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January 08, 2022, 01:31:51 AM
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I would still prefer buying the dip over dollar cost averaging. Using both strategy would be even better. Keep buying the dips as much as you can to maximize your profit. And then regularly buy after certain interval no matter what the price is so that in the long run you still make some good profit. You don't need to time the market properly if you are planning to hold long term. So if you can't afford to afford to invest at regular interval (doing dca), then at least try to buy whatever you can afford to lose during the dip.

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January 08, 2022, 05:23:15 AM
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Agree because buying a dip reduces the risk here and if the price goes up the profit will double the risk is higher for short term business. Many times when you buy at a higher the price often goes down investors want to make a return for long periods of the year even decades as investors have a larger time horizon, their target returns for each investment also tend to be larger. The most profitable currency to hold is bitcoin the most convenient for newcomers is the long term hold of bitcoin, even if they have little knowledge of crypto.
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January 08, 2022, 06:18:40 AM
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Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.
Lol this is a joke? do you know that the biggest profiting these days are those who are buying short term? we knew that bitcoin take long time before climbing so those who buy and sell are the one you makes money.
those people that has good in TA and can make speculative correctly and so when they buy now they can sell later with profit.
Agree because buying a dip reduces the risk here and if the price goes up the profit will double the risk is higher for short term business. Many times when you buy at a higher the price often goes down investors want to make a return for long periods of the year even decades as investors have a larger time horizon, their target returns for each investment also tend to be larger. The most profitable currency to hold is bitcoin the most convenient for newcomers is the long term hold of bitcoin, even if they have little knowledge of crypto.
if you can analyze when the dip will happen so you can accumulate more right?
but what if not?
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January 08, 2022, 06:32:07 AM
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You are absolutely right that long-term holders get a bigger profit than short-term traders as it is so difficult to guess where the market will go as there are too many factors that can influence on market. Personally I follow the strategy of buying almost every month some Bitcoin and other solid crypto currencies, it is my monthly investment.

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January 08, 2022, 03:29:06 PM
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You are absolutely right that long-term holders get a bigger profit than short-term traders as it is so difficult to guess where the market will go as there are too many factors that can influence on market. Personally I follow the strategy of buying almost every month some Bitcoin and other solid crypto currencies, it is my monthly investment.
You could say it because you are doing it and had seen the results but these people are in short-term traders might be doing good as well more than you. Maybe you should also have to tried becoming a trader and to see what is really happening.

It could really hard to say what is more profiting and which is not it is because we don't have the same expertise in life. Besides, holders and traders are two different situations. Well, some can justify that trading is profiting and some could say long-term holders give them the best results. It is exactly two different stories and have also different results depending on how we deal with it.

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January 08, 2022, 03:40:10 PM
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You are absolutely right that long-term holders get a bigger profit than short-term traders as it is so difficult to guess where the market will go as there are too many factors that can influence on market. Personally I follow the strategy of buying almost every month some Bitcoin and other solid crypto currencies, it is my monthly investment.
You could say it because you are doing it and had seen the results but these people are in short-term traders might be doing good as well more than you. Maybe you should also have to tried becoming a trader and to see what is really happening.

It could really hard to say what is more profiting and which is not it is because we don't have the same expertise in life. Besides, holders and traders are two different situations. Well, some can justify that trading is profiting and some could say long-term holders give them the best results. It is exactly two different stories and have also different results depending on how we deal with it.
More on your own personal understanding and what kind of investment you are desiring to proceed.

Long-term holders can maximize their profits and can earn really huge when the strong bull start to pump back and deliver the target profits,

while with short-term trader, they can earn small each trade and when you add everything if they've got more winning trades than losing one,

they are also gaining decent benefits
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January 08, 2022, 04:11:05 PM
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I would still prefer buying the dip over dollar cost averaging. Using both strategy would be even better. Keep buying the dips as much as you can to maximize your profit. And then regularly buy after certain interval no matter what the price is so that in the long run you still make some good profit. You don't need to time the market properly if you are planning to hold long term. So if you can't afford to afford to invest at regular interval (doing dca), then at least try to buy whatever you can afford to lose during the dip.
I agree with what you are saying because buying when it dips I think is something that is indeed one of the best to have and the prospect of a higher profit rate.
on the other hand this is like an action that can't be done every time because it takes momentum and time for this but it's still good enough to do when it can happen

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January 11, 2022, 05:39:35 AM
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Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

Hodler and short-time traders both are benefited for their own purposes. Hodler invested money for the long term cause they have other income sources, they are able to manage their monthly expenses by doing other jobs. so they are able to invest for the long term and get benefits.
On the other hand, short-time traders are taking trading their main job, they do trading to manage their monthly expenses. They invest money for short time, take ROI and use that ROI to live their livelihood or use that ROI to invest in a new project. So they are also benefited.


Of course, people are do what they want.If it's BTC holding or short term trade both are benefited. We can't compare who's benefited more because their needs and situations are totally different. So do what you can, learn from the mistake, make a better move and stay happy.

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January 11, 2022, 01:25:19 PM
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Both are good and profitable but depend on market and research would be must important so i thought BTC holders both are good and invest depend on market.

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January 11, 2022, 02:51:30 PM
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You are absolutely right that long-term holders get a bigger profit than short-term traders as it is so difficult to guess where the market will go as there are too many factors that can influence on market. Personally I follow the strategy of buying almost every month some Bitcoin and other solid crypto currencies, it is my monthly investment.
This works to those who are into long term investment. It’s actually good decision to buy when we have money since BTC is still able to pump in price in the future especially when more industries take bitcoin as form of payment as well as investment. But in altcoins it’s only good for top coins but not in other coins that may lose their value more when they are unable to recover whenever the market is at dip.
I'd rather choose those coins that have strong fundamentals especially when we are holding long-term which is pretty different when we just make a trade as we obviously choose those who are having a huge market volume. That is the basis of how I choose coins and that it seems to work for me but can be different from others.
Well, to buy coins during the dip is the best option but to have a trade during the bearish season is in a huge struggle, in fact, you can neither sell at a lower price, it is a loss, of course.
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January 11, 2022, 09:35:49 PM
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You are absolutely right that long-term holders get a bigger profit than short-term traders as it is so difficult to guess where the market will go as there are too many factors that can influence on market. Personally I follow the strategy of buying almost every month some Bitcoin and other solid crypto currencies, it is my monthly investment.
You could say it because you are doing it and had seen the results but these people are in short-term traders might be doing good as well more than you. Maybe you should also have to tried becoming a trader and to see what is really happening.

It could really hard to say what is more profiting and which is not it is because we don't have the same expertise in life. Besides, holders and traders are two different situations. Well, some can justify that trading is profiting and some could say long-term holders give them the best results. It is exactly two different stories and have also different results depending on how we deal with it.
More on your own personal understanding and what kind of investment you are desiring to proceed.

Long-term holders can maximize their profits and can earn really huge when the strong bull start to pump back and deliver the target profits,

while with short-term trader, they can earn small each trade and when you add everything if they've got more winning trades than losing one,

they are also gaining decent benefits

Actually, both long-term Bitcoin holding or short-term trading are equally profitable as long as we do it well. So it is better to do both than
to have to choose one, but it must be admitted that the risk of short-term trading is much higher. In the end we do need to ask ourselves
which one is comfortable for us to do, because everyone has different choices. Only we ourselves know what is best for us to do, so it doesn't
matter if we have different choices from others. But because I have studied the crypto world well, then I also know how to make profit from
long-term Bitcoin holding and short-term trading, so for me to do both can generate much greater profit than having to choose one.

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January 11, 2022, 10:25:51 PM
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You are absolutely right that long-term holders get a bigger profit than short-term traders as it is so difficult to guess where the market will go as there are too many factors that can influence on market. Personally I follow the strategy of buying almost every month some Bitcoin and other solid crypto currencies, it is my monthly investment.
This works to those who are into long term investment. It’s actually good decision to buy when we have money since BTC is still able to pump in price in the future especially when more industries take bitcoin as form of payment as well as investment. But in altcoins it’s only good for top coins but not in other coins that may lose their value more when they are unable to recover whenever the market is at dip.
I'd rather choose those coins that have strong fundamentals especially when we are holding long-term which is pretty different when we just make a trade as we obviously choose those who are having a huge market volume. That is the basis of how I choose coins and that it seems to work for me but can be different from others.
Well, to buy coins during the dip is the best option but to have a trade during the bearish season is in a huge struggle, in fact, you can neither sell at a lower price, it is a loss, of course.
Long term = Potential/Real use case/Huge support
Short term = Volume/Liquidity/Ranking

You would really be having these common factors if you do tend on what kind of trader are you.You would be prioritizing things over one another.

If you do go for long term then you wouldnt bother or mind yourself on engaging with shorter ones but actually you could still deal with
both sides if you wanted to.
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January 12, 2022, 11:59:45 AM
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Both are good and profitable but depend on market and research would be must important so i thought BTC holders both are good and invest depend on market.
true I totally agree that market conditions are very important to read whether to hold or hold in the short term but if you want big profits the option is to hold on for the long term.

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You are absolutely right that long-term holders get a bigger profit than short-term traders as it is so difficult to guess where the market will go as there are too many factors that can influence on market. Personally I follow the strategy of buying almost every month some Bitcoin and other solid crypto currencies, it is my monthly investment.
This works to those who are into long term investment. It’s actually good decision to buy when we have money since BTC is still able to pump in price in the future especially when more industries take bitcoin as form of payment as well as investment. But in altcoins it’s only good for top coins but not in other coins that may lose their value more when they are unable to recover whenever the market is at dip.
I'd rather choose those coins that have strong fundamentals especially when we are holding long-term which is pretty different when we just make a trade as we obviously choose those who are having a huge market volume. That is the basis of how I choose coins and that it seems to work for me but can be different from others.
Well, to buy coins during the dip is the best option but to have a trade during the bearish season is in a huge struggle, in fact, you can neither sell at a lower price, it is a loss, of course.
Long term = Potential/Real use case/Huge support
Short term = Volume/Liquidity/Ranking

You would really be having these common factors if you do tend on what kind of trader are you.You would be prioritizing things over one another.

If you do go for long term then you wouldnt bother or mind yourself on engaging with shorter ones but actually you could still deal with
both sides if you wanted to.
both parties have different treatment. I think it's up to us which one we prefer to do, because to be able to deal with short-term trading is not easy, and we are required to spend time, energy and psychologically. but many also choose to do both, in the hope that it will be easy for them to find income every day from trading results

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January 12, 2022, 08:19:09 PM
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Both are good and profitable but depend on market and research would be must important so i thought BTC holders both are good and invest depend on market.
true I totally agree that market conditions are very important to read whether to hold or hold in the short term but if you want big profits the option is to hold on for the long term.
Personally I feel it has to do with what you intend doing with bitcoin, if you have plans of Bitcoin being your daily source of income, then you would have to be a day trader. But, if your plan is to be an investor, then you are better off holding it for as long as you want.

Among these two options that are available, day trading carries the most risk, and anyone who has plans to engage in day trading needs to study more on analysis, both technical and fundamental analysis, to be able to help them in making prediction on what the market will turn out to be. Those who simply hold can even just rely on fundamental analysis, because there isn’t much work involved when you just plan to hold your coin.

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This was my strategy back then. Buying the dips, though it wasn't that complex thought for me to do so. As long as it went below of a price range ending with a "0", I am going to buy it if I have the means to buy one though.
At the same time taking profit from it as well, because why not?
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Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.
Yeah you are right hoodlers always win. The reason is that Bitcoin is now much more than a simple coin it has now become the main currency of the internet ,so its price keeps on increasing. Short time traders can get a profit of maybe some dollars but hoodlers earn a lot .Bitcoin's price was not more than 0.004$ at some time but now it's all time high price was 69K$,which is alot .
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Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.
Yeah you are right hoodlers always win. The reason is that Bitcoin is now much more than a simple coin it has now become the main currency of the internet ,so its price keeps on increasing. Short time traders can get a profit of maybe some dollars but hoodlers earn a lot .Bitcoin's price was not more than 0.004$ at some time but now it's all time high price was 69K$,which is alot .
Not all. I mean, only true holders will have their way to succeed but those people who pretend to become a holder will soon give up and leave. The same thing that gonna happen to traders. It really doesn't matter if hold Bitcoin or altcoins as true holders will choose to hold and will keep that faith until the end. The only difference to trading is the risk they'll take. But they choose to take more risk than simply just hold is that because they are comfortable and happy with what they are doing. As for me, they both can be a winner...

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Short time and long time holders all make profit but some are more and some are less. But short time is only a temporary profit for the day but if hold long time it helps to achieve a much larger amount of profit. that's why long time holding is always better

Maybe everyone has a sense of comfort in what he's doing or not.  Sometimes a short time trader is also profitable, if you understand and can do. If you say holder is always better I disagree. Maybe for BTC the price will always reach a new ATH but other coins are not always so. There are times when the btc price correction is far below when you buy. Sometimes the price of BTC goes up and down sharply away from where you buy it. Everyone's thinking is different, I think as long as you always make a profit it's not wrong. Let's trade with what makes you comfortable and profit.

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Short time and long time holders all make profit but some are more and some are less. But short time is only a temporary profit for the day but if hold long time it helps to achieve a much larger amount of profit. that's why long time holding is always better
both of which are profitable. the only difference is the risks and benefits. long-term profits may be very large because many profits can be made such as holding while collecting, selling when the price is reaching ATH, and so on. only, the time it takes to enjoy it is something unknown. however, in the short term, I think he can enjoy their benefits in a short time. although the benefits they get, well, but at least they can immediately enjoy it.

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