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February 02, 2025, 05:42:34 PM
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The final days of the Zelenskyy puppet
https://x.com/i/status/1885748980539109771
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February 02, 2025, 10:48:12 PM
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Current US aid to UA is frozen, Trump talks about starting a trade war with EU, support for more aid to UA in US and EU is at the all time low, and you talk about scenarios where current republican US congress approves and then Trump signs and starts to send even more aid to Ukraine than Biden? Â Undecided i'm sure that'll happen, any second now, keep believing, just don't hold your breath.

Sure, no NATO, neutral status, minimal military, Russian language gets official status and RU orthodox church, protected in the new UA constitution, no LGBT, new UA government (Z looses), and Russia keeps it's land, and we can get some UN peace keepers there. Pretty sure that's all that Russia asked for from the begging, minus the new territories. Then what was the point of spilling so much blood? This will be an easy sell for Putin, but will Z be able to somehow sell it as a win to Ukrainians or will they run him out to London with pitchforks?

This is what Trump just did to it's closest ally Canada where they were clapping for that Ukrainian Nazi

Even as Canada’s prime minister announced more than $100 billion in retaliatory tariffs, he made clear that he was imposing them reluctantly.
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“We don’t want to be here,” Mr. Trudeau said in a somber televised address from Ottawa that evoked the deep bonds between the two neighbors and close trading partners. “We didn’t ask for this.”
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Mr. Trudeau addressed Americans directly, saying that the U.S. tariffs on Canadian goods would harm them, too.
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Mr. Trudeau is a lame-duck leader at a crucial moment. He has said that he will resign as prime minister and leader of the Liberal Party when his party chooses a new leader, and automatically prime minister, in March. But experts believe the tariffs that take effect on Tuesday will tip the country into a recession, putting hundreds of thousands of jobs at risk.
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But he also focused on the historically close ties between Canada and the U.S., including military cooperation in two world wars as well as the Korean War and the war in Afghanistan. “From the beaches of Normandy to the mountains of the Korean Peninsula, from the fields of Flanders to the streets of Kandahar, we have fought and died alongside you during your darkest hours,” he said.
Looks like Trump doesn't care and is just retaliating against everyone that didn't support him, or supported Biden more.

Yeah Cuba wanted to take a piece of that "financial expansionism", don't think it turned out well for them either, but Z still decided to try

Edit:
Trump is already sending signs to Ukraine

U.S. wants Ukraine to hold elections following a ceasefire, says Trump envoy
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Keith Kellogg, Trump's special envoy for Ukraine and Russia, said in an interview that Ukrainian presidential and parliamentary elections, suspended during the war with Russia, "need to be done".
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"Most democratic nations have elections in their time of war. I think it is important they do so," Kellogg said. "I think it is good for democracy. That's the beauty of a solid democracy, you have more than one person potentially running."
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His opponents are also encouraged by the barrage of criticism Mr. Trump and his aides have aimed at Mr. Zelensky.

Yep Trump is about to send so much aid to Zelenskyy he won't be able to handle it  Roll Eyes

Oh, no, he will hand over Ukraine and, now that we are at it, part of Poland and the Baltic countries, and then he will come to the European Union and tell them that they have to spend money in the US military industry.

Surely that sounds like a plan to you.

Do not get confused by the noise, Trump promised to end the war in 2 days and it is not happening, so make your own conclusions about how "accurate" he is when speaking.

RE CUBA You are an absolute ignorant.

Castro DID seek that financial expansionism. He travelled to Washington and was denied a reception on the Oval Office on the grounds that "dictators are not allowed there". Embracing the USSR was not by choice... Ruzzia was the second pick altogheter... as usual.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/17/fidel-castro-visit-washington-cuba-1959

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National Airport in Washington, April 15, 1959, from Havana.
[...]
These charges of communism do not really touch the American peoples’ concern about Castro. They do not think he is an agent of Moscow.
[...]
He breathed goodwill on the United States and hoped the visit would wipe away the clouds of misunderstanding about the situation in Cuba.


but....

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The State Department - which was overwhelmed by surprise when Castro swept Batista into oblivion - at first murmured sad doubts about the wisdom and propriety of inviting Castro at this time. This official timidity led some nervous editors to complain to their society.



I understand, hope dies last. But once this is all over in about 100 days or so, I'm wondering if you'll have the strength to objectively assess Ukraine's position in 2013 before cookies arrived, the proposed agreements which Ukraine refused in 2022, and what Ukraine ended up with. Or will you just parrot that all those lost Ukrainian lives were not in vain because they helped Trump to make US great again Undecided

Let's provide some context and perhaps even educate you a bit:

1944-Fulgencio Batista Cuban president is overthrown and moves to USA, Florida!
1947-Fidel Castro tried to overthrow US backed Rafael Trujillo in Dominican Republic
1948-Fidel Castro publicly criticizes US imperialism
1948-Fidel Castro joined riots in Bogota, Colombia against US aligned conservative establishment
1950-Fidel Castro Caring little for money or material goods, Castro failed to pay his bills; his furniture was repossessed and electricity cut off, distressing his wife.
1952-Fulgencio Batista leaves US, goes to Cuba and stages military coup and becomes a DICTATOR!
1952-Fulgencio Batista severs diplomatic relations with the Soviet Union and receives financial, military, and logistical support from US!
1953-Fidel Castro leads unsuccessful attack against Fulgencio Batista government
1955-Fidel Castro aligns with Che Guevara
1959 January 1-Fidel Castro overthrows Fulgencio Batista who flees Cuba and ends up in USA
1959 March-Fidel Castro signs law aimed to redistribute land from large landowners to peasants
1959 April 15-Fulgencio Batista US backed dictator in exile is also believed to be in US!
1959 April 17-Fidel Castro meets with US vice president Nixon, but president Eisenhower didn't want to meet with Castro because Castro had communist ties and he overthrew US backed dictator Batista

But as you say I am the ignorant one and Castro wanted financial expansionism from US in April 17 1959  Roll Eyes yeeeppp we all believe you! With such skills you should join some ministry of reeducation, and rewrite some history books.

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February 02, 2025, 11:12:35 PM
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Current US aid to UA is frozen, Trump talks about starting a trade war with EU, support for more aid to UA in US and EU is at the all time low, and you talk about scenarios where current republican US congress approves and then Trump signs and starts to send even more aid to Ukraine than Biden? Â Undecided i'm sure that'll happen, any second now, keep believing, just don't hold your breath.

Sure, no NATO, neutral status, minimal military, Russian language gets official status and RU orthodox church, protected in the new UA constitution, no LGBT, new UA government (Z looses), and Russia keeps it's land, and we can get some UN peace keepers there. Pretty sure that's all that Russia asked for from the begging, minus the new territories. Then what was the point of spilling so much blood? This will be an easy sell for Putin, but will Z be able to somehow sell it as a win to Ukrainians or will they run him out to London with pitchforks?

This is what Trump just did to it's closest ally Canada where they were clapping for that Ukrainian Nazi

Even as Canada’s prime minister announced more than $100 billion in retaliatory tariffs, he made clear that he was imposing them reluctantly.
...
“We don’t want to be here,” Mr. Trudeau said in a somber televised address from Ottawa that evoked the deep bonds between the two neighbors and close trading partners. “We didn’t ask for this.”
...
Mr. Trudeau addressed Americans directly, saying that the U.S. tariffs on Canadian goods would harm them, too.
...
Mr. Trudeau is a lame-duck leader at a crucial moment. He has said that he will resign as prime minister and leader of the Liberal Party when his party chooses a new leader, and automatically prime minister, in March. But experts believe the tariffs that take effect on Tuesday will tip the country into a recession, putting hundreds of thousands of jobs at risk.
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But he also focused on the historically close ties between Canada and the U.S., including military cooperation in two world wars as well as the Korean War and the war in Afghanistan. “From the beaches of Normandy to the mountains of the Korean Peninsula, from the fields of Flanders to the streets of Kandahar, we have fought and died alongside you during your darkest hours,” he said.
Looks like Trump doesn't care and is just retaliating against everyone that didn't support him, or supported Biden more.

Yeah Cuba wanted to take a piece of that "financial expansionism", don't think it turned out well for them either, but Z still decided to try

Edit:
Trump is already sending signs to Ukraine

U.S. wants Ukraine to hold elections following a ceasefire, says Trump envoy
...
Keith Kellogg, Trump's special envoy for Ukraine and Russia, said in an interview that Ukrainian presidential and parliamentary elections, suspended during the war with Russia, "need to be done".
...
"Most democratic nations have elections in their time of war. I think it is important they do so," Kellogg said. "I think it is good for democracy. That's the beauty of a solid democracy, you have more than one person potentially running."
...
His opponents are also encouraged by the barrage of criticism Mr. Trump and his aides have aimed at Mr. Zelensky.

Yep Trump is about to send so much aid to Zelenskyy he won't be able to handle it  Roll Eyes

Oh, no, he will hand over Ukraine and, now that we are at it, part of Poland and the Baltic countries, and then he will come to the European Union and tell them that they have to spend money in the US military industry.

Surely that sounds like a plan to you.

Do not get confused by the noise, Trump promised to end the war in 2 days and it is not happening, so make your own conclusions about how "accurate" he is when speaking.

RE CUBA You are an absolute ignorant.

Castro DID seek that financial expansionism. He travelled to Washington and was denied a reception on the Oval Office on the grounds that "dictators are not allowed there". Embracing the USSR was not by choice... Ruzzia was the second pick altogheter... as usual.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/17/fidel-castro-visit-washington-cuba-1959

Quote
National Airport in Washington, April 15, 1959, from Havana.
[...]
These charges of communism do not really touch the American peoples’ concern about Castro. They do not think he is an agent of Moscow.
[...]
He breathed goodwill on the United States and hoped the visit would wipe away the clouds of misunderstanding about the situation in Cuba.


but....

Quote
The State Department - which was overwhelmed by surprise when Castro swept Batista into oblivion - at first murmured sad doubts about the wisdom and propriety of inviting Castro at this time. This official timidity led some nervous editors to complain to their society.



I understand, hope dies last. But once this is all over in about 100 days or so, I'm wondering if you'll have the strength to objectively assess Ukraine's position in 2013 before cookies arrived, the proposed agreements which Ukraine refused in 2022, and what Ukraine ended up with. Or will you just parrot that all those lost Ukrainian lives were not in vain because they helped Trump to make US great again Undecided

Let's provide some context and perhaps even educate you a bit:

1944-Fulgencio Batista Cuban president is overthrown and moves to USA, Florida!
1947-Fidel Castro tried to overthrow US backed Rafael Trujillo in Dominican Republic
1948-Fidel Castro publicly criticizes US imperialism
1948-Fidel Castro joined riots in Bogota, Colombia against US aligned conservative establishment
1950-Fidel Castro Caring little for money or material goods, Castro failed to pay his bills; his furniture was repossessed and electricity cut off, distressing his wife.
1952-Fulgencio Batista leaves US, goes to Cuba and stages military coup and becomes a DICTATOR!
1952-Fulgencio Batista severs diplomatic relations with the Soviet Union and receives financial, military, and logistical support from US!
1953-Fidel Castro leads unsuccessful attack against Fulgencio Batista government
1955-Fidel Castro aligns with Che Guevara
1959 January 1-Fidel Castro overthrows Fulgencio Batista who flees Cuba and ends up in USA
1959 March-Fidel Castro signs law aimed to redistribute land from large landowners to peasants
1959 April 15-Fidel Castro travels to the United States to attend the United Nations General Assembly
1959 April 15-Fulgencio Batista US backed dictator in exile is also believed to be in US!
1959 April 17-Fidel Castro meets with US vice president Nixon, but president Eisenhower didn't want to meet with Castro because Castro had communist ties and he overthrew US backed dictator Batista

But as you say I am the ignorant one and Castro wanted financial expansionism from US in April 17 1959 Â Roll Eyes yeeeppp we all believe you! With such skills you should join some ministry of reeducation, and rewrite some history books.

You speaking of objectivity is such a joke  Grin Grin Grin And that fixation for "cookies" just do not allow you to see that Ruzzia is the worst ally (shall I say the worst puppet master) and anyone who can will try to escape.

Walltexting is stupid. Anyone can do a quick google search, but you simply did not know anything about it and still don't. Just go and speak with Cubans old enought to remember to get a glimpse of thruth.

 Â Castro did want to have economic relations or what you call "economic expansionism", AKA progressm AKA investment, but the White House simply saw him as too risky due to his past activity. THEN and only then, he looked for Ruzzia. And now Cuba... well, it is what it is.

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February 02, 2025, 11:30:08 PM
Last edit: February 02, 2025, 11:39:34 PM by Xal0lex
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You speaking of objectivity is such a joke  Grin Grin Grin And that fixation for "cookies" just do not allow you to see that Ruzzia is the worst ally (shall I say the worst puppet master) and anyone who can will try to escape.
 You pigeon holed yourself into friend
Walltexting is stupid. Anyone can do a quick google search, but you simply did not know anything about it and still don't. Just go and speak with Cubans old enought to remember to get a glimpse of thruth.

 Â Castro did want to have economic relations or what you call "economic expansionism", AKA progressm AKA investment, but the White House simply saw him as too risky due to his past activity. THEN and only then, he looked for Ruzzia. And now Cuba... well, it is what it is.

You funny, are you not capable of understanding that it's possible (and actually smart) for a small country to try and play both sides? Just because Castro with already Marxist ideology went to US first, country 150km from Cuba that was providing financial support to the previous Cuban dictator, in no way implies that he was somehow against Soviet Union politically or ideologically.  

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February 03, 2025, 01:52:28 AM
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You speaking of objectivity is such a joke  Grin Grin Grin And that fixation for "cookies" just do not allow you to see that Ruzzia is the worst ally (shall I say the worst puppet master) and anyone who can will try to escape.
 You pigeon holed yourself into friend
Walltexting is stupid. Anyone can do a quick google search, but you simply did not know anything about it and still don't. Just go and speak with Cubans old enought to remember to get a glimpse of thruth.

 Â Castro did want to have economic relations or what you call "economic expansionism", AKA progressm AKA investment, but the White House simply saw him as too risky due to his past activity. THEN and only then, he looked for Ruzzia. And now Cuba... well, it is what it is.

You funny, are you not capable of understanding that it's possible (and actually smart) for a small country to try and play both sides? Just because Castro with already Marxist ideology went to US first, country 150km from Cuba that was providing financial support to the previous Cuban dictator, in no way implies that he was somehow against Soviet Union politically or ideologically.  

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8xaNmrC_jfI?feature=share

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Musk says shutting down USAID in government cost-cutting drive

Billionaire Elon Musk, who is heading U.S. President Donald Trump's efforts to shrink the federal government, gave an update on the effort early Monday, saying they are working to shut down the U.S. foreign aid agency USAID.
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"It's beyond repair," Musk said, adding that President Trump agrees it should be shut down.

On Sunday Reuters reported the Trump administration removed two top security officials at USAID during the weekend after they tried to stop representatives from billionaire Musk's Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) from gaining access to restricted parts of the building, three sources said.
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USAID is the world's largest single donor. In fiscal year 2023, the U.S. disbursed $72 billion of assistance worldwide on everything from women's health in conflict zones to access to clean water, HIV/AIDS treatments, energy security and anti-corruption work. It provided 42% of all humanitarian aid tracked by the United Nations in 2024.
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Musk has Trump's support. Asked if Musk was doing a good job Sunday, Trump agreed. "He's a big cost-cutter. Sometimes we won't agree with it and we'll not go where he wants to go. But I think he's doing a great job. He's a smart guy. Very smart. And he's very much into cutting the budget of our federal budget."
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They forgot to mention that USAID sponsors NGOs, and was one of the main ways US spread its sphere of influence using soft power. Including pushing educational materials, language, culture, and ofcourse LGBT etc... They really are reworking the world order, needless to say with tariffs and now this, Ukraine won't even be an afterthought now, any suggestion of sending more aid to Ukraine is just laughable now. The clock is ticking...

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Musk says shutting down USAID in government cost-cutting drive

Billionaire Elon Musk, who is heading U.S. President Donald Trump's efforts to shrink the federal government, gave an update on the effort early Monday, saying they are working to shut down the U.S. foreign aid agency USAID.
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"It's beyond repair," Musk said, adding that President Trump agrees it should be shut down.

On Sunday Reuters reported the Trump administration removed two top security officials at USAID during the weekend after they tried to stop representatives from billionaire Musk's Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) from gaining access to restricted parts of the building, three sources said.
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USAID is the world's largest single donor. In fiscal year 2023, the U.S. disbursed $72 billion of assistance worldwide on everything from women's health in conflict zones to access to clean water, HIV/AIDS treatments, energy security and anti-corruption work. It provided 42% of all humanitarian aid tracked by the United Nations in 2024.
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Musk has Trump's support. Asked if Musk was doing a good job Sunday, Trump agreed. "He's a big cost-cutter. Sometimes we won't agree with it and we'll not go where he wants to go. But I think he's doing a great job. He's a smart guy. Very smart. And he's very much into cutting the budget of our federal budget."
Shocked
They forgot to mention that USAID sponsors NGOs, and was one of the main ways US spread its sphere of influence using soft power. Including pushing educational materials, language, culture, and ofcourse LGBT etc... They really are reworking the world order, needless to say with tariffs and now this, Ukraine won't even be an afterthought now, any suggestion of sending more aid to Ukraine is just laughable now. The clock is ticking...

Indeed...most "humanitarian" aid from USA is not aid at all, but serves to promote USA imperialism
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Musk says shutting down USAID in government cost-cutting drive

Billionaire Elon Musk, who is heading U.S. President Donald Trump's efforts to shrink the federal government, gave an update on the effort early Monday, saying they are working to shut down the U.S. foreign aid agency USAID.
...
"It's beyond repair," Musk said, adding that President Trump agrees it should be shut down.

On Sunday Reuters reported the Trump administration removed two top security officials at USAID during the weekend after they tried to stop representatives from billionaire Musk's Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) from gaining access to restricted parts of the building, three sources said.
...
USAID is the world's largest single donor. In fiscal year 2023, the U.S. disbursed $72 billion of assistance worldwide on everything from women's health in conflict zones to access to clean water, HIV/AIDS treatments, energy security and anti-corruption work. It provided 42% of all humanitarian aid tracked by the United Nations in 2024.
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Musk has Trump's support. Asked if Musk was doing a good job Sunday, Trump agreed. "He's a big cost-cutter. Sometimes we won't agree with it and we'll not go where he wants to go. But I think he's doing a great job. He's a smart guy. Very smart. And he's very much into cutting the budget of our federal budget."
Shocked
They forgot to mention that USAID sponsors NGOs, and was one of the main ways US spread its sphere of influence using soft power. Including pushing educational materials, language, culture, and ofcourse LGBT etc... They really are reworking the world order, needless to say with tariffs and now this, Ukraine won't even be an afterthought now, any suggestion of sending more aid to Ukraine is just laughable now. The clock is ticking...

Indeed...most "humanitarian" aid from USA is not aid at all, but serves to promote USA imperialism

You got it. My question is, Does Trump know how the banking system really works to screw everybody? Does he realize that when he is using it to screw Ukraine, he is using it to screw America as well? If he knows, is he going to do anything about it? He should really lift the sanctions so that Russia can be screwed, too, for using the Western banking system.

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February 03, 2025, 12:09:40 PM
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And while people wonder around here saying "stuff", some stuff is happening in Volgograd...

https://youtu.be/jrDdpvrSinE

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraines-drone-attack-sparks-fire-forces-flight-suspensions-several-russian-2025-02-03/

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Fire triggered at Volgograd oil refinery - governor
Ukraine says it targeted Astrakhan gas processing plant
Fire in Astrakhan region - governor
Damage to the Astrakhan refinery is being assessed

This is expensive and what one would call "motivation" to declare a "victory" over Ukraine and decide that this is enough for now. But... well, we all know Putin and it is going to require more pressure and more dead and more billions in infrastructure destroyed.

Whatever happens, Ruzzia is going to be in shambles for quite a few years if not a decade after this.

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Recruiting in Ukraine continues...some volunteers have to be forcibly turned down because there are so many:

https://t.me/warhistoryalconafter/205483
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Probably around three years ago I made a prediction which I will now reiterate:

'Ukraine' proper will be a rump state and client of Russia via more-or-less democratic processes.  It will include areas in present day NE Ukraine.  The reason I think this is that the populations in these areas are not particularly pro-Russian and would be harder to manage.  One way or another, this area will never be militarized by whatever is left of the present day 'collective West' so it will not be a threat to Russia.  Also, there are not really very many valuable resources in this area.

Russia will dribble out enough 'Nazi-adjacent' POW's originating from Western Ukraine to give the Polish+ occupiers of Galicia a hard time.  Probably they will be trained in modern warfare tactics by the Russians and outfitted by said as a parting gift.  Russia has zero interest in Galicia and would refuse it even if it were offered to them as a gift.  Too many Zionazis to be worth the bother, and they will be mentally fucked up beyond recovery for the next 50 years.

I remain as uncertain as ever about what will happen in Odessa.  The Zios' are very interested in control of a contiguous area going from the Black Sea to Baltic so they can extract their tribute from pipelines transporting Russian product to Europe.  Odessa is to be the Black Sea anchor point for both practical and mystical reasons.  The West WILL fight to the last French/German/etc for Odessa because they are under control of the Zios.  Probably America would as well for similar reasons.  But that still might not be enough.

Neutral territory touching Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Slovakia, and Poland would suite the Russian Federation quite well.  Even better would be straight-up Russian Federation territory touching as many as possible. The question is, how much control do the Zios' have over Putin and the rest of the Russian apparatus?  Would Putin put Russian long-term interests first, or would he capitulate to Zionist interests?


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Probably around three years ago I made a prediction which I will now reiterate:

'Ukraine' proper will be a rump state and client of Russia via more-or-less democratic processes.  It will include areas in present day NE Ukraine.  The reason I think this is that the populations in these areas are not particularly pro-Russian and would be harder to manage.  One way or another, this area will never be militarized by whatever is left of the present day 'collective West' so it will not be a threat to Russia.  Also, there are not really very many valuable resources in this area.

Russia will dribble out enough 'Nazi-adjacent' POW's originating from Western Ukraine to give the Polish+ occupiers of Galicia a hard time.  Probably they will be trained in modern warfare tactics by the Russians and outfitted by said as a parting gift.  Russia has zero interest in Galicia and would refuse it even if it were offered to them as a gift.  Too many Zionazis to be worth the bother, and they will be mentally fucked up beyond recovery for the next 50 years.

I remain as uncertain as ever about what will happen in Odessa.  The Zios' are very interested in control of a contiguous area going from the Black Sea to Baltic so they can extract their tribute from pipelines transporting Russian product to Europe.  Odessa is to be the Black Sea anchor point for both practical and mystical reasons.  The West WILL fight to the last French/German/etc for Odessa because they are under control of the Zios.  Probably America would as well for similar reasons.  But that still might not be enough.

Neutral territory touching Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Slovakia, and Poland would suite the Russian Federation quite well.  Even better would be straight-up Russian Federation territory touching as many as possible. The question is, how much control do the Zios' have over Putin and the rest of the Russian apparatus?  Would Putin put Russian long-term interests first, or would he capitulate to Zionist interests?



Honestly, if I had failed a prediction, not just by a bit, but pretty much hundred percent and to any and all sentences in it, I would rather not re-post it. But that's just me I guess.

Meanwhile exactly the opposite is happening. If Ukraine was to be alienated and made a puppet Ruzzian estate it would have already happened. The conversation is still ongoing because there is clearly an intention of keeping an state called Ukraine, clearly un-linked from the Moscovian regime.

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Meanwhile exactly the opposite is happening. If Ukraine was to be alienated and made a puppet Ruzzian estate it would have already happened. The conversation is still ongoing because there is clearly an intention of keeping an state called Ukraine, clearly un-linked from the Moscovian regime.

Even the stupidest of what's left of the Ukrainians won't be able to help but notice that they where genocided and abandoned by the 'collective West' and they will not be able to help but recognize that they will be vastly better off by aligning with the Russian Federation going forward.  They will willingly align with the Russian Federation simply because it will be a better choice.

I expect Galicia to be a fairly long duration mid to low grade conflict zone for as long as Euorpe wants the play with the tar-baby.  That is to say, as long as they have their leadership is assigned by the World Economic Forum who still have quite a stable of 'young global leaders' lined up and waiting for their turn.


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February 04, 2025, 08:18:07 AM
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The final days of the Zelenskyy puppet
https://x.com/i/status/1885748980539109771
Time for everone to be the own president, in charge of owns destiny.

We've been hearing about "these days" since 2022, let's come up with something else already. Grin Grin Grin
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February 04, 2025, 03:03:59 PM
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The final days of the Zelenskyy puppet
https://x.com/i/status/1885748980539109771
Time for everone to be the own president, in charge of owns destiny.

We've been hearing about "these days" since 2022, let's come up with something else already. Grin Grin Grin

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The final days of the Zelenskyy puppet
https://x.com/i/status/1885748980539109771
Time for everone to be the own president, in charge of owns destiny.

We've been hearing about "these days" since 2022, let's come up with something else already. Grin Grin Grin

https://youtu.be/HWBgAyrrbvw

If you joing the Ruzzian army, get the sign bonus in advance.
I think this war wouldn't have escalated to it's current state if Trump was the president then, he would done better than Biden in handling the whole situation amicably, Donald Trump is not an advocate of physical wars that results to the destruction of lives and properties and would rather priotise trade and economic war like the ongoing with China.
 So I don't think he would've even allow it start in the first place, talk more of allowing Ukraine join NATO which is on of the major cause of the war, the previous government have wasted billions in dollar just to fund Ukraine against Russia but that's something Trump’s wouldn't have tolerated.
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February 04, 2025, 11:39:50 PM
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The final days of the Zelenskyy puppet
https://x.com/i/status/1885748980539109771
Time for everone to be the own president, in charge of owns destiny.

We've been hearing about "these days" since 2022, let's come up with something else already. Grin Grin Grin

https://youtu.be/HWBgAyrrbvw

If you joing the Ruzzian army, get the sign bonus in advance.
I think this war wouldn't have escalated to it's current state if Trump was the president then, he would done better than Biden in handling the whole situation amicably, Donald Trump is not an advocate of physical wars that results to the destruction of lives and properties and would rather priotise trade and economic war like the ongoing with China.
 So I don't think he would've even allow it start in the first place, talk more of allowing Ukraine join NATO which is on of the major cause of the war, the previous government have wasted billions in dollar just to fund Ukraine against Russia but that's something Trump’s wouldn't have tolerated.

The question is what would he have done? Certainly the sanctions only provoked it. It started in 2014, mostly by Ukraine - with US backing. 2022 was only Russia's response. But the media have panted us a wrong picture.

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Nobody here including our esteemed in house "law experts" on the thread understand that this war in Ukraine is simply on the slow burner and not meant to conclude until Russia completely attacks Ukraine and then war spreads into Europe. Everything before this has been drawn out in the manner it has to ensure this will be the conclusion.

You also don't understand every technology being rolled out for the future in the same way like simple but profound changes such as gpu processing completely replacing cpu processing is just a small precursor to what will be ready and in place after the global economy is in ashes and everything of value owned by the people who will rule the new world system of networks not nations after the dust has settled and many millions have been killed, starved to submission, weakened from literal plagues and totally impoverished. Even the outsider investors in behemoths like NVIDIA which will of course be at the top of the tech table after a great crash to readjust its absurd value to earnings ratio like many others and large hedge funds that hoover up global assets that collapse after the great bait and switch which the crypto craze will bring about and allow massive transfers of wealth to satans acolytes both great and small many of whom live on the forum here. Little do you know you worship Lucifer as you scoff at fools who mention Jesus of Nazareth who came in the flesh and walked the earth preaching and living the gospel and the way to everlasting life.

Anyway back to business.. so after global turmoil the AntiChrist will rule the world and all that is left in it. Scoffers need to understand that the greatest sin of all sins is pride and their pride that makes them scoff at such a tall tale above is what may bring them riches in this world but guaranteed ruin upon leaving it.

Repent and get right with Jesus yall and leave the world behind because you are about to "live in interesting times".
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Nobody here including our esteemed in house "law experts" on the thread understand that this war in Ukraine is simply on the slow burner and not meant to conclude until Russia completely attacks Ukraine and then war spreads into Europe. Everything before this has been drawn out in the manner it has to ensure this will be the conclusion.

You also don't understand every technology being rolled out for the future in the same way like simple but profound changes such as gpu processing completely replacing cpu processing is just a small precursor to what will be ready and in place after the global economy is in ashes and everything of value owned by the people who will rule the new world system of networks not nations after the dust has settled and many millions have been killed, starved to submission, weakened from literal plagues and totally impoverished. Even the outsider investors in behemoths like NVIDIA which will of course be at the top of the tech table after a great crash to readjust its absurd value to earnings ratio like many others and large hedge funds that hoover up global assets that collapse after the great bait and switch which the crypto craze will bring about and allow massive transfers of wealth to satans acolytes both great and small many of whom live on the forum here. Little do you know you worship Lucifer as you scoff at fools who mention Jesus of Nazareth who came in the flesh and walked the earth preaching and living the gospel and the way to everlasting life.

Anyway back to business.. so after global turmoil the AntiChrist will rule the world and all that is left in it. Scoffers need to understand that the greatest sin of all sins is pride and their pride that makes them scoff at such a tall tale above is what may bring them riches in this world but guaranteed ruin upon leaving it.

Repent and get right with Jesus yall and leave the world behind because you are about to "live in interesting times".

Now the grandfathers will come to an agreement and everything will be fine.
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Nobody here including our esteemed in house "law experts" on the thread understand that this war in Ukraine is simply on the slow burner and not meant to conclude until Russia completely attacks Ukraine and then war spreads into Europe. Everything before this has been drawn out in the manner it has to ensure this will be the conclusion.

You also don't understand every technology being rolled out for the future in the same way like simple but profound changes such as gpu processing completely replacing cpu processing is just a small precursor to what will be ready and in place after the global economy is in ashes and everything of value owned by the people who will rule the new world system of networks not nations after the dust has settled and many millions have been killed, starved to submission, weakened from literal plagues and totally impoverished. Even the outsider investors in behemoths like NVIDIA which will of course be at the top of the tech table after a great crash to readjust its absurd value to earnings ratio like many others and large hedge funds that hoover up global assets that collapse after the great bait and switch which the crypto craze will bring about and allow massive transfers of wealth to satans acolytes both great and small many of whom live on the forum here. Little do you know you worship Lucifer as you scoff at fools who mention Jesus of Nazareth who came in the flesh and walked the earth preaching and living the gospel and the way to everlasting life.

Anyway back to business.. so after global turmoil the AntiChrist will rule the world and all that is left in it. Scoffers need to understand that the greatest sin of all sins is pride and their pride that makes them scoff at such a tall tale above is what may bring them riches in this world but guaranteed ruin upon leaving it.

Repent and get right with Jesus yall and leave the world behind because you are about to "live in interesting times".

Now the grandfathers will come to an agreement and everything will be fine.


Now Zelensky wants to meet with Putin. Does that make him a grandfather? Lol. Or a leader?  Cheesy


Zelensky Tells Piers Morgan He's Ready To Negotiate Directly With Putin In Major Reversal



https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/first-zelensky-tells-pierse-morgan-hes-ready-negotiate-putin
Ukrainian leader Volodymyr Zelensky has told British journalist Piers Morgan that he would would agree to direct talks with Russia's Vladimir Putin to end the countries' nearly three-year long war.

Morgan asked him how he would feel if he sat opposite Putin at the negotiating table, to which Zelensky responded: "If that is the only set-up in which we can bring peace to the citizens of Ukraine and not lose people, definitely we will go for this set-up," but noted that other "participants" would need to be present.

So while it was somewhat of an imagined or theoretical scenario, it was the first time Zelensky has ever responded with a positive answer or expressed a willingness to such a proposition. Zelensky has never so much as theoretically acknowledged he's ready to sit at the negotiating table when asked in prior media interviews.

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Here's the interview segment where Morgan asked the Ukrainian leader about sitting down with Putin:

Zelensky also reiterated his longtime stance that Ukraine must be admitted into NATO, and have firm security guarantees to prevent any future Russian invasion in a post-war system.
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