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June 06, 2026, 06:55:02 PM
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Buying Bitcoin and holding for Long term like 5/6 years undermining of short terms price fluctuations is good.

This requires self discipline and been patience, undermining the fact that it's volatile.

Alot of people gains more profits keeping for long -terms which am a wistness to it.

I can recall when I buy a coin and leaves it for a long period of 4 years coming back to see the profits was really am existing one.
It's advised to hold for long term expecially when your decretional income is always coming and your reserve funds is there.
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June 06, 2026, 07:02:16 PM
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Yet they still do it right? That's where bItcoin is different, discretionary income or not you will be rewarded, it's why I believe that some people wouldn't even mind, Bitcoin for some it worth all the inconvenience that comes with it.

they don't care and the truth is Bitcoin makes it make sense on the long run anyways.

Sometimes the " don't put yourself in a tight position because you want to buy Bitcoin " advice is for you alone, many people don't care, having Bitcoin is a must for many.
You make everything sound like Investing in Bitcoin guarantees success. Well as you said the advice is for everyone even if they don't work with it. For me I think it much better and safer to do it right because anything that's worth doing is worth doing well. Most people get blinded by the benefits and profits they can make that's why they don't care and invest with whatever ever means they can even if they'll be investing with non discretionary funds.

It's best if we don't get careless and invest with only discretionary funds because it's not just about having some Bitcoins but about protecting our stash to survive that long because investing with non discretionary funds often leads to selling prematurely due to not taking care of your necessary expenses. These expenses are yours to solve and if you don't it is only a matter of time before it comes knocking.

 
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June 06, 2026, 07:48:48 PM
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It does seem as if investing and gambling are on a spectrum in terms of there are ways to engage in behaviors that are more towards one end of the spectrum or the other end of the spectrum, but they are likely not completely pure concepts in terms of being separable from one another as sometimes folks like to talk in terms of black and white absolutes.

Trading does seem to have a lot of aspects that are closer to gambling rather than to investing, even though there are ways that trading can be employed to hedge risk, so in that regard be incorporated as part of an overall investing strategy. and likely if any of us are wanting to consider trading as investing we would likely need to attempt to trade in bigger and wider gaps to offset risks or to serve as insurance rather than considering trading in terms of shorter term profit making. but I suppose there are some folks who can become really good at trading in such a way that they feel that they are not really taking very many risks because they are striving to set up their orders in such a way to take both sides, so they are merely hedging their bets which could end up fitting more within a kind of investing perspective rather than a gambling perspective.

I would also speculate that the more informed that you are regarding various factors, then it is likely that you are more able to set your bets in accordance with the probability of one outcome versus another outcome, so in that sense there would likely be less risk-taking involved. and it would fit less on the spectrum of gambling, even though some folks will still want to characterize such perspective and practices as gambling.

To me it seems difficult to even put certain types of investments on a spectrum of gambling, but i also get where y’all are coming from. Let’s say you’re buying something like gold or silver, you’re getting exactly the amount you paid for and your investment can’t vanish even if market prices fluctuate(the gold will always stay in your hands). Not really a gamble.

Maybe the gambling factor comes into play when the underlying asset is ignored by the investor and the only focus is the market price and higher returns, like waiting for something to go parabolic without understanding/ being interested about what you were investing into/ or wanting to actually own the asset, if it wasn’t for money.

Now if someone is risking their asset they didn’t previously gamble on, like the people that got their Bitcoin liquidated now, because they were over-leveraged, then we’re getting into high gambling territory. This has nothing to do with sane investing anymore.

But if i actually wanna own a part of x company trough good and bad times, because i believe they deliver a great value, i dont see how it’s gambling(then owning a company would be gambling too), its simply providing liquidity to where actual value is created. It’s more like keep tuning a car till it can win a race and beyond.

To me this was the original thought behind doing investments, tho i agree that this is getting more and more lost, but people who invest with strong principles will succeed more.

Now sure if i go into 100 companies in 5 days, it’s nothing else than gambling, because no one can possibly gather enough info about the underlying assets in this short amount of time.

Now if we go into the section of investing were no more underlying asset is bought, like derivatives, we’re coming closer into gambling territory.

So i see why the both are on a spectrum.
I suggest the structure of investing and gambling as a spectrum is very useful than treating them as completely separate ways.


At the investing end of the range, options are categories on the expected Long term values and cash flows.
Time sees to be prolonged, ricks is now managed through diversification and patiences.

This makes the investors expecting a unique and positive return over repetitions. Sometimes at the gambling ends one outcome are often dominated by Chance over the time horizon.
This may have statistical edge.
Massive returns are gotten by luck rather by ownership of a productive asset.
At the point the value to be gotten may be negative after the costs.
The expected value may even be negative after costs.
 Trading is all about risk management, time , participant behavior.
Therefore a well disciplined investor can buy Bitcoin,  hold for years and sell in due time without having fear .
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June 06, 2026, 07:55:51 PM
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If you want to invest in Bitcoin, you should definitely invest in the long term. Because the more you use it according to the discretionary rules, the more Bitcoin you will be able to accumulate. Bitcoin should be invested in the long term, not in the short term.
In this current situation, Bitcoin investment plays the most effective role, if you do not invest in Bitcoin at the right time, then you are ruining your future. Therefore, you should definitely hold Bitcoin investment in the long term by using discretionary income.
The right time to buy Bitcoin is now. Every time you have the opportunity to buy Bitcoin, waiting for a particular time or day is not the best approach. Instead, buying at the moment when you think of purchasing Bitcoin is advisable.

Waiting for the best time to buy Bitcoin is just a waste of time and opportunities. Starting to buy Bitcoin now is the best way to enter the market because buying at a specific time is not better than when you should have bought. It is important to understand that investing in Bitcoin is a long-term commitment, and this is the mentality every investor needs to adopt.

Market timing is really tough… constantly waiting for the perfect moment can cause you to miss good opportunities. Having a long term mindset for Bitcoin is definitely smart.
That said, it's not always ideal to say 'buy right now' because the market can still drop more in the short term. A safer way is to start small, buy gradually over time using DCA method, and only use money you can comfortably afford to lose.
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June 06, 2026, 08:00:34 PM
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This is not an eternal truth that investors cannot invest aggressively. Yes, sometimes the market goes down a lot and some investors see that time as a big opportunity and they consider that opportunity but sometimes they invest aggressively and again when they feel that now they should continue investing normally, then they do that.

I think you should be careful not to paint aggressive investing as something that can only be done during a dip in the market. Certainly anybody can decide to go aggressive with their investment for different reasons and not only just because there is a dip in the bitcoin market. Perhaps if their income has gone up or maybe they received a bonus, hell it could even be because they have spent their time learning more about bitcoin and their conviction grew more or it could just be that they want build their position faster. So surely a dip can be a reason for an investor to go aggressive but it definitely isn’t the only reason.



A lot of people gains more profits keeping for long -terms which am a wistness to it.

Well thank God for those people’s lives but even with this testimony of yours, there is no guaranteed holding period that ensures a profit even though we expect bitcoin to be profitable in the future.

Prioritize Self Custody, Don’t Trust Your Future To A Login Screen.
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June 06, 2026, 09:18:14 PM
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Our measurement of our total quantity of discretionary funds that we have available will show us the absolute maximum that we could put into bitcoin, yet an overwhelming majority of the time, it is not going to be to our advantage to maximize our bitcoin investment based on how much discretionary funds that we have available.  For example, if we have been investing $100 per week into bitcoin for the past 20 weeks from our discretionary income, and maybe we have also been building up our back up funds with $50 per week, and maybe we have been discretionarily consuming around $50 per week during that same time, yet maybe we also have some special event coming up.  For example, perhaps our sister is getting married within the next 6 weeks, and we have several family members coming from out of town, and maybe we know that there is a certain level of poverty and difficulty in the family, and perhaps for the next 6 weeks we may well need to help the family and invest around $40 per week into the wedding and the various preparations, so after some consideration we decide that we will ONLY be able to invest around $80 per week into bitcoin for the next 6 weeks, and we would save only $40 and discretionarily consume only $40.. So we are trying to find a balance and to contribute towards the expenses of the family, even though we don't have to do that... but we consider such contribution is the best thing to do.  

Of course, not everyone is going to decide the same in terms of how much to allocate or what kinds of changes to make to our budget based on other discretionary ways that we could spend our available discretionary funds.

People just coming into Bitcoin will understand it better if it can be explained this way with life realities. A lot of people get it wrong when they hear discretionary funds. Assuming their discretionary funds is $200, they think they must invest all $200 at once and when severe emergency happens, they have no option other than panic selling even at a loss.

DCA is a flexible strategy. You don't need to make it rigid for yourself. If there's need for adjustment based on real life situation, you should adjust accordingly. What matters is consistency.
JJG has the best way of explaining things, what makes it easier and better is the real life examples he gives.

This scenario is why I keep saying the final decision lies with the investor, we can only suggest what we think/believe is best or right approach but each individual has to understand their own circumstances, assimilate the information and make the final decisions that aligns with their financial plans and realities.

There’s no one size fits all to investments, you have to learn and practice to know what works for you and how best to go about it.
Consistency is the key.

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June 06, 2026, 09:41:38 PM
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Yet they still do it right? That's where bItcoin is different, discretionary income or not you will be rewarded, it's why I believe that some people wouldn't even mind, Bitcoin for some it worth all the inconvenience that comes with it.

they don't care and the truth is Bitcoin makes it make sense on the long run anyways.

Sometimes the " don't put yourself in a tight position because you want to buy Bitcoin " advice is for you alone, many people don't care, having Bitcoin is a must for many.
You make everything sound like Investing in Bitcoin guarantees success. Well as you said the advice is for everyone even if they don't work with it. For me I think it much better and safer to do it right because anything that's worth doing is worth doing well. Most people get blinded by the benefits and profits they can make that's why they don't care and invest with whatever ever means they can even if they'll be investing with non discretionary funds.

It's best if we don't get careless and invest with only discretionary funds because it's not just about having some Bitcoins but about protecting our stash to survive that long because investing with non discretionary funds often leads to selling prematurely due to not taking care of your necessary expenses. These expenses are yours to solve and if you don't it is only a matter of time before it comes knocking.

As what I like Bitcoin to be notice and acquired by many, I also don't like it sounds like a ponzi scheme. Maybe best to have realistic approach and better not to hard sell Bitcoin, because potential and how useful it is on digital age will provably attract people to acquire Bitcoin.

Maybe on investment side yeah people really got attracted on possible profit to acquired, but its reasonable also to consider the risk so that people will get aware on certain things that they need to avoid. Then with that they can erase any greedy thoughts on Bitcoin. If they can make everything so well like they could able to pull a discretionary funds from their income then this will add great advantage to make their investment sustainable.

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