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but I haven't found a definite official account about the government's tweet that is ready to accept bitcoin assistance for their citizens affected by the tsunami, but if the Tongan government accepts bitcoin assistance, you can say this is a good step, to speed up disaster recovery there, by accepting bitcoin automatically the help will be collected quickly..
an ex-member of parliament...(translate: resigned congressman) not the tonga prime minister(translate president) the ex-member of parliament did announce a donation address. the ex-member of parliament did is currently in new zealand not toga the twitter account is verified as belonging to the true the ex-member of parliament. but that is all that has been evaluated. the official tonga government has not announced their own tonga government address. and tonga right now wont have any internet for a couple weeks, so they cant. .. i personally would like to see the ex-member of parliament, stop just thanking people for donations. stop making tweets about AI and visiting NFT projects after the disaster, and instead make tweets showing him organising some physical actions to help tonga right now. .. to note. the first relief package tonga is getting is in the form of: a supply plane(should arrive on wednesday) 2 navel ships (should arrive on thursday) all of which are are paid from NZ government relief package in $$.. not paid using ex-tonga mp's donation funds..
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In times of disaster, donations in whatever form should be welcome. It is good to hear that Bitcoin has become a tool for this humanitarian initiative. Whether or not it is only a personal initiative of the former member of the parliament should not be made as a big issue. In times of dire need, everybody, especially those who have the influence, should find ways to gather support. And this Twitter account has a blue badge which means that the account indeed belongs to Lord Fusitu'a.
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January 19, 2022, 12:03:43 PM |
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This statement must be corrected. This donation isn't made by the government of Tonga, but it is created by Lord Fusitu'a. So, Tonga isn't accepting Bitcoin for Donation, but Lord Fusitu'a (@LordFusitua) accepts Bitcoin donations to deliver for tsunami disasters in Tonga.
The only man on the whole island who has anything to do with Bitcoin, including all the rumors that Tonga will recognize Bitcoin as a legal tender. I don't see anything wrong with making donations to BTC, but everyone should know that this man does not represent the official government.
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January 19, 2022, 12:09:20 PM |
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We can only hope that the money can be distributed to the right person who suffers from a tsunami because we do not know the person who accepts the donation. We are hard to verify that the person will be responsible for the money. In this situation, it is easy for people who have the intention to scam others by collecting donations from other people in the name of charity. So we need to be careful with that. We can not say that he is legit or a scam because we do not know for sure and we can only hope that is right.
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January 19, 2022, 12:40:11 PM |
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i personally would like to see the ex-member of parliament, stop just thanking people for donations. stop making tweets about AI and visiting NFT projects after the disaster, and instead make tweets showing him organising some physical actions to help tonga right now.
.. to note. the first relief package tonga is getting is in the form of: a supply plane(should arrive on wednesday) 2 navel ships (should arrive on thursday) all of which are are paid from NZ government relief package in $$.. not paid using ex-tonga mp's donation funds..
True, and this goes for every single politician, ex or present. How does a national disaster requiring urgent assistance become a platform of fame for these retired people I never understand. The only crypto giving thing that I know ever made sense and supported was Giving Block.
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January 19, 2022, 03:11:54 PM |
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As already said, it's a bit odd that haven't had internet for a few weeks, making it impossible to use Bitcoin and the donations. I also read that the address and it's holder isn't related to Tonga's government. Even if it is still exchanged in some other way and used for the cause I would research more before donating. Either way it's nice seeing acceptance for Bitcoin, but I mostly see it once something bad like this situation happens since donations are good in any shape.
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January 19, 2022, 09:43:23 PM |
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I've checked the official Twitter account of Fusitu'a and he retweets those people that have donated them. He also posted about a scammer posing as him. The address has already received around 0.026 BTC or an estimated $11k. I understand that it could potentially be hacked by someone just like what happened with those verified handles that have asked for investment and return and used those Twitter accounts of Trump and the other celebs.
so meaning the post is legit and the wallet is literally from the government? This is a good way of luring donator because Tonga is really in a verge of hardness now and they need all ways on how they can earn help from all part of the world and this is what the trend now, know your receiver and you will be safe and hoping they will gather enough help from the worldwide community and msot specially bitcoin users. It could be but also be mindful that the account could've been hacked too. As said, they have cut their internet lines and likely they don't have internet connection due to the tsunami and it might take a week or two for the restoration. But it could also be true and it's the real guy but I'm hoping that it's the actual guy and those funds we're going to be used for the good of those affected people there.
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January 19, 2022, 10:12:09 PM |
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This statement must be corrected. This donation isn't made by the government of Tonga, but it is created by Lord Fusitu'a. So, Tonga isn't accepting Bitcoin for Donation, but Lord Fusitu'a (@LordFusitua) accepts Bitcoin donations to deliver for tsunami disasters in Tonga.
The only man on the whole island who has anything to do with Bitcoin, including all the rumors that Tonga will recognize Bitcoin as a legal tender. I don't see anything wrong with making donations to BTC, but everyone should know that this man does not represent the official government. Of course, there is nothing wrong with it, I just make a suggestion to revise the title to avoid misunderstanding among people. I am worried people think it is an official donation request in BTC made by the Tonga government. I mean Lord Fusitu'a isn't a representative of the Tonga government, he is only a volunteer. Sure, nothing wrong with Lord Fusitu'a, he did a good thing by holding this donation. My purpose is to make people know who creates the donation request. I think you understand what I mean. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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January 21, 2022, 07:08:54 AM |
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Scammers and hackers are always looking for opportunities like this to take advantage of. I believe there should be more media coverage about this by the government responsible to make it more authentic that the Twitter message is genuine and what the right bitcoin address is else, it could turn out to be another celebrity/politician twitter hack to rip people off.
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January 21, 2022, 11:20:15 AM |
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It's good that Bitcoin is accepted, but I would be suspicious. First, it's just one Tonga official, so who's to say he's not accepting donations for his new mansion rather than actually for combatting the disaster? Second, Twitter accounts are often hacked, so where's proof that this one wasn't, and it's not scammers calling for donations? Such things should be done officially, with a designated wallet that some people will be accountable for when they spend the money. Otherwise, it looks just like a private initiative of a politician. They received $20k, which is quite significant. I really hope this money will be spent on helping people who suffered the most from the eruption.
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January 23, 2022, 12:56:19 AM |
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This is a great lesson for many countries that are not yet taking into account the development of BTC and the ease of moving money from one place to another, if this is not taken advantage of by countries to make BTC a legal tender like "El Salvador" does it, I think it will be more difficult to introduce it politically and with regulations, as many are doing, I think Tonga is a prime candidate to become a country that accepts BTC in its economic ranks, I think that the third world countries would be the ideal lifeline, the best thing about this news is that I know that the demand for BTC will increase.
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I won't say that's legit or not, but I can tell that the capture comes from this tweet: https://twitter.com/onair_blair/status/1482681573333999617Maybe somebody can check whether it's OK or hacked/impersonated. (Also, wasn't twitter blocking bitcoin addresses in tweets? When did that change?) Doesn't that tweet say that this aid also accepts BTC via LN? I rarely come across scammers using LN, what I understand it can be identified at which node the transaction connects first. cmiiw. tonga's internet line is disconnected, they have no internet for 2 weeks
Looks like they'll get it. Elonmusk offers internet access solutions with starlink terminals. I don't know if it will be realized as soon as possible. ~source
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January 23, 2022, 03:23:18 AM |
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This is a great lesson for many countries that are not yet taking into account the development of BTC and the ease of moving money from one place to another, if this is not taken advantage of by countries to make BTC a legal tender like "El Salvador" does it, I think it will be more difficult to introduce it politically and with regulations, as many are doing, I think Tonga is a prime candidate to become a country that accepts BTC in its economic ranks, I think that the third world countries would be the ideal lifeline, the best thing about this news is that I know that the demand for BTC will increase.
Small countries always tend to grow further, but in my view it needs to develop its infrastructure through all possible sources. Very few country are strong in its economic growth, whereas the majority small countries are in its path to push themselves high. By the time making bitcoin a legal tender is good, but something like the ongoing crash will truly make a big impact over the country's situation. So, it should always have a backup plan as alternate to the bitcoin acceptance.
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This is a great lesson for many countries that are not yet taking into account the development of BTC and the ease of moving money from one place to another, if this is not taken advantage of by countries to make BTC a legal tender like "El Salvador" does it, I think it will be more difficult to introduce it politically and with regulations, as many are doing, I think Tonga is a prime candidate to become a country that accepts BTC in its economic ranks, I think that the third world countries would be the ideal lifeline, the best thing about this news is that I know that the demand for BTC will increase.
This kind of news should be an eye-opener to other countries that in this type of calamities or natural phenomenon when there is no any other way to send help or donations easily bitcoin and cryptocurrency are just a one step away for them so that people who has this assets that would like to send help could easily send their help. I know cryptocurrency especially bitcoin are still struggling to be part of the economy but through this kind of helping initiatives crypto will be discover on how effectively this asset can be a great help to everyone.
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any updates of what is the donation from crypto community running now? i mean is there any chance that we could check the standing balance of the donations? anyway this is what the best thing about crypto , we can donate in any part of the world being anonymous . This is a great lesson for many countries that are not yet taking into account the development of BTC and the ease of moving money from one place to another, if this is not taken advantage of by countries to make BTC a legal tender like "El Salvador" does it, I think it will be more difficult to introduce it politically and with regulations, as many are doing, I think Tonga is a prime candidate to become a country that accepts BTC in its economic ranks, I think that the third world countries would be the ideal lifeline, the best thing about this news is that I know that the demand for BTC will increase.
I believe that Pandemic already thought of dealing with crypto as they are now seeing the advantage and the help to their economy .
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tonga's internet line is disconnected, they have no internet for 2 weeks
Looks like they'll get it. Elonmusk offers internet access solutions with starlink terminals. I don't know if it will be realized as soon as possible. ~sourcehe says its a hard thing to do right now as he doesnt have enough laser based satellites. so wants an official plea so that he can concentrate on diverting allocated satellites to be deployed for tonga, thus delaying other purposes. so he wants to ensure that they need it rather than want it. as its not going to be an overnight fix. (the undersea cable could be fixed by the time elon gets the kit to them). so he wants to be sure its a immediate but also long term need. rather than a temporary "want"/need.
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any updates of what is the donation from crypto community running now? i mean is there any chance that we could check the standing balance of the donations? you quoted the link to check its 0.5btc from 374 donations. (~$18k total) so far Lord F' has not spent a penny of it. mean while neighbouring governments have put aside $3m in fiat to get aid to tonga, and the NZ gov ships and planes have already got there days ago. i can understand some people loving the hype of 'bitcoin' being mentioned along side the viral messages of a disaster. but the actual donations this week are not actually being spent on the disaster. so far only fiat is actually helping with the disaster
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This is the great news to accept bitcoin. It's an official donation request in BTC made by the Tonga government. Bitcoin is most valuable coin in crypto market and people loving in bitcoin hype.A little countries are Strong in economic.
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