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March 12, 2022, 05:17:20 AM |
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Shakur is obviously taunting Oscar since he know that he is the crowd favorite and he is hungry for this match because he keeps following Valdez title while Valdez keeps dodging him by going to higher weight class and vacating his title. This match is actually surprising considering how underdog Valdez to Shakir while Valdez keeps choosing a mismatch opponent. I will definitely go for Shakir on this match because he was proven unstoppable despite many strong opponents he faced in his previous match. Valdez face is easy to bleed a hard puncher like Shakir will gonna have a frenzy time chasing him inside the ring.
This is definitely a mismatch IMHO.
Blame Uncle Bob for it all ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . Top Rank is building Valdez and TBH I'm quite surprised on this move the Top Rank to have this match early as we have seen in the past how they manage the career of their boxers where they pit their best when they are not in their peaks. IMO, this is not a mismatch, Shakur is just the favorite because of his defensive style of boxing but one power punch could change it all in boxing and we all know that Valdez has that kind of power that could change the outcome of the match if given the opportunity. Make sense for Uncle Bob to have this fight, in house money and whoever wins, still good for him. And if either is damage after that fight, he can still promote him and still make money. And who knows, the loser might be extra motivated to proved himself against the best in the future. So nothing to lose for Bob Arum and you will see how cunning his mind is even though he is already like 90 years old.
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March 12, 2022, 10:41:15 PM |
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They won't make this fight happen if they are not seeing something profitable for this match. But as far as I know, a lot of boxing fans don't like a defensive style because it is too boring. A lot still want a toe-to-toe fight as much as possible.
This is a unification so I believe that revenue for this fight would be huge. Shakur may be a favorite in the bookies but I will agree with you that most of the fight fans don't like defensive fighters as they are often boring to watch. Hardcore fans of the sweet science are the real winners for this upcoming fight as we are about to witness a battle where both fighters have zero lose and vying for that unified belt, seldom we can see that nowadays with this boxing politics.
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They won't make this fight happen if they are not seeing something profitable for this match. But as far as I know, a lot of boxing fans don't like a defensive style because it is too boring. A lot still want a toe-to-toe fight as much as possible.
This is a unification so I believe that revenue for this fight would be huge. Shakur may be a favorite in the bookies but I will agree with you that most of the fight fans don't like defensive fighters as they are often boring to watch. Probably in terms of money, millions should be on the line here, as you have said, both are champion and their belt are on the line in this fight. Hardcore fans of the sweet science are the real winners for this upcoming fight as we are about to witness a battle where both fighters have zero lose and vying for that unified belt, seldom we can see that nowadays with this boxing politics.
Yes, at least the fight has been made by Arum and didn't wait for Valdez to have another tune up fight before going after Shakur. And it just so happen that they are under Bob Arum that's why there are no boxing politics so fans are going to see another great fight early this year.
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March 13, 2022, 02:28:44 PM |
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Yes, at least the fight has been made by Arum and didn't wait for Valdez to have another tune up fight before going after Shakur. And it just so happen that they are under Bob Arum that's why there are no boxing politics so fans are going to see another great fight early this year.
I agree this should be a great fight as both fighters are in their prime, it's the best of the best and I'm expecting it will be a bloody fight knowing Valdez who's very aggressive and would always go for the knockout. 23 KOs means he is a tough fighter, and not losing a single fight in his career is something especial for a boxer who is never afraid to face anyone that will be put in front of him.
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Yes, at least the fight has been made by Arum and didn't wait for Valdez to have another tune up fight before going after Shakur. And it just so happen that they are under Bob Arum that's why there are no boxing politics so fans are going to see another great fight early this year.
I agree this should be a great fight as both fighters are in their prime, it's the best of the best and I'm expecting it will be a bloody fight knowing Valdez who's very aggressive and would always go for the knockout. 23 KOs means he is a tough fighter, and not losing a single fight in his career is something especial for a boxer who is never afraid to face anyone that will be put in front of him. Exactly, either one of them are not going to back out of the challenges, they wanted this fight for so long and it's fitting now that they have the belts and coming off from a great win. Valdez is the more aggressive fighter of the two, but Shakur count on his defensive skills and counter punching. So their respective trainer should have a game plan in paper and let us see if their fighters can execute and then readjust as the fight goes on.
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March 14, 2022, 12:29:21 PM |
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Shakur is obviously taunting Oscar since he know that he is the crowd favorite and he is hungry for this match because he keeps following Valdez title while Valdez keeps dodging him by going to higher weight class and vacating his title. This match is actually surprising considering how underdog Valdez to Shakir while Valdez keeps choosing a mismatch opponent. I will definitely go for Shakir on this match because he was proven unstoppable despite many strong opponents he faced in his previous match. Valdez face is easy to bleed a hard puncher like Shakir will gonna have a frenzy time chasing him inside the ring.
This is definitely a mismatch IMHO.
Blame Uncle Bob for it all ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . Top Rank is building Valdez and TBH I'm quite surprised on this move the Top Rank to have this match early as we have seen in the past how they manage the career of their boxers where they pit their best when they are not in their peaks. IMO, this is not a mismatch, Shakur is just the favorite because of his defensive style of boxing but one power punch could change it all in boxing and we all know that Valdez has that kind of power that could change the outcome of the match if given the opportunity. Promoters are highly considering how much money they can generate from the fight. So maybe Top Rank is seeing that this match will give them good revenue and they need that money because of the long break in the past couple of years. They won't make this fight happen if they are not seeing something profitable for this match. But as far as I know, a lot of boxing fans don't like a defensive style because it is too boring. A lot still want a toe-to-toe fight as much as possible. Most of us just wanted to see the boxer right on standing in the middle throwing fists. That's why we want someone like Valdez in the ring but Judges and Analysts probably are not seeing it that way. When they see a fast defensive fighter like Floyd or Shakur. We don't appreciate it that much but fighters themselves like to see how a boxer avoids clashing in the middle but wants to score by outsmarting opponents. I still believe Valdez to succeed in this match, hope to bet big next month.
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March 14, 2022, 12:37:45 PM |
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Most of us just wanted to see the boxer right on standing in the middle throwing fists.
Because that's why makes a boxing match entertaining to watch, not like a marathon where one boxer is running while the other is chasing. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) That's why we want someone like Valdez in the ring but Judges and Analysts probably are not seeing it that way. When they see a fast defensive fighter like Floyd or Shakur. We don't appreciate it that much but fighters themselves like to see how a boxer avoids clashing in the middle but wants to score by outsmarting opponents. I still believe Valdez to succeed in this match, hope to bet big next month.
Well, Valdez has to find a way to beat his opponent if he displayed a good defensive skill, in the end, it's still not the most entertaining boxer who would win but the one who hit his opponent more than he gets hit, that's boxing, that's the sport we are watching.
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March 14, 2022, 03:20:36 PM |
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Well, Valdez has to find a way to beat his opponent if he displayed a good defensive skill, in the end, it's still not the most entertaining boxer who would win but the one who hit his opponent more than he gets hit, that's boxing, that's the sport we are watching.
Based on the betting odds, Stevenson is the heavy favorite to win. I'm surprised but that's how the bookies see this fight. From this article, https://www.givemesport.com/87982471-oscar-valdez-vs-shakur-stevenson-betting-odds-what-are-they-currently ... odds are as follows. Betting Odds PaddyPower currently has odds on the outright winner of the Junior Lightweight Title unification bout, and they are as follows:
Valdez to win: 11/4 Steveson to win: 1/4 Draw: 20/1 For Valdez bettors, the odds is very enticing, gett 2.75 (in decimal format) as a return of your money if you win is already good.
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March 14, 2022, 08:33:21 PM |
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Well, Valdez has to find a way to beat his opponent if he displayed a good defensive skill, in the end, it's still not the most entertaining boxer who would win but the one who hit his opponent more than he gets hit, that's boxing, that's the sport we are watching.
Based on the betting odds, Stevenson is the heavy favorite to win. I'm surprised but that's how the bookies see this fight. From this article, https://www.givemesport.com/87982471-oscar-valdez-vs-shakur-stevenson-betting-odds-what-are-they-currently ... odds are as follows. Betting Odds PaddyPower currently has odds on the outright winner of the Junior Lightweight Title unification bout, and they are as follows:
Valdez to win: 11/4 Steveson to win: 1/4 Draw: 20/1 For Valdez bettors, the odds is very enticing, gett 2.75 (in decimal format) as a return of your money if you win is already good. Yep, but sometimes bookies are wrong though in their odds making, so imagine Valdez being an underdog wherein he can pull and win this fight even with a knock out because he has power in both hands. So no worries for Valdez fans, they can easily pull the trigger in this one because of the odds and for sure maybe some whales are going to put a lot of big money on Valdez winning this fight.
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March 14, 2022, 08:43:53 PM |
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Well, Valdez has to find a way to beat his opponent if he displayed a good defensive skill, in the end, it's still not the most entertaining boxer who would win but the one who hit his opponent more than he gets hit, that's boxing, that's the sport we are watching.
Based on the betting odds, Stevenson is the heavy favorite to win. I'm surprised but that's how the bookies see this fight. From this article, https://www.givemesport.com/87982471-oscar-valdez-vs-shakur-stevenson-betting-odds-what-are-they-currently ... odds are as follows. Betting Odds PaddyPower currently has odds on the outright winner of the Junior Lightweight Title unification bout, and they are as follows:
Valdez to win: 11/4 Steveson to win: 1/4 Draw: 20/1 For Valdez bettors, the odds is very enticing, gett 2.75 (in decimal format) as a return of your money if you win is already good. Yep, but sometimes bookies are wrong though in their odds making, so imagine Valdez being an underdog wherein he can pull and win this fight even with a knock out because he has power in both hands. So no worries for Valdez fans, they can easily pull the trigger in this one because of the odds and for sure maybe some whales are going to put a lot of big money on Valdez winning this fight. Anyone is free to place their bets here, so take advantage if you feel the bookies are making a mistake on putting Valdez as underdog. Some casinos are even giving Valdez odds at 3.75, so yes, this one is very attractive if you believe Valdez has high chance of winning. Remember, not all the time that casinos are right. How many upsets have we seen in the past few months in the sports of boxing? This will be your chance to earn good money if you are right with Valdez. So place your bets now while the odds are good.
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It looks like they're both determine with their coming fight, and i feel it interesting. I think this fight will be a war, a wont boring at all. Oscar Valdez will bring it and so will Shakur. I saw Shakurs' last fight and his opponent are no challenge. So i think he's gonna win this fight. Valdez is good but he's not on Shakurs level . https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dazn.com/en-PH/news/amp/boxing/shakur-stevenson-vs-oscar-valdez-title-unification-set-for-april-30/96mpm32p27o312h19ylj4um13“I have been chasing this fight for nearly three years since we were both at featherweight," Stevenson said in a press release. "On April 30, I’m going to show him and the world why he ducked me all this time. I’m the best young fighter in the world, and I will become unified champion.” Valdez's heard what Stevenson's been saying about him and vows to quiet him once and for all. "I want to make it clear that I am the best 130-pound fighter in the world,” Valdez said. “We know Shakur Stevenson is very good at fighting, but he's even better at social media. I'll let my fists speak for themselves.”
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Well, Valdez has to find a way to beat his opponent if he displayed a good defensive skill, in the end, it's still not the most entertaining boxer who would win but the one who hit his opponent more than he gets hit, that's boxing, that's the sport we are watching.
Based on the betting odds, Stevenson is the heavy favorite to win. I'm surprised but that's how the bookies see this fight. From this article, https://www.givemesport.com/87982471-oscar-valdez-vs-shakur-stevenson-betting-odds-what-are-they-currently ... odds are as follows. Betting Odds PaddyPower currently has odds on the outright winner of the Junior Lightweight Title unification bout, and they are as follows:
Valdez to win: 11/4 Steveson to win: 1/4 Draw: 20/1 For Valdez bettors, the odds is very enticing, gett 2.75 (in decimal format) as a return of your money if you win is already good. Yep, but sometimes bookies are wrong though in their odds making, so imagine Valdez being an underdog wherein he can pull and win this fight even with a knock out because he has power in both hands. So no worries for Valdez fans, they can easily pull the trigger in this one because of the odds and for sure maybe some whales are going to put a lot of big money on Valdez winning this fight. Well this is something that has many in uncertainty, on the one hand Stevenson has potential and a strong punch, if I were Valdez I would be careful with his right hook, it is really strong, on the other hand Valdez has a solid defense and to find that in boxing with stevenson-style opponents is something extraordinary, if many whales go in favor of Valdez it must be because of something they know, perhaps privileged information, because making a bet on me right now the truth is not I would know, previously I was much more inclined towards Stevenson, but now I have doubts, Valdez may be the surprise.
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^^ Valdez though is known to have a crazy left hook as well, this is his main weapon now, he used it against Berchelt in their fight to knock him out. That's why this fight is going to be very interesting as both could land solid punch against each other and we will see who's chin and body are going to hold in the end. But so far Stevenson remains to be the favorite to win this fight base on the odds but this can't be for certain as Valdez is also been tested many times and won the fight.
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^^ Valdez though is known to have a crazy left hook as well, this is his main weapon now, he used it against Berchelt in their fight to knock him out.
Shakur knows what Valdez main weapon is, potentially he has an approach on how to negate it or at least counter with his own body shots. That's why this fight is going to be very interesting as both could land solid punch against each other and we will see who's chin and body are going to hold in the end. But so far Stevenson remains to be the favorite to win this fight base on the odds but this can't be for certain as Valdez is also been tested many times and won the fight.
Their style will really be shown in this fight, a defensive boxer against a offensive fighter. We will know which one will prevail and what kind of style it is. It could go to 12 rounds or this could fight wouldn't last if they decided to fight mano a mano in the center.
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^^ Valdez though is known to have a crazy left hook as well, this is his main weapon now, he used it against Berchelt in their fight to knock him out.
Shakur knows what Valdez main weapon is, potentially he has an approach on how to negate it or at least counter with his own body shots. That's why this fight is going to be very interesting as both could land solid punch against each other and we will see who's chin and body are going to hold in the end. But so far Stevenson remains to be the favorite to win this fight base on the odds but this can't be for certain as Valdez is also been tested many times and won the fight.
Their style will really be shown in this fight, a defensive boxer against a offensive fighter. We will know which one will prevail and what kind of style it is. It could go to 12 rounds or this could fight wouldn't last if they decided to fight mano a mano in the center. You are right, by pure logic when a boxer has a right or left hook as his main lethal weapon, what he has to do is firstly avoid that side and secondly look for the weak point, and I think that if it is good that he seeks to attack his torso and above all for On the side of the ribs, it is the only way he can have to defend himself better. However, he can appeal to trust his own instinct and face him without fear to his left and he would be showing that he is not afraid of anything, even Valdez himself who is irreverent to them.
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March 25, 2022, 10:10:38 PM |
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^^ Valdez though is known to have a crazy left hook as well, this is his main weapon now, he used it against Berchelt in their fight to knock him out. That's why this fight is going to be very interesting as both could land solid punch against each other and we will see who's chin and body are going to hold in the end. But so far Stevenson remains to be the favorite to win this fight base on the odds but this can't be for certain as Valdez is also been tested many times and won the fight.
Between the two, Valdez is far superior in terms of experience IMO but what separates Shakur from the past opponents of Valdez is his agility and his defensive skill, which may be the reason why online bookies have put him the favorite to get the W in this fight. Shakur's chin has not been tested thus far and I'm pretty sure that Valdez's power punch could break this so this is what makes this fight interesting as the underdog has a very good chance of winning.
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March 26, 2022, 04:10:04 AM |
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^^ Valdez though is known to have a crazy left hook as well, this is his main weapon now, he used it against Berchelt in their fight to knock him out. That's why this fight is going to be very interesting as both could land solid punch against each other and we will see who's chin and body are going to hold in the end. But so far Stevenson remains to be the favorite to win this fight base on the odds but this can't be for certain as Valdez is also been tested many times and won the fight.
Between the two, Valdez is far superior in terms of experience IMO but what separates Shakur from the past opponents of Valdez is his agility and his defensive skill, which may be the reason why online bookies have put him the favorite to get the W in this fight. Shakur's chin has not been tested thus far and I'm pretty sure that Valdez's power punch could break this so this is what makes this fight interesting as the underdog has a very good chance of winning. True, he has a solid defense, but could it be enough to balance and put it on his favor against a aggressive Valdez? So we want to see Valdez touching that chin and see if it will hold or will it break because of the power or the accumulation of punches from Valdez. Or if Valdez can break Shakur's defense, or Shakur overwhelming Valdez with body shots because that's what he is known for. Truly opposing style that there's a lot of scenario and speculation right now as to how the fight will go.
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March 31, 2022, 02:25:00 PM |
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^^ Valdez though is known to have a crazy left hook as well, this is his main weapon now, he used it against Berchelt in their fight to knock him out. That's why this fight is going to be very interesting as both could land solid punch against each other and we will see who's chin and body are going to hold in the end. But so far Stevenson remains to be the favorite to win this fight base on the odds but this can't be for certain as Valdez is also been tested many times and won the fight.
Between the two, Valdez is far superior in terms of experience IMO but what separates Shakur from the past opponents of Valdez is his agility and his defensive skill, which may be the reason why online bookies have put him the favorite to get the W in this fight. Shakur's chin has not been tested thus far and I'm pretty sure that Valdez's power punch could break this so this is what makes this fight interesting as the underdog has a very good chance of winning. True, he has a solid defense, but could it be enough to balance and put it on his favor against a aggressive Valdez? So we want to see Valdez touching that chin and see if it will hold or will it break because of the power or the accumulation of punches from Valdez. Or if Valdez can break Shakur's defense, or Shakur overwhelming Valdez with body shots because that's what he is known for. Truly opposing style that there's a lot of scenario and speculation right now as to how the fight will go. Most always highlight Valdez's left hook and there is something that not many know about people who handle their left very well or athletes who are left-handed, these types of athletes tend to think faster than a right-handed person, no I know the effect that right-handed boxers have but I know that left-handed boxers have more reaction speed, so this is a point in favor of Valdez, the SHAKUR chin thing is not just any myth, this is something obvious, although the truth I no longer dare to give a prognosis from that clear evidence, Shakur must have a good plan to protect himself from it.
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March 31, 2022, 02:46:25 PM |
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^^ Valdez though is known to have a crazy left hook as well, this is his main weapon now, he used it against Berchelt in their fight to knock him out. That's why this fight is going to be very interesting as both could land solid punch against each other and we will see who's chin and body are going to hold in the end. But so far Stevenson remains to be the favorite to win this fight base on the odds but this can't be for certain as Valdez is also been tested many times and won the fight.
Between the two, Valdez is far superior in terms of experience IMO but what separates Shakur from the past opponents of Valdez is his agility and his defensive skill, which may be the reason why online bookies have put him the favorite to get the W in this fight. Shakur's chin has not been tested thus far and I'm pretty sure that Valdez's power punch could break this so this is what makes this fight interesting as the underdog has a very good chance of winning. You are right that mate and I think that also Valdez is a good fighter in his division and has a strong stamina that must a fighter needs to fight until the last round of the fight. But we can not predict what will happen in this fight even though Shakur can not knockdown Valdez for sure what is his aiming for is to win this match against the champion and also he will trained hard and double his training to beat Valdez. It's hard to make a choice.
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April 15, 2022, 01:14:12 PM |
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^^ Valdez though is known to have a crazy left hook as well, this is his main weapon now, he used it against Berchelt in their fight to knock him out. That's why this fight is going to be very interesting as both could land solid punch against each other and we will see who's chin and body are going to hold in the end. But so far Stevenson remains to be the favorite to win this fight base on the odds but this can't be for certain as Valdez is also been tested many times and won the fight.
Between the two, Valdez is far superior in terms of experience IMO but what separates Shakur from the past opponents of Valdez is his agility and his defensive skill, which may be the reason why online bookies have put him the favorite to get the W in this fight. Shakur's chin has not been tested thus far and I'm pretty sure that Valdez's power punch could break this so this is what makes this fight interesting as the underdog has a very good chance of winning. You are right that mate and I think that also Valdez is a good fighter in his division and has a strong stamina that must a fighter needs to fight until the last round of the fight. But we can not predict what will happen in this fight even though Shakur can not knockdown Valdez for sure what is his aiming for is to win this match against the champion and also he will trained hard and double his training to beat Valdez. It's hard to make a choice. I see the thread, every opinion, in fact I read it several times and I'm still not sure what I can extract to make a good bet, I have the point of view that Valdez has a lethal left hook, and I know that left-handed athletes are much more They are fast and have a strong punch, but on the other hand Shakur knows what is coming and it is not easy at all, he must already have his strategy, if he focuses on both fighters being able to turn this fight around, I would go I think for Valdez, if the fight were right now I would say Valdez for the simple fact that his left hook is lethal.
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