considered to be similar and a thin line separates the two. You can be a gambler but trading odds while you may be a trader and gambling with the market. At the end it all comes down to how much you earn on average that determines what you are really doing.

Anyhow, we must do trading as per prescribed method and then gambling in its own method and mixing one into another definitely will not help anyone to make profits but there are plenty of chances for losing.
This is important, the truth is that the techniques that can be used in trading can be used by gamblers as well, especially when it comes to sport bets, so there is a fine line that separates the two, and there is little doubt in mind that a great deal of the people that trade the markets are not really traders but gamblers instead, after all if that was not the case then it would be impossible to explain the irrational behavior that we see in some of the decisions people take all the time in the markets as they invest in coins with no future.

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Depends on who the investor is. It depends on the person's work style, not on his age, as for me.
That's why OP mentioned "new generation" because the students and young people turning up to crypto are more prone to gambling than to trading. Gambling and trading have always been considered to be similar and a thin line separates the two. You can be a gambler but trading odds while you may be a trader and gambling with the market. At the end it all comes down to how much you earn on average that determines what you are really doing.

Anyhow, we must do trading as per prescribed method and then gambling in its own method and mixing one into another definitely will not help anyone to make profits but there are plenty of chances for losing.
This is important, the truth is that the techniques that can be used in trading can be used by gamblers as well, especially when it comes to sport bets, so there is a fine line that separates the two, and there is little doubt in mind that a great deal of the people that trade the markets are not really traders but gamblers instead, after all if that was not the case then it would be impossible to explain the irrational behavior that we see in some of the decisions people take all the time in the markets as they invest in coins with no future.
Things turns out to be a gamble when someone had able to tolerate out their emotions when it comes on dealing with investment specially on trading or something like that whenever they do see some price declines

then they get impulsive which did really result into those bad decisions which resulted into loss of money or funds which you would really be thinking on rushing on getting it back just like when you are playing
gambling on which you do become impulsive on making out decisions but im not talking about generally on new generation to be having that kind of behavior but most likely.
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Depends on who the investor is. It depends on the person's work style, not on his age, as for me.
That's why OP mentioned "new generation" because the students and young people turning up to crypto are more prone to gambling than to trading. Gambling and trading have always been considered to be similar and a thin line separates the two. You can be a gambler but trading odds while you may be a trader and gambling with the market. At the end it all comes down to how much you earn on average that determines what you are really doing.

Anyhow, we must do trading as per prescribed method and then gambling in its own method and mixing one into another definitely will not help anyone to make profits but there are plenty of chances for losing.
This is important, the truth is that the techniques that can be used in trading can be used by gamblers as well, especially when it comes to sport bets, so there is a fine line that separates the two, and there is little doubt in mind that a great deal of the people that trade the markets are not really traders but gamblers instead, after all if that was not the case then it would be impossible to explain the irrational behavior that we see in some of the decisions people take all the time in the markets as they invest in coins with no future.
Things turns out to be a gamble when someone had able to tolerate out their emotions when it comes on dealing with investment specially on trading or something like that whenever they do see some price declines

then they get impulsive which did really result into those bad decisions which resulted into loss of money or funds which you would really be thinking on rushing on getting it back just like when you are playing
gambling on which you do become impulsive on making out decisions but im not talking about generally on new generation to be having that kind of behavior but most likely.

Panic mode is always part in the market. If you don't know how to handle yourself, you will be eaten alive and lose your funds easily. So you should have plans beforehand, and it something goes wrong with your strategy, you should also have contingencies in place. Don't let panic mode overpower your emotion.
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You are right, the truth is that in the game anything can happen, however when we are in a casino, there are factors that influence, such as music, the fact of having better graphics in the games, this is only the power of attraction that exists, most of the new generations are already rich from birth, they come with their parents' money and do not mind spending it, so since they have a risk management very different from any person, the decisions that are made can sometimes be full of luck and they multiply the money, that has happened a lot, however the new ideas that come from the new generations are what make the sites and platforms evolve.

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January 13, 2022, 09:36:11 PM
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I agree that most of new investors are more into gambling or play to earn games, they love earning while playing, and most of them really earn because play to earn game is more simple than holding asset for so many years and sometimes earn a small amount even if you hold it for so long while in gambling or play to earn you can instantly earn when you win.
I agree these are all due to lack of knowledge about the dangers of crypto trading. When people gain enough experience and knowledge about crypto trading then they will stop playing with it. Crypto trading never should be approached in gambling way because the principles of risk management will become inefficient when we are not following all the technical of crypto trading.

Making profits from crypto trading is already not easier for anyone and approaching it in gambling way will definitely make it too difficult rather than getting you any different result in the end.
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January 14, 2022, 08:38:57 AM
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I got curious about this topic and decided to start programming something.

I made a simple program that randomly chose whether to long or short based on historic data, tp and sl were set at 1% of the price and I assumed 10x leverage.

Over a period of 1400 trades, in a few different markets (trading only when no position is open and checked every four hours), the greatest loss I found was around 14%.

I didn't make this a topic because I wasn't sure how accurate my code was but I don't think I'd call that gambling (and it looked quite a risky strategy too - as an extra note I didn't include fees).
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January 14, 2022, 10:45:33 AM
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You are right, the truth is that in the game anything can happen, however when we are in a casino, there are factors that influence, such as music, the fact of having better graphics in the games, this is only the power of attraction that exists, most of the new generations are already rich from birth, they come with their parents' money and do not mind spending it, so since they have a risk management very different from any person, the decisions that are made can sometimes be full of luck and they multiply the money, that has happened a lot, however the new ideas that come from the new generations are what make the sites and platforms evolve.

And they are less likely to know how to manage their finances and never mind overspending as they don't work hard for their money. How this could affect the market trend will probably be in favor of the continuous spread of crypto adoption. As these people won't realize the thing they've done, we could expect that this will cause losses on their side.

Actually, what we have seen is most of this new generation of investors are always looking for pleasure. They go for gambling asking for a chance to get lucky and win but that is not how it works, and in fact, that seems it never works all the time.  But as I've said, they don't care about losing as it wasn't their hard work money.
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January 14, 2022, 10:46:13 AM
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People wanted easy money, therefore they'll go to futures and not on stock trading. Futures trading is thrilling than spot trading, a high risk high reward that suits for people that are impatient and risky player yet some of them are still making profits on it. New generations don't want to wait, that's why you could rarely see a new trader that'll stick to stock market after he figured out about futures trading.
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January 14, 2022, 12:08:26 PM
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It seems you are right that many newcomers prefer trading like gambling. The reason they do this seems predictable is to get quick and big profits, actually this is very worrying because they can become greedy. Whereas greed must be avoided in trading because it is feared that there will be losses, especially greedy nature can easily attack anyone. Moreover, this concerns the personality which is certain if it is attached it will be difficult and it will take a lot of time to get rid of it so that it really disappears.

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January 14, 2022, 11:31:10 PM
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Maybe. Some understand the risk and some just act blindly. Those who act without thinking end up losing. Trading can be highly risky. There is no room for greed and impatience. If you have a risk appetite, then only you should enter into the market.

Trading as you said is very risky and the reason some choose gambling is because they believe one day luck will contact them. Trading is based on analytical skills but gambling is not that way is a game by random. Regarding greed also , they both have something in common because you see a gambler that will keep playing to win back his money and trading too is greed that take people out of the market.
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