Ban request for user: franky1

[JayJuanGee]

@JJG
firstly i am not for ordinals
i even provided a easy solution that does work because the core devs done a similar practice in the past which set precedent that its possible and does not involved re-orging the blockchain

and no fees are not the solution.. asking everyone to just pay more is meaningless. as pools can add a ordinal/nft in their own blocktemplate and the fee they pay goes to themselves. thus no cost, no loss. thus fees wont stop it if it costs a pool nothing to add it

secondly using fee as political power is surprising the other groups solution. strangely they used to hate bloat in blocks and wanted a fee "freemarket".. now they want bloat and want a political fee system (facepalm)

my stance has always been bitcoin development on the bitcoin network. where bitcoins exist. to allow more bitcoin payment transactions per block.. its never been about more wasted metadata script nft bloat or crap data bloat. its more payment transaction count utility on the bitcoin network. progressively, not large leaps (to counter most of the stupid insinuations other people think are the only options going forward)

seems they change their stance/opinions to fit the whims of whatever sponsor they meet
as for me providing proof
take the segwit debate. even the core devs admit it was done the way i keep saying it was. they are now proud of it too.. . thus i dont see why the madhatter clan are trying to set a different narrative..
(theirs: there was no split there was no fork there was no controversy, it was all soft and everyone wanted it)

i have shown them even the block data, the bips and the codebase. the mandatory stuff he block rejections the unnatural votes.

they have seen it many times. thus when they try to say silly stuff to try to change history..  after 3 months of chill by them.. they play dumb and forgetful.. they keep then asking me for proof even though they know the answer. they just want me to waste my time showing them the data again. then cry that im the one trying to keep talking about it

but they never show their proofs of their narratives. apart from confirmation bias social quotes from things like other forum people or twitter. so yea i tell them to stop wasting time do some research and come back when they provide proof of their claims because proof of my claims has been provided many many many times
and is easily available

heck even lead maintain Wlad admits core was branded core as a name to be the center of information, development and the reference client (central point of failure) and also on his exist he again admits about he core being central point of failure

yet the madhatter clan are trying to pretend something else.

here is the thing. when i do detail responses of technical stuff including links. most of those posts get deleted. or get told its too technical and to instead ELI-5 it.
or that i am wrong becasue im just rambling some nonsense they cannot understand..
 or left in history from years prior. where by new mentions ifthe topic is questioned again.. these new resppnses then get deleted.. which then leaves gaps in the conversation where it looks like i have not mentioned certain things. which some use as pretending that im confusing people by being vague or not complete.

i then re write a brief dumbed down version but try to include links
then i dumb it down a bit more and ask people to do their own research
then i dumb it down more and then get accused of not knowing anything becasue im not scientific enough.. (facepalm)

then i get peed off that the messages are not even given the effort to be read by a mod to even check if the content is valid or not..  to see if it meets the rules. so i do quick blasts of messages which some stick. which is where the confusing small scope snippet bits come in where some people dont get the whole context. because i had to limit the context or the context got deleted

these small brief (non walls of text) messages is where i have not spoonfed all the detail but request people to do some research so that i cant be blamed for me spoonfeeding them bad information or being a dictator
(EG if i responded in 5 messages between 5 other peoples messages and only posts 2 and 4 were kept. it looks messy)

the information exists.. even with just a google search and 30 second of time .. yet  certain people would rather spend hours making excuses to avoid simple research or get my posts deleted rather than face the truth that opposes whatever team/company/agenda they are defending
and yes. i have been called synonyms and analogies and comparisons to dictator many times by blackhatter and his work husband doomad. which is why when it comes to anyone being a dictator being mentioned in a topic where its obviously subtle leading to starting a reail accusation related to me being one in further posts
it happens so often you can spot the sliding in of a certain topic to then start a new argument about it..

. i can see the inferences that are ready to be made because its the same game of subtly directing a discussion into dictator finger pointing session. whereby the usual crowd LOVE to then point the finger at me as deflection. so i sometimes beat them to the punch..

again it looks messy. but when they sing the same songs of [subtle buzzword insertion] pre-empting the obvious next phase by calling me the [bussword]. i prefer to skip a few of their chest beats of their singing sessions and just get to the conclusion of their next game.

yes it looks messy but with all the post deletes and such there is no point wasting time playing their game in sync and step by step. i might aswell act like half my messages will be deleted anyway and just get to the conclusion
as for if my post was ontopic or not about the mass of deletes today.
it was about NFT on bitcoin (to which ordinals is the brand name or a type of NFT, which is on bitcoin). and where people were asking about solutions to it. which all my deleted responses in recent days were ontopic and offered a solution

yea achow does not read the posts to check if the rules were met.. he just deletes on sight, if a post is made by my name its deleted.. deleted precisely for that reason
"franky made it"
funny thing is achow is recently(couple months) on a massive power grab.  wanting to add extra hierarchy levels of moderation everywhere.. even on github where by he is writing the rule book and making the internal merge privilege devs the mods..

meaning a more closed door circle jerking by the Dev empire..

seems he does not like outside/independent review, scrutiny, critique. he wants a cultish clubhouse of ass kissing ACKers. of the same 3 sponsoring companies (brinks/ chain code labs/blockstream) all pushing for the same roadmap. thus no defiance

but dare i say that. oops just did

seems most of the dozen brethren of the mad hatter defence league have made an appearance in this topic in recent days.. just maybe 2-3 more have yet to chime in to defend their buddies.  but yes its the usual crowd im having to spot time and time again.. (no surprise)

I appreciate your various answers here Frank, but it seems to me that you are even more guilty than me in terms of providing walls of text that tend to devolve into a bunch of so fucking what?  What's are the points that you are making and why are such points relevant to make right now and in the way that you made such points?

To the extent that I even understand what you are saying, let me see if I can explain my point of view a bit MOAR better.  

To me, it hardly makes any difference if you are making some arguments in this thread to describe the various ways that you are correct about your perspective in bitcoin and the various ways that it is broken or that there are colluding people who are not allowing your messages to resonate.. whether through Achow, Gmaxwell or combination of other forum members (whether influential and important members or not), and it also likely does not mean much of anything if you are absolutely correct in your views and the way that you present facts, logic and you come to the most correct conclusions, because you have to persuade the right people to want to act in agreement and concert with you to make the changes that you believe are necessary in order to reach whatever the fuck might happen to be your objective, which in the end would be what?  

Remember the build up for segwit took place largely in 2016/2017 and some drama triggered signaling at such a level that it passed and then went through a process of getting activating.  If you want to undo segwit then it likely has to go through a similar process, but the fact that it has largely been active for more than 5 years and people/companies have been building bitcoin upon it, it is likely not going to get taken out in any kind of way, except maybe some incremental changes could be made if you could achieve some kind of consensus in your view in order to motivate progress to go in the direction that you would like.. so what I am saying is the fact that you might be the smartest person and maybe you are the most correct, you have the burden of proof and the burden of persuasion to motivate others to act in terms of overturning or altering the status quo, so maybe that could be part of the explanation why so many members in this forum get pissed off at you because there seems to be some lack of practicality to be complaining about water that already flowed under the bridge, and I am not even suggesting that some of your other concerns might not be addressable, but it's not like you are going to get a bunch of people to start to agree with you and to act upon your ideas unless you are also getting them to work on your visions and/or projects to the extent that you are able to motivate others...

Do you have a book coming out? or do we just need to read your various posts in order to figure out how we are supposed to act in terms of supporting your various visions, to the extent that any of us might be able to understand how we are supposed to act and that we are motivated to actually take steps in that direction.

( v sarcasm v )
please sir can i have the kings permission to use references that are analogies or synonyms of dictatorial, such as dictate, dictator, totalitarian, oppressor.
( ^ sarcasm ^)

You have a very unfriendly discussion style. Do you enjoy attacking anyone who talks to you?

to be frank about frank he is not rude to me but in general we agree on LN being a possible threat to BTC.

On the topic of NFT and ordinals hurting btc I tend to see some of the threats they could be but as a long time miner I see them clogging blocks and helping miners.

Its funny the frank thinks ln a block de bloat and NFT/ ordinals are both bad.

In a way I kind of think of NFT/ordinals as  a sophisticated way to clog the chain to help miners and to counter balance the damage done by LN network and fees for miners.

So In my half assed opinion since frank does not like LN in theory he should like NFT's and ordinals.

I in this particular case I am asking frank do you think my idea of not/ordinal neutralizing LN action is wrong? If so why?

As anyone can see I am not against frank but am interested in what he thinks.

I don't really agree with some of your views Philip in regards to the extent to which these various NFT/ordinals make much if any difference to mining, even though surely there can be ways that they end up taking up block space because some people might get excited to take up space on the blockchain to get their various kinds of messages to go through and to be permanently attached to some UTXOs... ..but I do appreciate some of your ideas in regards to how it seems that franks various positions are contradictory in their nature - especially if frank is opposing various ways that bitcoin transactions have been gravitating to layers outside of the base layer of bitcoin and that the NFT/ordinal scripts promulgated/generated/discovered by Casey Rodarmor do seem to attempt to use bitcoin's base layer rather than going to outside layers..

So yeah it seems that Franky's position is somewhat contradictory - and maybe Franky is suggesting that some of the various software changes that involve both segwit and taproot make these kinds of ordinal/NFTs easier to accomplish so in that sense, he is trying to use such impacts of the software changes as a way to whine about some of those earlier software changes should not have been made in the first place.. so therefore he does not like it.. And, probably I am stating Franky's position incorrectly.. even though, I still did appreciate your (Philip) way of framing the seeming contradictions in Franky's positions as you currently understand them to be.

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When franky says they delete his posts even if it's on topic, he doesn't lie, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5438853.msg61731503#msg61731503

That's really awkward seeing someone talking with a ghost on a topic. Lol.
At this point I no longer believe that moderator(s) from that part of the woods are political dictators, I believe this is something personal and would suggest franky1 to avoid that haunted part of the forum, as there are 2 angry ghosts just waiting for you. Maybe you should try other boards to test a theory, if you got censored again where achow and gmaxwell hold no power, we should all reconsider using this forum. (They will not censor you as long as you don't break any rules), ( which you won't ).

I have been a member since 2016, never met them, however I do get a positive vibe from Gmaxwell, not so much from achow.(different minds vibrate on different frequencies).

[BlackHatCoiner]

to be frank about frank he is not rude to me but in general we agree on LN being a possible threat to BTC.

I've never seen you touching sensitive subjects, though. Lightning, SegWit, Bitcoin developers, 8 decimals. These are some of the most unproductive conversations you will ever have with franky.

When franky says they delete his posts even if it's on topic, he doesn't lie, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5438853.msg61731503#msg61731503

When a moderator says he's banned from the Dev & Tech board, he doesn't lie either. Even though I'm still unsure of two things;

• Why banning from specific sub-boards, and not from the entire board?
• Why letting banned user post and has his posts deleted, instead of not allowing him to post in the first place?

That's really awkward seeing someone talking with a ghost on a topic. Lol.

I removed my post in that topic, it should be better now.

[DooMAD]

At this point I no longer believe that moderator(s) from that part of the woods are political dictators, I believe this is something personal and would suggest franky1 to avoid that haunted part of the forum, as there are 2 angry ghosts just waiting for you.

The whole idea is that he is supposed to avoid posting in that part of the forum.  That's why his posts are being deleted.  I don't believe it is personal in regards of the mods' decision.  If franky1 were capable of only posting his beliefs in relevant threads and not posting a bunch of rabid conspiracy theories and outright lies, generally dominating the thread and diverting it off-course, his engagement would likely still be welcome in that subforum.  

But he is incapable of seeing reason.  Every single topic has to devolve and distort into going over the same old tired repeats about franky1's fixation with the scaling debate and his hatred for what Bitcoin is today.  He can't help himself.  He's stuck in the past, desperately clinging onto a fantasy.  It's tedious and tiresome.  He won't rest until every last topic is derailed to focus on his obsession.  Relentless and unyielding.  

It's just not conducive to having an environment where everyone can contribute and be heard.  He's simply too noisy, disruptive and downright obnoxious for any other voices to be heard.


//EDIT:  and his reaction below embodies this precisely.  Anyone rational, if this topic were about them, might pause to think "Oh, maybe I should dial it down a few notches.  Maybe I am taking things too far".
But no, franky1 just wants to escalate and point fingers.  He can't conceive that his conduct might be an issue for others.

[franky1]

doomad you know exactly why im obnoxious to you and your dozen or so recruits.. dont pretend that it applies to all millions of bitcoiners/many thousands on this forum

however
YOU are the one that wants to control my personality
YOU are the one that wants to control my words
YOU are the one that wants to control how i say my words
YOU are the one that wants to control where i say my words
YOU are the one that wants to control who sees my words

YOU want to control what your own recruits see.
YOU tell your recruits not to do research and take your narrative for granted

it says alot more about you then it says about me

as for me talking about certain bitcoin things.. yep its a bitcoin thing.. i am not talking about orange juice (love that stuff) in every post

even now with the whole NFT/ordinals, which are only possible due to a flaw in the past. (oops you called permissionless allowance deadweight bloat a "feature"(facepalm))
even as far back as how the anyonecanspend opcode got changed to be treated as a softening of the consensus rules about 'permissionless' (default:isvalid verification bypass) treatment of transactions that use that opcode and subset opcodes of similar softness. have ramifications that are now being seen today as a sub-sub class of opcode misuse of the same scheme. so it does have relevance
as do the stuff in between

you dont want certain provable facts of the past mentioned because then it reveals real fixes that can be done now and in the future by their relevance to changes done in the past

[Out of PATIENCE]

franky1 can be annoying and sometimes misguided but I'm rooting for his freedom and against censorship. a ban request?  wow, so many others should be facing a ban first.

[JayJuanGee]

franky1 can be annoying and sometimes misguided but I'm rooting for his freedom and against censorship. a ban request?  wow, so many others should be facing a ban first.

The concepts of freedom and censorship need some context, so when you reference those ideas without explanation, it is not easy to know what you are talking about.

I will concede that maybe some members have gone overboard in their making a request that Franky should be banned - nonetheless, the idea of getting banned and/or punished in various ways happens to be within the basket of tools available to admins/mods in order to figure out if a member had gone overboard in his/her conduct, and so discussion of the potential of his getting banned or requesting that he gets banned seems to be a fair talking point, as long as the prompting of the discussion has some kind of legitimate basis that goes beyond personal feelings or ad hominem attacks.  

Of course, if any of us have seen Franky's posts and the ways that he interacts with other members and with various topics, we likely would come to differing conclusions regarding whether we believe that banning is warranted, some other kind of punishment or to conclude that Franky had not crossed over any lines that justify the punishments that some members believe that he deserves.  

I have seen quite a few of Franky's posts, I have interacted with him in various threads, and sometimes I have found the contents of his posts to be frustrating for me to figure out, yet I hardly claim to be any kind of Franky expert, and surely if I was told that I had to be the deciding vote in regards to some spectrum of punishments that were being considered for Franky, then surely, I would feel that I would have to mull through the details of various alleged offensive conduct more closely, so sometimes it is much easier to take one side or the other when you are not really having to make the decision, and perhaps part of the reason that Franky continues to be allowed to post is that there is quite a bit of freedom that already exists in this forum in order to allow some of the sometimes extreme posts.. and surely, sometimes it might be easier.. or more palatable to merely delete some of his posts rather than to completely ban or suspend him, even when it does seem that he is breaking already well-communicated forum rules when he posts in sections in which he had already clearly been told that he was banned from posting within those sections.

Another possibility could be that a ban from certain parts of the forum might seem as if it is a permanent ban, but if there is a period of compliance and seeming rehabilitation (send Franky to re-education school while he is kicking and screaming the whole time.. hahahahahaha), then perhaps a "permanent" ban might end up being reduced to something in which he would be allowed to return on a "trial basis.".. ... and yeah, I would not necessarily hold my breath, but I would also never say never when we have people who exercise discretion in various ways and sometimes they change their minds in regards to certain topics... including decisions that they made at earlier times based on earlier facts and circumstances that might no longer be relevant.. or at least less relevant.

[franky1]

firstly i am not here to spoonfeed kids
i choose who i want to talk to and help
and i choose who i see screaming out mistakes which i choose to correct.

when kids start demanding i tell them things in certain ways and link them and then they tell me how i should talk and respond and what topics i should talk about and what topics ii should not
and how i shout kiss the ring and treat them like kings
.. um no thanks
and tell me to not speak native english but instead speak google translate compliant english.
.. um no thanks

i am not their employee or slave
all their cries says more about them than me

their goal is that they want to shut me up. and they do it by annoying me and insulting me then spinning around afterwards and turning themselves into victims so they can cry to moderators

maybe they should get on with their lives and do their own research and just stop being idiots that cry when they dont get their feed

yes i am not mr nice guy(i used to be). but when there are a dozen idiots playing cry baby screaming my name. im not going to be mr happy

so maybe they should just stop poking the bear and then crying to mommy when they get bit

oh and one last thing
if they dont understand consensus (consent) where they think bitcoin should be permissionless..
and i then use an adult analogy.. that:
suggesting when a group of girls practising non-consent=NO . yet a group of guys want the girls to live under a softer regime where abstinence is YES by default(facepalm) and pretend there is no consent system(facepalm).. and should allow some guy to slip in his co** whether they abstain or dont give consent..
(co**=code)

should have been a big enough nudge for their minds to interpret how their mindset is wrong by their (wrong)thinking that non-consent, no permission, abstinence is not a good way to live life in a community that actually did and should use principles of unity of following principles of consent..

instead of taking that life lesson.. they went screaming on a rampage of crying to moderators and also putting negative feedback on the trust rating. that i used an adult concept they still failed to understand.

its time they grew up

get on with your lives
i am not interested in joining your religion which requires me to be a boyscout choir boy that has to get on my knees and ass-kiss

i am independent and will say whats on my mind, my opinions and stuff i have researched
its a discussion forum not a bible, not a scholars white paper, not a legal document

oh and if people have more browser bookmarks/favourites related to forum statistics like DT rating and who deleted whos posts and merit awards, and gets alerts/notifications/alamr bells ringing about posts deleted.. and such.. but you dont have bookmarks about block explorers and tx mempool stats.. utxo data and such..

then that shows you are more interested in the social drama than bitcoin(you know who you are)

[DooMAD]

oh and one last thing
if they dont understand consensus (consent) where hey think bitcoin should be permissionless..
and i use an adult analogy.. that:
suggesting when a group of girls practising non-consent=no . yet a group of guys want the girls to live under a softer regime where abstinence is YES by default(safepalm) and pretend there is no consent system.. and should allow some guy to slip in his co** whether they abstain or dont give consent..
(co**=code)

should have been a big enough nudge for their minds to interpret how their mindset is wrong by their (wrong)thinking that non-consent, no permission, abstinence is not a good way to live life in a community that actually did and should use principles of unity of following principles of consent..

Putting aside the fact that comparing code to an act of sexual assault is repugnant and you're clearly some sort of sociopath, it's still a deeply flawed analogy.  Softforks are opt-in.  And at any point someone can opt out again by downgrading their client to an older version.  That means all the people running the softfork code have given consent.  They don't need your consent because you are choosing not to be involved in the thing they have consented to do.  Therefore, it's none of your business what they do.  Do what you want in your own bedroom (node).  Other people can do what they want in theirs.

Your complaint is effectively that no one should be allowed to do anything without your explicit permission.  And yet you deny being an authoritarian.  

On top of that, you still can't provide any code that would prevent future softforks.  For all your screeching about "social dramas", you are the one who wants everyone to commit to a social contract where they promise not to code softforks.  Is that really the best you can come up with?  It's pie-in-the-sky nonsense.  Completely unworkable.  Please stop telling us we're the ones who don't understand Bitcoin when your ideas are this utterly farcical.  You just look foolish.

[franky1]

doomad

its time for you to grow up. make one decision and stick with it, for your benefit

A. im a totalitarian dictator that has code causing everyone to be my slave
B. im irrelevant, cant change anything myself and have not changed anything and so you are wasting your life crying about me.. so you can put me on ignore and move on with your life..

choose wisely and stick with it
and realise

my footnote that appears below my every post has not changed
its MY OPINION and people should do their own research

i am not the one telling people how to talk or about what categories of a forum they should be limited to or how they should only talk in the queens english

then think about who is showing all the dictatorial signs of control pretending they are part of some elitist monarchy that want to control and dictate what they approve of and how others should get out the community if they dont agree with ... YOU

you only think with the mindset of cult recruitment thinking if they do not meet your application standard they should get out of bitcoin

so choose:
A. im a totalitarian dictator that has code causing everyone to be my slave
B. im irrelevant and move on with your life

i on the other hand will continue to just speak like a commoner. and do as i want becasue its what i want.

[DooMAD]

doomad

its time for you to grow up. make one decision and stick with it, for your benefit

A. im a totalitarian dictator that has code causing everyone to be my slave
B. im irrelevant, cant change anything myself and have not changed anything and so you are wasting your life crying about me.. so you can put me on ignore and move on with your life..

choose wisely and stick with it

First off, code doesn't enslave people.  If you offered up some new code, that would give people a choice (freedom = good).  You aren't giving people choice, you are presenting a list of demands (servitude = bad, the opposite of freedom).  If you still can't understand why your outlook is entirely ass-backwards, maybe you need to do more research on the matter.  

As for what you are, I think I summed it up pretty succinctly in this post:

He has all the hallmarks of a successful cult leader, if it weren't for that fact that hardly anyone listens to him.  

You'd be dangerous if anyone drank your Kool-Aid.  Which is why I'll never ignore you.  If you're going to present ridiculous arguments in an attempt to sway impressionable newbies to your perverted cause of social contracts for what can or can't be coded, I'm going to be there to set the record straight and point out all your flawed reasoning.  If you don't like it, come up with better arguments.  What were you going to propose next?  A social contract where users agree not to double spend?  That's no less absurd than what you're asking for Devs to agree to.  

You're like the blockchain equivalent of an Incel.  Preaching toxic hate, bitter and resentful, lashing out at the world because you can't get what you want.  You honestly believe your hate is justified.  Some easily-misled people are taken in by that kind of brazen audacity, in the same way some people are drawn to loudmouth-human-garbage like Andrew Tate, Alex Jones, Donald Trump, et al.  And that's precisely what you're counting on.  You want people to buy into the hate.  You want to spread the FUD and get people hooked on your deluded conspiracy theories.  You want to twist the narrative and have people believe your attempts to re-write history with outright lies.

Not on my watch.

my footnote that appears below my every post has not changed
its MY OPINION and people should do their own research

And the personal text under my avatar hasn't changed either.  I'll continue to call out FUD and lies where I see them.  Notice how I haven't been giving you a hard time in the Grayscale thread?  You're still a little unnecessarily combative in there, but seemingly not overtly dishonest or coming up with irrational conspiracy theories in that topic.  You aren't diverting the discussion off-topic to talk about your misguided views on scaling.  You actually manage to display some restraint there, which proves you are capable of being reasonable when it suits you.  And I've seen you do the same in other threads, too.  But at soon as the topic is SegWit/Scaling/Core Devs/LN/etc, you suddenly turn into some 'Incel-esque' raving lunatic and start spouting nonsense which others feel compelled to address.  And that's when I'll pop up to offer my opinions.  Cause and effect.  Action and reaction.  Keep a lid on the crazy and I won't intervene to apply some rationality to proceedings.  It's really not that difficult (for most people).

[franky1]

doomad you pretend you are correcting fud
yet the events of 2017 where we butt heads the most. i can back up my narrative with blockdata, code and bips and you keep on telling your buddies not to look at that and just follow your cult hymn sheet
(heck even the core devs you pretend to defend and pretend to be involved in, themselves admit to their flaws, so its odd that years later you still cling to certain narratives and notions.)

i have always given you opportunities to back up your narrative with data(research). but you only rely on quotes you found in the forum of social confirmation bias of people that already followed your narrative. rather than real hard data

you pretend im a cult leader or [insert insult] because that is the only dream you live in. a lifestyle of cults and opposing cults. when your unable to poke at the common sense stuff i say.

i am not recruiting anyone. not=r am i trying to ass kiss nor ask for ass kissers. i keep telling everyone to do their own research. find independence

your the one telling people how, who and what they should speak, where they should and shouldnt speak and what topics people should and shouldnt talk about

and when that fails you get your recruits to cry to moderators to try to get me banned

your antics say more about you then they do about me

one day you will grow out of it.. we can all hope
goodluck with your life.

[DooMAD]

i can back up my narrative with blockdata, code and bips

No.  You really can't.  You're borderline illiterate.  You can't accurately interpret what you read half the time.  Just because you can point to some code, it doesn't mean you've accurately described what the code does.  You do this time and again.  You jump to a flawed conclusion, several people (individuals with minds of their own) disagree with you and then you drone on about how those people haven't done enough research because they didn't reach the same flawed conclusion you did.  It's getting a little old now.

Notice how seldom anyone actually corroborates what you say?  People have been looking at your "proof" of what happened in 2017 since 2017.  In all those years, why are you still the only one claiming it's all an elaborate cover-up?  Where are the users who see things the way you do?  Are you suggesting that I'm so powerful on this forum that I've manage to silence all those who might share your view?  I mean... I'd take it as a compliment if I didn't find it so hilariously far-fetched.  No.  The truth is, you're just an imbecile who fails to understand what he reads, but then confidently announces that it's everyone else who is wrong and won't back down, even when confronted with incontrovertible evidence that you're talking out of your arse.

you get your recruits to cry to moderators to try to get me banned

I didn't ask anyone to start this topic.  This is just, once again, you failing to conceive that your actions might have consequences.  You drove people to do this, not me.  Paranoid delusional, much?

[franky1]

ok doomad you keep on talking to your dozen buddies to keep you warm at night
just because 12 people tell you what you want to hear. doesnt make you correct

its funny how when you get debunked the only last straw you can pull is my literacy..
again for emphasis.
this forum is not a legal document its a relaxed discussion forum.
if you think i am borderline illiterate. here is a test

1F Y0U C4N7 UND3R574ND 7H15 S3N74NC3 7H4N 17 15 Y0UR
L173R4CY 5K1LL5 7H47 4R3 L4CK1NG

if you need people to speak in a very very limited version of english for you to understand it. that again is saying more about you then me

the english language is a thing of beauty, there are many dialects of it.

oi me ol mucker owz ya mah
hey dirtbag, how's ur mum
Good afternoon old fellow, how is your mother?

they all mean the same thing. and are all perfectly fine english, should you dare vacate your house and explore the other area's of the country and actually talk to people around england

i dont try to sound like an elitist. i dont need to speak the queens english. if i want to speak like a commoner, i can.
most of the time i actually avoid using techno babble and jargon. so that normal people can understand things in normal terms using real world analogies. rather than recently made up buzzwords to sound like an elitist dev, making up new words that have no real meaning, just created to have some special techno-babble language of superiority

anyway to your other points
there are thousands of people talking about the bitcoin scaling debates, hundreds of topics of such
i know you want to invade those topics and talk about promoting your favoured subnetwork, but thats you being blind to whats actually being discussed

so yea stay blind if thats what you want and pretend its "just franky"

but maybe, just maybe, take some time to look outside your own echo's.. even your recruits are starting to see passed your narrative and see whats actually happened

.. maybe thats where your anger really lays you loosing recruits into your cultish narrative
oh well, its your own time your wasting

oh and ill remind you again even the core devs are happy admitting what they did. so i am still unsure why you plays these games for years pretending devs didnt do things they are now happy to admit they did.. did you miss the memo?
or is this another of your amnesia faults you wish to blame your mistakes on

[digaran]

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oi me ol mucker owz ya mah
hey dirtbag, how's ur mum
Good afternoon old fellow, how is your mother?
Snip.

Ok, the first part is easy to understand, about the second part I'm not sure, I mean why would anyone ask about someone's mother on the street when they want to greet each other? Lol, if you live in my country and ask someone about their mother there is a 99% chance for you to get murdered unless they're your best friend. That accent though, Manchester or birmingham?

Jokes aside, I don't think you are unable to communicate properly, actually you can deliver the message loud and clear, it's just that you have been crying wolf for so long without anyone to back you up on them, so it's a bit hard to take your side and stand by you all the time, and when you get no support from others, you'd think everyone is in a special circle, I haven't seen anyone to back you up on your conspiracy theories, even though they are interesting to know about, but difficult to believe.

At the end of the day, end users really don't care what both parties say, it's not like they are going to protest for every single change in the rules, because we are used to abide by the laws of central authorities, it's in our nature and when the time comes, we are also capable of revolting it just needs enough momentum buildup.

[DooMAD]

its funny how when you get debunked the only last straw you can pull is my literacy..
again for emphasis.
this forum is not a legal document its a relaxed discussion forum.
if you think i am borderline illiterate. here is a test

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if you need people to speak in a very very limited version of english for you to understand it. that again is saying more about you then me

the english language is a thing of beauty, there are many dialects of it.

oi me ol mucker owz ya mah
hey dirtbag, how's ur mum
Good afternoon old fellow, how is your mother?

they all mean the same thing. and are all perfectly fine english, should you dare vacate your house and explore the other area's of the country and actually talk to people around england

i dont try to sound like an elitist. i dont need to speak the queens english. if i want to speak like a commoner, i can.

Thank you for proving my point.  I call your reading comprehension into question.  You somehow reach the conclusion that I'm referring to the way you type.  And yet you think you can read code?   

[franky1]

it's just that you have been crying wolf for so long without anyone to back you up on them, so it's a bit hard to take your side and stand by you all the time, and when you get no support from others, you'd think everyone is in a special circle, I haven't seen anyone to back you up on your conspiracy theories, even though they are interesting to know about, but difficult to believe.

i do love laughing at those silly mindsets
the mindsets that idiots think im looking for support, idiots think im looking for back up

there have been people that have been against doomads group scripts. but they thought they should play the recruitee game of repeating my words like a script.. i have called those  repeating me idiots too


im not the one trying to recruit anyone
i just want idiots to stop being idiots, just repeating scripts..

its just when those that say stupid stuff that i have seen doomad say, like a script.(and even those repeating me like a script) then they earn the idiot tag by not thinking independently

the reason why i repeat myself is because there is a group of about ~12 idiots(doomads losing a couple so is trying to get a few new ones to replace them) that just say the same crap as doomad. on repeat and thus before their stupidity goes viral. it needs correcting

my repeats are as a result of crap i see wrote. not as the cause

alot just dont care about doomad or have been attacked by him they gave up.

doomad and his chums (you can spot them always backing each other up) get angry that i correct them and i dont need people to back me up. i use DATA. SOURCE MATERIAL

its the doomad buddy group that has the need to recruit idiots to back each other up. and then use each other as quotes to back up their story. their proof is each other. (echo chamber/confirmation bias)

i am not the one that wants or needs ass kissers. i have data stats and reality on my side. im just not scared to say it when ignorant people start insulting anyone that dares say it

i have given the 12 recruits of doomads mantra plenty of opportunity to get some data, code or statistic. and all they reply with is social quotes of each other and posts of confirmation bias messages..

plus unlike doomads cult(where he wants everyone to sing the same songs..) there are hundreds of  hundreds of THOUSANDS of bitcoiners that have their own minds. and they make their own topics about bitcoin scaling, said in their own ways. that ask about onchain scaling. not subnetwork crap
...
so if you want data.. that shows the 12 idiots working together on the same scripts and backing each other up
well lets use loyces merit stats.. that way you cant say the data is manipulated by my thoughts.
look at the usual merit cycling of the same dozen people in this topic that side with doomads mantra are always meriting each other
then look at the topics doomad(and those that just sound like doomad) group is in and who comes to their rescue to defend that narrative. same dozen people

their anger is their salepitches are not gaining momentum of going viral thus their subnetwork is not populating to the speeds they hoped for 7 years ago

yet there are a whole lot more then his silly dozen that have independent minds wanting onchain scaling. thousands of people. they say things in their own way, their own opinions and their own words, just nt getting involved in the doomad drama

doomads chums are subnetwork adorers, acting as failed sales men that have doomad and those like doomad spreading the same crap snake oils salesmen scripts..

hundreds of thousands of other people have their own mind and want bitcoin mainnet growth
but are being told "be patient" for the last 7 years

i am not the only one that wants onchain scaling(there are hundreds of topics with thousands of people). but then we see the same dozen invade those topics to advertise doomads favoured subnet as the solution and how doomad keeps trying to say onchain scaling is not needed, wont happen cant happen until his subnetwork is popular
but doomad only sees me, because im one of the few to call him out on his BS(other independent minds just ignore/avoid him) so he and his chums have gone narrow vision on those that are fighting off his snake oil salesman speaches

whilst thousands of other just dont want to be involved in his silly crap fights

what doomad chums need to realise
in the many many years that doomad says "be patient" wait for his favoured subnetwork to populate before getting anything else...
other subnetworks not part of doomads favoured brand. are getting more recognition and populated than doomads favoured subnetwork

there are some[non doomad favoured subnetworks] that have locked up more bitcoin and using that as value representation on those subnetworks. and gained more liquidity and utility in under 18 months. compared to the hopes that the doomad cult have achieve in 6 years of waiting for doomads favoured brand of subnetwork has

doomads not getting the momentum of recruits he wants to jump over to his schemes. and some of his previous recruits are seeing the holes in his narrative and slowly pulling away

so doomad is obsessed with thinking his fight is about recruiting and his opposers need to show their own ass-kisser recruitment plan.. he think is its a competition

he doesnt realise that its not... becasue he has lost

my mantra is just to wake up idiots to his game.

[nutildah]

it's just that you have been crying wolf for so long without anyone to back you up on them, so it's a bit hard to take your side and stand by you all the time, and when you get no support from others, you'd think everyone is in a special circle, I haven't seen anyone to back you up on your conspiracy theories, even though they are interesting to know about, but difficult to believe.

i do love laughing at those silly mindsets
the mindsets that idiots think im looking for support, idiots think im looking for back up

I interpreted what he's saying as "no one backs you up because everyone understands how you are wrong." Has nothing to do with whether or not you are looking for support.

i do love laughing at those silly mindsets

Probably the worst quality of your posts is the utter lack of humility. You are always talking down to everyone, belittling them, dismissing them, telling them they are wrong and "need to do research," when quite often it is you who is wrong, and provably so. Its extremely insulting, and that combined with a pathological inability to ever admit you were wrong causes a lot of people to conclude you are a troll.

You'll likely find a reason to dismiss all this rather than use it to understand why people think of you the way they do, but you can't say nobody ever tried to explain it to you.

[digaran]

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When you are addressing your audience idiots 9 times on a single post it would be a difficult task to get your message heard. But since you consider anyone not following your narrative as idiots, you should also consider the obvious that idiots are called idiots for a reason. I like it though to see you resort to insults when the comments are not in your favour, what should we call this? A freaking irony? One would definitely call it just that if one reads your comment.

Good for those hundreds of thousands imaginary independent open minded community members who support your narratives with their own special language which only you understand, because idiots can't understand remember?  With this mindset of yours, it'd be highly unlikely to hold a ground where some people would have liked to remain in as neutral, thus they'd decide to turn against you.  Not implying myself here.

[franky1]

again your stuck in the mindset of "follow a narrative" game where you think if i am trying to get a bunch of idiots to stop following one false narrative. you feel it must be becasue i am trying to recruit them into my narrative(facepalm)

please try to escape the mindset that its about choosing sides.. where you thin there is a competition of 2 sides..

the dozen i call idiots are idiots becasue they dont want or avoid doing research and instead follow a script nearly word for word of a stupid narrative that cannot be backed up by blockdata/code or historic events

everyone else can and does do some research or atleast shows willingness to learn, for themelves.. i dont need asskissers nor want people to quote me as their source. i want people to actually look at real sources like the blockchain data, statistics and actual information they can learn from independantly. and not be spoonfed


its never been about some silly recruitment for people to follow my narrative. its about willingness to learn and not just viral spam a stupid false narrative inspired by the same dozen idiots confirmation biasing each other in s echo chamber of cabin fever

i am not calling loads of people idiots .. just the main dozen
i am not even trying to get people to quote me word for word so its not even about people needing to follow me
i dont want idiots script following me. i want people to learn for themselves, to do their own research and think for themselves and not sound like mindless sheep just spamming some narrative they found in some social club

if you think i want or need followers. then you are still thinking too small