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March 01, 2022, 09:40:35 PM
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Lets see how this turns out, after all on the surface it may seem like a good idea but we know that a great deal of the twitter accounts out there are just bots, so someone could influence the results very easily and probably discourage the academy of doing this ever again.

And when we add economic interests, like being able to win a bet by directly manipulating the results, then things could get even more complicated as there is nothing stopping the people in charge of so many fake accounts to collude among themselves and make a killing in the process by winning this bet.

Below are the 10 short-listed films to be included in the oscar's fan-favorite film and you have up until Mar 3 to vote. So if you are a fan of one of these films, you can participate on this year's award as they are having a sweepstake here, and be the winner of a trip to the 95th Academy awards. Wonder if a bot will win, how it will go to the awards night.  Grin


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"Include #Sweepstakes in your #OscarsFanFavorite vote for a chance to win a trip to the 95th Academy Awards."
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March 02, 2022, 02:06:23 AM
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Below are the 10 short-listed films to be included in the oscar's fan-favorite film and you have up until Mar 3 to vote. So if you are a fan of one of these films, you can participate on this year's award as they are having a sweepstake here, and be the winner of a trip to the 95th Academy awards. Wonder if a bot will win, how it will go to the awards night.  Grin

"Include #Sweepstakes in your #OscarsFanFavorite vote for a chance to win a trip to the 95th Academy Awards."

Has anybody found a betting site which is providing bettors odds at least for these top ten short-listed movies? The voting has almost come to an end and it seems this award is really not made available in various betting sites that I checked. I think even the betting platforms are wary for possible cheating.

If a bot will win in the sweepstakes, it is of course the bot owner who will go to the awards night. The more bots you have the more chances of winning.  Grin
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March 02, 2022, 06:27:02 AM
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Below are the 10 short-listed films to be included in the oscar's fan-favorite film and you have up until Mar 3 to vote. So if you are a fan of one of these films, you can participate on this year's award as they are having a sweepstake here, and be the winner of a trip to the 95th Academy awards. Wonder if a bot will win, how it will go to the awards night.  Grin

"Include #Sweepstakes in your #OscarsFanFavorite vote for a chance to win a trip to the 95th Academy Awards."

Has anybody found a betting site which is providing bettors odds at least for these top ten short-listed movies? The voting has almost come to an end and it seems this award is really not made available in various betting sites that I checked. I think even the betting platforms are wary for possible cheating.

If a bot will win in the sweepstakes, it is of course the bot owner who will go to the awards night. The more bots you have the more chances of winning.  Grin
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Good idea!
Bot experts are probably actively working on this topic. And there may be several of them who know and know how to break through the defenses. It will be fun when a couple of such "super bots" compete.
And Twitter devs are powerless, and have already launched a vote. Well, then the most super-duper "super bot" will win and, accordingly, the film that is promoted (maybe even for a fee Smiley) by the author of this super bot.
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March 02, 2022, 01:44:09 PM
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This is actually pretty cool (of course hoping that there is no interference by bots or anything else that would be cheating of course). I’m tired of movies (like Blow and Anchorman for example ) getting poor reviews from the “experts”, so it’ll be nice seeing a vote from the fans for once. I personally don’t think cheating will be an issue but we’ll see I suppose.

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March 02, 2022, 02:38:05 PM
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This is actually pretty cool (of course hoping that there is no interference by bots or anything else that would be cheating of course). I’m tired of movies (like Blow and Anchorman for example ) getting poor reviews from the “experts”, so it’ll be nice seeing a vote from the fans for once. I personally don’t think cheating will be an issue but we’ll see I suppose.

Yeah, I personally would love to see a voting category that would be based on a different perspective other than those who are usually being held to assess and judge the movies in receiving awards. If the management of Oscars would really permit such platform to be used, then is supposed they would do something to prevent any interference or cheating, right?

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March 02, 2022, 02:48:03 PM
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The participation of bots in the voting can only be excluded by a strict selection of participants for voting, for example, only confirmed Twitter accounts can be used. If bots vote, then such voting cannot be considered valid, and everyone is well aware of this.

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March 02, 2022, 03:37:47 PM
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The participation of bots in the voting can only be excluded by a strict selection of participants for voting, for example, only confirmed Twitter accounts can be used. If bots vote, then such voting cannot be considered valid, and everyone is well aware of this.

How do you define "confirmed Twitter accounts"?

There are bots with lots of followers, and whose tweets and engagements with other accounts seem natural. It'll be hard to screen which is which for Twitter votes, hence it will be not wise to use fan favorites on gambling, as results will always be biased and manipulated to the core.

I would personally skip these types of events, and would just go directly to the normal lines instead. It's very hard to profit on these types of lines.

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I mean the blue icon indicating that the account is authentic. No bot owner would be in the business of getting such badges so it would be a good solution to weed out bots in voting.

In fact I think Twitter is very centralized and censored so I wouldn't do such voting there at all. You need a completely decentralized platform for this kind of thing.

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March 02, 2022, 10:42:50 PM
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I mean the blue icon indicating that the account is authentic. No bot owner would be in the business of getting such badges so it would be a good solution to weed out bots in voting.

In fact I think Twitter is very centralized and censored so I wouldn't do such voting there at all. You need a completely decentralized platform for this kind of thing.

After this event, we will see if they are successful in handling this type of award in Oscars.
They will also see if it is worth to hold an award voted by the community.
As of now, I haven't seen any sportsbook giving a betting line for this fan-favorite film of the year via twitter.
Only the regular categories are included in the Oscars' betting lines.
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After this event, we will see if they are successful in handling this type of award in Oscars.
They will also see if it is worth to hold an award voted by the community.
As of now, I haven't seen any sportsbook giving a betting line for this fan-favorite film of the year via twitter.
Only the regular categories are included in the Oscars' betting lines.
If this is successful, how will you guys react? will you love it to continue this way or not? right now I'm seeing mixed opinions, some are interested with this type of voting but others are skeptical with it but to me, I can accept whatever will be the outcome. Even if we have a doubt, it was still nice to see that they are now taking the voting to the next level.

I guess the reason why most sportsbooks don't have it is because this was still new and they themselves are also confused if it's a good move to adopt it or not. They need to observe things first. Twitter being centralized can be a good thing because they can monitor fake accounts.

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March 07, 2022, 03:47:04 PM
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^

I mean the blue icon indicating that the account is authentic. No bot owner would be in the business of getting such badges so it would be a good solution to weed out bots in voting.

In fact I think Twitter is very centralized and censored so I wouldn't do such voting there at all. You need a completely decentralized platform for this kind of thing.

After this event, we will see if they are successful in handling this type of award in Oscars.
They will also see if it is worth to hold an award voted by the community.
As of now, I haven't seen any sportsbook giving a betting line for this fan-favorite film of the year via twitter.
Only the regular categories are included in the Oscars' betting lines.

I think this is because bookmakers understand the possible risks if there are abuses by Twitter and voting participants. We will not see betting on this kind of events as it is not an easy task to analyze and set the odds.

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March 07, 2022, 03:50:24 PM
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After this event, we will see if they are successful in handling this type of award in Oscars.
They will also see if it is worth to hold an award voted by the community.
As of now, I haven't seen any sportsbook giving a betting line for this fan-favorite film of the year via twitter.
Only the regular categories are included in the Oscars' betting lines.
If this is successful, how will you guys react? will you love it to continue this way or not? right now I'm seeing mixed opinions, some are interested with this type of voting but others are skeptical with it but to me, I can accept whatever will be the outcome. Even if we have a doubt, it was still nice to see that they are now taking the voting to the next level.

I guess the reason why most sportsbooks don't have it is because this was still new and they themselves are also confused if it's a good move to adopt it or not. They need to observe things first. Twitter being centralized can be a good thing because they can monitor fake accounts.
I agree that this is just a completely new way of determining public opinion on which film deserves the highest award in the global film industry - the Oscar.  If other nominations have already existed for decades with virtually no changes, then such a vote is, of course, a new way to determine the winner, I think over the years it will take root and will exist.  
Because it is the development of information technology.

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March 07, 2022, 04:11:02 PM
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I was thinking of the gambling implication of this. What if somebody places a huge bet, say, a million or two, on a particular film and then activates all kinds of bots and thousands of fake Twitter accounts that could spam the platform of votes 20 times a day every single day from the beginning of voting until the end? In other words, is this open for manipulation?

Most likely, the organizers have made some kind of protection against cheating, plus it is unlikely that any bookmaker will accept a huge bet, and then "do not notice" that the voting results are suspicious. So there is no chance to make money here.
What I'm wondering is, is there really no community that likes to joke (reddit, 2ch or whatever) organizes to make the voting results absurd just for fun?
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March 07, 2022, 04:40:54 PM
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^

I mean the blue icon indicating that the account is authentic. No bot owner would be in the business of getting such badges so it would be a good solution to weed out bots in voting.

In fact I think Twitter is very centralized and censored so I wouldn't do such voting there at all. You need a completely decentralized platform for this kind of thing.

You are contradicting yourself. How will you prevent abuse on a decentralized platform? Those who have the technical capacity to create millions of bots will win there. I think the best movie is the one that the audience votes for with their money/time - so the box office and the number of views should be the main indicators.

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March 07, 2022, 05:12:47 PM
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I mean the blue icon indicating that the account is authentic. No bot owner would be in the business of getting such badges so it would be a good solution to weed out bots in voting.

In fact I think Twitter is very centralized and censored so I wouldn't do such voting there at all. You need a completely decentralized platform for this kind of thing.
It will be even more interesting to watch how they will then deal with what result was screwed up by bots or some other tricky methods.  And then there will be lawsuits.  Who is right, who is wrong, and as a result, everyone will get so confused that you won’t understand at all who really is the main favorite of this vote.  And how to be a bookmaker if someone disputes the winnings.  The bookmaker will have to somehow try to collect the money back.  This is unrealistic and will not work.  In short, complete insanity.

You are contradicting yourself. How will you prevent abuse on a decentralized platform? Those who have the technical capacity to create millions of bots will win there. I think the best movie is the one that the audience votes for with their money/time - so the box office and the number of views should be the main indicators.
It will be even more interesting to watch how they will then deal with what result was screwed up by bots or some other tricky methods. And then there will be lawsuits. Who is right, who is wrong, and as a result, everyone will get so confused that you won’t understand at all who really is the main favorite of this vote. And how to be a bookmaker if someone disputes the winnings.
The bookmaker will have to somehow try to collect the money back.
This is unrealistic and will not work. In short, complete insanity.

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March 07, 2022, 10:17:17 PM
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I mean the blue icon indicating that the account is authentic. No bot owner would be in the business of getting such badges so it would be a good solution to weed out bots in voting.

In fact I think Twitter is very centralized and censored so I wouldn't do such voting there at all. You need a completely decentralized platform for this kind of thing.

After this event, we will see if they are successful in handling this type of award in Oscars.
They will also see if it is worth to hold an award voted by the community.
As of now, I haven't seen any sportsbook giving a betting line for this fan-favorite film of the year via twitter.
Only the regular categories are included in the Oscars' betting lines.
This could either mean that people are not really interested in this kind of award to the point the casinos are not offering a bet on it, or they are so worried about the results being manipulated they cannot give accurate odds to this and as such they are refusing to offer the bet to the public.

Maybe if they see everything turns out fine this year and the award is also given next year then they could be interested on offering a bet during the next award ceremony.
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March 07, 2022, 11:22:54 PM
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There's a high possibility that the results will be manipulated. Nowadays, we all know up to what extent technology can do. Almost everything is possible with the help of technology and innovation. If the Oscar's would really resort to such voting, there's a big chance that they will get a controlled results because of bots and surge of multiple, new accounts just for the sake of voting. Wayback, facebook auto like is a thing and that was like year 2009. What more now that we are in much modern and advanced world. Maybe they could try to team up with twitter to filter the accounts that will tweet and vote. Then let twitter do its way to clean up and ban those multiple accounts that are mainly used for the sake of voting and trolling.

Regards to gambling, I think this method wouldn't be adopted by the casinos because it's really risky and there's so many loopholes. Anyone can take advantage and abuse it which could cause disruption of casino's ecosystem and loss of projected income.
They are already teamed up with twitter by the time they do this and twitter know's what to do to minimize cheating. I think we cant compare twitter to facebook because in my opinion twitter is much stricter and they can control bots and other forms of abuse when compared to facebook but we don't know maybe facebook have improve their security now that are not new anymore. Oscars knows the risk and they think of that before they decided this idea but they have a trust with twitter.

Now, a gambling platform can do the same as well. They need to trust twitter with their voting system and all will be just fine and fair. I am excited for this.

But is there a casino/sportsbook which is including this category? I am seeing the usual categories but this twitter-based category is not yet included. Don't know if a crypto bookie will include this betting line anyway. Because they might not get enough attention to include this in their line-up. Twitter is a popular platform among millennials, so they can definitely get audience but for the betting line of this category, I don't think they can.
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March 08, 2022, 05:31:06 PM
 #58

You are contradicting yourself. How will you prevent abuse on a decentralized platform? Those who have the technical capacity to create millions of bots will win there. I think the best movie is the one that the audience votes for with their money/time - so the box office and the number of views should be the main indicators.
It will be even more interesting to watch how they will then deal with what result was screwed up by bots or some other tricky methods. And then there will be lawsuits. Who is right, who is wrong, and as a result, everyone will get so confused that you won’t understand at all who really is the main favorite of this vote. And how to be a bookmaker if someone disputes the winnings.
The bookmaker will have to somehow try to collect the money back.
This is unrealistic and will not work. In short, complete insanity.

Bookmakers have no problem with this - according to the rules of service, all their decisions are final and the player agrees to this in advance. If there are any incomprehensible contradictory or suspicious situations, the bookmakers declare the events to be void and return bets with odds of 1.

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March 09, 2022, 06:35:42 AM
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But is there a casino/sportsbook which is including this category? I am seeing the usual categories but this twitter-based category is not yet included. Don't know if a crypto bookie will include this betting line anyway. Because they might not get enough attention to include this in their line-up. Twitter is a popular platform among millennials, so they can definitely get audience but for the betting line of this category, I don't think they can.

I also haven't seen any bookies offering odds on the new twitter category yet. Maybe it's too early and they want to see how it plays out this year. I am sure that if this new category attracts enough attention its going to be a permanent new category for the Oscars. People are used to watching shorter shows these days, so watching a night of Academy Awards needs to find new ways to remain interesting, especially with covid pandemic reducing the number of good movies being released. I find this new category more interesting than the experts choosing their favourite. Bookies should pick up this new trend and include it in their odds, as long as the voting on twitter can't be manipulated.
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March 09, 2022, 12:31:27 PM
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You are contradicting yourself. How will you prevent abuse on a decentralized platform? Those who have the technical capacity to create millions of bots will win there. I think the best movie is the one that the audience votes for with their money/time - so the box office and the number of views should be the main indicators.
It will be even more interesting to watch how they will then deal with what result was screwed up by bots or some other tricky methods. And then there will be lawsuits. Who is right, who is wrong, and as a result, everyone will get so confused that you won’t understand at all who really is the main favorite of this vote. And how to be a bookmaker if someone disputes the winnings.
The bookmaker will have to somehow try to collect the money back.
This is unrealistic and will not work. In short, complete insanity.

Bookmakers have no problem with this - according to the rules of service, all their decisions are final and the player agrees to this in advance. If there are any incomprehensible contradictory or suspicious situations, the bookmakers declare the events to be void and return bets with odds of 1.
Yeah.  This is clear. 
Here it is interesting what happens when it becomes clear that voting through Twitter is somehow rigged by bots or in some other way.  And then they will begin to figure out where the right legitimate votes are, and where these are bots.  And as a result, I think they will not be able to fully figure it out.  And it turns out that the film sort of won, but it seems like it didn’t.  And for his competitor as well. 

In short, there will be two great films worth watching.  Or even three. Smiley

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