[SCAM] Citizen Finance [CIFI] - Scammed Bounty Hunters

[Rikafip]

While you are right, this is also true that most projects don't want to hand over the fund to a campaign manager because campaign manager may scam too. We have seen such case a lot of times. If campaign manager scam the hunters, that will be a huge amount and it will have influence on the market too.

I think that bigger problem for them is knowing that they won't have a chance of scamming bounty hunters if they give tokens to the bounty manager. Another issue that altcoin projects often have TGE after bounty campaign is over, sometimes ever months after that so even if they want, they cant give tokens at the start of the campaign.

I have been offered to manage few campaigns but had to deny for such reason. Team doesn’t want to escrow the fund, doesn’t want to trust me. Well till this day, I have learnt that you are very unlikely to get a project to manage, if you have straight rules.

Yep, if you ask for escrow or tokens, they can always easily find another bounty manager who won't ask for either. Plenty of those here on bitcointalk that don't care much about bounty hunters as they get paid ahead in stablecoins/BTC or some other listed cryptocurrency.

ATH was $381 according to coinmarketcap. That makes sense why they don't want to pay the hunters. We have seen such excuse a lot of times.

Hah $381. So they also use pump&dump scheme, not a surprise.

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[Texac]

Now who is the scammer? A team who paid 80% of all bounty campaign and 30% from the last 2 campaign or hunters who use multiple accounts to cheat the team? Excuse me but that line “hardworking bounty hunters” is an insult to the term “hardworking” because we all know each hunter owns more than 2 accounts which is against the rules your manager set. If you guys can go against rules and feel comfortable then see others going against it as a scam who is deceiving who? Because it affects you directly, it’s a scam while you do same against the team, it’s not a scam.

I have never used 2 or more accounts.  one is enough for me.  so you don't have to say that about all hunters.

[Rikafip]

I have never used 2 or more accounts.  one is enough for me.  so you don't have to say that about all hunters.

Maybe I am completely wrong, but If its true that you are saying I  think that you are among the rare bounty hunters that don't abuse bounty campaigns with alts.

Just think about, why they wouldn't do that as there is very little risk involved. I mean, even if they get caught they will just get rid off that Newbie account that got tagged and will create another one and continue with business as usual. It would be a completely different story if bounty managers set requirement that only Jr Members (or even better Member) can join as for an average bounty hunter getting even 1 merit is hard so loosing an account would hurt them. That is not in anyone's interest though as bounty managers need good numbers they can show to their clients.

[albon]

Now who is the scammer? A team who paid 80% of all bounty campaign and 30% from the last 2 campaign or hunters who use multiple accounts to cheat the team? Excuse me but that line “hardworking bounty hunters” is an insult to the term “hardworking” because we all know each hunter owns more than 2 accounts which is against the rules your manager set. If you guys can go against rules and feel comfortable then see others going against it as a scam who is deceiving who? Because it affects you directly, it’s a scam while you do same against the team, it’s not a scam.

Are you an idiot? People who used multiple accounts in the citizen finance bounty have been disqualified and deprived of tokens. For the screenshot in which I said that I have "Done from 3 accounts" these were the Telegram accounts which are my personal account and my brothers' accounts to report a Telegram channel that impersonates the bountyportals group name, I haven't used multiple accounts in the bounty as like many honest bounty hunters, you want to prove to people that the CIFI project didn't pay the 80% of the tokens because the bounty hunters cheated, but you are a liar and you have attached false proofs to mislead people. The CIFI project is a 100% scam project, and if we assume that there are people who cheated in the bounty, what about the honest people who worked for days and months to promote this project, why didn't you pay them their full tokens, can you answer?

[thesmallgod]

blaming alt accounts has one of the escape routes to not paying hunters just like some asshole already started making references to that as the reason why CIFI will not pay

[Little Mouse]

Yep, if you ask for escrow or tokens, they can always easily find another bounty manager who won't ask for either. Plenty of those here on bitcointalk that don't care much about bounty hunters as they get paid ahead in stablecoins/BTC or some other listed cryptocurrency.

Yeah that's it and that's one of the reasons for which I was not able to launch a bounty campaign yet lol. It’s very hard to get such bounty to manage. There are very few managers like that. Julerz is one of them who practice the escrow rewards most afaik.

[noormcs5]

Considering the ICO price of token was $2.8 (and I guess bounty pool of 5000 CIFI was based on that price) and now it's ~$36

ATH was $381 according to coinmarketcap. That makes sense why they don't want to pay the hunters. We have seen such excuse a lot of times.

So apart from the project, it is the hard work of the bounty hunters who created the hype for this project due to their marketing, and hence the token gained so much value. The bounty hunters deserve their reward as it was because of them this project became so successful but afterward, the team forgets about the hunters as they do not want to distribute the token because it's so valuable in price. It's a sad ending for the bounty hunters.

[Rikafip]

Yeah that's it and that's one of the reasons for which I was not able to launch a bounty campaign yet lol. It’s very hard to get such bounty to manage. There are very few managers like that. Julerz is one of them who practice the escrow rewards most afaik.

Yeah, I thought the sane, that yuo have to make a lot of compromise in order to get bounty campaign as if you demand some things in order to protect bounty hunters, they will easily find someone else as there will be 5 of them that won't set any demands. They will get their fee in BTC/stablecoin/whatever and won't give a thought about possibility of bounty hunters working for nothing.

So apart from the project, it is the hard work of the bounty hunters who created the hype for this project due to their marketing, and hence the token gained so much value. The bounty hunters deserve their reward as it was because of them this project became so successful but afterward, the team forgets about the hunters as they do not want to distribute the token because it's so valuable in price. It's a sad ending for the bounty hunters.

C'mon, lets be real here. If bounty hunters really had so much influence at the price, no one would dare to screw you over as if your influence was so big when creating hype, you would be able to  create so much FUD that it would ruin the price. But as we can see from numerous similar cases, altcoin projects are not afraid at all, meaning they know that you can't do anything.

I mean, I feel sorry for those bounty hunters that did solid job and got screwed, but like 99% of them do way below average work (mot likely abuse campaign with alts as well) and have no influence whatsoever on the success of the altcoin project.

[cryptocma]

Considering the ICO price of token was $2.8 (and I guess bounty pool of 5000 CIFI was based on that price) and now it's ~$36

ATH was $381 according to coinmarketcap. That makes sense why they don't want to pay the hunters. We have seen such excuse a lot of times.

So apart from the project, it is the hard work of the bounty hunters who created the hype for this project due to their marketing, and hence the token gained so much value. The bounty hunters deserve their reward as it was because of them this project became so successful but afterward, the team forgets about the hunters as they do not want to distribute the token because it's so valuable in price. It's a sad ending for the bounty hunters.

LOL, if bounty campaign as you think played a good role in the price action then it was really bad because after the end of bounty, price dropped from $3 IDO to $1.2. Will you still say it was bounty hunters that promoted and helped the price? Price action went positive almost 6 months after the end of bounty so try to get facts before saying anything

[MiF]

I am not a participant of this campaign but i feel all of the pain from being scammed, i am following bounty portals and i am participating signature campaigns from different projects before. But cifi team is the only team that did not want the poor bounty hunters to earn big from their hard work, sometimes bounty hunters did not earn because not all of the project that they promoted are successful the very worst situation is when the softcap is not reach and hunters will not get payment at all, cifi is what we called as blessing in disguise because the token price rise unexpectedly that time but they only paid 30% of the signature campaign that was very worst, because it seems like they dont want the hunters to earn big, i think cifi team didnt know how hard to earn on bounty hunting sometimes you need to work 4 months to recieved cents, because the profit from bounty hunting depends on the projects outcome or market responds so i think the action taken by the team citizen finance is really unjust.