Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]

[tvbcof]

It's now proved to be a S300 air defense missile from Ukraine.
Whether it was a mistake or a deliberate work is not confirmed by anyone.

Care to share the proof?

You don't need 'the proof' to start in on busying yourself coming up with excuses and mental gymnastics to favor your own side.

Since there is no plausible reason for the Russians to put two small missiles into a Polish crop field, the question is whether it was an accident or some sort of a desperate hail-Mary false-flag type thing on the part of the NaZioncons.  Both are plausible.  Another remote possibility is that indeed the Russian (who made the system in the first place) hijacked the device and sent it in some random direction.

If I were to stoop so low as to make human shields out of nationals as a strategic military doctrine, I would at least try to arrange some sort of self-destruct for the AA missiles so that when the lose targeting and fall to earth at least I wouldn't have to explain 'killing my own people.'  Seems like that for the Zelenskj crowd doing so, killing Ukrainian (civilian or military) is a feature and not a bug.  Maybe do a few Polish farmers as well just for shits and giggles.

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[tsaroz]

It's now proved to be a S300 air defense missile from Ukraine.
Whether it was a mistake or a deliberate work is not confirmed by anyone.

Care to share the proof?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/nov/16/russia-ukraine-war-live-news-emergency-g20-meeting-after-russian-made-missiles-land-in-poland?page=with:block-6374744b8f08341844536e09#block-6374744b8f08341844536e09

The US admitted to it. And Blinken has phoned his Ukrainian counterpart and talked about it.

[zfhrt80]

You have to understand the difference between the "news" of the media you read and the News that free press can and does publish. About poking the bear... well the UK did not kill a dissident in Moscow with Polonium. That is poking.

On regards to UK becoming "small Britain", well, your comment is right... just 107 years old because it started with WW I.

However, you decided to extradite dissident to USA, which is as good as killing him

Also, how many IRA members got killed by good old fashioned bullet, and across the globe?

(or even innocent bystanders like this one)

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/mar/08/menezes-tube-shooting-northern-ireland

Are you defending Russia or what?  What is your point?  Could you attempt to articulate a point please?

I really want to know how far the Russia-Ukraine war is now. It seems that this time has lasted for almost half a year. Which side do you all stand on?

[JordanMychal]

I am surprised there haven't been any threads opened about this yet.

In recent months, Russia has massed hundreds of thousands of troops and other military equipment on the Russia-Ukraine border. It is well known that Russia wants Ukraine to be part of its county, however Russian dictator, President Putin, has claimed that the troop mass is part of a training exercise.

The US and NATO allies are sending military equipment to Ukraine to help repeal an attack, and there is some talk about possibly sending troops to the region.

Update 2/18/22:
It appears there may have been some kind of false flag operation in Dumbas, Ukraine, an area controlled by a separatist group, today, possibly involving an alleged bombing of the car belonging to the leader of the separatist group. It is possible this is part of some kind of false flag operation to create a pretext for an invasion.

President Biden today said he believes Putin has made the decision to invade and will start an invasion in the coming days.

Update 2/21/22:
It appears an invasion has begun

Update 2/23/22:
It appears there are some kind of bombings in Kiev, the capital of Ukraine

Now that the weather is getting colder, the military conditions on the battlefield will become more complicated, but they will not stop fighting, and I think it will be more intense.

[Llhxsdr]

It's now proved to be a S300 air defense missile from Ukraine.
Whether it was a mistake or a deliberate work is not confirmed by anyone.

Care to share the proof?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/nov/16/russia-ukraine-war-live-news-emergency-g20-meeting-after-russian-made-missiles-land-in-poland?page=with:block-6374744b8f08341844536e09#block-6374744b8f08341844536e09

The US admitted to it. And Blinken has phoned his Ukrainian counterpart and talked about it.

U.S. support for Ukraine was evident from the very beginning, and the U.S. has also played a role in this war.

[TwitchySeal]

It's now proved to be a S300 air defense missile from Ukraine.
Whether it was a mistake or a deliberate work is not confirmed by anyone.

Care to share the proof?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/nov/16/russia-ukraine-war-live-news-emergency-g20-meeting-after-russian-made-missiles-land-in-poland?page=with:block-6374744b8f08341844536e09#block-6374744b8f08341844536e09

The US admitted to it. And Blinken has phoned his Ukrainian counterpart and talked about it.

Thanks.  I couldn't find anything earlier.

The Putin Fan boys that think Poland is going to invade Ukraine are really going to eat this up.

[paxmao]

Firstly the US and allies must make up their minds about what happened - my first instinct is that the target obviously does not make any sense and I am not sure there is anything in there that could be a target. A missile flying through half Ukraine must have been at some point detected?

Looking at the picture, it seems a vey small effect for a full missile detonating. You can see a small crater, even smaller than one from an arty shell, and a tractor that is not that badly damaged. Could have been a fragment or even WWII unexploded munitions?

According to Poland's MFA the fragments belong to a "Russian made" missile, which could mean anything from an X-101 cruise missile to a C-300 from a Ukrainian SAM. At least we know it's not Iranian, nor Chinese .

As for target, rumor has it that there is a power plant near the border on the Ukrainian side so it's possible that some ancient cruise missile was aimed at it and missed it by a few km (inertial guidance is a bitch). Otherwise it would be an incredibly unbelievable coincidence that something unrelated exploded at poor farmers at the same time when Russians were launching ~100 missiles at the Ukrainian power grid.

This are the statistics for unexploded ordinance, just for the UK:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/471707/20150320-FOI-02246-Unexploded_Ordnance-Stats.pdf

Around 50 cases a year and this is not in Cambodia nor Laos nor a country in central Africa. It does happen and it particularly happens when working on agricultural tasks (second to construction of course). Poland was pretty much fought all over and the Russian army was there, so there is a case to consider. Mainstream media are speaking of missiles. Again the fragment in the picture is quite crude,  too large for a MANPAD I would say.

Russian made... yep, does not add anything. A fragment from an intercept, quite credible. A "precision" missile, yep also a valid hypothesis.

[tvbcof]

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The Putin Fan boys that think Poland is going to invade Ukraine are really going to eat this up.

In progress according to some reports (which I do not necessarily believe or dis-believe).

A group on nine 'Ukrainians' were smushed recently on the front.  There were five Polaks and the other 4 were of undetermined nationality.  Seems that the so-called 'AFU' are sucking fumes in the 'Ukrainian' tank and have flipped the fuel tank selector.

In another story, Poles resented being sent East to face the Russians and wished to remain among the living for their main mission.  That is, be pre-positioned around and about former Ukraine in order to exploit the inevitable partition of the place.  The hard-core Bandera Ukrainian's job is to guard the rear and kill normal Ukroid conscripts and such who try to escape the front line.  Tensions between the Poles and the Nazis actually resulted in a skirmish with fatalities.  Pretty funny if true, and from what I can see it's completely possible if not likely.

[suchmoon]

The Putin Fan boys that think Poland is going to invade Ukraine are really going to eat this up.

It looks more like Ukraine is invading Poland, so they got it all wrong

In other news on the opposite side of Ukraine, in Russia a fuel storage tank caught fire. You know, the typical spontaneous combustion event that Russians would usually blame on solar flares or something. Now they say it was a drone attack. The place is more than 150km from Ukraine's border. Towards Moscow. And Ukraine's Bayraktars have been destroyed 3 times over. Actually that might explain it. Air defense systems can't detect non-existent drones, clever.

In the village of Stalnoy Kon in the Oryol region, an oil depot was attacked, presumably using a drone, said the head of the region Andrey Klychkov

[o48o]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/nov/16/russia-ukraine-war-live-news-emergency-g20-meeting-after-russian-made-missiles-land-in-poland?page=with:block-6374744b8f08341844536e09#block-6374744b8f08341844536e09

The US admitted to it. And Blinken has phoned his Ukrainian counterpart and talked about it.

As a side note this has been an interesting and funny to watch when it comes to conspirary theorists and russian trolls squirming. How they could use links from mainstream media as an actual solid proof but because mainstream media now sided with russia on this the won't fit their "Liberal media always lies" agenda, they must be losing their minds and think this is some sort of double bluff instead of media reporting the truth.

[tvbcof]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/nov/16/russia-ukraine-war-live-news-emergency-g20-meeting-after-russian-made-missiles-land-in-poland?page=with:block-6374744b8f08341844536e09#block-6374744b8f08341844536e09

The US admitted to it. And Blinken has phoned his Ukrainian counterpart and talked about it.

As a side note this has been an interesting and funny to watch when it comes to conspirary theorists and russian trolls squirming. How they could use links from mainstream media as an actual solid proof but because mainstream media now sided with russia on this the won't fit their "Liberal media always lies" agenda, they must be losing their minds and think this is some sort of double bluff instead of media reporting the truth.

Note to those who have the mental capacity to understand:  'unreliable' != 'always wrong'.  Sorry if that causes you a discomfort by way of cognitive dissonance.

In this case mainstream media tried the hilarious 'parts made in Russia' jingle for a bit but it proved just a little bit to ridiculous.  Worked on Twitchy or Suchshill or one of those guys though.  I get them mixed up.  Anyway, low-information/low-functioning people will bite on anything which looks like it may prove even remotely edible in their desperate hopefulness.  The lamestream media knows this and exploit it.

[LTU_btc]

As a side note this has been an interesting and funny to watch when it comes to conspirary theorists and russian trolls squirming. How they could use links from mainstream media as an actual solid proof but because mainstream media now sided with russia on this the won't fit their "Liberal media always lies" agenda, they must be losing their minds and think this is some sort of double bluff instead of media reporting the truth.
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That very good point. Russians is very selective. When Western media says something against Russia, it's lies, fakes and etc. But when news fits their agenda, even partially, they quote it as reliable source, often taking things out of context.

The Putin Fan boys that think Poland is going to invade Ukraine are really going to eat this up.

I saw some Russian vatniks saying that NATO now should activate 5th article against Ukraine because they attacked NATO country.
About Poland invading Ukraine, it fits their agenda that they use since beginning of war that Poland and Hungary have intentions to share Weatern part of Ukraine.

[o48o]

Note to those who have the mental capacity to understand:  'unreliable' != 'always wrong'.  Sorry if that causes you a discomfort by way of cognitive dissonance.
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I find it funny that some people apparently identify as a russian troll so deeply that they seem to get offended when i only criticize russian trolls.

And while doing this they try to took apart meme that i made just to try to point out that i didn't understand the point.

And if someone doesn't (have the mental capacity to) understand: Those aren't real quotes either. I made them up and could have written literally any made up quote and it seems that they would defend it as a wise thing to say that i just don't get.
 
I know this must be hard to process for someone who only blindly trust to that group of people who don't trust anyone either.

[suchmoon]

Bavovna in Dzhankoi, Crimea. About 200km inside Russian-occupied territory, so kinda beyond the range of your friendly neighborhood HIMARS. Ukrainians might be using some new gadgets. Can't be solar flares because it's the middle of the night.

https://t.me/tipichyidzhankoi/1011

Note to those who have the mental capacity to understand:  'unreliable' != 'always wrong'.

I think you're fine, there doesn't seem to be much risk that you could be put into any category other than "always wrong".

[Branko]

Crazy how accurate he was:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwcwGSFPqIo

[tvbcof]

Crazy how accurate he was:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwcwGSFPqIo

Same actor who threatened NATO to send more money or Ukraine may switch sides.  I wouldn't use the string 'he' without checking it's 'preferred pronouns'.  It's a pretty weird individual in a number of ways.  You'd have to ask Zenskij the cokehead to know which of it's peculiarities are of such appeal that he keeps it around in a chief advisor role.  Maybe it's just the will of their mutual boss Igor Kolomoyskyi.

[coolcoinz]

Crazy how accurate he was:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwcwGSFPqIo

Same actor who threatened NATO to send more money or Ukraine may switch sides.  I wouldn't use the string 'he' without checking it's 'preferred pronouns'.  It's a pretty weird individual in a number of ways.  You'd have to ask Zenskij the cokehead to know which of it's peculiarities are of such appeal that he keeps it around in a chief advisor role.  Maybe it's just the will of their mutual boss Igor Kolomoyskyi.

So much hate, so much name calling, even some transgender implications towards a person without any transgender characteristics.
I'm sorry that your special operation isn't going according to plan and you have to resort to this in a forum where most people laugh at Russian war efforts.

Ok, I admit it, I was joking, I'm not sorry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFlqI3KYiIU

[cornhodlr]

Crazy how accurate he was:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwcwGSFPqIo

He couldn't have predicted it better even if the Russians discussed it with him beforehand or planned it between them.Any chance you can get this guy on the phone to find out what are the best shit coins to buy right now?

[suchmoon]

Crazy how accurate he was:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwcwGSFPqIo

Wait, kremlinists now watch Arestovych? That would explain how they keep believing that Putin is winning by retreating.

[Branko]

Crazy how accurate he was:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwcwGSFPqIo

Wait, kremlinists now watch Arestovych? That would explain how they keep believing that Putin is winning by retreating.

he also believed his own propaganda like you do, and said Ukraine will win in May 2022, because USA and UK are backing Ukraine