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Question: Do you think this competition is fair? Bitcointalk Community Awards 2021
Yes, competition is fair - 14 (46.7%)
No, competition is not fair - 16 (53.3%)
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February 09, 2022, 08:24:28 AM
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Do you think this competition is fair?
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Honestly looking on these waking-up noname users voting for its high-ranked alts I doubt in fairness of this contest

This competition takes place with numerous violations of common sense

Concerned people actively donates the merits for those who vote in their favor
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February 09, 2022, 08:52:00 AM
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I'd say it's almost fair even though not 100%, you can't hope such competition will 100% fair since no one is wrong and no one is right. It's depends on their perspective to determine which user is deserve with the nomination. Sometime people giving away merit because they want to thank those voters for voting him and to be honest it's not really a big problem as they're only give 1-2 merits. You may want to check this thread 10th anniversary art contest

You must have 50 merit or be a full member or higher to vote ➥ Note.

With this rules at least we can deny newbie or sock puppet account in order to vote his main account. If you think this rules isn't strict enough and the voters aren't fair, what's your suggestion to solve this? If you make the rules only 1000+ merit earned can vote, many users will think it's discrimination and less decentralized.

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February 09, 2022, 09:03:30 AM
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If you think this rules isn't strict enough and the voters aren't fair, what's your suggestion to solve this?
Moving to Ivory Tower
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February 09, 2022, 09:03:53 AM
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As I wrote at the previous contest:
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the problem with Voting like this: it's more of a Recognition award than an award for actual accomplishments.

Concerned people actively donates the merits for those who vote in their favor
That's not very Switzerland to do, but it's not against the rules either.

I'd say it's almost fair even though not 100%, you can't hope such competition will 100% fair since no one is wrong and no one is right.
Exactly this Smiley An Award like this can't be completely fair, especially when prizes are $650 per winner.
But campaigning for yourself is allowed:
Any user has the right to campaign for or against other candidates in a separate thread specially created for this.

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Tell me please who those noname users generously receiving merits? Hey, if you are real users, at least confirm that you are not alt of your merit-givers

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February 09, 2022, 09:08:24 AM
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Tell me please who those noname users generously receiving merits?
I think it's partially caused by notification bots: posting a list of usernames means some of them get notified. If they get notified, they see the post. If they see the post, it increases the chance of getting Merited.
As a Merit source, 1 sMerit more or less is a drop in a bucket.

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February 09, 2022, 09:32:07 AM
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If you think this rules isn't strict enough and the voters aren't fair, what's your suggestion to solve this?
Moving to Ivory Tower
It only dismiss low rank member (below full member) but you can't stop people giving away merit and full member+ noname users to vote (not all users you posted are noname users, this because they're rarely active in section where you active at)

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February 09, 2022, 09:33:11 AM
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Why are these merit-sourcers squandering merits for bribing loyal voters, and not for useful posts for novice newbies on the forum who need real support?

This is not fair. Simple folk won't understand your sneaky games



Theymos please, disable merits for this contest, for the justice. Or move it to Ivory Tower
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it's quite scary when my name is called there, my concern is you are too sensitive to see people happy, is it because you don't have any smerit?
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it's quite scary when my name is called there, my concern is you are too sensitive to see people happy, is it because you don't have any smerit?
Are you scared? Right, farmers like you should be scared of me

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Do you think this competition is fair?
With what I observed, it is going on good.

Tell me please who those noname users generously receiving merits?
I think it's partially caused by notification bots: posting a list of usernames means some of them get notified. If they get notified, they see the post. If they see the post, it increases the chance of getting Merited.
As a Merit source, 1 sMerit more or less is a drop in a bucket.
Yes, people voted for are getting notified. But Ratimov is giving everyone merit which is not a bad idea.

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February 09, 2022, 10:01:53 AM
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But Ratimov is giving everyone merit which is not a bad idea.
You know, other conscientious participants for whom they voted do not allow themselves this because they do not want foul play by merit bribing
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February 09, 2022, 10:08:19 AM
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Do you think this competition is fair?
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Yeah, I would say it's pretty fair, there will always be someone who will try to take the  advantage, no matter the rules you set.


Honestly looking on these waking-up noname users voting for its high-ranked alts I doubt in fairness of this contest
That's why @icopress reserved the right to exclude anyone's vote, at his own discretion. So no, I am not concerned about the fairness as I do trust @icopress will do the right thing.  


Why are these merit-sourcers squandering merits for bribing loyal voters, and not for useful posts for novice newbies on the forum who need real support?
I do agree that its a shitty way to spend your merit, but I don't think they are bribing, it is more of a "thank you".


Moving to Ivory Tower
How exactly would that solve anything?


With that being said, you could have shared your opinion on this in threadcreated specifically for this purpose, instead opening another one.


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With that being said, you could have shared your opinion on this in threadcreated specifically for this purpose, instead opening another one.
Because there is no poll showing the true essence of things

Users are intimidated by your DT gang and are afraid to say something to your face

In the poll people will show you that you are in minority
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it's quite scary when my name is called there, my concern is you are too sensitive to see people happy, is it because you don't have any smerit?
Are you scared? Right, farmers like you should be scared of me

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really cool, I've been rewarded for what I did, I was anticipating going to do a bounty hunt in the same place because the rules are not prohibited multi account but banned from following multiple accounts, but strangely I got spam(neutral) trust.  because the existing rules in anticipation of following multiple accounts.
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really cool, I've been rewarded for what I did, I was anticipating going to do a bounty hunt in the same place because the rules are not prohibited multi account but banned from following multiple accounts, but strangely I got spam(neutral) trust.  because the existing rules in anticipation of following multiple accounts.
It's too late to make excuses. We will expose everyone

Moving to Ivory Tower
How exactly would that solve anything?
I will see all the farms. There will be fewer people behind which these farms can hide.
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really cool, I've been rewarded for what I did, I was anticipating going to do a bounty hunt in the same place because the rules are not prohibited multi account but banned from following multiple accounts, but strangely I got spam(neutral) trust.  because the existing rules in anticipation of following multiple accounts.
The tag is just in case you commit cheat in the future with the connected account in case you use it in the same campaign. Meanwhile, the neutral tag that you get will have no effect as long as you don't do a cheat campaign or share merit between the 3 connected accounts. And it's true that having more than one account is allowed on this forum, unless you're using it to cheat campaign or share merit.

Do you think this competition is fair?
Bitcointalk Community Awards 2021
At one point I'm not sure it's 100% fair as some users choose just to trick the merit source into distributing the merit to them with mention specific name [average is a spammer]. See how many spammers have merit from that, but obviously icopress has its own way of getting it right so it's not a big problem for us.

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Why are you being so serious? It's nothing but having some fun competition. I didn’t get what make you create this thread TBH. For me, the competition is something people would enjoy, look for the winner & forget after few days. It's very possible to manipulate. Don't take it too seriously.

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Why are these merit-sourcers squandering merits for bribing loyal voters, and not for useful posts for novice newbies on the forum who need real support?
I do agree that its a shitty way to spend your merit, but I don't think they are bribing, it is more of a "thank you".

I agree that sharing merits to voters is not the best way to use the merit system, which should instead be used to improve the quality of this forum. Particularly to share merits to members who do not even have the right to vote based on the terms of the competition, for example to Members and Jr. Members who have less than 50 merits. I've noticed that Mitchell and mole0815 do that (and maybe others).

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February 09, 2022, 10:18:03 PM
Last edit: February 09, 2022, 10:45:56 PM by Bitcoin SV
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Why are you being so serious? It's nothing but having some fun competition. I didn’t get what make you create this thread TBH. For me, the competition is something people would enjoy, look for the winner & forget after few days. It's very possible to manipulate. Don't take it too seriously.
Are you kidding? These unfair contests are originating all corruption on the forum.
If people like you don't give a damn about it, then others are not indifferent to the future of the forum.
All backstage scammers should be kicked out of here which are manipulating with system.
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