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January 20, 2022, 04:24:30 AM
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Actually posting all the evidence and asking DT flag is also a pretty good course of action.
I agree, and I think OP did the right thing here--he wants negative trust with some oomph to it, if you know what I mean.  The sad fact we all know is that not all negs are created equally; DT negs will change a member's trust score and display the bright red color to members who don't have a customized trust list.  Asking DT for help and presenting solid evidence was the right way to go.

Unfortunately these look like junk accounts that could easily be replaced, because they're just being used for bounty (cheating) activities.  So the owner likely isn't shedding any tears that his reputation is destroyed or anything like that.  It's always so much more fun when members with real reputations get busted for shady shit and bukkake'd with DT red.

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January 20, 2022, 06:10:07 AM
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I agree, and I think OP did the right thing here-
I want to ask, so we members who are not DT members are allowed to ask DT members for help to mark findings of deviant behavior such as bounty cheaters?
So far I've only provided information to bounty managers, and those who negatively tagged this account.

next question,
how to report in the "Known Alt" thread. for non-DT members, who should negatively tag caught accounts? or we or anyone who finds the catch can tag them?

as an example of a report that I made.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg58628321#msg58628321
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg58657263#msg58657263

I don't mean to bring up an old topic. I just want a broader view, when the report gets no response. What is the problem? less strong evidence. Or are there other rules and regulations for the person who will make the report?


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January 20, 2022, 06:49:41 AM
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I just want a broader view, when the report gets no response. What is the problem? less strong evidence. Or are there other rules and regulations for the person who will make the report?

Not enough evidence can be a reason. But I think that another reason is to find DT members that are available and have the willingness to properly check your findings, especially if they are not overwhelming (I say it hypothetically, with not relation to your posts, I didn't check them that good).

And asking DT for help would (as long as you don't spam) :
* get more attention
* help you make better reports if necessary
* get the users tagged

I can tell that I've made reports too (in my case for plagiarism) and nobody handled them. Sometimes it just happens... You may have to insist more and do as you think it's better.

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January 20, 2022, 08:16:49 AM
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I want to ask, so we members who are not DT members are allowed to ask DT members for help to mark findings of deviant behavior such as bounty cheaters?
Sure man, it's a free forum and you can ask DT members to tag cheaters all you like--as long as you provide sufficient evidence, because if you don't you're just going to get ignored.  The way OP did it in this thread was perfectly acceptable, but it's up to individual DT members as to whether they want to tag cheaters, scammers, or whoever.  DT members aren't some unified group that works together; it's just a bunch of members who happen to have high trust ratings, and not all of them are scam busters.

next question,
how to report in the "Known Alt" thread. for non-DT members, who should negatively tag caught accounts? or we or anyone who finds the catch can tag them?
You can certainly do it yourself if you catch someone cheating, though if you're not on DT the member probably won't even notice they've been tagged.  Some years ago I wasn't on DT but had tagged a whole bunch of members for buying/selling accounts.  The day I made it onto the DT list my inbox was flooded with requests to remove the feedback I'd left, because it now carried more weight and those members' trust scores showed up red.

TL;DR: Tag 'em yourself, but try to get at least one DT member to back you.

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January 20, 2022, 08:20:45 AM
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I can tell that I've made reports too (in my case for plagiarism) and nobody handled them. Sometimes it just happens... You may have to insist more and do as you think it's better.

Violation in plagiarism is usually not marked with a negative tag. You just need to provide proof of plagiarism, for which they are actually punished with a complete ban.
One thing to remember when you create a post about plagiarism, you must also submit a report to a moderator. This almost always works flawlessly.
As the moderator himself recently said:
And as a very general info on behavior when you find abnormalities.
The thread here can be used as a reference - But the decisive factor is the click on "report to moderator" because in my opinion none of the mods actively reads this thead.

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January 20, 2022, 08:32:56 AM
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Violation in plagiarism is usually not marked with a negative tag. You just need to provide proof of plagiarism, for which they are actually punished with a complete ban.
One thing to remember when you create a post about plagiarism, you must also submit a report to a moderator. This almost always works flawlessly.
As the moderator himself recently said:

I've even merited that post, hence I clearly didn't miss it Wink
Before I didn't know I have to report too, but after that post I've also reported it. Still, nothing has happened. And yes, I know that the punishment is ban.

I don't even know what else I can do. I don't have anything personal against that account, hence after 3 posts in the Plagiarism topic and with one report too, I guess I will just ignore that account, since I've done my part.
That's also why I "feel the pain" of Pandu Geddon with his work/findings getting basically ignored.

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January 20, 2022, 01:00:06 PM
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* get more attention
I understand that. including as the OP did by creating his thread about accounts found to be fraudulent in the campaign.
but maybe I'll set this path aside. as there is already a well-moderated thread here regarding the linked account. I believe continuing there is for the best.

TL;DR: Tag 'em yourself, but try to get at least one DT member to back you.
yes, I always try to get support from DT. including the bounty manager who is a member of DT.
I made a report for the account of a fraudster who was caught in their campaign (or happened to be in the same campaign). and they are happy to tag everything.
in the case of a finding that does not have the support of a DT member, I will mark it. Thanks for the advice and experience.


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January 21, 2022, 10:31:28 AM
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I don't even know what else I can do. I don't have anything personal against that account, hence after 3 posts in the Plagiarism topic and with one report too, I guess I will just ignore that account, since I've done my part.
That's also why I "feel the pain" of Pandu Geddon with his work/findings getting basically ignored.

You probably didn't tell the moderators directly. Yesterday I made an additional request for a ban, and finally, this account is banned. In addition to plagiarism, he had many more useless posts.



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January 21, 2022, 10:38:49 AM
Last edit: May 14, 2023, 03:01:32 PM by NeuroticFish
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You probably didn't tell the moderators directly. Yesterday I made an additional request for a ban, and finally, this account is banned. In addition to plagiarism, he had many more useless posts.

Well, I guess that they've expected some more reports or they just like/trust you more. My report (only one, why spam the mods?) from 11 January was Unhandled yesterday morning. Now mine is also Good.


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