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December 20, 2021, 05:59:48 PM
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Finally, I'm not seeing 1xbit as a scammy sites, why? Because they haven't scammed me in person!
You shouldn't follow people's postulate because you don't know if they followed the procedures or bridged the terms and conditions of the site or who knows if truly there were scammed.... So don't just jump into conclusions.

Sorry but that's Fox News logic.

You can't just say a website is not a scammer because it hasn't scammed you personally.

What about the dozens of other scammed users who have complained about that site?

Quite frankly, if everyone followed your logic of not seeing scam websites as scams (as long as they themselves don't get scammed by them), then that would be insulting to the people who went though all the effort to prepare documents, articles, infographics warning people to stay away from scams. Because then who's going to listen?



If you have an example of highroller complaint, please provide it.

In addition to what was already shown by @Jawhead999, I found another example where the user is damaged for 0.10 BTC, and it is not about any newbie, it is a Legendary member with a solid reputation. Therefore, all this speculation that someone intentionally wants to destroy the reputation of that company is not convincing at all.

They were problematic before, they are problematic today, and will probably remain so in the future - the only good thing is that all those who promoted them will destroy their reputation irrevocably and will not be able to participate in any signature campaign when these scammers finally leave the forum.

1xbit stole my winnings almost 1 year ago

Don't trust the guy you're quoting about 1xbit matters because I caught him red-handed changing 1xbit info on Wikipedia a couple days ago (check his trust feedback for details).

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December 20, 2021, 06:34:32 PM
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OP, would you get paid more by creating this thread?
did you get your payment smoothly?
if you get a decent payment, don't you think the money you get is the result of fraud committed by 1xbit against its members?
By continuing to promote the scammer's platform, you are helping them to cheat more. please think.
they haven't tricked you, because you are part of 1xbit's strategy to get more victims. until later, you will get your turn.
Of course, he gets paid for each eligible post with his signature.
The OP is certainly aware of what problems he has with promoting scammers, but he's reluctant to admit he's not really helping scammers because he's not one of them (according to him). Basically whoever helps the scammer operate then he is also a part of the scammer and he cant avoid it. I don't trust the OP even though in general he could have posted something constructive beforehand.

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December 20, 2021, 09:16:01 PM
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I don't really know why you're pained and deceived by your selfish endowments.
 You only knew how to read that I was paid 9$ for the job? Did you become blind when the other user explained why I wasn't paid? Have I ever complained to you that I have been robbed of my coins from 1xbit?
I mean, why can't you just mind your business and are you following me around the forum?
 You're in a campaign that pays you 75$ ,fine that's all of your business and you willingly decided to promote them which make your case different.
 You keep diverting out of point each time you write on my post and you're getting on my nerves 🤐
I told everyone that I didn't join these shit willingly and I can't revoke my actions because it's late already.
 You think if I'm oppurtuned to own a legendary account like yours that I'll not join a good campaign? They won't even delay to pick me @lovesmay

the fact that they pay you $9 regularly is no measure of their good business.
how much of your money do you risk with them? your stance here is based on the $9 they pay you, seriously?

Do you really think that $9 in your pocket is a stronger argument than many accusations against 1xbit?
In the end, you will be paid for this topic, where you defend them directly. if you and other 1xbit promoters don't see a problem here, then it's quite justified all red marks on your profiles.
I don't really have a problem about the points you're all making about this particular matter but you have failed to understand that I said it was done out of ignorance and I never knew directly the implications of taking the actions I made but finally when I discovered, it was too late because I was already negatively-tagged, do I still have a choice??
So you are just coming around to taunt me for a common mistake? I'm I gonna revoke my actions when I don't have a choice?
Please it's high time we grew up

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December 20, 2021, 11:30:06 PM
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'Not all 1xbit promoters are scammers'? More like “Not all dogs are canines”  Cheesy
Moreover, coming from 1xbit scam promoter. Folks, this here has to be one of the most delusional posts this year.

1xbit is the mother of scam currently when it comes to online casinos, the large number of negative independent reviews on the web gives a clue of how many victims they have scammed over the past few years.
If you are a promoter or facilitator of a widely known scam, then you are also part of the scam. You are a scammer.

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December 21, 2021, 05:17:51 AM
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Finally, I'm not seeing 1xbit as a scammy sites, why? Because they haven't scammed me in person!
Are you that self-centered that you don't believe something or someone is harmful simply because they haven't harmed you?  Seriously, are you a teenager?

You shouldn't follow people's postulate because you don't know if they followed the procedures or bridged the terms and conditions of the site or who knows if truly there were scammed.... So don't just jump into conclusions.
In general, that's true, and I'd say it's particularly relevant for sites like Changelly and some others which have a few scam accusations here and there, and some of them haven't been followed up on.  But regarding 1xbit.com, there's ample evidence to suggest that they're nothing but a scam--and the community has acted accordingly.

If you got tagged for promoting them after the consensus was reached to that effect, you fully deserve it.  No amount of text wall pleading is going to change that.

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December 21, 2021, 10:05:20 AM
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what do you mean you didn't have a choice? when they negatively tagged your account you could've left the campaign and worked on getting your negative tagged removed by showing that you didn't know the reputation 1xbit had here in the forum.

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December 21, 2021, 11:54:40 AM
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Don't trust the guy you're quoting about 1xbit matters because I caught him red-handed changing 1xbit info on Wikipedia a couple days ago (check his trust feedback for details).

For a moment I thought you meant @SyGambler, but his trust is in the green - and as for the people who promote that scam (including the member you mention), of course, I don't trust any of them willing to sell their reputation for a few $. I just wonder how many of these accounts were actually bought by 1xbit, and they use them for advertising and to justify their actions.

Here's a task for our forum detectives to try to find where the signature campaign money is actually going - maybe back to where it came from?

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December 21, 2021, 01:30:43 PM
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Don't trust the guy you're quoting about 1xbit matters because I caught him red-handed changing 1xbit info on Wikipedia a couple days ago (check his trust feedback for details).

For a moment I thought you meant @SyGambler, but his trust is in the green
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Lol.  I was referring to Erdogan Grin

I would never say that about SyGambler. We are local board & gambling buddies after all (and hasn't even posted in this thread as far as I can see).

I just wonder how many of these accounts were actually bought by 1xbit, and they use them for advertising and to justify their actions.

Here's a task for our forum detectives to try to find where the signature campaign money is actually going - maybe back to where it came from?

That would definitely be advertising fraud since money would be going back to a bunch of sockpuppet accounts controlled by them.

But I don't see that happening with the newbie manager (CryptoGoonie I think is his name), it would probably be something that among forum users, only @manager_1xbit would be complicit to.

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December 21, 2021, 03:45:25 PM
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I don't really have a problem about the points you're all making about this particular matter but you have failed to understand that I said it was done out of ignorance and I never knew directly the implications of taking the actions I made but finally when I discovered, it was too late because I was already negatively-tagged, do I still have a choice??

So it's all about you again. Based on what you say, you don't regret the fact that your actions help proven scammers, but because you were negatively tagged for it? That's very self-obsessed of you.

So you are just coming around to taunt me for a common mistake? I'm I gonna revoke my actions when I don't have a choice?
Please it's high time we grew up

And yet, you still continue to wear the 1xbit signature...

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December 21, 2021, 03:46:53 PM
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* What if you were inflicted with an infirmity and needed immediate support, maybe loan or sort of, but no body gave an attention to you... I know you would think of going to seek help from the few threads that have been created to help the needy around the globe,but that isn't working any longer and they don't give out money individually....
 Then you have no other sources of income with a half brother that can barely take care of himself,not to talk of you ☺️ and 1xbit offers you a contract that suits you at that point, will you reject it? Be sincere!
I will decline it since I am fully aware that they are con artists, and there are far too many other ways to seek assistance without supporting a scam site in order to profit from the money stolen from innocent gamers. You could have gone down to the local board and asked for assistance if you needed it. I believe that's why there are local boards; we've helped a few members in the past..

*What if your country was crumpled by influx and this was as a result of war which probably turned everyone into revergees:You're offered to work for 1xbit to help out in your present controversy, will you promote them? Be sincere.
The answer is still no! Situations shouldn't change who you are, and your country isn't at war, so I'm still perplexed as to why you chose to promote 1xbit. I was hoping you'd rise through the ranks and become useful but you chose the wrong path, trading your reputation for money.
 
Finally, I'm not seeing 1xbit as a scammy sites, why? Because they haven't scammed me in person!
That's the same as denying the existence of death and despising death bodies because you haven't experienced it.

There are multiple open scam accusations against them on the forum, with transaction proof, but they don't mean anything to you.

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December 21, 2021, 06:05:37 PM
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I don't trust the OP even though in general he could have posted something constructive beforehand.

 Hmm, you've choosed not to. I started this account and every contingencies to revolt my actions, though it wasn't purposeful but the problem is:
If I decide to do that today, will my tags be removed? No! So what the need? I would really love those tags to be removed, seriously
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Seriously, are you a teenager?
You ain't trying to be rude right? Or are you?
What does being a teenager got to do with my post and how does it relate to your replies? Ew!

@igehhh
You claimed that you spoke to me 'bout my actions and I refused to change. Did you ever make mention of offering any help if the need arises? Did you borther to ask me why I did so?
I haven't seen any place in the local board that says y'all have donated to someone who is really sick of an infirmity before apart from contributing for Becky's burial . Ew!
 I thought you had a clever mindset to change people, so why didn't you do the proper thing?
Apart from @brainboss and a few more, I haven't directly had dealings with you in person so I don't believe that would have worked.
I'm still gonna get rid of the red tags and do the proper thing when this tumult is over ! @lovesmayfamilis, get ready to pull your tags outta my account as promised because I might decide to change anytime soon!
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December 21, 2021, 06:16:21 PM
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True. They are indeed not all scammers. The problem is, they are promoting scammers for personal gain. Does that deserve a flag? No. Does it deserve a red tag? Depends.

The logic here is, if a guy can promote a scam casino for any personal gain, it very well may scam you for something else. Obviously the participants don't care about their trust ratings. If they did, they wouldn't join the campaign.

Giving them neutral tags would be just going too easy on them so... They are getting the red.

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December 21, 2021, 06:38:10 PM
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True. They are indeed not all scammers. The problem is, they are promoting scammers for personal gain. Does that deserve a flag? No. Does it deserve a red tag? Depends.
The red tag isn't just for the user, it also acts as a warning not to trust the signature. If I'd manage a signature campaign, I wouldn't want the brand to be associated with negative feedback. It's a big warning to anyone to stay away. The user may not directly be a scammer, but the warning is still justified.

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December 22, 2021, 09:13:02 AM
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@igehhh
You claimed that you spoke to me 'bout my actions and I refused to change. Did you ever make mention of offering any help if the need arises? Did you borther to ask me why I did so?
Nobody owns you anything, so if you're having difficulties, speak up and wait to see if aid arrives. You haven't made any progress on the two issues I discussed with you. (Format for quoting and writing)

I haven't seen any place in the local board that says y'all have donated to someone who is really sick of an infirmity before apart from contributing for Becky's burial . Ew!
 I thought you had a clever mindset to change people, so why didn't you do the proper thing?
Only those who are willing to change can be helped or changed. I've made my contributions to the local board; I'm the third most generous merit giver on the local board, as well as one of the bad asses because I've given out the most redtag to some of our local members who came to the forum with the wrong mindset - our country's image must be preserved at all costs.

Apart from @brainboss and a few more, I haven't directly had dealings with you in person so I don't believe that would have worked.
I'm still gonna get rid of the red tags and do the proper thing when this tumult is over ! @lovesmayfamilis, get ready to pull your tags outta my account as promised because I might decide to change anytime soon!
Your chances of regaining your reputation are nil ( 0) Do not be fooled; if you do not change your thinking, you will likely attract more negative tag. Nobody opposes you, so don't oppose yourself.

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December 22, 2021, 09:49:47 AM
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People projecting 1xbit most of them might be free from scam but this people is the reason why people is being scam, calling 1xbit scam all participating right there are all scammer, we don't have to separate them, they knew that the signature campaign has issued yet they apply for it, for the little basic knowledge all are promoting the rate of scm
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December 22, 2021, 11:28:45 AM
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I'm still gonna get rid of the red tags and do the proper thing when this tumult is over ! @lovesmayfamilis, get ready to pull your tags outta my account as promised because I might decide to change anytime soon!
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You shoot yourself in both knees this way, of course figuratively speaking - because you literally admit that you will promote scam while you benefit from it, and then you may decide to change and be a better person. You may be able to remove one red tag, but I doubt you'll ever be able to remove it all - once you lose your reputation this way, it stays forever.

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December 24, 2021, 02:40:09 PM
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I agree with what the OP said that not all the company in the subject promoter are scammer but technically they are scammer since they decided to work for the company with a lot of fix accusations and this remind of a quote which says "If you want to know what to do with a thief that you may find stealing, I say kill him on the spot, and never suffer him to commit another iniquity."
This is what the forum users did by tagging every promoter of the company as scammer.

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December 24, 2021, 09:34:59 PM
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I agree with what the OP said that not all the company in the subject promoter are scammer but technically they are scammer since they decided to work for the company with a lot of fix accusations and this remind of a quote which says "If you want to know what to do with a thief that you may find stealing, I say kill him on the spot, and never suffer him to commit another iniquity."
This is what the forum users did by tagging every promoter of the company as scammer.
Help scam site spread the word to get more victims, then anyone can be considered a scammer.

In the real world, if you help a robber hide after committing his crime, then you will also be punished with severe punishment. You should never get involved in a case that is known and identified as a scam because you need to know what the consequences will be. Anyway, I've flagged most of them [personal consumption, they can't be trusted].

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December 25, 2021, 05:47:39 PM
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I agree with what the OP said that not all the company in the subject promoter are scammer but technically they are scammer since they decided to work for the company with a lot of fix accusations and this remind of a quote which says "If you want to know what to do with a thief that you may find stealing, I say kill him on the spot, and never suffer him to commit another iniquity."
This is what the forum users did by tagging every promoter of the company as scammer.
Help scam site spread the word to get more victims, then anyone can be considered a scammer.

In the real world, if you help a robber hide after committing his crime, then you will also be punished with severe punishment. You should never get involved in a case that is known and identified as a scam because you need to know what the consequences will be. Anyway, I've flagged most of them [personal consumption, they can't be trusted].
It is what it is. I wonder why the OP still wants to play innocent after promoting scamming casino company when in real world there's always a penalty for people that help thieves to execute their activities in stealing from innocent people.
What surprised me is that there are many threads created in the beginners and help which is more than enough to help the newbies thrive in this forum especially "Factors to consider before joining paid signature campaigns" created by CryptopreneurBrainboss is enough to save newbies from campaign issue.

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December 26, 2021, 10:57:15 PM
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honestly i prefer to leave neutral feedback for people that are promoting this scam casino, leave negative feedback Is still very exaggerated, negative feedback should be used on the scammers account (the casino manager), Is my opinion, i hate this casino because he's been cheating and robbing a lot of people,  i also don't think it's right for anyone to promote them but i still think it's very cruel to leave feedback on the account of all campaign participants, neutral would be good

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