Bumping Rules (as Applicable to Newbies)

[KingsDen]

I have recently stumbled on posts or questions about Bumping in the forum, I want to speak(type) in the perspective of the newbies.

1. It is not easy to be a newbie (a genuine newbie). There are many troubles and challenges for a genuine newbie because they are unaware of many unofficial rules in the forum.

2. I saw where an established member was blaming other established members for answering newbies who bumped old threads asking some questions (reasonable or not), that got me thinking.

3. When a newbie creates a new topic asking a question like "What is a merit and how will I get merits". Immediately, users will jump in with answers like this "Why not move this question to Beginners and Help", "I will advice you to use search option because these kinds of questions have been asked million times" Maybe some kind users will provide a link for the newbie to read.

4. Now if a newbie uses the forum search and searched for anything, it will take them to a random thread in the forum. After reading they will feel like to comment. After commenting it turns up to be an old thread. Users will still question the newbie why not create a new thread instead of bumping an old thread.

5. I think this is a problem(dilemma) to newbies. When I was faced with this problem as a newbie, I resorted to creating too many topics which nearly got me into troubles.

Solution:
6. If it is too bad to bump old informative threads, can the forum be programmed in such a way that;
A. Forum searches will be sorted to keep the most recent posts first in search results.
B. Any post more that 120days should automatically be locked to avoid bumping.

Question:
7. Why frown against bumping?
Infact some old threads are better of than what we see now. Just go to bitcoin discussion forum(which used to be my favourite board) what you will be seeing are topics like " Should I buy bitcoin ", "Will bitcoin reach $100,000", "What do you understand by bitcoin ", "Is it time for the bubbles to burst?". Compare these topics to the topics of 2 to 3yrs ago, you will find a compelling reason to use a time machine and travel to the past.

8. If unintentional bumping of old threads is prohibited, it therefore means that the legacies of our past heros are in danger. Their ideas, contributions and help might be buried forever.

Reasons to Bump a Thread and my thought about them:
9. For learning purposes especially by newbies (acceptable)
10. For marketing of goods and services in their respective boards(acceptable)
11. By author when there is a compelling need for the topic (acceptable)
12. By author for merit purposes (uncommon and unacceptable)
13. Bumping of multiple threads by same author in the same board (unacceptable)
14. Bumping to spam the forum ( unacceptable)

Note: If there are cast on stone rules about Bumping that could lead to the defaulters temp ban, pam ban or account restrictions. Someone should let me know, I am yet to see.

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[BlackHatCoiner]

It depends on the subject of the thread.

If there's a topic with a title of “How to get r, s, z values given a raw transaction?”, it's reasonable to continue replying to it, instead of creating another one, if you still have questions regarding this procedure. On the other hand, if you have a question regarding the price, please don't wake up a ten-pages long “Will Bitcoin exceed $100,000 this year?” thread.

8. If unintentional bumping of old threads is prohibited, it therefore means that the legacies of our past heros are in danger. Their ideas, contributions and help might be buried forever.

I think you've overanalyzed this. Why would you want to bump a thread whose main topic has already been discussed?

[isaac_clarke22]

3. When a newbie creates a new topic asking a question like "What is a merit and how will I get merits". Immediately, users will jump in with answers like this "Why not move this question to Beginners and Help", "I will advice you to use search option because these kinds of questions have been asked million times" Maybe some kind users will provide a link for the newbie to read.

In the first place, newbies should spend more time reading. They are still new in this forum and they do not know how stuffs work here.

4. Now if a newbie uses the forum search and searched for anything, it will take them to a random thread in the forum. After reading they will feel like to comment. After commenting it turns up to be an old thread. Users will still question the newbie why not create a new thread instead of bumping an old thread.

That is on them. The date of when the thread was created is indicated for a reason, and they should know that they are about to reply to an old thread.  If I can recall correctly, there is warning before you reply to an old thread.
Mostly I report those post especially in B&H.

8. If unintentional bumping of old threads is prohibited, it therefore means that the legacies of our past heros are in danger. Their ideas, contributions and help might be buried forever.

Nope. This one made me recall of the "Hall of Fame" thread made by tranthidung. For their specific contribution/s through replies, I usually bookmark them sometimes, and I don't think I am the only one doing that.

[GeorgeJohn]

Compare these topics to the topics of 2 to 3yrs ago, you will find a compelling reason to use a time machine and travel to the past.

really no topic on this forum that has not be discussed before, and at least almost thirty percent (%30) of topics are related or similar topics, this new topics created by new people is also base on the information they acquire or obtain from the forum, they are trying to make something different from before.

So referring to the old threads of three to four (3 /4) year's interval, it can never be like the current threads, because the old users of the forum write with thinking, target and experience of what is about to affects bitcoin, support of bitcoin and the development of bitcoin, so the civilization of cryptocurrency generally makes people not to reason perfectly before composition or creating a meaningful thread about bitcoin.

[Pmalek]

You are free to bump an old thread if the information you share there is valuable enough to do that.
The information in OP could be outdated, a link might not be working, the software suggested in it might have been abandoned, the topic might be pointing to services, sites, or members that have in the meantime scammed others, sadly passed away, or are nowhere to be found. In cases like that, it's perfectly fine to make a new post in that thread and update it with brand-new information or recommendations.

What is frowned upon is writing low-effort posts in such threads, like thanking the user and telling them how useful the thread is. Such posts don't improve the thread in any way. I have also seen spammers advertise their own sites or services in old threads and that shouldn't be done either.

[KingsDen]

I think you've overanalyzed this. Why would you want to bump a thread whose main topic has already been discussed?

It seems that you are missing the point. Let me get clearer here. Take a look at the subject "Bumping Rules (as applicable to Newbies).
Old members don't go on bumping old threads, I likewise do not do that.
How about a newbie who just stumbled on the post, what was discussed is not peculiar to his problem and he/she needed clarifications. What should the newbie do?
Leave the thread and come and create a new thread about same matter. Then, who should teach a newbie to do this?
I strongly stand with this quote below;

As long as the reply is still relevant, I personally won't report it. The average users who reply to old threads are those who found them via search engines (mostly new users). Maybe they found some answers from that thread and created new questions with replies to get more satisfying answers than the existing ones.

After all, replying to a topic is easier than creating a new topic.

That is on them. The date of when the thread was created is indicated for a reason, and they should know that they are about to reply to an old thread.  If I can recall correctly, there is warning before you reply to an old thread.
Mostly I report those post especially in B&H.

You keep telling us what you will do, tell what a newbie should do.
There is a warning, but did the warning prohibit going on to comment? No.
The warning stated that you will only reply if it is absolutely necessary or there is a compelling reason for that. Tell me how a newbie will not think that his comment or question is not necessary.

Though it might be fine. But I sure know what genuine newbies suffer.
I don't know how you grew and escaped newbie status, but I am lamenting on their behalf because I know what I passed through.

When I discovered that bumping old threads was an offence, I resorted to creating so many topics. Some topics that I don't deem feet to be created, I'll run to the @The Pharmacist for help via dm.

[Smartvirus]

4. Now if a newbie uses the forum search and searched for anything, it will take them to a random thread in the forum. After reading they will feel like to comment. After commenting it turns up to be an old thread. Users will still question the newbie why not create a new thread instead of bumping an old thread.

Most likely, the stated above might be the outcome but  the forum has already designed a warning caption in red pigment for that. It vividly warns that, your about to bump a post that have not been commented in for such a long time hence, its only left for one to consider it too out dated and slide by.

Of course, its normal to want to air some view on an old information. While I was in the higher institution, there is always room for some research and sometimes, I comes up as, a topic that have been treated in the past and still your expected not to provide same information. How then do you go about it, you present some of its facts in your literature review, do your findings whole been focused on its limitations and just like that, you've come up with a different view point.

Same applies here. Should you find some flaws worth correcting, possible updates, questions on points,  you could be a little creative and make it elaborate while presenting done facts as well. Again, you could reference the thread and the memory of the thread is reserved as well with just that action.

Solution:
6. If it is too bad to bump old informative threads, can the forum be programmed in such a way that;
A. Forum searches will be sorted to keep the most recent posts first in search results.
B. Any post more that 120days should automatically be locked to avoid bumping.

8. If unintentional bumping of old threads is prohibited, it therefore means that the legacies of our past heros are in danger. Their ideas, contributions and help might be buried forever.

Should the warning come up which I'm sure it does, it could be seen as intentional but, it matters not if your contribution that comes after is valid or haven't been said too many times in the context of the thread in varying forms. Though, creating an entirely new thread as well as siting the old one would be a win-win for everyone. You just have to be creative.

[KingsDen]

Same applies here. Should you find some flaws worth correcting, possible updates, questions on points,  you could be a little creative and make it elaborate while presenting done facts as well. Again, you could reference the thread and the memory of the thread is reserved as well with just that action.

Very well said. All the suggested alternatives tobumping are very cool for a member who has been in the forum for a while. As sensible as they are, a genuine newbie will not be aware of these. For instance a newbie might not know how references are done as it concerns this forum.
I am of the opinion that most times newbies actions should be overlooked as it will form certain memories they could look back at.