stake.com- Does not have gambling responsibility

[Hamphser]

The way it is now, it doesn't work at all how it should work in any website. And I have to disagree, any respected casino has this functions 10x better. Here we don't have to add 1xbit as a casino..I said respected casino.
bitcasino.io has a way better self-exclusion than stake as example, where at stake even if we have that button, it acts like it doesn't exists. I hope you will improve that at least from now on, not in the future - 1 year from now -.

I don't get it. You were complaining about them having no self-exclusion option, but they do. Once it was shown and explained to you, you started arguing that it should be 10x better and that another casino is doing it better. Also, you are aware of blocking software being available, yet you refuse to use it.
Maybe all you want to do is get your money back and that's what it's all about. You play like normal, but when you lose, you complain that it was because you're an addict and they should have not allowed you to play in the first place. Would that be the case if you won or would you take the money and keep all of that addiction rant to yourself?

You got your 25cents for the post? Are you happy now? Have you used their self exclusion? 24 hours? Sometimes I gamble for 24 hours without sleeping, after such session or during this session I realise it is too much and I want to exclude myself for the next week, does stake has that option? It takes 2-3 hours for 24 hours exclusion to take effect, it does not happen on instant.
Do you know how it is to gamble when you know that you only have a few minutes left after gambling for 14-18 hours with big ammounts, no joke, I am also plat5. Of course you don't know, you just received 25cents for your post.
Stake has no gambling responsability, stop arguing, it is a fact. Even if you say it is the fault of the player, the casino is worse to blame.
On pokerstars, on mozzart, everywhere I play even at this moment after some gambling on 19th of January when I woke up at 6 am and I gambled until next day at 2 pm, I am self exclude a month, on stake I can't do that. On stake the 24 hours wouldve expired, or even those 24 hours might not take effect because the support missclicked (which happens more than you believe, my situation).
I am not here to attack on stake or create FUD, I am here to write facts. Just facts. The moment you take defence of stake you are a spammer, you have no clue what you speak about or you don't know how it is to be raised since you are 12 running to go to casino's which are every 50 meters, this addiction it is not easy, nobody understands you, nobody arround you knows how you can stop or tries to help; everybody is: "STOP GAMBLING". And btw I am KYC lvl 3 verified on stake.

I have to admit that playing almost a day or more is a very long time. I've had sessions of 10 hours, but over 20 is a really serious thing.
I understand very well what you mean, but all I can think of is to simply close your Stakes.com account permanently and just play at those casinos where you have the option to self exclusion immediately.

Whenever you do go past 3-5 hours or something which is out of your important hours or time of the day then its clearly that you have some gambling problem.About self exclusions then this is something a very standard for most casinos nowadays specially with known or popular ones and if theres some sort of delay about effects then its just understandable that you wouldnt do anything specially on making more deposits.
If you do then its up to your own will which the site wouldnt really be having no control over that and when you do lost then its none of their business.

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[TwitchySeal]

Do not give USA laws, as I am not even sure if stakes allows USA players to gamble on their site

It's not a US specific rule, it's just common sense.  If a player self excludes because they have a gambling problem and then sneak back and gamble anyway, they aren't going to get their losses refunded.  The opposite should happen, their money is seized - just like any other prohibited player that chooses to gamble anyway.  I've already said I don't think Stake should keep your money, there should be no incentive for them to allow excluded players to gamble, but giving it back to you would be much worse than them keeping it, since it's giving a problem gambler incentive to gamble, which is why I suggested earlier they find some charity or something and let the player know when they self exclude what will happen to any money they try to gamble with after self excluding.

[Wexnident]

Do not give USA laws, as I am not even sure if stakes allows USA players to gamble on their site

It's not a US specific rule, it's just common sense.  If a player self excludes because they have a gambling problem and then sneak back and gamble anyway, they aren't going to get their losses refunded.  The opposite should happen, their money is seized - just like any other prohibited player that chooses to gamble anyway.  I've already said I don't think Stake should keep your money, there should be no incentive for them to allow excluded players to gamble, but giving it back to you would be much worse than them keeping it, since it's giving a problem gambler incentive to gamble, which is why I suggested earlier they find some charity or something and let the player know when they self exclude what will happen to any money they try to gamble with after self excluding.

What op is forcing here is that he didn't sneak back, he was "allowed" when in the first place he should've been banned (according to his words). Stake has a self-exclusion system though, and afaik you don't need to talk to an admin or moderator to do it. Not gonna say much about what happened since technically, it's not even an issue between us and OP or OP and stake, it's at most an issue between OP and the one he talked about to ban him. Might've left out a few details maybe, but well we'd probably never know tbh. Just apply common sense really, if you were found gambling after a self-exclusion, casinos will not refund you, they'd just kick you out, simple as that.

[wxa7115]

I have to admit that playing almost a day or more is a very long time. I've had sessions of 10 hours, but over 20 is a really serious thing.
I understand very well what you mean, but all I can think of is to simply close your Stakes.com account permanently and just play at those casinos where you have the option to self exclusion immediately.

Whenever you do go past 3-5 hours or something which is out of your important hours or time of the day then its clearly that you have some gambling problem.About self exclusions then this is something a very standard for most casinos nowadays specially with known or popular ones and if theres some sort of delay about effects then its just understandable that you wouldnt do anything specially on making more deposits.
If you do then its up to your own will which the site wouldnt really be having no control over that and when you do lost then its none of their business.

When people begin to disregard important aspects of their life in order to satisfy their desires then that is when we can talk about a problem with addiction.

After all if we take into account the amount of time you need to sleep, take care of your physiological needs, like eating, working and other necessary stuff, most people at most have 5 to 6 free hours a day to do what they want, so someone gambling 20 hours per day is without a doubt disregarding some important aspects of their own life and as such they have a serious problem they need to attend right away.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

I have advised stake that i have a gambling problem in the past they have a 24 hour cooling period so if you self exclude you can

bring yourself back into the game. So for that reason on October 20st i asked eddie personally on telegram as he was my vip to ban me. Then on october 21st

Eddie says i am permanently banned self excluded. Then next week it did not become the case i was let in able to deposit and play and lose $$$.  All i am asking is to return my 2 last deposit made on my account this is not my fault you guys. One of the reason why i wanted him to ban me because i was close to being a platinum and that was a reason for me to gamble away.

( i have attached pictures as well as a post i made almost 2 years ago regarding same issue at askgamblers.com looks like they haven't improved at all)

It's been a quite a while this post was made, and I know that by now, probably this issue might have been resolved, but I would like to chip in a few thoughts for the still active readers.
1. I've never used stake.com, so I probably don't know how their system works, but one sure thing is that no platform anywhere without some form of bugs or errors that tends to affect the system once in a while, even as large as Facebook is, people still encounter lots of errors and bugs from time to time.
2. Op asked that his account be banned, but the admin didn't, and when op found out, he still went ahead to deposit to the account twice, played games which I believe he lost, no body forced him to deposit to that account in the first place, he even went ahead to play games and after loosing, he wants stake.com to refund he's money, that's awkward 😂, but I might as well have gotten every thing wrong, anybody who understands better should kindly explain to me.
But my question also is, why didn't he leave that account and create another account instead?

[dunfida]

I have to admit that playing almost a day or more is a very long time. I've had sessions of 10 hours, but over 20 is a really serious thing.
I understand very well what you mean, but all I can think of is to simply close your Stakes.com account permanently and just play at those casinos where you have the option to self exclusion immediately.

Whenever you do go past 3-5 hours or something which is out of your important hours or time of the day then its clearly that you have some gambling problem.About self exclusions then this is something a very standard for most casinos nowadays specially with known or popular ones and if theres some sort of delay about effects then its just understandable that you wouldnt do anything specially on making more deposits.
If you do then its up to your own will which the site wouldnt really be having no control over that and when you do lost then its none of their business.

When people begin to disregard important aspects of their life in order to satisfy their desires then that is when we can talk about a problem with addiction.

After all if we take into account the amount of time you need to sleep, take care of your physiological needs, like eating, working and other necessary stuff, most people at most have 5 to 6 free hours a day to do what they want, so someone gambling 20 hours per day is without a doubt disregarding some important aspects of their own life and as such they have a serious problem they need to attend right away.

20 hours per day? thats fucking insane.  

Spending long time in gambling does already indicates that you do have a big problem and now you've requested for some self exclusion but still continue to make deposit
but on the time you have lost then you do sue them out and asking for a refund? What kind of bullshit thinking is that?

[stomachgrowls]

I have to admit that playing almost a day or more is a very long time. I've had sessions of 10 hours, but over 20 is a really serious thing.
I understand very well what you mean, but all I can think of is to simply close your Stakes.com account permanently and just play at those casinos where you have the option to self exclusion immediately.

Whenever you do go past 3-5 hours or something which is out of your important hours or time of the day then its clearly that you have some gambling problem.About self exclusions then this is something a very standard for most casinos nowadays specially with known or popular ones and if theres some sort of delay about effects then its just understandable that you wouldnt do anything specially on making more deposits.
If you do then its up to your own will which the site wouldnt really be having no control over that and when you do lost then its none of their business.

When people begin to disregard important aspects of their life in order to satisfy their desires then that is when we can talk about a problem with addiction.

After all if we take into account the amount of time you need to sleep, take care of your physiological needs, like eating, working and other necessary stuff, most people at most have 5 to 6 free hours a day to do what they want, so someone gambling 20 hours per day is without a doubt disregarding some important aspects of their own life and as such they have a serious problem they need to attend right away.

20 hours per day? thats fucking insane.  

Spending long time in gambling does already indicates that you do have a big problem and now you've requested for some self exclusion but still continue to make deposit
but on the time you have lost then you do sue them out and asking for a refund? What kind of bullshit thinking is that?

This is just a piece of cake for someone who do play  115 hours  of poker continuously
https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/longest-marathon-playing-poker-by-an-individual
Well this talks about world record which does shows on how gambling addiction could take you that far.

[Tellek Garing]

Gambling addiction is as bad as a virus so everyone needs to be careful to avoid falling into the addiction of any form, I don't see any fault of stake.com here as they just acting on the professional were as an operator the responsibility rest on the player to prepare your self against many things such as addiction, if you have a 24 hours cool off system on stake then you should also know that comes with its terms and conditions and once you failed to follow those condition the site can not be held responsible for whatever happens to your deposit.

[saxydev]

One thing I don't understand? What is wrong with you? Why everyone of you assume that you will just do a new account? I never had 2 accounts on stake, member since 2017, why would I have 2 accounts?! Why would I create another? To have problems with withdraws, even with my addiction this is common sense. Stake does not have self exclusion, that's it. They act without remorse and not in good faith in the relation with the customer. This is already a fact, nothing to talk more about it.

As example on a casino I play a lot, they just banned me manually for 1 month because I was playing last weekend too much (this is gambling responsability from the casino.).

[xpolinn]

One thing I don't understand? What is wrong with you? Why everyone of you assume that you will just do a new account? I never had 2 accounts on stake, member since 2017, why would I have 2 accounts?! Why would I create another? To have problems with withdraws, even with my addiction this is common sense. Stake does not have self exclusion, that's it. They act without remorse and not in good faith in the relation with the customer. This is already a fact, nothing to talk more about it.

As example on a casino I play a lot, they just banned me manually for 1 month because I was playing last weekend too much (this is gambling responsability from the casino.).

That's the point. Having two accounts and all those things may lead to other even bigger issues with a casino or a bookmaker.

[TwitchySeal]

Stake does not have self exclusion, that's it.

Why do you keep saying that?  They do.

https://stake.com/policies/self-exclusion

[joeperry]

Stake's self-exclusion policy, number 9, bullet 1. I think what it says is very clear to me that you should not attempt deposit or place wager, how come it's not your fault where you are the one who deposit?

You should not attempt to, deposit or place any wager on any of your accounts from which you have requested to be excluded during your selected self-exclusion.

[Furious 7]

When people begin to disregard important aspects of their life in order to satisfy their desires then that is when we can talk about a problem with addiction.

After all if we take into account the amount of time you need to sleep, take care of your physiological needs, like eating, working and other necessary stuff, most people at most have 5 to 6 free hours a day to do what they want, so someone gambling 20 hours per day is without a doubt disregarding some important aspects of their own life and as such they have a serious problem they need to attend right away.

Yep, I agree with what you say this must be handled by experts, at least he must be accompanied by a psychiatrist to make this addiction not worse.
20 hours a day means that he only takes 4 hours to rest, Majan and others.
I think if this continues then it is not only not good for finances but it is also not good for the life of the addict.
There have been several cases like this that have even resulted in the addict's death due to this, such as one of Akio Kashiwagi's names who once appeared because he died from addiction to gambling and spent his days in gambling.
Don't let an incident like this happen again to other people, gamble properly because gambling for a long time doesn't necessarily make you profit very much too

[Questat]

Stake's self-exclusion policy, number 9, bullet 1. I think what it says is very clear to me that you should not attempt deposit or place wager, how come it's not your fault where you are the one who deposit?

You should not attempt to, deposit or place any wager on any of your accounts from which you have requested to be excluded during your selected self-exclusion.

Per stake rule, it's the user who is at negligence for depositing money while under self-exclusion, if stake will not return the amount deposited, they should not be questioned because they are just implementing their rules, and rules are meant to everyone, no exemption.

[saxydev]

Stake does not have self exclusion, that's it.

Why do you keep saying that?  They do.

https://stake.com/policies/self-exclusion

Have you used it? What when it says contact support for self exclusion, you need that button act right on the moment, not after waiting 20 minutes to get a stake automatic inter message as template. And when you are disperate to gamble and they ask you 20 security questions before they self exclude you from the account, you just close the chat and go back to gambling, they do nothing.
As heroine kills, gambling is a drug, and stake does not take care of it. They make the casino easier, easier to deposit, easier to gamble, easier to ruin your life by advertising streamers who gamble with high % bonuses and low chance of risk of losing. Man do you hear yourself? This is a crime. People die, families destroyed, this is what is about.

Stake's self-exclusion policy, number 9, bullet 1. I think what it says is very clear to me that you should not attempt deposit or place wager, how come it's not your fault where you are the one who deposit?

You should not attempt to, deposit or place any wager on any of your accounts from which you have requested to be excluded during your selected self-exclusion.

Huh? You got your 25 cents for the post? Are you able to post on topic?

Even this is dumb, because in other parts of the terms they are saying that you are not allowed to have more than one account, but here they acknowledge that people are having more than 1. Anyway I had a discussion with my vip host that I can bring a secondary account to plat 1 for a special bonus and I said no, I will have only on my account on my name.

What you don't understand is that I don't blame stake. This is crypto gambling, even if stake is active for not even 5 years yet ( soon to be ) etc. You can stop the blockchain from receiving deposits, but you can stop the player from playing those funds.
Respect the gambling as it should be for fun, not to make money. Don't be just angry of making money every day and night. Let's all understand how addiction looks like, and their design is made for addiction. They will always be on profit.

GUYS the moment when we gamble we know we will get only 96% of our money back on long term, don't do same shit as I do, at least I can afford.

[Fritwakky]

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It is clearly written that you are not allowed to make "deposit or place any wager ... during your selected self-exclusion". In this case, the user was informed by the casino employee or their customer service representative that his account was permanently banned. Therefore, it cannot be said that the account closing process was ongoing.

[shasan]

20 hours per day? thats fucking insane.  Cheesy

Spending long time in gambling does already indicates that you do have a big problem and now you've requested for some self exclusion but still continue to make deposit
but on the time you have lost then you do sue them out and asking for a refund? What kind of bullshit thinking is that?

I do not think that any genuine person will take part on gambling for 20hours or something like that. But it might happen for someone who is addicted on gambling and is not mentally stable. Gambling responsibility should be stand for them. As these types of people cant stay away from gambling they should have such feature. I am not a fan of stake, if stake has such a feature then I do not think this accuse worth anything. And to communicate with moderator or admin regarding gambling responsibility is worthless.

[Tellek Garing]

20 hours per day? thats fucking insane.  Cheesy

Spending long time in gambling does already indicates that you do have a big problem and now you've requested for some self exclusion but still continue to make deposit
but on the time you have lost then you do sue them out and asking for a refund? What kind of bullshit thinking is that?

I do not think that any genuine person will take part on gambling for 20hours or something like that. But it might happen for someone who is addicted on gambling and is not mentally stable. Gambling responsibility should be stand for them. As these types of people cant stay away from gambling they should have such feature. I am not a fan of stake, if stake has such a feature then I do not think this accuse worth anything. And to communicate with the moderator or admin regarding gambling responsibility is worthless.

Yep gambling responsibility is very important and from the look of things 20 hours of gambling time is bad timing and you end up with severe addiction that becomes hard to get out of, it leads to bad conditions and losses afterward.

Self-exclusion may be the best way to go about this withdrawal process but the fact is not everyone is lucky to go through that road that is why gambling responsibility is very important and a good aspect or basis for gambling.

[stepwilli]

20 hours per day? thats fucking insane.  Cheesy

Spending long time in gambling does already indicates that you do have a big problem and now you've requested for some self exclusion but still continue to make deposit
but on the time you have lost then you do sue them out and asking for a refund? What kind of bullshit thinking is that?

I do not think that any genuine person will take part on gambling for 20hours or something like that. But it might happen for someone who is addicted on gambling and is not mentally stable. Gambling responsibility should be stand for them. As these types of people cant stay away from gambling they should have such feature. I am not a fan of stake, if stake has such a feature then I do not think this accuse worth anything. And to communicate with moderator or admin regarding gambling responsibility is worthless.

I think that depends on the person or on the situation because what if the person doesn't have a job and he is consider gambling as a job or just a past time because when you do not have a job, your life is bored and your looking for ways to entertain your self or you look for ways to earn. Some says treating gambling as a job is wrong but IMO it is not wrong as long as your gambling stats is in profit and not in a loss.

Some person cant get enough of gambling and spending a few hours is not enough for them so they can gamble for extra long hours. I will do the same only if i have a lot of money because my current situation always annoys me the fact that i can only gamble under half an hour or lesser than that due to limited funds.

[judeafante]

20 hours per day? thats fucking insane.  Cheesy

Spending long time in gambling does already indicates that you do have a big problem and now you've requested for some self exclusion but still continue to make deposit
but on the time you have lost then you do sue them out and asking for a refund? What kind of bullshit thinking is that?

I do not think that any genuine person will take part on gambling for 20hours or something like that. But it might happen for someone who is addicted on gambling and is not mentally stable. Gambling responsibility should be stand for them. As these types of people cant stay away from gambling they should have such feature. I am not a fan of stake, if stake has such a feature then I do not think this accuse worth anything. And to communicate with the moderator or admin regarding gambling responsibility is worthless.

Yep gambling responsibility is very important and from the look of things 20 hours of gambling time is bad timing and you end up with severe addiction that becomes hard to get out of, it leads to bad conditions and losses afterward.

Self-exclusion may be the best way to go about this withdrawal process but the fact is not everyone is lucky to go through that road that is why gambling responsibility is very important and a good aspect or basis for gambling.

20 Hours of gambling straight even for a week will cause deterioration of mind and body but that is what casino operators want on their players, they want as long hours as they can, that is why many casinos do not have windows, clocks and they supply their players with energy drinks and perks so they can keep gambling, the more hours they gamble the more profit they are going to make.