Betcoin.ag scam 5 LTC

[younger41]

What happened: Betcoin.ag closed my account when i try my first withdraw, before it i had only deposits

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=202115

Amount Scammed: 5 LTC

Payment Method: Litecoin

Proof of Payment: I can not find proof of payement becouse i used my personal Binance account where im making transactions everyday, and not know which is to betcoin, if representatives show my deposit address for sure i can find it in transactions

PM/Chat Logs: https://ibb.co/WDScjjP    https://ibb.co/cTXJCb0      https://ibb.co/WKKtbL4

They say I had multiple accounts, but this is my only single account that I have on a betcoin, registered to my email address that I have been using for 10 years, and I made a deposit from my personal binance account.
They refuse any form of verification of my account, I invite them to call me to Skype or whatever they want me to prove to them that I did not have any other account on their bookmaker. Of course they no longer respond to my messages.
And of course they did not give a single proof of evidence that I had cheated and had multiple accounts.
Please the admins of this forum to help the members someday!

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[Mahdirakib]

I remember you have asked about it in their ANN thread one month ago. I'm quoting the reply of Betcoin.ag here

This is a known player, who has previously been banned from Betcoin on more than 1 occasion. We have confirmed that he continues to use banned scanner technology to find and place bets. We paid him his winnings in full on his first account, with the agreement that if he creates any additional accounts, they will be closed and funds seized. He has since created at least 2 additional Betcoin accounts. As stated to him, since the winnings he received in payouts from the first account exceed the amount deposited on the current account, this matter is considered closed. As always, any player who is able to follow the rules, will be paid extremely fast, as evidenced by our tens of thousands of happy players. Thank you

I have suggested you to create a scam accusation with proper proof at the time. You took one month to do it, but still you haven't provided any valid proof. However, it's clear that Betcoin.ag hasn't accepted your withdrawal request. They only said that you have multiple accounts and used one kind of technology to place bets. I think this case will be closed if they can provide the proof of your abuse with multiple accounts. I have sent a message to the user ‘Betcoin.AG’. Hopefully he will reply here soon.

[younger41]

I remember you have asked about it in their ANN thread one month ago. I'm quoting the reply of Betcoin.ag here

This is a known player, who has previously been banned from Betcoin on more than 1 occasion. We have confirmed that he continues to use banned scanner technology to find and place bets. We paid him his winnings in full on his first account, with the agreement that if he creates any additional accounts, they will be closed and funds seized. He has since created at least 2 additional Betcoin accounts. As stated to him, since the winnings he received in payouts from the first account exceed the amount deposited on the current account, this matter is considered closed. As always, any player who is able to follow the rules, will be paid extremely fast, as evidenced by our tens of thousands of happy players. Thank you

I have suggested you to create a scam accusation with proper proof at the time. You took one month to do it, but still you haven't provided any valid proof. However, it's clear that Betcoin.ag hasn't accepted your withdrawal request. They only said that you have multiple accounts and used one kind of technology to place bets. I think this case will be closed if they can provide the proof of your abuse with multiple accounts. I have sent a message to the user ‘Betcoin.AG’. Hopefully he will reply here soon.

Thank you for sending message, yes I waited a month because I didn't care too much for 5 LTC, but as my problems with fraudsters started again I decided to start writing.

I can't log in to my account so I can show you more evidence, I already said about the deposit, it was about a month ago and I had more than 1 deposit for sure, if betcoin.ag forum mebers want (and I know for sure they can) to show what my deposit address was I can immediately take a picture and send you all the details of my deposit because I did it through Binance (there is a whole history of my transactions which are many, and I can not say for sure which was for betcoin)

https://ibb.co/60XJMm8

Tell me what proof you want from me, I am ready to do whatever you ask to prove it. I write to betcoin guys to make any type of verification but they ignored me.

I had same problem with playbetr, and they give me deposit at end and that's why I didn't even complain because they returned all the money from my account.

[Slow death]

and your problem will only get worse to be solved because they have the famous and annoying:

" This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic. (47 posts by 2+ users deleted.) "

but I'll have to ask you this, have you already posted these proofs in their thread?

I wonder why they won't agree to make you KYC and solve this whole problem?

[younger41]

and your problem will only get worse to be solved because they have the famous and annoying:

" This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic. (47 posts by 2+ users deleted.) "

but I'll have to ask you this, have you already posted these proofs in their thread?

I wonder why they won't agree to make you KYC and solve this whole problem?

yes i already wrote on their thread and found more photos, and photo of my last deposit

i did not get any answer from they, they just said that I am already a known player who had several accounts with them, which is not true at all !!!

my withdraw: https://ibb.co/1QqZyW6

my last deposit: https://imgbb.com/bHPFJ7K

i really not know why they are ignoring any type of verification, I am ready and I want to do whatever they want, and I do not want my deposit back, because my total deposit is higher than the balance on the account at the time of closing the account. it was just under 5ltc, 4.9xxx they know better

[Betcoin.AG]

and your problem will only get worse to be solved because they have the famous and annoying:

" This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic. (47 posts by 2+ users deleted.) "

Our thread is self moderated, however as you can see we have deleted posts from 2 users in 6 years, both of which were for spam. This player commented on our ANN thread and we left the complaint up and promptly replied at that time.

This is a known player, who has previously been banned from Betcoin on more than 1 occasion. We have confirmed that he continues to use banned scanner technology to find and place bets. We paid him his winnings in full on his first account, with the agreement that if he creates any additional accounts, they will be closed and funds seized. He has since created at least 2 additional Betcoin accounts. As stated to him, since the winnings he received in payouts from the first account exceed the amount deposited on the current account, this matter is considered closed. As always, any player who is able to follow the rules, will be paid extremely fast, as evidenced by our tens of thousands of happy players. Thank you

As always, any player who is able to follow the rules, which exist at every sportsbook, will have no problems and we have tens of thousands of people cashing out on a regular basis, many for much larger amounts than this player attempted. Thanks and best of luck to all!

[younger41]

and your problem will only get worse to be solved because they have the famous and annoying:

" This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic. (47 posts by 2+ users deleted.) "

Our thread is self moderated, however as you can see we have deleted posts from 2 users in 6 years, both of which were for spam. This player commented on our ANN thread and we left the complaint up and promptly replied at that time.

This is a known player, who has previously been banned from Betcoin on more than 1 occasion. We have confirmed that he continues to use banned scanner technology to find and place bets. We paid him his winnings in full on his first account, with the agreement that if he creates any additional accounts, they will be closed and funds seized. He has since created at least 2 additional Betcoin accounts. As stated to him, since the winnings he received in payouts from the first account exceed the amount deposited on the current account, this matter is considered closed. As always, any player who is able to follow the rules, will be paid extremely fast, as evidenced by our tens of thousands of happy players. Thank you

As always, any player who is able to follow the rules, which exist at every sportsbook, will have no problems and we have tens of thousands of people cashing out on a regular basis, many for much larger amounts than this player attempted. Thanks and best of luck to all!

What rules did I break? Show exactly what I did wrong and give proof! I played fair !!!

[Betcoin.AG]

Show exactly what I did wrong

"So that I can cheat better next time."


Again, this is a known player, who has been previously banned at least twice. We would never withhold funds without certainty. A deposit refund is not due in this case, as he has received more than his deposit back on his other accounts. This is the recommended action by SBR and other leading 3rd party mediators. If the player would like to bring his case up to a 3rd party mediator, we would be happy to provide the clear, ample evidence to them and abide by their ruling. Additionally, last time we closed his account, we warned him that if he continued making accounts, the deposit would be seized, as that is our only deterrent in cases of malicious abuse, such as this. We have him on record agreeing to this resolution on a previous account.

If you have any questions about this player's character, please review his other open accusation.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5380569.0

We chat 2 weeks about bookmakers and he offered me very good sites, to bet together.
After a while i got a little trust in him and we wanted to start betting together, he asked me to send a deposit and i agreed.

Yes i send him money to bet, like deposit from me, to be safe....

Why would he need to send someone money to place bets for him? Why is he not able to place bets for himself? Obviously, there is more to this scheme than he is letting on, and while it is certainly unacceptable for the other party to have run off with the money, what they were attempting is against the rules of nearly all sportsbooks.

We strongly encourage any player with a dispute to contact a reputable third party mediator, who will listen to both sides and make a ruling based on the evidence given. As far as this forum goes, we hope our reputation speaks for itself. We would certainly never do anything to break the trust of our many users, and we pay out much larger amounts than this all day long to legitimate users. Thank you.

[Slow death]

and your problem will only get worse to be solved because they have the famous and annoying:

" This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic. (47 posts by 2+ users deleted.) "

but I'll have to ask you this, have you already posted these proofs in their thread?

I wonder why they won't agree to make you KYC and solve this whole problem?

yes i already wrote on their thread and found more photos, and photo of my last deposit

i did not get any answer from they, they just said that I am already a known player who had several accounts with them, which is not true at all !!!

my withdraw: https://ibb.co/1QqZyW6

my last deposit: https://imgbb.com/bHPFJ7K

i really not know why they are ignoring any type of verification, I am ready and I want to do whatever they want, and I do not want my deposit back, because my total deposit is higher than the balance on the account at the time of closing the account. it was just under 5ltc, 4.9xxx they know better

did you want to withdraw 148 ltc?

How much have you earned since you created an account?

Show exactly what I did wrong

"So that I can cheat better next time."


Again, this is a known player, who has been previously banned at least twice. We would never withhold funds without certainty. A deposit refund is not due in this case, as he has received more than his deposit back on his other accounts. This is the recommended action by SBR and other leading 3rd party mediators. If the player would like to bring his case up to a 3rd party mediator, we would be happy to provide the clear, ample evidence to them and abide by their ruling. Additionally, last time we closed his account, we warned him that if he continued making accounts, the deposit would be seized, as that is our only deterrent in cases of malicious abuse, such as this. We have him on record agreeing to this resolution on a previous account.

If you have any questions about this player's character, please review his other open accusation.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5380569.0

We chat 2 weeks about bookmakers and he offered me very good sites, to bet together.
After a while i got a little trust in him and we wanted to start betting together, he asked me to send a deposit and i agreed.

Yes i send him money to bet, like deposit from me, to be safe....

Why would he need to send someone money to place bets for him? Why is he not able to place bets for himself? Obviously, there is more to this scheme than he is letting on, and while it is certainly unacceptable for the other party to have run off with the money, what they were attempting is against the rules of nearly all sportsbooks.

We strongly encourage any player with a dispute to contact a reputable third party mediator, who will listen to both sides and make a ruling based on the evidence given. As far as this forum goes, we hope our reputation speaks for itself. We would certainly never do anything to break the trust of our many users, and we pay out much larger amounts than this all day long to legitimate users. Thank you.

you are right there is something wrong with OP

[younger41]

Show exactly what I did wrong

"So that I can cheat better next time."


Again, this is a known player, who has been previously banned at least twice. We would never withhold funds without certainty. A deposit refund is not due in this case, as he has received more than his deposit back on his other accounts. This is the recommended action by SBR and other leading 3rd party mediators. If the player would like to bring his case up to a 3rd party mediator, we would be happy to provide the clear, ample evidence to them and abide by their ruling. Additionally, last time we closed his account, we warned him that if he continued making accounts, the deposit would be seized, as that is our only deterrent in cases of malicious abuse, such as this. We have him on record agreeing to this resolution on a previous account.

If you have any questions about this player's character, please review his other open accusation.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5380569.0

We chat 2 weeks about bookmakers and he offered me very good sites, to bet together.
After a while i got a little trust in him and we wanted to start betting together, he asked me to send a deposit and i agreed.

Yes i send him money to bet, like deposit from me, to be safe....

Why would he need to send someone money to place bets for him? Why is he not able to place bets for himself? Obviously, there is more to this scheme than he is letting on, and while it is certainly unacceptable for the other party to have run off with the money, what they were attempting is against the rules of nearly all sportsbooks.

We strongly encourage any player with a dispute to contact a reputable third party mediator, who will listen to both sides and make a ruling based on the evidence given. As far as this forum goes, we hope our reputation speaks for itself. We would certainly never do anything to break the trust of our many users, and we pay out much larger amounts than this all day long to legitimate users. Thank you.

Hahahahha why to send money to someone to bet for me? Why? Maybe becouse im not making multiple account and not have where to bet anymore? Maybe im tired of scamers like betcoin.ag ?
Which know player am I? I have problems only with fraudulent bookmakers like you, 1xbit, 4444sports and the like! Why have I never complained about fortunejack or stake? Because they are 10 steps above you!
It is no longer a question of money, but of pride!

I will not give up until you prove me cheating!


@Slow death

Yes something is wrong with me, I trust this forum and members too much.

And i try to withdraw 148 cltc, its 1.48ltc

Do you really trust Platinum III member of your casino will try to cheat with multiple accounts? I even use same username for all bookmakers (you see in upper right corner few letters, its enought to betcoin guys know)

https://ibb.co/6rJQnJZ



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[martingalecalculator.com]

stay away from fortunejack as well
use bc.game  they starting sportbook this week no kyc or anything
use promo code VIPPLUs you will get instant Rakeback if you joined

[Slow death]

@Slow death

Yes something is wrong with me, I trust this forum and members too much.

And i try to withdraw 148 cltc, its 1.48ltc

Do you really trust Platinum III member of your casino will try to cheat with multiple accounts? I even use same username for all bookmakers (you see in upper right corner few letters, its enought to betcoin guys know)

https://ibb.co/6rJQnJZ

Do you need to be honest here, why did you need to give someone else money to make a bet for you? this may be in line with what @Betcoin.AG theory is saying unless you can prove otherwise, your track record of using someone else to place bets for you can make you suspicious and there is no way to accuse @Betcoin.AG of being wrong. sorry but the situation is in favor of @Betcoin.AG in this case

[Poker Player]

Do you need to be honest here, why did you need to give someone else money to make a bet for you? this may be in line with what @Betcoin.AG theory is saying unless you can prove otherwise, your track record of using someone else to place bets for you can make you suspicious and there is no way to accuse @Betcoin.AG of being wrong. sorry but the situation is in favor of @Betcoin.AG in this case

I also commented in the other thread and I think in this case the OP is not right. It sounds a bit tough to say it, but it seems to me that the OP is finding the problems he has been looking for. Giving your money to someone else to bet is on the one hand very naive, and quite likely to end up scammed, and on the other hand suspicious as you say.

[Beparanf]

stay away from fortunejack as well
use bc.game  they starting sportbook this week no kyc or anything
use promo code VIPPLUs you will get instant Rakeback if you joined

Get lost and move out your shill post here. Just create your Ann thread and stop spamming others your nonsense FUD.


@OP, As per Betcoin report, You already withdraw the amount on your other account that sufficient to your initial deposit and since you already self admitted reason is enough to conclude that you are doing something wrong against casino terms. Just move on.

[younger41]

@Betparaf

I never withdraw anything from betcoin.ag this was my first withdraw ever.

@Poker Player

Suspicious? Do you suspicious when someone is honest and guarantees for themselves by giving their money? I have already met few peoples on this forum who are honest and I sent them money in advance, if you are interested in their experience I could send you their name on the forum so contact them and make you sure.
Does betcoin have any proof that i broke the rules? Let them give only one proof and i will give up immediately!

@Slow Death

Ss i said in the reply above i met someone from the forum to whom i also sent money forward, and everything was great, we made 2.5k profit in 7 days! And don't worry we certainly haven't played at stupid betcoin.ag
Why is betchoin in favor? Have they proved something here? You are asking me for some proof and my account is closed and I can't enter it, I don't know what you expected, to take a picture of each of my tickets? Are you crazy? Say whatever you want from the evidence i will give you.
Have you ever heard of limiting your account's maxbet to $ 5? You see, all my accounts are like that, and I don't want to open duplicate accounts and cheat, I have nowhere else to play, so I tried to find people who have good bookmakers and can bet for me.

Show exactly what I did wrong

"So that I can cheat better next time."


Again, this is a known player, who has been previously banned at least twice. We would never withhold funds without certainty. A deposit refund is not due in this case, as he has received more than his deposit back on his other accounts. This is the recommended action by SBR and other leading 3rd party mediators. If the player would like to bring his case up to a 3rd party mediator, we would be happy to provide the clear, ample evidence to them and abide by their ruling. Additionally, last time we closed his account, we warned him that if he continued making accounts, the deposit would be seized, as that is our only deterrent in cases of malicious abuse, such as this. We have him on record agreeing to this resolution on a previous account.

If you have any questions about this player's character, please review his other open accusation.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5380569.0

We chat 2 weeks about bookmakers and he offered me very good sites, to bet together.
After a while i got a little trust in him and we wanted to start betting together, he asked me to send a deposit and i agreed.

Yes i send him money to bet, like deposit from me, to be safe....

Why would he need to send someone money to place bets for him? Why is he not able to place bets for himself? Obviously, there is more to this scheme than he is letting on, and while it is certainly unacceptable for the other party to have run off with the money, what they were attempting is against the rules of nearly all sportsbooks.

We strongly encourage any player with a dispute to contact a reputable third party mediator, who will listen to both sides and make a ruling based on the evidence given. As far as this forum goes, we hope our reputation speaks for itself. We would certainly never do anything to break the trust of our many users, and we pay out much larger amounts than this all day long to legitimate users. Thank you.

I am not able to place bets from my accounts because thieves like you have closed my account or lowered maxbet to $ 5 at other bookmakers, shame on you! As soon as someone makes money on your thieving bookmaker you immediately limit accounts like all other bookmakers. Are you talking about honesty???
Give one proof only that I cheated and I will send you 5 more ltcs right away
Let's all get together here on the topic to do one video interview, to prove it all to you?




And of course this topic will end like this. Without an answer and without any proof of my cheating

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[cashfairy]

what is scanner technology to find and place bets ? (Betcoin.AG mentioned it above)

[younger41]

And of course this topic will end without any answer or help, thank you very much and shame on you either!

[bitbollo]

what is scanner technology to find and place bets ? (Betcoin.AG mentioned it above)

I am also really curious to know what is this technology or at least to understand where is the issue... maybe ( I try to guess) is something related betting arbitrage? I appreciate explanation also in private...

And of course this topic will end without any answer or help, thank you very much and shame on you either!

You have received help and assistance by community. Plus the website rappresentative explained clearly why they are not comfortable to share in public this proof.
If you feel not happy for what happened and you want a "resolution" and... at this point of discussion... why not contact a 3rd party mediator to explain this issue? I think is the only solution. if you refuse to do that, it's useless blaming other users.

edit: Thanks for explanation an user has provide in private about this technology.
As reported before (IMHO) if OP feel to be scammed, there is just one solution suitable at this point.
 Ask a 3rd party mediator some help/explain the issue...