Incorrect and unjustified deleted messages from 1xbit participants

[suchmoon]

Looks like OP's problem has been solved... permanently:

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[decodx]

Looks like OP's problem has been solved... permanently:

That's at least one less to worry about. Does anyone know what was the reason for the ban?

[logfiles]

That's at least one less to worry about. Does anyone know what was the reason for the ban?

The reason could mostly like be due to Ban evasion. The profile was discovered by @rhomelmabini to be connected to Mikwik  which was already banned.

He probably drew more attention to himself with this rant and someone who had not seen the evidence of ban evasion before decided to report the profile.

[acroman08]

The reason could mostly like be due to Ban evasion. The profile was discovered by @rhomelmabini to be connected to Mikwik  which was already banned.

He probably drew more attention to himself with this rant and someone who had not seen the evidence of ban evasion before decided to report the profile.

thanks for digging that up. looks like other 1xbit signature campaign members/Shiller won't be able to use the banning of mardaed as unjustified or them being targeted to be banned. just like this one I've seen other member/s from their signature complaining about their post being targeted and deleted. I wouldn't be surprised if they used the banning of mardaed as a complaint. luckily logfiles found the report for ban evasion.

[shasan]

I beg anyone to not continue replying to this thread, it's just like 1xbit's advertisement in Meta board. @OP actually can reply to this thread [Ban Request] 1xbit signature spammer. Do you agree? instead creating new one.

I agree with you that it is an advertisement of 1xbit but I think it is the right place to discuss about post deletion. But it is a matter of joy who are anti-1xbit that op has already been banned. So, op will not be able to post anymore and hopefully think if s/he has any alt account will be ban too considering as ban evasion.

[Pmalek]

@OP actually can reply to this thread [Ban Request] 1xbit signature spammer. Do you agree? instead creating new one.

Actually, he can't. The thread has a local rule which says that participants of the 1xBit campaign can't take part in the discussion. I don't know how serious admins take those rules, but thread starters are allowed to create their own. Personally, I think if you are talking about a certain person, or a group like in this case, those subjects should be allowed to share their point of view. Not that 1xBit participants have a legitimate case. They decided to wear what they are wearing, and that's it. This is the only forum I have ever been part of that allows proven scammers to stay and those who support them. OP and the rest need to know that. Not that they care about anything though. 

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

Personally, I think if you are talking about a certain person, or a group like in this case, those subjects should be allowed to share their point of view. Not that 1xBit participants have a legitimate case. They decided to wear what they are wearing, and that's it. This is the only forum I have ever been part of that allows proven scammers to stay and those who support them. OP and the rest need to know that. Not that they care about anything though. 

I understand your point of view but there are many similar thread already on that issue but all resulting to the off topic contributions of the accused campaign participants. The thread was created for members outside the campaign to have a discussion about the matter raised without getting spammed so I understand the reason behind the local rule. That the forum doesn't moderate scams doesn't mean the occupant shoudn't as well. Theymos and the administrators are just been free minded, giving the power back to the community just as Bitcoin has, it's left to us to use it well.

If something is causing a nuisance in the community, we stand up against it or we mightn't have a community. We won the world against spammers before, don't see a reason why this one would be a problem. If we join has together to report this spams as we come across them, we would have a strong argument and the administrators will be force to take action and impose a ban on the signature ad.

[skarais]

Not many participants of the 1xbit signature campaign complain about why many of their posts are deleted by moderators regardless of whether the posts are reported or not. I think it proves that most of them know the cause and effect of promoting a campaign and I think they weigh the risks too.

I'm sure the mod also won't delete a really quality post even if it's made by the current 1xbit campaign poster. In addition to not moderating fraud, the mod will also be neutral towards reports received so that it is not considered to be beneficial to either party. This is justice that all participants of any campaign get from mods but since most of the 1xbit entrants are only concerned with getting paid without any quality in the post then their posts have been reported for deletion.

Actually, he can't. The thread has a local rule which says that participants of the 1xBit campaign can't take part in the discussion. I don't know how serious admins take those rules, but thread starters are allowed to create their own.

Some posts from 1xbit participants are in that thread and it seems the local rules for thread created by _BlackStar are not preventing them from posting. No posts are deleted even though the thread has local rules.

[Pmalek]

That the forum doesn't moderate scams doesn't mean the occupant shoudn't as well. Theymos and the administrators are just been free minded, giving the power back to the community just as Bitcoin has, it's left to us to use it well.

If something is causing a nuisance in the community, we stand up against it or we mightn't have a community. We won the world against spammers before, don't see a reason why this one would be a problem.

Maybe you misunderstood my post for some sort of support for 1xBit and their promoters. It isn't support. I was trying to say that those wearing their signatures are lucky. They are fortunate because the forum works the way it does and allows them to promote the services of a company who has caused a lot of problems to many players. Scams shouldn't be moderated, they should be banned.

Some posts from 1xbit participants are in that thread and it seems the local rules for thread created by _BlackStar are not preventing them from posting. No posts are deleted even though the thread has local rules.

My guess is that the posts would still have to be reported to the admins pointing them to the local rule as well. If no one reports the posts, admins won't delete them unless they come across the thread and decide to check for rule breakers.     

[Poker Player]

I remember reporting some of the posts on that campaing bullshit. From now on I'm going to take more notice and report as many as I can. Since scams are not moderated, we can do something to fuck them up. If they get a bunch of posts deleted they get paid less.

And it is not surprising that the one who came to complain has been banned for ban evasion. As of today 1xbit campaing participants are the worst of Bitcointalk.

[Stalker22]

I remember reporting some of the posts on that campaing bullshit. From now on I'm going to take more notice and report as many as I can. Since scams are not moderated, we can do something to fuck them up. If they get a bunch of posts deleted they get paid less.

And it is not surprising that the one who came to complain has been banned for ban evasion. As of today 1xbit campaing participants are the worst of Bitcointalk.

Yes, I agree. Getting rid of these scammers from our forum is up to all of us. The issue is no longer whether 1xbit is scamming their players or not, the topic really comes down to their actions and how they affect this community. Evidently, 1xbit hire the worst of the scum for their promotions and ignore all the rules of professional conduct. Disgusting. I understand that at times it can be hard to detect the difference between good and bad on here, but you have to play by the rules of the forum to be a part of this amazing community.

[Daniel91]

I remember reporting some of the posts on that campaing bullshit. From now on I'm going to take more notice and report as many as I can. Since scams are not moderated, we can do something to fuck them up. If they get a bunch of posts deleted they get paid less.

And it is not surprising that the one who came to complain has been banned for ban evasion. As of today 1xbit campaing participants are the worst of Bitcointalk.

Yes, I agree. Getting rid of these scammers from our forum is up to all of us. The issue is no longer whether 1xbit is scamming their players or not, the topic really comes down to their actions and how they affect this community. Evidently, 1xbit hire the worst of the scum for their promotions and ignore all the rules of professional conduct. Disgusting. I understand that at times it can be hard to detect the difference between good and bad on here, but you have to play by the rules of the forum to be a part of this amazing community.

I agree with you.
Each member of this forum is responsible for this forum, its quality and protection against scam.
We can't expect admins and moderators to be able to see and solve everything.
I understand that many members come to this forum because they are desperate and want to earn something.
Due to their reputation and forum rank, they can't get involved in better paid campaigns, and they don't have enough knowledge and experience to write quality posts.
In that way, the quality of this forum is ruined, which is not good.
If we want a quality and relevant forum, we must fight for it.
No one is forbidden to try to earn something on this forum through certain paid projects, but we must insist on certain standards and rules.
Unfortunately, not every job is for everyone, as in real life. 

[skarais]

My guess is that the posts would still have to be reported to the admins pointing them to the local rule as well. If no one reports the posts, admins won't delete them unless they come across the thread and decide to check for rule breakers.

It's probably true that the admin won't know that the user has violated the local rules in the thread if the OP or another user doesn't report the post. Even if the admin knows someone has violated it, I'm sure they won't act if they don't receive a report. Of course it has nothing to do with scam moderation, but the admin can remove the post due to thread local rules.

[_BlackStar]

My guess is that the posts would still have to be reported to the admins pointing them to the local rule as well. If no one reports the posts, admins won't delete them unless they come across the thread and decide to check for rule breakers.

I have tried to report it to the moderators because one of them has violated the local rules of my thread, but till now the moderators have not addressed my report about the post. I don't know what is the reason my report is not handled even when that user has violated my thread specific rules. But I have time to wait until the report is handled.

[Pmalek]

I have tried to report it to the moderators because one of them has violated the local rules of my thread, but till now the moderators have not addressed my report about the post. I don't know what is the reason my report is not handled even when that user has violated my thread specific rules.

How much time has passed since you reported that user's post and does it still show the status 'unresolved'? Maybe the admins are using the same logic as I did with my previous post and they came to the conclusion that even though you have a local rule, those who you are talking about should have the right to defend themselves. hilariousandco usually shares his own takes on the rules in public. Maybe he will say something about this particular case as well. Or you can try to PM him and ask him to comment here for everyone to see. 

[The Sceptical Chymist]

It's not about 1xBit participants; it's all about your post quality & anyone else's post quality from any other campaign. I haven’t checked out your posts nor anyone else's post from 1xBit campaign participants.

I have no idea who's in that campaign either (and honestly I thought it had ended, given all the bad publicity), but even without that knowledge I would bet my house that those posts were deleted with good cause.  Why?  Because campaigns like 1xbit.com's attract the bottom of the barrel as far as bitcointalk posters go.  It was the same thing when Yobit had its campaigns, and it's the same as every single signature campaign or bounty that accepts members with negative trust, no merits, and/or no checking of post history by the campaign manager.

Any time we get one of these shitty campaigns on the forum, it's like the dead are rising from their graves--long inactive members from the 2017 boom start waking up and applying, and most of them are no doubt part of account farms started before the merit system when you could actually farm accounts with no problem.

Just get over it, OP (and anyone else who wants to bitch).  Nobody ought to be in the 1xbit campaign to begin with.

Scams shouldn't be moderated, they should be banned.

Yeah, good luck trying to get that to happen.  I share your feelings and have since 2015, but Theymos is kind of an anarchist capitalist and thus lets scams advertise here and does sweet fuck all about all the other scams being perpetrated right here on this forum.  Part of me respects that, because it represents true freedom....but part of me just wants all of these jackoffs banned for life.

[_BlackStar]

How much time has passed since you reported that user's post and does it still show the status 'unresolved'?

As you can see in the image, I've reported the post to the mod on February 10th and now we are into March 1st, meaning maybe the report was not handled because the mod can't decide if it deserves to be removed. It's possible that the mod has considered the post unworthy of deletion for free speech despite the fact that he has violated the local rules of the thread.

hilariousandco usually shares his own takes on the rules in public. Maybe he will say something about this particular case as well. Or you can try to PM him and ask him to comment here for everyone to see.

I haven't thought of directing him to this thread via PM or whatever, but maybe he already knows about the matter.