Why the reduced publicity?

[Bitcoinbride]

 I find this forum to be an interesting place to gather knowledge on bitcoin & other related/general topics. I can see that the forum has been existing for a long time and I wonder why I never heard about it up until recently. There are definitely many others who have never heard about this forum. Is it in the agenda of the forum not to gather too many users hence the reduced publicity?

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[Pokapoka124]

You may be onto something here. No everybody that knows bitcoin knows bitcointalk forum. A large percent of the people who know bitcointalk are the OGs, newbies visit more of clubhouse, crypto Twitter. That’s one reason I think OGs suspects “newbies” to be old users coming back again to create alts. If you read bitcoin history bitcointalk.org is always referenced. Bitcointalk is rich with bitcoin history. Unfortunately people don’t care much about history these days.

[hatshepsut93]

Is it in the agenda of the forum not to gather too many users hence the reduced publicity?

No, this isn't some hidden deepweb community, obviously. This forum has millions of registered users. It's just that forums are something that is viewed as very old-fashioned these days, today other forms of communication, like social media groups, chat channels, twitter threads and so on.

[jackg]

Bitcointalk has been sliding down search engines for a few years too too when searching for crypto related subjects. I'm not too sure why this is, maybe some sites started favouring news articles or more modern social media and reduced where this forum stood. Perhaps the other media was considered more reliable, moderated or something too (eg Wikipedia having several editors for most pages or warnings when there are only a few).

[JeromeTash]

Forums are mostly a thing of the past as more people started adopting social media like Reddit and twitter. To make matter worse, the forum is still using the old SMF software, which looks boring and unattractive to new forum users. Features like notifications and mentions are missing, making constructive discussion and engagement hard.
Even when you try searching something crypto related, most of the topic that show up on top are from sites like Reddit despite Bitcointalk being the oldest crypto forum.

[Twinkledoe]

Is it in the agenda of the forum not to gather too many users hence the reduced publicity?

No, this isn't some hidden deepweb community, obviously. This forum has millions of registered users. It's just that forums are something that is viewed as very old-fashioned these days, today other forms of communication, like social media groups, chat channels, twitter threads and so on.

The forum may be old-fashioned on its own but let us appreciate that there are so many valuable information waiting to be uncovered by users. And this forum can exist even without outside promotions as this can survive already with generous donations from various users. There are so many social media channels nowadays, but the information that you can get from here for me is priceless.

[5W-KILO]

I knew about BTC in 2011, at that time a close relative decide to give me 1 BTC for free but I never believed in the technology so I turned him down, I knew about bitcointalk in 2017 can you see the difference? Its possible not to know about this forum even when you know what BTC is until you go deep in doing research

[boyptc]

No.

There's no need to stress that out. It's on the internet and anyone who searches or looking for the forum will eventually find it out. Many of the members here have found it without even someone introducing it to them.

The members are increasing despite many forums and groups have already existed that are also bitcoin related.

[sheenshane]

Is it in the agenda of the forum not to gather too many users hence the reduced publicity?

You're wrong, even on Youtube, there's a TheBitcoinTalkShow that can everyone watch regarding the forum.  What is the purpose of hiding?

Besides, we have IMO more than 3 million users here but I don't know how many of them are active you can check all stats in all user's profiles you can find them here.   https://bpip.org/
Do you think the hidden agenda is not to gather more users on this?

[Upgrade00]

I wonder why I never heard about it up until recently. There are definitely many others who have never heard about this forum. Is it in the agenda of the forum not to gather too many users hence the reduced publicity?

Bitcointalk does not engage in publicity at all. As far as I know, there is just one official Twitter account and besides that, the forum is not represented on other social platforms. The reason for this could be so the forum is as similar to Bitcoin as possible. Bitcoin does not engage in publicity but rather allows users find it out and do their own research.

The forum is definitely not readily reachable to a average individual and more publicity would surely be helpful to get more users on here.

[PX-Z]

I only guess is because of google's changing algorithm of showing in the search engine page and the forum is out of date for that matter. What I know google show topics in top if it met certain conditions like mobile friendliness, their schema is applied, fast loading page and etc.

There's no agenda hidden or what, you just need to know how search engine woks.

[KingsDen]

Forums are mostly a thing of the past as more people started adopting social media like Reddit and twitter. To make matter worse, the forum is still using the old SMF software, which looks boring and unattractive to new forum users. Features like notifications and mentions are missing, making constructive discussion and engagement hard.

Op is saying why people are not aware of the forum and not why the forum is losing its database. It is only when someone is aware of the forum and have used it that he will complain that it's obsolete.
Majority of the influx recorded here are during bitcoin bull runs. At the time, people will on their own be sourcing for bitcoin related information.
However, SEO of bitcointalk is low. If you do not make a search with bitcointalk related terms, you will not find this place.
I personally joined by recommendation and I believe it's the fate of many.
The forum I think has started some kind of publicity as seen in BtcTalkShow on YouTube.

[pooya87]

It depends on what you search for.
Searching for basic price related topics or nonsense such as tokens would always redirect you to news sites and other places where they are advertising token scams. But usually bitcointalk is among top search results in first page when you search for anything else (like technical questions about bitcoin).

On top of that if you search "bitcoin forum" in google, literary the first result is this forum!

[GeorgeJohn]

I find this forum to be an interesting place to gather knowledge on bitcoin & other related/general topics.

Actually is another place to acquire another kind of knowledge especially cryptocurrencies and specifically Bitcoin, anyone who is opportune to adventure he or herself here is at advantages to comprehend cryptocurrency, forum is like institution were knowledge is been dispense but it's only for those who are willing to learn will understand it's nature, you can also impact your knowledge or share knowledge with people through your research analysis of cryptocurrency.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

Is it in the agenda of the forum not to gather too many users hence the reduced publicity?

To my best of knowledge, the forum hasn't advertised itself before and that means all users that are here came because they wanted to and not because they got tricked to. There's a big difference between quality and quantity, what the forum has is quality and those that want that are those the forum are interested in. We're not looking for crowd that'll turn the forum into something else. In the past we have had situation when the forum was over taken by spam and it was an awful situation. We won't want to experience that again as the quality of conversation on the forum will reduced.

Again this is a forum and not a social media kind of platforms, majority on the internet this days don't go after information they go after entertainment through videos and that's not what the forum was created for so obviously, not many will be interested in the forum. Vintage are old but gold and that's what the forum is.

[Jawhead999]

If there's an agenda to make this forum is private and it can be reached if you met several requirement (using Tor or deepweb) obviously you wouldn't find this forum now. You doesn't aware of this forum since you don't search about Bitcoin forum and many top articles less advertise this forum (they only want if you paid them). I don't know how old are you, but back on 2017 where Bitcoin and all ICOs is bullish... so many people already know Bitcoin. Probably you're not really interested with Bitcoin on that years.

[NeuroticFish]

Is it in the agenda of the forum not to gather too many users hence the reduced publicity?

Did you need a secret link or something like that to get here? I don't think so. Nothing secret, no such agenda.
I think that in your case it may have been the timing: for quite a while google search downgraded that ranking of this forum, hence you didn't find it so easy (but it did still come in search results).

But excepting that odd period of time, if one was searching for bitcoin related things, this forum did (and does) come in the search results.
With the huge quantity of useful information here, I don't think that specific advertising is necessary. As I said, if one is interested in bitcoin, he will find this forum.

[isaac_clarke22]

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This kind of reminded me as a gamer back in the days not knowing that such gaming forums like GBATemp forum exists. It's not just happening to this forum. It can happen to any forums that I could also have not been aware of.
And yes, it's not like those social media platforms that gets into the mainstream in no time. When it comes to forums these days, people might have been thinking of something like Reddit or 4Chan.

[TinaK]

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This kind of reminded me as a gamer back in the days not knowing that such gaming forums like GBATemp forum exists. It's not just happening to this forum. It can happen to any forums that I could also have not been aware of.
And yes, it's not like those social media platforms that gets into the mainstream in no time. When it comes to forums these days, people might have been thinking of something like Reddit or 4Chan.

Because people are seeking information and found this forum, not the forum itself seeking attention to the people I think there's no hidden agenda for that. The forum doesn't have ads so that people will lead to the forum, it's just people searching on it.
But as I can see is different these days, those who came up here asking about how to rank up, how to earn money or how to obtain merits to rank up. Nobody wants to learn and asking what is blockchain and bitcoin or are they have correlation to each other.

In short, the forum is open to all.

[DdmrDdmr]

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I always fall back on this matter by exemplifying the Spanish local board. With around 580 million people that speak Spanish world wide (483M native), and if we consider that crypto is picking up traction in latam countries, being El Salvador a core exponent, the Spanish local board barely sees any new meaningful accounts. Although some will undoubtedly prefer to just pave the board sections in English due to them being more dynamic and diverse in content, the gap between language potential and reality here is extremely unfitting. I mean, not even a single person has landed here from El Salvador …

Now there is likely a cocktail of mixed ingredients behind this: SEO factors, cultural habits that shift people over to more dynamic and less prosaic means of communication, mobile friendliness, visuals, competitors, and so forth. Without being certain, I’d still say that lack of visibility is the core factor that is involved here. You need people to get here first, and then people will decide how long they’ll stay here, and of those other factors play against a certain loyalty to the platform.

[LTU_btc]

Reduced publicity? I think you're wrong about it. IMO, forum is popular enough and it have big user database.
Why you and many others don't know about Bitcointalk. Because forum isn't that kind of website which would be actively promoted on ad banners, blogs, Youtube and etc. But if you search for information, reviews or something similar it's likely that you will discover Bitcointalk.
And nowadays forums is a bit outdated thing, especially for younger people. They prefer to interact on social media instead of forums. For some people forums have turned into mIRC kind of thing.

[Taskford]

I find this forum to be an interesting place to gather knowledge on bitcoin & other related/general topics. I can see that the forum has been existing for a long time and I wonder why I never heard about it up until recently. There are definitely many others who have never heard about this forum. Is it in the agenda of the forum not to gather too many users hence the reduced publicity?

Actually this forum is not been advertised everywhere that's why you cannot see this place until you research bitcoin since for sure if you search that keyword this forum will also float up on the word given that's why many people goes here and browse some information about bitcoin and other crypto. Also there's no agenda towards anything since actually any publicity can help this forum also with bitcoin.

[Mpamaegbu]

To my best of knowledge, the forum hasn't advertised itself before and that means all users that are here came because they wanted to and not because they got tricked to.

Yes, you're right because I got to this forum in my quest for knowledge. Curiosity made me stumble unto this place. In my case, I would say it was luck that brought me here as no one introduced it to me. I clicked links and surprisingly found this forum which of course I didn't have an iota of idea it existed. Another thing, good products don't advertise themselves. Maybe that notion is what this forum relies on and for that doesn't see the need for advertising it. However, I believe there should be skeletal and subtle advertisement for this forum from time to time. The more the merrier kind of it, you know. This forum still needs more people. I think there's something like that going on in YouTube for this forum.

[Lucius]

I can see that the forum has been existing for a long time and I wonder why I never heard about it up until recently.

My opinion is that you are not interested in Bitcoin for too long, because anyone who is genuinely interested in something like Bitcoin can very easily find this forum through search engines or through various links in which Satoshi Nakamoto as the inventor of Bitcoin is linked to this forum. The fact that may provide at least part of the answer to your question is that people equate Bitcoin with quick earnings, and for that, they need a crypto exchange, not a forum.

In my philosophy, if you want to find the source of a river then you need to go upstream and not downstream as some do today. Therefore, for anyone who wants to find a unique source of information and Bitcoin history is not at all problematic to find this forum - I found it after a week of serious interest in Bitcoin.

[lovesmayfamilis]

In my opinion, people come to the forum who can use the Internet search well. More precisely, these people are not new to the network. Today, the Internet is divided into many interests. But most use it as entertainment. Therefore, those who are interested in any topic will check all the links that the search engine provides to them. If someone does not stumble upon a forum from the first three or four links, this does not mean that the forum is difficult to find. Cryptocurrency enthusiasts are bound to stumble upon this forum, as we are always interested in getting more information and do not stop at resources.
But others are interested in material gain. Such people get on the forum on advice.
BUT again, to those who are looking for, the forum always goes forward. Otherwise, how would everyone else get here?

[Coyster]

I find this forum to be an interesting place to gather knowledge on bitcoin & other related/general topics. I can see that the forum has been existing for a long time and I wonder why I never heard about it up until recently. There are definitely many others who have never heard about this forum. Is it in the agenda of the forum not to gather too many users hence the reduced publicity?

I'm pretty sure many users here were introduced to the forum by someone else (could that be the major means for influx of users?) while having a discussion with such persons about Bitcoin, so one can possibly say Bitcoin discussions or the desire to know more/garner knowledge about Bitcoin would one way or another lead one to the forum.

Having said that, you're correct when you refer to the forum as being interesting, of course it is cause it 'houses' loads of Bitcoin information as it's a great 'repertoire' of crypto knowledge, the forum has no problem with how many users join, but what you must know is that everyone can't come in at the same time.

[isaac_clarke22]

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I guess the same could be said when I was still finding ways on how to get first Bitcoin back in 2017. I started reading around this forum, just as a Guest user in the middle of that year while also being recommended by someone to ask here as there weren't that much tutorials on how to buy Bitcoin here in my country as it wasn't that mainstream here just yet. I really didn't expect that there would be local boards in here in the first place.

[Marvelman]

I knew about BTC in 2011, at that time a close relative decide to give me 1 BTC for free but I never believed in the technology so I turned him down, I knew about bitcointalk in 2017 can you see the difference? Its possible not to know about this forum even when you know what BTC is until you go deep in doing research

No. There is no need to do extensive research to find this forum. Here is a little experiment we can do. If you click on one of these links, can you let us know what you get as your first search result?

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bitcoin+forum
https://www.google.com/search?q=bitcoin+forum
https://www.bing.com/search?q=bitcoin+forum
https://yandex.com/search/?text=bitcoin+forum

[Bitcoinbride]

Why you and many others don't know about Bitcointalk. Because forum isn't that kind of website which would be actively promoted on ad banners, blogs, Youtube and etc. But if you search for information, reviews or something similar it's likely that you will discover Bitcointalk.
And nowadays forums is a bit outdated thing, especially for younger people. They prefer to interact on social media instead of forums. For some people forums have turned into mIRC kind of thing.

So in summary of this, you are saying that with more social media sites, younger people are no longer interested in learning through forums? How about those Interested in learning but don't know where to go and have no one to point them in the right direction? I don't mean to over flog the issue.

[LTU_btc]

So in summary of this, you are saying that with more social media sites, younger people are no longer interested in learning through forums? How about those Interested in learning but don't know where to go and have no one to point them in the right direction? I don't mean to over flog the issue.

In general yes. There is one common thing among most of forums, not just Bitcointalk - they struggle to attract new members, mainly old members keep forums active. Offcourse, you can"t feel it so much on huge forums like Bitcointalk and also this forum is exception from rule because of sig. campaigns and bounties. But on smallers forums it feels.
For younger people forums is thing from past. I think that they would prefer to learn using other platforms, for example, watching Youtube videos or even TikTok.
These who are looking for information, eventually they will find Bitcointalk. Then it's only question whether they will come here and stay or they will move on to other platform.

[Taskford]

Why you and many others don't know about Bitcointalk. Because forum isn't that kind of website which would be actively promoted on ad banners, blogs, Youtube and etc. But if you search for information, reviews or something similar it's likely that you will discover Bitcointalk.
And nowadays forums is a bit outdated thing, especially for younger people. They prefer to interact on social media instead of forums. For some people forums have turned into mIRC kind of thing.

So in summary of this, you are saying that with more social media sites, younger people are no longer interested in learning through forums? How about those Interested in learning but don't know where to go and have no one to point them in the right direction? I don't mean to over flog the issue.

We can actually feel the number of active users are declining but it doesn't affect much the popularity of this forum since still this is the most famous one among than all. But if we talk about source of learnings we can say that know informations are placed everywhere and mostly young guys around are mostly in social medias right now since they have direct access on that channels.

Also for sure that guys who don't know about where to start will search those information on google and rest is history after that since he provably got those links where he want to learn some informations about bitcoin.

[Bttzed03]

~ A large percent of the people who know bitcointalk are the OGs, newbies visit more of clubhouse, crypto Twitter.

Many of the OGs probably left the forum a long time ago and I know some of them have huge followings on twitter now. When I was still active in that platform, I only saw 1 post from one of them mentioning bitcointalk and it wasn't even positive. The message was phrased like I made all these profits without visiting bitcointalk.

[lovesmayfamilis]

No. There is no need to do extensive research to find this forum. Here is a little experiment we can do. If you click on one of these links, can you let us know what you get as your first search result?

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bitcoin+forum
https://www.google.com/search?q=bitcoin+forum
https://www.bing.com/search?q=bitcoin+forum
https://yandex.com/search/?text=bitcoin+forum

Exactly. You just confirmed my words. Everyone who knows how to use the search correctly, the forum, is issued in the first positions. But the problem is that today, social networks have flooded all the interests of young people. Communication in two or three phrases will not give a normal understanding of cryptocurrencies. And until someone who asks questions like "what is bitcoin" or "how to earn bitcoin" does not change search queries, he will stumble upon Twitter, or group telegrams, in which there is a lot of noise, but there is no specific information. The problem is not the forum, the problem is the people.

[Agbe]

You may be onto something here. No everybody that knows bitcoin knows bitcointalk forum. A large percent of the people who know bitcointalk are the OGs, newbies visit more of clubhouse, crypto Twitter. That’s one reason I think OGs suspects “newbies” to be old users coming back again to create alts. If you read bitcoin history bitcointalk.org is always referenced. Bitcointalk is rich with bitcoin history. Unfortunately people don’t care much about history these days.

Although I was not conversant with bitcoin, but I don't believe that everyone who knows Bitcoin knows Bitcointalk. I new small about bitcoin after my first experience yet I do not know Bitcointalk, it was a face book friend of my friend posted it on his wall that I saw the link and click on the link and registered, even the registration was a thug of war.I asked questions and tried my best to successfully registered. Though, I will not dispute the fact that a large number of people know about Bitcointalk but I am still supporting the statement of the OP that there are lot of people out there that do not know this forum. Personally, in neighborhood, if I asked most of the people that living the same street, close, road and compound with me, they would say, they don't know. The awareness campaign and the publicity isow.

[Oceat]

My thoughts would be maybe they already knew this forum yet they find it hard to use that's why they switched to different platforms such as reddit and others. It may be good for them to find the other forum appealing though they just have to explore this forum first in order to get used to where is the right board if they want to read something.

Each board has different topic and this forum is specifically for crypto or Bitcoin users only. And not to mention the crypto gambling part and altcoins section which I found very full of topic.

[worle1bm]

If you are searching for bitcoin related forums then it would on number one always or on the first page depending on your search preference and the area.There are many who just got familiar with this beautiful forum in recent months or days but whenever you discover it the best for you.This is community oriented discussion forum which don't need publicity in my opinion and one interested in it can find it.

[GeorgeJohn]

Really the community of bitcointalk, is specifically meant for discussion of bitcoin and it's relatives that are the supportive, and will say basically that some people who find their self here not eighteen percent of them knows about bitcoin but due they merge here and they began to know about bitcoin and technically and technological impact, so no time you locate the community is late, what you should be interested of, is to know the rudiments of Bitcoin and comprehend it in the brain

[KingsDen]

And until someone who asks questions like "what is bitcoin" or "how to earn bitcoin" does not change search queries, he will stumble upon Twitter, or group telegrams, in which there is a lot of noise, but there is no specific information. The problem is not the forum, the problem is the people.

I understand that the search queries determine the search results. When I made some searches about Bitcoin back then, I didn't find this forum. This is because, hardly will one search with these keywords "Bitcoin forum". Nobody wants to join a forum, what they want is to learn about bitcoin and bitcoin investment and ask questions about bitcoin.

Then if the technical board would be optimized in google search, there will be more influx in the technical board because of random questions people ask.

[Bhig Daddy]

You could have a point here. Nobody who understands bitcoin is unaware of the Bitcointalk forum. The majority of those familiar with bitcointalk are the OGs, whereas newcomers frequent crypto Twitter and clubhouse more frequently. This is one of the reasons I believe OGs suspect "newbies" are actually former users returning to create alts. When researching the history of bitcoin, bitcointalk.org is frequently mentioned. The history of bitcoin is extensive on Bitcointalk. Unfortunately, not many people today are interested in history.