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May 02, 2022, 11:28:16 PM
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Russia supply the world with most of their resources and many countries including europe depend on Russia for natural resources, so imposing sanctions on Russia is just like planing your trap. Putin was prepared for all the drama we are seeing now that is why it doesn't bother him at all. The war has not ended and Russia is planning to launch more attack in Ukraine despite the sanctions from NATO countries and the European Union.
On the time that they had launched and invasive attack then they are already that prepared on what would be the consequences or effects that they would suffer out and it had been proven out and been seen
considering on how long this war had been running which does signifies that they could really withstand sanctions in overall but there would really be coming into a point on which
it would really be having a big toll or effect into their economy.It might not or cant be seen as of this moment but if this one would go for long term then
that would be surely felt off.

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May 03, 2022, 02:38:24 AM
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Russia supply the world with most of their resources and many countries including europe depend on Russia for natural resources, so imposing sanctions on Russia is just like planing your trap. Putin was prepared for all the drama we are seeing now that is why it doesn't bother him at all. The war has not ended and Russia is planning to launch more attack in Ukraine despite the sanctions from NATO countries and the European Union.

Again and again, the Europeans are turning out to be a bunch of idiots. The Russian oil and gas is still flowing in to other countries such as India and China. It may take a few months for the Russian producers to accept the new reality, but after that it will be business as usual. The crude oil prices have gone up by more than 150% in the last 12 months. Natural gas prices are up by more than 500%. So even by selling at a discount, the Russians are making a hefty profit. Biden is happy, as his friends in OPEC are making billions of USD every day. But the ordinary citizens of EU are going to suffer, as they need to import most of their oil and gas.

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May 03, 2022, 09:46:35 PM
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Russia supply the world with most of their resources and many countries including europe depend on Russia for natural resources, so imposing sanctions on Russia is just like planing your trap. Putin was prepared for all the drama we are seeing now that is why it doesn't bother him at all. The war has not ended and Russia is planning to launch more attack in Ukraine despite the sanctions from NATO countries and the European Union.
I do agree that there is a good chance that we could end up with Russialess type of energy in the future. I mean the tech is there, we just need to invest into both making it a better version of it, and also manufacture it a lot more.

Do we really think that we have to rely on any nation for the next 10+ years? Cars will be all electric, and I am sure that they will even be made out of material that will absorb sun as well, or even run further with the energy itself creates as well, so electric cars will be disregarding oil needs for a long time. We may get some from other nations for niche requirements but the fact that cars will be purely electric is more than enough.

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May 03, 2022, 10:41:39 PM
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US national debt
https://www.usdebtclock.org/
America built the most powerful economy in the world because it bought resources and the best specialists in the world with printed dollars.
For many years, Russia was a colony that sold its resources cheaply, and now these sanctions hit the European economy even more painfully.
People either don't know much about the USA or they forget history, they forget that Nazi Germany held some of the greatest scientific minds in the world and the USA take more than 1,600 great Nazi German scientists, engineers, and technicians, it's known as Operation Paperclip. It's sad but people in this field aren't appreciated as they deserve. In today's USA people like Corinna Kopf, Kim Kardashian and others from this league are more appreciated. The USA is losing power and dominance.

For many years, Russia was a colony that sold its resources cheaply, and now these sanctions hit the European economy even more painfully.
And what about Russia? Quality of life in Russia? Where do people live better, in France, Germany, Switzerland,  Netherland or in Russia? Majority of Russians have a low quality of life, there isn't good life outside of Moscow and Saint Peterburg, am I wrong? Only these two cities, especially Moscow, are good.


Russia Was Prepared to Withstand Sanctions. Why Wasn't Europe Prepared to Impose
Because Europeans don't want to leave their comfort zone, they prefer to stick with what's tried and works well and they are very slow to react and need very, very serious reasons to do some job. Probably, they weren't really expecting that.

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May 04, 2022, 01:34:17 AM
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And what about Russia? Quality of life in Russia? Where do people live better, in France, Germany, Switzerland,  Netherland or in Russia? Majority of Russians have a low quality of life, there isn't good life outside of Moscow and Saint Peterburg, am I wrong? Only these two cities, especially Moscow, are good.

So what? Russia always had a low quality of life when compared to Western Europe. The main reason is that despite being a major producer of the natural resources, Russia has never tried to become a manufacturer of finished goods. The corrupt politicians and oligarchs have benefitted from this trade and they have looted the national wealth over the past decades. And ironically, the same oligarchs are the hardest hit from the sanctions. Their houses and yachts are being seized. Ordinary Russians are not affected as much as these oligarchs.

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Russia Was Prepared to Withstand Sanctions. Why Wasn't Europe Prepared to Impose
Because Europeans don't want to leave their comfort zone, they prefer to stick with what's tried and works well and they are very slow to react and need very, very serious reasons to do some job. Probably, they weren't really expecting that.
The war is still going on and if the EU continues to impose new sanctions, I think Europe will continue to suffer more severe consequences than Russia. Gas prices continue to rise and it is the people of the EU who suffer, not the leaders.


On April 27, Russia completely closed the supply of natural gas to Poland and Bulgaria, according to sources Poland is still using Russian gas through Germany. Shows that EU countries are still stuck in sanctions against Russia and still do not have an alternative to supply from Russia.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/gazprom-says-poland-still-buying-123824234.html



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May 04, 2022, 09:23:23 AM
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And what about Russia? Quality of life in Russia? Where do people live better, in France, Germany, Switzerland,  Netherland or in Russia? Majority of Russians have a low quality of life, there isn't good life outside of Moscow and Saint Peterburg, am I wrong? Only these two cities, especially Moscow, are good.

So what? Russia always had a low quality of life when compared to Western Europe. The main reason is that despite being a major producer of the natural resources, Russia has never tried to become a manufacturer of finished goods. The corrupt politicians and oligarchs have benefitted from this trade and they have looted the national wealth over the past decades. And ironically, the same oligarchs are the hardest hit from the sanctions. Their houses and yachts are being seized. Ordinary Russians are not affected as much as these oligarchs.

You're not right. The reason for total poverty is in the domestic policy of the USSR/Russia. A citizen of the country has never been considered a value, it was and remains a resource. A resource that, for a minimum handout, is obliged to be afraid of the authorities (this is the main thing), has no rights and freedoms because it is evil, is obliged to work for a penny, is obliged to remain silent and "rejoice" at that very minimum handout. Since the time of the USSR, people have been hammered into the concept - "to live well is bad, the main thing is to love the party and the motherland, and give yourself completely in the fight against the whole world, because everyone is jealous of us and wants to capture us." Fortunately, you did not live in the USSR, but I was "lucky", believe me - you are unlikely to find a more vile and anti-human system!

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May 04, 2022, 09:27:58 AM
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Russia supply the world with most of their resources and many countries including europe depend on Russia for natural resources, so imposing sanctions on Russia is just like planing your trap. Putin was prepared for all the drama we are seeing now that is why it doesn't bother him at all. The war has not ended and Russia is planning to launch more attack in Ukraine despite the sanctions from NATO countries and the European Union.

I think, Putin is regretting for the bad decision he took to attacked Ukraine resources which other countries are not happy about the attacked that happened few months ago that put Ukraine economy into trouble. Russian citizens are really feeling the sanction NATO imposed to Russian that is making Russian government to lose billions every week that is making their companies to start experiencing losses from their distribution both domestic and international. Based on the intervention of other countries, I believe Russian will definitely embrace peace to withdraw the launch they are planning to launch to Ukraine resources.

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May 04, 2022, 07:01:56 PM
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And what about Russia? Quality of life in Russia? Where do people live better, in France, Germany, Switzerland,  Netherland or in Russia? Majority of Russians have a low quality of life, there isn't good life outside of Moscow and Saint Peterburg, am I wrong? Only these two cities, especially Moscow, are good.

So what? Russia always had a low quality of life when compared to Western Europe. The main reason is that despite being a major producer of the natural resources, Russia has never tried to become a manufacturer of finished goods. The corrupt politicians and oligarchs have benefitted from this trade and they have looted the national wealth over the past decades. And ironically, the same oligarchs are the hardest hit from the sanctions. Their houses and yachts are being seized. Ordinary Russians are not affected as much as these oligarchs.

I agree with you. Now only oligarchs are losing their property, ordinary people do not suffer losses. I think that the Russian government took the right measures and was able to protect the population of Russia. The situation turned out to be quite the opposite -the one who invented them suffers from sanctions. Why is this happening everyone understands.

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And what about Russia? Quality of life in Russia? Where do people live better, in France, Germany, Switzerland,  Netherland or in Russia? Majority of Russians have a low quality of life, there isn't good life outside of Moscow and Saint Peterburg, am I wrong? Only these two cities, especially Moscow, are good.

So what? Russia always had a low quality of life when compared to Western Europe. The main reason is that despite being a major producer of the natural resources, Russia has never tried to become a manufacturer of finished goods. The corrupt politicians and oligarchs have benefitted from this trade and they have looted the national wealth over the past decades. And ironically, the same oligarchs are the hardest hit from the sanctions. Their houses and yachts are being seized. Ordinary Russians are not affected as much as these oligarchs.

I agree with you. Now only oligarchs are losing their property, ordinary people do not suffer losses. I think that the Russian government took the right measures and was able to protect the population of Russia. The situation turned out to be quite the opposite -the one who invented them suffers from sanctions. Why is this happening everyone understands.
You can’t even imagine how grateful Russia is to the West for this huge service in the form of sanctions imposed on it. This is something that could not be done by the efforts of internal politics without causing a split in society and strong unrest. The West did it from the outside, mainly to its own detriment (at least if we are talking about Europe), and the people of Russia only rallied more strongly. The tremendous misunderstanding of the Russian mentality played a cruel joke on the West.

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May 04, 2022, 11:57:51 PM
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Russia supply the world with most of their resources and many countries including europe depend on Russia for natural resources, so imposing sanctions on Russia is just like planing your trap. Putin was prepared for all the drama we are seeing now that is why it doesn't bother him at all. The war has not ended and Russia is planning to launch more attack in Ukraine despite the sanctions from NATO countries and the European Union.

I think, Putin is regretting for the bad decision he took to attacked Ukraine resources which other countries are not happy about the attacked that happened few months ago that put Ukraine economy into trouble. Russian citizens are really feeling the sanction NATO imposed to Russian that is making Russian government to lose billions every week that is making their companies to start experiencing losses from their distribution both domestic and international. Based on the intervention of other countries, I believe Russian will definitely embrace peace to withdraw the launch they are planning to launch to Ukraine resources.

this is interesting to see what will happen for the next couple of months. both sides are heavily losing their weaponry as well as its people. maybe, is it time to put down their ego and talk peacefully. i am thinking that zelensky is just waitng for putin to change his mind and stop this war. he is amenable for whatever will be better for both countries.
so yeah, hopefully we will see some changes in the next couple of months.

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May 05, 2022, 02:26:02 AM
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Russia supply the world with most of their resources and many countries including europe depend on Russia for natural resources, so imposing sanctions on Russia is just like planing your trap. Putin was prepared for all the drama we are seeing now that is why it doesn't bother him at all. The war has not ended and Russia is planning to launch more attack in Ukraine despite the sanctions from NATO countries and the European Union.

I think, Putin is regretting for the bad decision he took to attacked Ukraine resources which other countries are not happy about the attacked that happened few months ago that put Ukraine economy into trouble. Russian citizens are really feeling the sanction NATO imposed to Russian that is making Russian government to lose billions every week that is making their companies to start experiencing losses from their distribution both domestic and international. Based on the intervention of other countries, I believe Russian will definitely embrace peace to withdraw the launch they are planning to launch to Ukraine resources.

this is interesting to see what will happen for the next couple of months. both sides are heavily losing their weaponry as well as its people. maybe, is it time to put down their ego and talk peacefully. i am thinking that zelensky is just waitng for putin to change his mind and stop this war. he is amenable for whatever will be better for both countries.
so yeah, hopefully we will see some changes in the next couple of months.

Russians are used to isolation and poverty so I'm not sure how we could see them feeling the sanctions since by the looks of it their economy is rising. Of course it could just be because they are using the gas and oil to increase ruble demand but in the end, the resources of Ukraine will  be useful  for Putin to support them.

I don't see them going to have a talk anymore unless US allows Ukraine to make negotiation. It's not up to Zelensky.  The peace talks depends to US if they still send weapons to Ukraine, that means war will not end.


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