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January 28, 2022, 12:24:47 AM
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Some of the wise traders don't wait for the market ATH. Just when they learned that the price is close to RSI overbought, they already dump and wait for months for the price to its bottom. But the trick there is they also have no idea where the bottom could be so they just buy at which price they are comfortable in dipping thier toes to a rocky river.

It's not so wise but it's still profitable for them. Because what is important is that they still have the capital to once again play in the market.

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January 28, 2022, 12:50:41 AM
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Some of the wise traders don't wait for the market ATH. Just when they learned that the price is close to RSI overbought, they already dump and wait for months for the price to its bottom. But the trick there is they also have no idea where the bottom could be so they just buy at which price they are comfortable in dipping thier toes to a rocky river.

It's not so wise but it's still profitable for them. Because what is important is that they still have the capital to once again play in the market.

Yea rather than waiting it's better to start to take this opportunity because we don't know where is the bottom at. While we watch the market movement it's better to gather your capital to increase your holding bit by bit and wait for another year and another ATH. I believe cryptocurrencies will touch it's new ATH and it's only a matter of time.

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January 28, 2022, 12:51:54 AM
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Becoming wiser will be needed for every trader and investor and always adapt to the market's change so you can use it for yourself and you do not have to panic wherever the market moves. While taking a rest and giving it a try the next day also helps you release stress from the market and this can refresh your mind so you can analyze better on the market. You can follow the trend, but if you do not know when to get out of the market, you can screw yourself and in the end, you will lose your money. You should take profit while you can and not wait for the other high price as that can not always happen. You should know when to decide and make a profit.

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January 28, 2022, 06:57:17 AM
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Yea, I have to agree that we usually predict where we want to see the price. But it doesn't happen most of the time and regrets it eventually.
That is true that most traders predict and the market go the other way which causes liquidation especially for future traders, I mean traders that are engaging themselves in future trading. But what js causing most liquidation is greed and inexperience, some traders will go for 100x leverage or more which is highly risky, I remember when I went for 10x it is also very risky. 5x is even very risky in volatile market. If the market is also against someone's direction, 3x can be very risky during extreme volatile market. The leverage someone is using is many times the cause of liquidation but trends can really help but some traders are day traders and trends can not work for them but only in few times during the hype.

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January 28, 2022, 07:04:08 AM
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This is ideal and that is what most traders expect. But somehow this is difficult to control consciously. When the market movement from a weak mentality leads us into the market game, it is as if we are indoctrinated to follow it. But as you said, trading is in our control.

Therefore we need really serious training because in trading we have to adjust to the trading targets that we have set.

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January 28, 2022, 07:36:38 AM
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All you need to be is wiser than others not about the market, if people are selling Bitcoin then wait for the right price then start accumulating then wait until everyone realize the prices starts to rebound they will buy again so you should wait until the near peak then sell it that's the trading is profitable or you can call it as long term trading.

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January 28, 2022, 07:36:47 AM
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This is ideal and that is what most traders expect. But somehow this is difficult to control consciously. When the market movement from a weak mentality leads us into the market game, it is as if we are indoctrinated to follow it. But as you said, trading is in our control.

Therefore we need really serious training because in trading we have to adjust to the trading targets that we have set.

 You have to realize that there is nothing that you could do which would "trick" market to do something else. Even when you are a whale, only nations can do it and maybe super famous people like Elon. Even that is not easy, Warren Buffett tried to say bitcoin is bad for a decade now and people still ignored, but somehow cared about what Elon said. So all in all not many people can control the market, so all we have to do is find a strategy, find a way that would work for us, and then just keep doing that no matter what the weak mentality people say. Just forget about rest of the world and keep on doing your own way, if it profits you then it profits you.

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January 28, 2022, 08:06:52 AM
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This is ideal and that is what most traders expect. But somehow this is difficult to control consciously. When the market movement from a weak mentality leads us into the market game, it is as if we are indoctrinated to follow it. But as you said, trading is in our control.

Therefore we need really serious training because in trading we have to adjust to the trading targets that we have set.

 You have to realize that there is nothing that you could do which would "trick" market to do something else. Even when you are a whale, only nations can do it and maybe super famous people like Elon. Even that is not easy, Warren Buffett tried to say bitcoin is bad for a decade now and people still ignored, but somehow cared about what Elon said. So all in all not many people can control the market, so all we have to do is find a strategy, find a way that would work for us, and then just keep doing that no matter what the weak mentality people say. Just forget about rest of the world and keep on doing your own way, if it profits you then it profits you.
We can be the best traders we want to be but that does not mean that we are capable to control and win over the market. Having this unpredictable and very volatile market can be our best enemy, but if we just learn to ride with it and never be affected with greed, we can always win our trades but not with the market. As there was a saying that if you fail to plan, you plan to fail. Successful traders have always their plan written on the stones. You can read it more here..https://www.investopedia.com/articles/trading/04/042104.asp
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January 28, 2022, 08:58:10 AM
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This is one of the best methods I am doing when doing trading. I am with the trend or avoid countering the trend.
Catching some dumps/pumps for me especially when using leverage is like catching a falling knives, so for me that kind of method is somehow not effective but there are some who making profits with this especially when they are on the right time.

The people making profit with leverage trading are experienced traders, really it is difficult to do that. Newbies don't need such way of trading because the risk is so high and it can lead to big loss and starting from beginning all the time is a set back. Instead using a 1:1 or 1:2 leverage is better than 1: 100
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January 28, 2022, 11:31:51 AM
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The cryptocurrency market today is very far from a real full-fledged market. Manipulation and insider trading. Frenzied movements due to the posts of famous people. Most of people's capital is fictitious and will burst like a soap bubble.
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January 28, 2022, 12:16:06 PM
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The term "wiser" is not the right to use, because traders are never gonna outsmart the market, why? because it is unpredictable. The technical analysis, the indicators are just there to help you to add the chances of making profits in every trade, not to become smarter than the market. Never go against the trend, because you'll lose money, ride the flow, so that you could make a lot of profits as much as possible.
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January 28, 2022, 12:37:30 PM
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When we are seeing the market most of people think that it will surpass an all-time high and they make holding their assets still it depends what kind of investor or trader you are. If you are an active investor why not make an investment when the market signal comes it's all about the technical analysis and trading indicators. Not all pump is go to the moon, not all dump will going to the dip always manage the risk and wait for the right time to buy your assets.

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When we are seeing the market most of people think that it will surpass an all-time high and they make holding their assets still it depends what kind of investor or trader you are. If you are an active investor why not make an investment when the market signal comes it's all about the technical analysis and trading indicators. Not all pump is go to the moon, not all dump will going to the dip always manage the risk and wait for the right time to buy your assets.
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January 28, 2022, 12:56:43 PM
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First, learn with your past mistakes.

If you've been trading for a few months or longer, you already have enough experience and knowledge that you can use to take advantage of those mistakes you did in the past.

Avoid being greedy and you should always target what's achievable. What's wrong with the new traders today, they're idealists but they're not realistic.
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First, learn with your past mistakes.

If you've been trading for a few months or longer, you already have enough experience and knowledge that you can use to take advantage of those mistakes you did in the past.

Avoid being greedy and you should always target what's achievable. What's wrong with the new traders today, they're idealists but they're not realistic.
And they stick to what they think will work, but not taking it seriously. The reason why traders mostly fail is they never exert extra efforts so they can win their trades, because they believe that trading could make them instantly rich.

If you think you have potentials to make a good trade, enhance it. But don't be greedy and even think that you are good enough to overtake the market, because you will never win from the market.

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January 28, 2022, 05:24:24 PM
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The cryptocurrency market today is very far from a real full-fledged market. Manipulation and insider trading. Frenzied movements due to the posts of famous people. Most of people's capital is fictitious and will burst like a soap bubble.
this is the sad truth. It is not natural anymore, this makes it hard to predict things if where they will go. We will buy low because we think the bottom has been hit but eventually the price gets dump more evenly. It's okay for the people that have a lot of patience but for to some, they can only panic and sell at a loss.

Same when the market is rising, we think it will continue to go up for one last time but nah, it will only dump hard and we will start on the beginning again. If there is one thing that we can do now to help then that is by ignoring the noise or the hype that we hear on social media and news, because we never knew that its another attempt gain to manipulate this market.

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This is the market, the rise cannot be permanent and the decline cannot be permanent, there is always after every rise a fall and vice versa, so even if the market is bearish in general, there must be some rebounds that can be used to improve the trading situation, I generally use this strategy as I sell a small portion of my assets on the rise and wait for it to fall again to increase the quantity so that the quantity can be increased continuously and wait for the bullish market again.

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January 28, 2022, 08:46:10 PM
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First, learn with your past mistakes.

If you've been trading for a few months or longer, you already have enough experience and knowledge that you can use to take advantage of those mistakes you did in the past.

Avoid being greedy and you should always target what's achievable. What's wrong with the new traders today, they're idealists but they're not realistic.
I think the best way so we can avoid being greedy is to have satisfaction in the profits we have. Set aside the get rich quick mentality. We can be rich in time by trading but we can do it more slowly, and not to keep chasing the market. Overtrading will only make you a loser in the end because you end up gambling even your hard earned money.

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In the cryptocurrency and blockchain ecosystem, the term "Airdrop" refers to the distribution of diqital assets to the public, either by virtue of holding a certain other token or simply by virtue of being an active wallet address on a particular blockchain.
Next time you should really be making some on-topic replies rather than posting up random words which doesnt really connect out on whats been discussed so that you wouldnt really be having any problems later on.

Its normal for human being on having that kind of impression in mind which they do really believe that it would be simple and could really be handled out well without any problems which is
actually true in first impressions on which you could really see from other doings which looks easy but when you are on the actual situation then you would realized things
on how it works and how to deal with it but it wouldnt really be that simple.

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January 28, 2022, 09:41:25 PM
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I believe that every trader has known now that to wise, in making decision regarding their next move under such situations, is the best thing to do, but not necessarily wiser than the market. I think that going along with the trends, buying more coin during bull season, and holding are some of the wise things being considered while they wait for the market to move. It is done to ride along the market movements and not to outsmart the market itself. I think that everyone’s here just trying to make out of their best possible ones, based on experiences and history, to make profit given the volatile circumstances.
That is the nature of trading. We can be more profitable sometimes, and make losses other times. But never to compete with the market because we can never win from it. Just be wise enough and trade within your limits. After all, we do have our smart moves in trading so that we can ride with the market, and not to compete with it.



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