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May 01, 2023, 10:19:08 PM
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ChipMixer.be is a scam to avoid

- The domain name has been created just yesterday, Apr 30 2023 (while we all know about the real Chipmixer site)
- They claim their bitcointalk account is @Chipmixer (while we all know it's not true)
- The scammer is the same behind other scams such as anonymix-btc.com, smartbitmix-btc.com, bitcoinlaundry.net, blennder.net

Onion address V3:
chipmixjojzkyqj32ih5njuayhzyzb7uoecq7rexnse24lb2hrdtyzid.onion
Easy way to remember: Chip Mix Or Fly they say.

I see Chip Mix Joj Zky
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To the dudes above: thanks I will add the names to the list

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May 22, 2023, 01:14:31 AM
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why do you want to use a mixer service when you can coinjoin with wasabi wallet?
Why do you trust someone else to hold your coins and expect him to send you back the money? You ought to be scammed.
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May 22, 2023, 07:28:50 PM
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why do you want to use a mixer service when you can coinjoin with wasabi wallet?
Why do you trust someone else to hold your coins and expect him to send you back the money? You ought to be scammed.

Every person and every Bitcoin user has their own preferences and habits.

Many mixer sites are honest, and many people use such services without ever being scammed.

You could ask the same question with any P2P service for example, it makes no sense. A lot of it is based on trust, reputation, and the longevity of some websites speaks for themselves. Of course, there is always a risk of exit scam, but each user manages his own personal risk policy

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May 22, 2023, 10:40:24 PM
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why do you want to use a mixer service when you can coinjoin with wasabi wallet?
Why would anyone want to use a service that blacklists UTXO's

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Most of the scam mixers listed in the OP are phishing or clone websites. The number of mixers that might have exit scammed or even got siezed is very minimal.

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May 22, 2023, 10:59:17 PM
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I can argue with two or three things.

- The minimum amount to mix with Wasabi is 0.01 BTC. Not everyone needs to mix such amount.
The mixers have a lot lower amount requirement, from 0.001 to 0.003 BTC

- Wasabi (a company behind it), with the zkSNACKs coordinator (by default), can block any Unspent Transaction Output, if they think your bitcoins are related to an illegal activity
https://i.imgur.com/jcQBcJj.jpg

I have never see a centralized mixer with such practice, and I believe if it happens, the mixer will lose its whole reputation, and the whole business perhaps

- Some people may prefer to use a web-based service compared to a software (for whatever reason)



I see /][banned mixer] is back amoung us

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May 23, 2023, 04:32:05 AM
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What about BetterCallRaul.it?

I think it should be on the watch and will probably end up on the list of scams. They have stopped operations in a strange way, to say the least.

Could be a rug pull/exit scam.
I think you're correct, it looks like photoshopped, strange to see Chipmixer brought in this case.



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May 23, 2023, 08:08:04 AM
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What about BetterCallRaul.it?

I think it should be on the watch and will probably end up on the list of scams. They have stopped operations in a strange way, to say the least.

Yes I went to their site to see the content of the screenshot shared by myself, and I find that it doesn't look official, it looks fake.

What do you think about it? Do we know if it's a rug pull / scam or if they've really been caught?

I can't really tell why but the "has been seized" page looks totally fake to me, maybe because of the logos on the top right and left, anyway, I have a bad feeling about this one...

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May 23, 2023, 02:01:39 PM
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Yes I went to their site to see the content of the screenshot shared by myself, and I find that it doesn't look official, it looks fake.

What do you think about it? Do we know if it's a rug pull / scam or if they've really been caught?

I can't really tell why but the "has been seized" page looks totally fake to me, maybe because of the logos on the top right and left, anyway, I have a bad feeling about this one...

If you look at people's comments in the campaign thread, all indications are that it is an exit scam. So it's going to have to be added to the list in this thread.

I am curious to know how much they may have scammed, as it seems they had been operating normally until now. Is it worth scamming people when you can continue to do business honestly and make money on an ongoing basis? We don't know the specific circumstances of the case.

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I am curious to know how much they may have scammed, as it seems they had been operating normally until now. Is it worth scamming people when you can continue to do business honestly and make money on an ongoing basis? We don't know the specific circumstances of the case.

The same question running in my mind. It could be that they recieved one big deposit maybe running to hundreds of btc, who knows?
I have known some situations where projects kick off honestly and with a well defined purpose but in the process of the business some unforseen circumstances will force them out of business thereby making them to turn scam which was not their initial intention.
But for BetterCallRaul, they were given warm welcome and their no KYC system almost attracted me few days ago. So, I don't really understand why they should behave this way.

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What about BetterCallRaul.it?

I think it should be on the watch and will probably end up on the list of scams. They have stopped operations in a strange way, to say the least.
Yeah, I also think it was an exit scam given the evidence presented by some members already, but this list is exclusive for Bitcoin mixers/tumblers that are scam or have closed.
If I am not mistaken, BetterCallRaul.it was more of an instant crypto exchange with the promise of making the transactions "untraceable" and not ever asking for KYC verification from its users.

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If you look at people's comments in the campaign thread, all indications are that it is an exit scam. So it's going to have to be added to the list in this thread.

I am curious to know how much they may have scammed, as it seems they had been operating normally until now. Is it worth scamming people when you can continue to do business honestly and make money on an ongoing basis? We don't know the specific circumstances of the case.

Yeah I just went to see this and indeed, it smells strongly of scam... It's a safe bet that we'll never get a feedback from this team unfortunately!  Roll Eyes

Indeed it would be interesting to have some BTC addresses linked to their service to try to see if a big deposit was made (as KingsDen assumed for example tens of BTC or even less) to "motivate" this potential exit scam

It's a pity that it ends like this, it was a nice service, very privacy-focused..
Actions like this damage the whole sector and ruin the confidence of many users. Like you guys, I find it strange not to operate in the normal way and make money like this, I can't understand what they could have gained from it (in case of a big deposit wasn't made).

I don't know if anyone has any feedback on the last transactions made before the site was closed, were they assumed and honest?

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I didn't know bettercallraul.it

I won't add it to the list since it's a total different business to me, sorry.
You were not mixing your bitcoins but you were swaping them for an altcoin. That's not the purpose of a Bitcoin tumbler and this site has never advertized itself as such (if I'm correct).
All the text on their website about the anonimzation is just a bullshit that they have set up to attract potential customer.

And if you ask me, the website was suspicious since the day 1. Just look at the name. Weird name to choose for a business like this. Better Call Raul, seriously lol? It's a meme from internet

I visited the website this afternoon and noticed the seizure's page. It was a fake one.
They mixed their name with Chipmixer... well, that's the only thing they really mixed here...
If you check now the page is gone, authorities would not do that and would have keep the site alive for longer

(they had a token based on Ethereum blockchain listed on uniswap)

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May 24, 2023, 04:26:21 AM
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I won't add it to the list since it's a total different business to me, sorry.
You were not mixing your bitcoins but you were swaping them for an altcoin. That's not the purpose of a Bitcoin tumbler and this site has never advertized itself as such (if I'm correct).

All the text on their website about the anonimzation is just a bullshit that they have set up to attract potential customer.

Lol. I didn't know that but yeah it seems a good motive not to put them on this list.

And if you ask me, the website was suspicious since the day 1. Just look at the name. Weird name to choose for a business like this. Better Call Raul, seriously lol? It's a meme from internet

Well, I don't think that's such a good reason anymore, since there are meme coins that have been quite successful on the Internet, albeit seasonally.

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May 31, 2023, 11:15:26 AM
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Hi,
here are some more fake Crypto Mixers or Bitcoin Mixers, they are all SCAM and Phishing:

Mymixer.io (Fake Crypto Mixer - SCAM)
Blendor.io (Fake Bitcoin Mixer - SCAM) (Clone of the original "blender.io" which is down - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blender.io)
blennder.net  (Fake Bitcoin Mixer - SCAM) (Clone of the original "blender.io" which is down - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blender.io)
blender-coin-mixer.com (Fake Bitcoin Mixer - SCAM) (Clone of the original "blender.io" which is down - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blender.io)
Tumbler.cc  (Fake Bitcoin Mixer - SCAM) (Similar Clone of the original "blender.io" which is down - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blender.io)
Kryptomixer.io (Fake Bitcoin Mixer - SCAM) (Clone of the original "[banned mixer]" - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1484009.0)
Crypto-mixer.cc (Fake Bitcoin Mixer - SCAM) (Clone of the original "[banned mixer]" - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1484009.0)
Cryptomixer.icu (Fake Bitcoin Mixer - SCAM) (Clone of the original "[banned mixer]" - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1484009.0)
Cryptomlxer.com (Fake Bitcoin Mixer - SCAM) (Clone of the original "[banned mixer]" - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1484009.0)
Smartmix-blender.com (Fake Bitcoin Mixer- SCAM) (Clone of the original "smartmixer.io" which is down - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5192032.0)
Anonymix.cc (Fake Bitcoin Mixer - SCAM)
Bitcoinmixers.cc (Fake Bitcoin Mixer - SCAM)


There are also 2 fake Crypto Exchanges which are SCAM and Phishing too:

Boomchange.io (SCAM - Fake Crypto Exchange)
Boomchange.com (SCAM - Fake Crypto Exchange)

These fake exchanges scamming people now over years, they promote their fake services with search engine SEO and also buying positive online reviews on sites like Trustpilot and Sitejabber.
This are the social medias of the criminal which he uses to promote this Fraud:
https://www.youtube.com/@boomchange_io
https://www.youtube.com/@boomchangeespanol
https://www.tiktok.com/@boomchange
https://www.facebook.com/people/Boom-Change/100084132785601/
https://www.reddit.com/user/boomchange/
https://twitter.com/BoomChange1

More info about "Boomchange.com / Boomchange.io" Fraud:
https://www.chainabuse.com/domain/boomchange.io
https://www.chainabuse.com/report/2281bb1d-cc6a-4023-a57a-a09504d258a8?context=search-domain&d=
https://www.chainabuse.com/domain/boomchange.com

The cybercriminals residence seems to be in Armenia, you might send a report somehow to the police or gov there.

https://www.bitcoinabuse.com/reports/18vpuWeMMFEZhm5tgxjuTs7aHtwotchPkr - Over 3.5 Bitcoin! got scammed alone in BTC, they got even more in other crypto coins stolen.


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June 01, 2023, 08:52:52 PM
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What shocked me the most is the number of scam mixers. And I believe that's just a small fraction of all scams out there. Another shocking thing is that all mixers closed by the law enforcement also got their BTC seized. Why don't they have any protection against these raids? Or were the owners/employees made to disclose login details and wallet passwords?
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June 01, 2023, 10:03:28 PM
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What shocked me the most is the number of scam mixers. And I believe that's just a small fraction of all scams out there. Another shocking thing is that all mixers closed by the law enforcement also got their BTC seized. Why don't they have any protection against these raids? Or were the owners/employees made to disclose login details and wallet passwords?

I'm also wondering why the funds are so often seized.

If the owners of the mixer are physically arrested, is it conceivable that if some of the funds are returned they could benefit of a reduced sentence?
Or is it just bad security? Maybe they're too confidant and sure of themselves?

Then I imagine that when governments and agencies decide to devote financial and human resources to investigating a team, it's a safe bet that concealing private keys can be difficult. When you see that in most countries just the fact of refusing to decrypt your laptop (when it is encrypted) can be an avowal of guilt or an aggravating circumstance, you can more or less easily think that mixer owners have good reasons for giving their keys away.

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There are also 2 fake Crypto Exchanges which are SCAM and Phishing too:

Boomchange.io (SCAM - Fake Crypto Exchange)
Boomchange.com (SCAM - Fake Crypto Exchange)
I don't know if you have paid enough attention to the post, but this list is exclusive for scam Bitcoin mixers or tumbler. If you have time, then you can create a list of scam exchanges and maintain it

I'm also wondering why the funds are so often seized.

Another shocking thing is that all mixers closed by the law enforcement also got their BTC seized.
Sorry If I may not be having enough info on this but besides Chipmixer, Which other Bitcoin mixer has had their domain seized along size their funds?

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June 04, 2023, 03:06:53 PM
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What shocked me the most is the number of scam mixers.
Isn't that the same with any business nowadays: creating a scam site is much easier than creating a real service.

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Another shocking thing is that all mixers closed by the law enforcement also got their BTC seized. Why don't they have any protection against these raids? Or were the owners/employees made to disclose login details and wallet passwords?
That's because they (have to) use hot wallets for their funds. If the physical server gets seized, the private keys are in there.

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Another shocking thing is that all mixers closed by the law enforcement also got their BTC seized. Why don't they have any protection against these raids? Or were the owners/employees made to disclose login details and wallet passwords?
That's because they (have to) use hot wallets for their funds. If the physical server gets seized, the private keys are in there.
This leads to two possibilities imo, given the amount of money confiscated each time a service got seized ; either that these platforms put all their money in hot wallets, or that there are unconfiscated funds in cold wallets that no one knows who owns their private keys.
For example, the money that was seized from Chipmixer servers did not seem to me a large amount in view of the size of the service, while huge amounts were seized after the FTX assets were confiscated, and after that we did not hear that its owner was acquiring other assets.
Perhaps it is fortunate for the authorities that even if there are complaints about one of the mixers, they remain in the realm of the anonymity, since no one will venture to reveal his identity after the authorities seize all the assets.
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June 05, 2023, 09:46:00 PM
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What shocked me the most is the number of scam mixers.
Isn't that the same with any business nowadays: creating a scam site is much easier than creating a real service.

Unfortunately, you're 100% correct. You need lots of skills to run a business in the long term. It's much easier to order a cheap website on fiverr, run a campaign on bitcointalk and voila: you can run away with the funds.

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Another shocking thing is that all mixers closed by the law enforcement also got their BTC seized. Why don't they have any protection against these raids? Or were the owners/employees made to disclose login details and wallet passwords?
That's because they (have to) use hot wallets for their funds. If the physical server gets seized, the private keys are in there.

What about file system encryption? I've also heard about self-destruct buttons and similar tech to destroy the server remotely. There should be some kind of solution for this.
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