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February 24, 2022, 03:15:03 AM
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February 24, 2022, 05:21:18 AM
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What kind of service you specifically offering here? Is this a tipster with 64% win rate or a Casino for sports betting
It seems like he offers tipsters but only for 2 types of sports only.

Have never used tipster service and also bet on the UFC if you are pleased can give proof about your experience service because your winrate high enough and also the odds as well, although I know there is no guarantee of profit betting at any odds including low ones.

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February 24, 2022, 06:04:33 AM
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I am not too trusted with a guaranteed profit because it looks suspicious and how if we lose? Do they guarantee to refund the loss?
Maybe @OP can change the "guaranteed profit" sentence to other things that will not look too good to be true or could be like "profit together" or others.
Full refund is usual in any service but not many of them can really give that if something worst happen because usually, many of them are run away if the things are not running as promised.
If @OP has had many winnings before, maybe he can share here or share his tip to us for a while to show that he has skills in UFC so it will not look like a shady service.

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February 24, 2022, 07:58:43 AM
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Bets, predictions, profits, guarantees, win rate, everything you've collected, what the heck, what do you mean, do you want to put the community here, in the eye of the needle.

What's strange to me about your offer and account is: you registered April 2016, where have you been for 7 years, did you delete your post, I suspect you are trying to deceive the community.
There's the same topic you made about predictions here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383820.msg59126500#msg59126500, and you delete it, what do you really want, looks like you want to put us through the eye of a pin, beware of the BrawlBets site.

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February 24, 2022, 08:57:43 AM
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This really looks shady just from the first sight. But if OP could justify what he is offering is true and his intentions are pure, backed up by some proofs of previous or current transactions and all, then maybe this could be reconsidered. Otherwise, I don’t think that we should entertain this type of offers, especially that @YOSHIE was able to find something off with OP’s account and activity. I hope OP would go back here and defend himself at the very least, and try to clarify things out.

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February 24, 2022, 10:52:53 AM
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Do you have lists of your previous bets as a proof in your discord group? I haven't checked your group yet. Also, I am not familiar with UFC and Combat sports they don't have daily match and fights right so how frequent you give your prediction or tips? how many weeks in average you give tips? once a day? 3-5 tips per week?

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February 24, 2022, 11:10:02 AM
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What kind of service you specifically offering here? Is this a tipster with 64% win rate or a Casino for sports betting. Give full details of this Brawlbets because it looks like a tipster thread only.

A guaranteed profit and full refund offer is too good to be true on this kind of services since this is still gambling no matter how high your winning percentage. I don't know how you can assure a guaranteed profit while offering only 64% win rate. This is too shady to be true.

They are the gambling version of the trading signal I also don't believe in a full refund and guaranteed income, there's a lot of risk in a too good to be true offer because it's not existing in gambling, this is gambling where you only play with money that you can afford to lose, OP is saying that you have no way to lose, which is not realistic.

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February 24, 2022, 11:52:10 AM
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What kind of service you specifically offering here? Is this a tipster with 64% win rate or a Casino for sports betting. Give full details of this Brawlbets because it looks like a tipster thread only.

A guaranteed profit and full refund offer is too good to be true on this kind of services since this is still gambling no matter how high your winning percentage. I don't know how you can assure a guaranteed profit while offering only 64% win rate. This is too shady to be true.

They are the gambling version of the trading signal I also don't believe in a full refund and guaranteed income, there's a lot of risk in a too good to be true offer because it's not existing in gambling, this is gambling where you only play with money that you can afford to lose, OP is saying that you have no way to lose, which is not realistic.

I see so this is an obvious scam since they are blatantly claiming for a guaranteed profit in gambling just to attract players that will avail there service, There monthly premium is pretty which is scary because some newbie here might tempted on there too good to be true service with just a low premium. I hope that DT can take action on this kind of offer before this shady offer escalate and victimize newbie gamblers here. I saw many tipster premium group on telegram but no one offers things like this.

We are all in one in saying that this is an obvious scam, he must prove to us that it's not really one if they can provide us proof that they are not, their win rate although not that high but how can they guarantee profit or refund, no casino or tipster however good they are, will offer this kind of deal, I hope nobody will be victimize by this kind of scheme.

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February 24, 2022, 12:06:00 PM
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Sorry OP many people will not going to believe you, it is easy to tell that you have 64% win rate also, why would  we believe you if you have no history of betting or proofs of your claim so we can easily assume that you are doing this to take advantage to desperate people and newbies and how's the autobet feature? How's that going to work? through API or what?

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February 24, 2022, 12:45:03 PM
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Based on your previous bets on your Discord server as well as on this site you include on Discord of your full stats: https://bettin.gs/BrawlBets you already have 50+% ROI but it is only 22 bets. I don't see any free picks on the server I think you should add on it too to attract players but because the fighting matches are limited, you are not able to give free tips. Well I think that's a little bit expensive for a few matches a week but good luck with your business.


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February 24, 2022, 05:26:20 PM
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Going respond to all so bare with me here.

What kind of service you specifically offering here? Is this a tipster with 64% win rate or a Casino for sports betting. Give full details of this Brawlbets because it looks like a tipster thread only.

A guaranteed profit and full refund offer is too good to be true on this kind of services since this is still gambling no matter how high your winning percentage. I don't know how you can assure a guaranteed profit while offering only 64% win rate. This is too shady to be true.

Yes, I guarantee profit. If you do not profit from our services in your subscription timeframe we will offer you your choice of full refund (in the amount of coins you sent us not cash value) or extension in your subscription until you are back in the green/break even.

I am not too trusted with a guaranteed profit because it looks suspicious and how if we lose? Do they guarantee to refund the loss?
Maybe @OP can change the "guaranteed profit" sentence to other things that will not look too good to be true or could be like "profit together" or others.
Full refund is usual in any service but not many of them can really give that if something worst happen because usually, many of them are run away if the things are not running as promised.
If @OP has had many winnings before, maybe he can share here or share his tip to us for a while to show that he has skills in UFC so it will not look like a shady service.

Pretty much same as I said before we don't refund losses we will however refund the fee of using the service or extend until you profit. All payments go to a wallet that I will not touch and you will get the amount of coins you paid back. Not cash value due to fluctuating crypto prices. If you pay 0.025 eth you will get 0.025 eth back if you don't profit by end of subscription

Bets, predictions, profits, guarantees, win rate, everything you've collected, what the heck, what do you mean, do you want to put the community here, in the eye of the needle.

What's strange to me about your offer and account is: you registered April 2016, where have you been for 7 years, did you delete your post, I suspect you are trying to deceive the community.
There's the same topic you made about predictions here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383820.msg59126500#msg59126500, and you delete it, what do you really want, looks like you want to put us through the eye of a pin, beware of the BrawlBets site.

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Yes I removed the thread to redesign it as stated in the thread that was removed. I do own BrawlBets.com and will be taking it down shortly as we just moved to Discord. Used to have a Telegram bot to send predictions but Discord is just easier.

This really looks shady just from the first sight. But if OP could justify what he is offering is true and his intentions are pure, backed up by some proofs of previous or current transactions and all, then maybe this could be reconsidered. Otherwise, I don’t think that we should entertain this type of offers, especially that @YOSHIE was able to find something off with OP’s account and activity. I hope OP would go back here and defend himself at the very least, and try to clarify things out.

My account is old, made it long ago before I started this service. All proof of results is posted in the discord with screenshots from Stake.com with profit. I'd be more than happy to post them here as well if requested.

Do you have lists of your previous bets as a proof in your discord group? I haven't checked your group yet. Also, I am not familiar with UFC and Combat sports they don't have daily match and fights right so how frequent you give your prediction or tips? how many weeks in average you give tips? once a day? 3-5 tips per week?

Yes they are in the Results section in the Discord. Matches are done basically weekly, and they can include anywhere from 2-6 picks. Mostly UFC but sometimes if Bellator looks good I will put out some predictions.

What kind of service you specifically offering here? Is this a tipster with 64% win rate or a Casino for sports betting. Give full details of this Brawlbets because it looks like a tipster thread only.

A guaranteed profit and full refund offer is too good to be true on this kind of services since this is still gambling no matter how high your winning percentage. I don't know how you can assure a guaranteed profit while offering only 64% win rate. This is too shady to be true.

They are the gambling version of the trading signal I also don't believe in a full refund and guaranteed income, there's a lot of risk in a too good to be true offer because it's not existing in gambling, this is gambling where you only play with money that you can afford to lose, OP is saying that you have no way to lose, which is not realistic.

Now I am not saying we won't lose matches, we haven't yet as a service but we 100% will have losing days. However, I've been doing this professionally for 4 years and have never had a losing season. I've had seasons where I've only won a little bit but never in the red. Now I know that is only 4 seasons, but as mentions before I will provide a full refund of the service payment in the event you don't profit or I will offer extension of subscription until you profit.



What kind of service you specifically offering here? Is this a tipster with 64% win rate or a Casino for sports betting. Give full details of this Brawlbets because it looks like a tipster thread only.

A guaranteed profit and full refund offer is too good to be true on this kind of services since this is still gambling no matter how high your winning percentage. I don't know how you can assure a guaranteed profit while offering only 64% win rate. This is too shady to be true.

They are the gambling version of the trading signal I also don't believe in a full refund and guaranteed income, there's a lot of risk in a too good to be true offer because it's not existing in gambling, this is gambling where you only play with money that you can afford to lose, OP is saying that you have no way to lose, which is not realistic.

I see so this is an obvious scam since they are blatantly claiming for a guaranteed profit in gambling just to attract players that will avail there service, There monthly premium is pretty which is scary because some newbie here might tempted on there too good to be true service with just a low premium. I hope that DT can take action on this kind of offer before this shady offer escalate and victimize newbie gamblers here. I saw many tipster premium group on telegram but no one offers things like this.

Once again if you checked discord it states:
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If you do not profit from our services in your subscription timeframe we will offer you your choice of full refund (in the amount of coins you sent us not cash value) or extension in your subscription until you are back in the green/break even.

What kind of service you specifically offering here? Is this a tipster with 64% win rate or a Casino for sports betting. Give full details of this Brawlbets because it looks like a tipster thread only.

A guaranteed profit and full refund offer is too good to be true on this kind of services since this is still gambling no matter how high your winning percentage. I don't know how you can assure a guaranteed profit while offering only 64% win rate. This is too shady to be true.

They are the gambling version of the trading signal I also don't believe in a full refund and guaranteed income, there's a lot of risk in a too good to be true offer because it's not existing in gambling, this is gambling where you only play with money that you can afford to lose, OP is saying that you have no way to lose, which is not realistic.

I see so this is an obvious scam since they are blatantly claiming for a guaranteed profit in gambling just to attract players that will avail there service, There monthly premium is pretty which is scary because some newbie here might tempted on there too good to be true service with just a low premium. I hope that DT can take action on this kind of offer before this shady offer escalate and victimize newbie gamblers here. I saw many tipster premium group on telegram but no one offers things like this.

We are all in one in saying that this is an obvious scam, he must prove to us that it's not really one if they can provide us proof that they are not, their win rate although not that high but how can they guarantee profit or refund, no casino or tipster however good they are, will offer this kind of deal, I hope nobody will be victimize by this kind of scheme.

Proof is in discord under results.

Based on your previous bets on your Discord server as well as on this site you include on Discord of your full stats: https://bettin.gs/BrawlBets you already have 50+% ROI but it is only 22 bets. I don't see any free picks on the server I think you should add on it too to attract players but because the fighting matches are limited, you are not able to give free tips. Well I think that's a little bit expensive for a few matches a week but good luck with your business.

Thank you for the good luck. We just started free picks section in discord and posted a hockey game last night that did indeed win. Fighting matches are limited for sure, but in my years I've found it to be the safest and personally my strongest. The free picks will usually not be fights as my fight picks are in the members section.


Sorry OP many people will not going to believe you, it is easy to tell that you have 64% win rate also, why would  we believe you if you have no history of betting or proofs of your claim so we can easily assume that you are doing this to take advantage to desperate people and newbies and how's the autobet feature? How's that going to work? through API or what?

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You must provide us with your Stake.com API key and we will place all the bets for you using our unit program. YOU MUST ACTIVATE 2FA for your own safety. There is an extra cost to utilize Autobet which is an extra $20 on the price. You must also provide a dedicated proxy to use with your API key. We only do monthly as we do not know how long Stake will allow API usage. If Autobet was to stop for some reason you will be reimbursed the $20 and continue with a regular subscription.
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February 24, 2022, 05:56:28 PM
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Is 64% really a great win rate? Well, with 2.3+ odds, it's probably decent. But for betting in cricket, if I would record my last IPL bets, I guess I would be far higher than 64% though the odd were kinda low; most were from 1.80 to 2.3/2.4 zone. I guess I should have my service on betting tips created LOL.

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February 24, 2022, 06:10:27 PM
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Is 64% really a great win rate? Well, with 2.3+ odds, it's probably decent. But for betting in cricket, if I would record my last IPL bets, I guess I would be far higher than 64% though the odd were kinda low; most were from 1.80 to 2.3/2.4 zone. I guess I should have my service on betting tips created LOL.

64% Winrate with 2.3+ odds has gotten us roughly 40% ROI profit or 40 units in only 22 bets. Which has been 5 fights.

Say you do $100 a unit. You'd currently be up around $4.000 since January 21st-Feburary 20th (our last fight). A month of bets.

Let's say you only do $20 units or a bankroll of $2,000. You'd be up $800 well more than the 40$ price tag.
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Is 64% really a great win rate? Well, with 2.3+ odds, it's probably decent. But for betting in cricket, if I would record my last IPL bets, I guess I would be far higher than 64% though the odd were kinda low; most were from 1.80 to 2.3/2.4 zone. I guess I should have my service on betting tips created LOL.

64% Winrate with 2.3+ odds has gotten us roughly 40% ROI profit or 40 units in only 22 bets. Which has been 5 fights.

Say you do $100 a unit. You'd currently be up around $4.000 since January 21st-Feburary 20th (our last fight). A month of bets.

Let's say you only do $20 units or a bankroll of $2,000. You'd be up $800 well more than the 40$ price tag.

Curious here. I am not a member of your discord server but can you disclose how many active members so far are in your channel? Also, how many people are currently subscribe with your services, you can give rough estimate of numbers (like 50-100, if you don't want to give exact numbers). From your stats on your site, I think, it is too early to tell about the real profitability of your services. Though you are doing these for years as you mentioned. Maybe, we need more published bets not only 22. I suggest you continue to publish your bets in the next coming months so people can see your performance.
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February 24, 2022, 07:59:41 PM
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Is 64% really a great win rate? Well, with 2.3+ odds, it's probably decent. But for betting in cricket, if I would record my last IPL bets, I guess I would be far higher than 64% though the odd were kinda low; most were from 1.80 to 2.3/2.4 zone. I guess I should have my service on betting tips created LOL.

64% Winrate with 2.3+ odds has gotten us roughly 40% ROI profit or 40 units in only 22 bets. Which has been 5 fights.

Say you do $100 a unit. You'd currently be up around $4.000 since January 21st-Feburary 20th (our last fight). A month of bets.

Let's say you only do $20 units or a bankroll of $2,000. You'd be up $800 well more than the 40$ price tag.

Curious here. I am not a member of your discord server but can you disclose how many active members so far are in your channel? Also, how many people are currently subscribe with your services, you can give rough estimate of numbers (like 50-100, if you don't want to give exact numbers). From your stats on your site, I think, it is too early to tell about the real profitability of your services. Though you are doing these for years as you mentioned. Maybe, we need more published bets not only 22. I suggest you continue to publish your bets in the next coming months so people can see your performance.

We are a brand new service. We have a total of 4 members right now. We started Jan 21st.

I will continually place bets does not matter how many members I have. If I can help 1 person make profit, I'd be perfectly happy.

I personally play every single bet I suggest and make enough money to do it as my job which I am forever thankful for.

I do not publish every bet I play besides fight bets. Every now and then I'll put a play I think has value in free picks.

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February 24, 2022, 08:37:29 PM
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^ Publishing your bet and showing proof that you have successfully made a profit on any gambling casino platform would be better to have interest from others who are possibly your subscriber soon. Or, a free pick for betting shows proof that there is a chance to gain profit in a long term, not only the day they subscribe to your service. Because people think that if you make a profit on this why not just do it to yourself and make a profit on your own.
Nevertheless, good luck with your service offered but to tell you frankly, this needs to build trust first and show to them your legitimacy.
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^ Publishing your bet and showing proof that you have successfully made a profit on any gambling casino platform would be better to have interest from others who are possibly your subscriber soon. Or, a free pick for betting shows proof that there is a chance to gain profit in a long term, not only the day they subscribe to your service. Because people think that if you make a profit on this why not just do it to yourself and make a profit on your own.
Nevertheless, good luck with your service offered but to tell you frankly, this needs to build trust first and show to them your legitimacy.

That is correct. It is all listed on the discord channel. Has a free picks section, results section, FAQ section, Testimonial section, and more.

If you joined you would see this. Thank you for the good luck.
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The problem I have with subscription services are this...

You can prolong the payment for 1000s of people until the subscription period ends... so a long con is possible. When things goes wrong before that, people do not have a exit to recover their funds.. and you can say that they have to wait until the subscription expire for them to claim back their subscription. (That said, the $40 per month option is a good option to test this service)

Why do we have to make use of the Proxy services, if we signup for this service... What do we have to hide?

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Pretty much same as I said before we don't refund losses we will however refund the fee of using the service or extend until you profit. All payments go to a wallet that I will not touch and you will get the amount of coins you paid back. Not cash value due to fluctuating crypto prices. If you pay 0.025 eth you will get 0.025 eth back if you don't profit by end of subscription

It's difficult for me to believe in what you are stating.
Do you use some trusted escrow or a 2-2 multisig wallet?I don't believe promises made by people,who are saying that they will "not touch" coins,which are being held in their own cryptocurrency wallet.Sounds suspicious to me.
I don't trust screenshots of "winning bets" as well.Screenshots can be faked via inspect element in every browser.
Tipster services have always been shady for me.Perhaps you could another way to prove that you are legit.

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I tried to list something before deciding to join with you.
The subscription fee will be $40/month, the extra cost to utilize Autobet, which has $20, a dedicated proxy that can vary depending on what country you will use, let say, we manage a budget of $15-$20/month.
So the total cost for that will be $40+$20+20 but I do not know if we need to have a balance on our account in every bet they will make.
If yes, there is need more budget and let's say, we use $20 for a month, the total cost will be $100 in a month and $20 for placing a bet for a month in sports betting is too small Grin
But I do not know the right calculation, I just figured it out by myself and maybe that is wrong.

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My account is old, made it long ago before I started this service. All proof of results is posted in the discord with screenshots from Stake.com with profit. I'd be more than happy to post them here as well if requested.

Thank you for responding, OP. I’ll be checking your channel at discord. But on behalf of those who are not really willing to go through It to see the results you are mentioning, I guess it is also good to post them here so readers can see those here on your thread immediately.

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February 25, 2022, 02:31:20 PM
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Am always jittery when it comes to this kind of service I have relied on correct score betting subscription before I still remember my ugly experience so am now skeptical on this mind of services maybe if you are willing to share more evidence of proven winning that may help a little in convincing us.
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February 25, 2022, 04:55:12 PM
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I tried to list something before deciding to join with you.
The subscription fee will be $40/month, the extra cost to utilize Autobet, which has $20, a dedicated proxy that can vary depending on what country you will use, let say, we manage a budget of $15-$20/month.
So the total cost for that will be $40+$20+20 but I do not know if we need to have a balance on our account in every bet they will make.
If yes, there is need more budget and let's say, we use $20 for a month, the total cost will be $100 in a month and $20 for placing a bet for a month in sports betting is too small Grin
But I do not know the right calculation, I just figured it out by myself and maybe that is wrong.

You don't have to use Autobet, also for $8, you can purchase a dedicated proxy from IPBurger. I would recommend a minimum bankroll of $1,000.

The problem I have with subscription services are this...

You can prolong the payment for 1000s of people until the subscription period ends... so a long con is possible. When things goes wrong before that, people do not have a exit to recover their funds.. and you can say that they have to wait until the subscription expire for them to claim back their subscription. (That said, the $40 per month option is a good option to test this service)

Why do we have to make use of the Proxy services, if we signup for this service... What do we have to hide?

The proxy is for Autobet, since I will be making bets for you using my program, and the bets will originate from your IP or an IP in your region. Furthermore, the extension is entirely up to the individual; they can opt for a complete refund at the conclusion of the subscription rather than an extension till profit. I doubt I'll ever get 1000 subscribers, which is uncommon in this sort of service.

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Pretty much same as I said before we don't refund losses we will however refund the fee of using the service or extend until you profit. All payments go to a wallet that I will not touch and you will get the amount of coins you paid back. Not cash value due to fluctuating crypto prices. If you pay 0.025 eth you will get 0.025 eth back if you don't profit by end of subscription


It's difficult for me to believe in what you are stating.
Do you use some trusted escrow or a 2-2 multisig wallet?I don't believe promises made by people,who are saying that they will "not touch" coins,which are being held in their own cryptocurrency wallet.Sounds suspicious to me.
I don't trust screenshots of "winning bets" as well.Screenshots can be faked via inspect element in every browser.
Tipster services have always been shady for me.Perhaps you could another way to prove that you are legit.


Sure, that's understandable. I'd be ready to create a multisig wallet of some form, but the problem is that they could refuse to deliver it to me once the service has ended. It would have to be on a trust basis, but I understand your concern. I'll go through today and start posting Stake.com URLs that demonstrate whether or not the bet was official and won or lost. That, along with the existing screenshots, will be added today. Thank you for making the suggestion.

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My account is old, made it long ago before I started this service. All proof of results is posted in the discord with screenshots from Stake.com with profit. I'd be more than happy to post them here as well if requested.

Thank you for responding, OP. I’ll be checking your channel at discord. But on behalf of those who are not really willing to go through It to see the results you are mentioning, I guess it is also good to post them here so readers can see those here on your thread immediately.

Of course I will respond to all posts on here. As mentioned above in another reply I will be posting the stake.com links to the bets in the results channel to further show they were made.

Am always jittery when it comes to this kind of service I have relied on correct score betting subscription before I still remember my ugly experience so am now skeptical on this mind of services maybe if you are willing to share more evidence of proven winning that may help a little in convincing us.

Checkout the #results channel in about 1-2 hours after I update them all with stake.com links.
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February 25, 2022, 05:16:14 PM
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Pretty much same as I said before we don't refund losses we will however refund the fee of using the service or extend until you profit. All payments go to a wallet that I will not touch and you will get the amount of coins you paid back. Not cash value due to fluctuating crypto prices. If you pay 0.025 eth you will get 0.025 eth back if you don't profit by end of subscription

It's difficult for me to believe in what you are stating.
Do you use some trusted escrow or a 2-2 multisig wallet?I don't believe promises made by people,who are saying that they will "not touch" coins,which are being held in their own cryptocurrency wallet.Sounds suspicious to me.
I don't trust screenshots of "winning bets" as well.Screenshots can be faked via inspect element in every browser.
Tipster services have always been shady for me.Perhaps you could another way to prove that you are legit.

If they can prove what they are stating then I am going tojuse their service. This is more like a service to me rather than a site where I can bet. Also about what YOSHIE provided made me think twice if ever I would trust this or not plus they are using discord which in my opinion didn't express the feeling of using this service with doing best effort to have this kind of service for bettors to use or to avail. When op will clarify what YOSHIE provided then they can clear their name or service or whatever they call it.

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February 25, 2022, 05:33:35 PM
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Bets, predictions, profits, guarantees, win rate, everything you've collected, what the heck, what do you mean, do you want to put the community here, in the eye of the needle.

What's strange to me about your offer and account is: you registered April 2016, where have you been for 7 years, did you delete your post, I suspect you are trying to deceive the community.
There's the same topic you made about predictions here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383820.msg59126500#msg59126500, and you delete it, what do you really want, looks like you want to put us through the eye of a pin, beware of the BrawlBets site.

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Pretty much same as I said before we don't refund losses we will however refund the fee of using the service or extend until you profit. All payments go to a wallet that I will not touch and you will get the amount of coins you paid back. Not cash value due to fluctuating crypto prices. If you pay 0.025 eth you will get 0.025 eth back if you don't profit by end of subscription

It's difficult for me to believe in what you are stating.
Do you use some trusted escrow or a 2-2 multisig wallet?I don't believe promises made by people,who are saying that they will "not touch" coins,which are being held in their own cryptocurrency wallet.Sounds suspicious to me.
I don't trust screenshots of "winning bets" as well.Screenshots can be faked via inspect element in every browser.
Tipster services have always been shady for me.Perhaps you could another way to prove that you are legit.

If they can prove what they are stating then I am going tojuse their service. This is more like a service to me rather than a site where I can bet. Also about what YOSHIE provided made me think twice if ever I would trust this or not plus they are using discord which in my opinion didn't express the feeling of using this service with doing best effort to have this kind of service for bettors to use or to avail. When op will clarify what YOSHIE provided then they can clear their name or service or whatever they call it.

I thought I had covered this thoroughly, but let me go over it again to put everyone's mind at ease.

It was a terrible thread design, and we used to utilize the website (https://brawlbets.com), which is still up and running since some people haven't gone over yet, but we'll be shutting it down after this weekend's UFC bout.

The previous thread was merely a picture that I couldn't publish, as you can see in the comments on the original topic where someone advises I acquire Copper Membership. We've now gone to Discord, and I simply wanted to make a new topic because we won't be utilizing an image anymore. In addition, every proof has been provided to the discord results, including with official links from Stake.com.

That's all there is to it. I wanted to start a new topic because we've transitioned to Discord and introduced the Autobet option.
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Thank you for your explanation. It makes sense to have 64% win rate. But what if it couldn’t? Will you compensate if the gambler follow your signals? I'm not really sure whether your statement is true or not but 64% success rate with 2.3+ odds. Will have an eyes.

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Thank you for your explanation. It makes sense to have 64% win rate. But what if it couldn’t? Will you compensate if the gambler follow your signals? I'm not really sure whether your statement is true or not but 64% success rate with 2.3+ odds. Will have an eyes.

I will not pay back losses but I will pay back the subscription fee if you don't profit.

EDIT: Or offer an extension if you'd rather stay with us until you do profit.
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How can you possibly guarantee profits? What are the caveats with that?

If you could guarantee profits, then why not just use these strategies yourself instead of leaking them to a third party for a few bucks a day and risk having the inefficiency pulled from you by the sportsbook?

~20 bets alone is not enough to say that you are profitable from what I can see. This could just be due to short term variance.
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February 26, 2022, 11:15:47 AM
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Thank you for your explanation. It makes sense to have 64% win rate. But what if it couldn’t? Will you compensate if the gambler follow your signals? I'm not really sure whether your statement is true or not but 64% success rate with 2.3+ odds. Will have an eyes.

I will not pay back losses but I will pay back the subscription fee if you don't profit.

EDIT: Or offer an extension if you'd rather stay with us until you do profit.

I feel like that this is not what the OP suggests?

OP makes it seem like that you are going to be refunded any of your losses as well. Obviously it makes your claims a bit more legitimate if you are only planning on refunding the subscription fee, but people would still be losing their capital and risking potentially their savings.

Do you have any other proof that you are profitable over the long term? Do you have any ongoing picks that you have won recently?

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How can you possibly guarantee profits? What are the caveats with that?

If you could guarantee profits, then why not just use these strategies yourself instead of leaking them to a third party for a few bucks a day and risk having the inefficiency pulled from you by the sportsbook?

~20 bets alone is not enough to say that you are profitable from what I can see. This could just be due to short term variance.

I'm not claiming you'll make a profit. I'm stating that if you don't make a profit, I'll return your monthly fee.
I already make a career by betting at Las Vegas casinos in person (Most the time using their online systems). There is no harm done to me in any way if I publish picks for people; it isn't a system that can get overloaded saturated or anything like that. All it will do is help users profit while earning me a little additional money each month on the side. It's a win-win situation.

By all means wait until more picks are posted. I have to start somewhere with the service won't claim the profits in the past 4 years made when the service wasn't in existence.

Thank you for your explanation. It makes sense to have 64% win rate. But what if it couldn’t? Will you compensate if the gambler follow your signals? I'm not really sure whether your statement is true or not but 64% success rate with 2.3+ odds. Will have an eyes.

I will not pay back losses but I will pay back the subscription fee if you don't profit.

EDIT: Or offer an extension if you'd rather stay with us until you do profit.

I feel like that this is not what the OP suggests?

OP makes it seem like that you are going to be refunded any of your losses as well. Obviously it makes your claims a bit more legitimate if you are only planning on refunding the subscription fee, but people would still be losing their capital and risking potentially their savings.

Do you have any other proof that you are profitable over the long term? Do you have any ongoing picks that you have won recently?

Where do I propose that I recoup your losses? The only thing the thread states is "PROFIT GUARANTEED OR FULL REFUND," and on Discord it reads:

"If you do not profit from our services in your subscription timeframe we will offer you your choice of full refund of subscription fee (in the amount of coins you sent us not cash value) or extension in your subscription until you are back in the green/break even."

I have never said that I will pay back your losses. That would be a ridiculous assertion to make. There will be losses in wagering, but if they occur for you before the conclusion of your membership, you will receive your subscription price back. Which hardly no tipper can provide. But at BrawlBets we do provide that.

EDIT: I went ahead and added it to the main thread as well.
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February 26, 2022, 05:30:37 PM
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Thank you for your explanation. It makes sense to have 64% win rate. But what if it couldn’t? Will you compensate if the gambler follow your signals? I'm not really sure whether your statement is true or not but 64% success rate with 2.3+ odds. Will have an eyes.

I will not pay back losses but I will pay back the subscription fee if you don't profit.

EDIT: Or offer an extension if you'd rather stay with us until you do profit.

Your winning rate looks good but there is a big risk of losing funds. This means that those who will buy your subscription may lose their funds after buying your prediction, because there is a good chance that your prediction will fail. Now I am wondering how helpful it will be for that user to refund your subscription after losing his large amount of funds.

Those who purchase this subscription should be aware of the risks involved.

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So I did a research if what are the win chance of 2.3 odds and it shows 43% but you offer 64% win rate here. The chance to win is now going to be high when we avail this service. What games does the autobet feature support? Not sports betting I believe? Because, the match are not happening in an instant, no need to use auto bet in this type of games.

I like how you offer a refund. This ensures that your serious with this business but costumers will always demand for the money back and not the extension option because what if they can lose again after the extension, they will going to extend again till they hit a profit? That will be a lot of cost and will show that your tips are not accurate.
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So I did a research if what are the win chance of 2.3 odds and it shows 43% but you offer 64% win rate here. The chance to win is now going to be high when we avail this service. What games does the autobet feature support? Not sports betting I believe? Because, the match are not happening in an instant, no need to use auto bet in this type of games.

I like how you offer a refund. This ensures that your serious with this business but costumers will always demand for the money back and not the extension option because what if they can lose again after the extension, they will going to extend again till they hit a profit? That will be a lot of cost and will show that your tips are not accurate.

The win rate claimed is what we are currently achieving. If you look into results you will see that. If it changes majorly I have no issue updating this thread. EDIT: I've added that to the thread as well.

We will not push the extension onto customers it is completely up to the user. If they'd rather have the refund I will give it no questions asked if they don't profit.

Autobet isn't needed at all its just a fun thing we offer for those who don't even want to have to worry about placing the bets or the amount of bankroll they should use. When we post the predictions we always include a link directly to the bet in stake so all the user has to do is click "Add to betslip".

Thank you for your explanation. It makes sense to have 64% win rate. But what if it couldn’t? Will you compensate if the gambler follow your signals? I'm not really sure whether your statement is true or not but 64% success rate with 2.3+ odds. Will have an eyes.

I will not pay back losses but I will pay back the subscription fee if you don't profit.

EDIT: Or offer an extension if you'd rather stay with us until you do profit.

Your winning rate looks good but there is a big risk of losing funds. This means that those who will buy your subscription may lose their funds after buying your prediction, because there is a good chance that your prediction will fail. Now I am wondering how helpful it will be for that user to refund your subscription after losing his large amount of funds.

Those who purchase this subscription should be aware of the risks involved.

Yes it is gambling. Losses can and will occur. However as mentioned before I am a professional who does this for a living. Every bet I call I personally play. There is a disclaimer now in the FAQ section that mentions the risk of losing funds. Thanks you for the suggestion!
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Not a whole lot of profit last night but still profit. +3.4 units 2 wins 1 loss
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+43% ROI in the month of February!
$4,300 for 100$ betters
$430 for 10$ betters
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+43% ROI in the month of February!
$4,300 for 100$ betters
$430 for 10$ betters

Not a bad profit. May I ask are you only placing bets through in fighting matches and not other type of sports? Wouldn't that be much profitable if you include other matches or your specialty is only in this sports? I will try to see the results in March and I will test your service for 1 month and lets see how it goes may I ask what kind of bet is your betting strategy let's say I bet $10 and it lose then do I need to increase my next bet? or it is consistent $10?

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+43% ROI in the month of February!
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Not a bad profit. May I ask are you only placing bets through in fighting matches and not other type of sports? Wouldn't that be much profitable if you include other matches or your specialty is only in this sports? I will try to see the results in March and I will test your service for 1 month and lets see how it goes may I ask what kind of bet is your betting strategy let's say I bet $10 and it lose then do I need to increase my next bet? or it is consistent $10?

Yes, as of right now, we only provide free premium picks for fighting matches and occasionally other sports in free picks. Fighting bets are my strongest, and I don't get much profit from the other sports, so they're more of a liability for me. However, we're in talks with another tipster who specializes in NBA and MLB to see if he'd like to join the team.

Bankroll management is important to long term success! I normally keep the same bankroll and increase it every 20% ROI or decrease it every -20% ROI.

So, if my bankroll is $1,000, 1 unit will cost $10. When my bankroll reaches $1,200, I'll boost my unit size to $12, and if it were to reach $800, I'd reduce it to $8.

However, because of my large bankroll, I don't do 1% units, instead I do 0.25 percent units. So, depending on the amount of your bankroll, you should change your unit percentage usage accordingly, for smaller bankroll accounts, I'd recommend no more than 1%.

I'm in it for the long haul, so I won't make any picks that I'm not 100% confident in, which is why I only offer fighting picks. Quality takes precedence over quantity.
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Wow, the truth is that they look very convincing with their service and also their success rate is well above 50%, which makes it very competitive with some other services that are similar, but I wonder something, this success rate that they manage keeps for how long? If in a possible war that occurs and has already been paid, there are no sporting events, in that case the subscription will be valid from the first moment the fights are resumed again? or do they refund?

Thank you very much.

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Wow, the truth is that they look very convincing with their service and also their success rate is well above 50%, which makes it very competitive with some other services that are similar, but I wonder something, this success rate that they manage keeps for how long? If in a possible war that occurs and has already been paid, there are no sporting events, in that case the subscription will be valid from the first moment the fights are resumed again? or do they refund?

Thank you very much.


We can't tell you what our win rate will be in the future; all we can tell you is what it is now.

We also have no way of knowing if a huge conflict or pandemic will strike again and shut down fights. If it gets to that we will decide how to handle it.
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So, if my bankroll is $1,000, 1 unit will cost $10. When my bankroll reaches $1,200, I'll boost my unit size to $12, and if it were to reach $800, I'd reduce it to $8.

Interesting bankroll management, I would consider doing that too just like what I have said I will try to look at the result in March first before subscribing. Would there be a discount for some users here in the forum?  Grin

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So, if my bankroll is $1,000, 1 unit will cost $10. When my bankroll reaches $1,200, I'll boost my unit size to $12, and if it were to reach $800, I'd reduce it to $8.

Interesting bankroll management, I would consider doing that too just like what I have said I will try to look at the result in March first before subscribing. Would there be a discount for some users here in the forum?  Grin

Sure, I'm in a terrific mood. Anyone who signs up during the month of March will receive a 25% discount ($29.99 for regular) or a free Autobet ($39.99 for autobet). It must be completed by the 15th of the month.
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Sure, I'm in a terrific mood. Anyone who signs up during the month of March will receive a 25% discount ($29.99 for regular) or a free Autobet ($39.99 for autobet). It must be completed by the 15th of the month.

I'm curious about the Autobet? How was that? I will provide my API? wouldn't that be risky to provide API to third party services? or do you software or website that will do it? I think that's interesting since you don't need to place bets manually or be late when you have given tips. So it will be a passive income.

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Sure, I'm in a terrific mood. Anyone who signs up during the month of March will receive a 25% discount ($29.99 for regular) or a free Autobet ($39.99 for autobet). It must be completed by the 15th of the month.

I'm curious about the Autobet? How was that? I will provide my API? wouldn't that be risky to provide API to third party services? or do you software or website that will do it? I think that's interesting since you don't need to place bets manually or be late when you have given tips. So it will be a passive income.

Here is the process for purchasing Autobet:

1. You pay (of course)
2. In the ticket, I'll ask for your stake API key.
3. I'll encrypt it with a private key in an encryption application (you can provide this if you want otherwise it will be randomly generated)
4. I'll send you the encrypted key, you may then erase your API key message.
5. Your key is no longer in my possession, and it's encrypted form has been entered into the software.
6. I ask you a few questions, such as whether you want free picks, what your unit percentage is, and whether you want to wager on our other tipster's picks, among other things. I also explain rules you must follow for your own protection.
7. The software runs as soon as I place the bet in my account, usually 10-30 minutes before I post to other members.
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Am always jittery when it comes to this kind of service I have relied on correct score betting subscription before I still remember my ugly experience so am now skeptical on this mind of services maybe if you are willing to share more evidence of proven winning that may help a little in convincing us.

I've also had a bad experience using this kind of service and I want to be careful in case I would try it with other sites again. As for me, providing concrete proof would be a good way to support this kind of service. At least evidences that they could really help players win through their service would be convincing.
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Am always jittery when it comes to this kind of service I have relied on correct score betting subscription before I still remember my ugly experience so am now skeptical on this mind of services maybe if you are willing to share more evidence of proven winning that may help a little in convincing us.

I've also had a bad experience using this kind of service and I want to be careful in case I would try it with other sites again. As for me, providing concrete proof would be a good way to support this kind of service. At least evidences that they could really help players win through their service would be convincing.

Discord has all of the evidence. It is 100 percent genuine and is provided through Stake.com links that verify the bet was made and was a certified win or loss.
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We've rebranded because we now provide more than simply fights.

Due to the fact that we operate on a daily basis, we can no longer guarantee a profit.

Those who signed up before the change will continue to receive it for the rest of their membership period.
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1. You pay (of course)
2. In the ticket, I'll ask for your stake API key.
3. I'll encrypt it with a private key in an encryption application (you can provide this if you want otherwise it will be randomly generated)
4. I'll send you the encrypted key, you may then erase your API key message.
5. Your key is no longer in my possession, and it's encrypted form has been entered into the software.
6. I ask you a few questions, such as whether you want free picks, what your unit percentage is, and whether you want to wager on our other tipster's picks, among other things. I also explain rules you must follow for your own protection.
7. The software runs as soon as I place the bet in my account, usually 10-30 minutes before I post to other members.


I think many wouldn't understand how this will work. A lot in here wants passive income hence wants to know more about your Autobetting services. It's kinda risky if they will provide you their Stake API key as such key can give access to their Stake account and let the keyholder call API methods such as make bets and etc. One thing to enlighten others how you would handle their key without you having a full control in it is that you either explain it in Infographic or video form.

As far as I can tell and base on my little knowledge about encryption is that you'll take their encrypted key and use it on software that will decrypt it so that it will remain private for the key owner... right? if I'm wrong then I really do suggest you either published in Github or just here what would be the methods on your software and how it will decrypt it without being reprinted in plain text format.

Another thing is since you don't guarantee a win, might as well change the thread subject so it wouldn't be misleading.

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March 21, 2022, 10:27:33 PM
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1. You pay (of course)
2. In the ticket, I'll ask for your stake API key.
3. I'll encrypt it with a private key in an encryption application (you can provide this if you want otherwise it will be randomly generated)
4. I'll send you the encrypted key, you may then erase your API key message.
5. Your key is no longer in my possession, and it's encrypted form has been entered into the software.
6. I ask you a few questions, such as whether you want free picks, what your unit percentage is, and whether you want to wager on our other tipster's picks, among other things. I also explain rules you must follow for your own protection.
7. The software runs as soon as I place the bet in my account, usually 10-30 minutes before I post to other members.


I think many wouldn't understand how this will work. A lot in here wants passive income hence wants to know more about your Autobetting services. It's kinda risky if they will provide you their Stake API key as such key can give access to their Stake account and let the keyholder call API methods such as make bets and etc. One thing to enlighten others how you would handle their key without you having a full control in it is that you either explain it in Infographic or video form.

As far as I can tell and base on my little knowledge about encryption is that you'll take their encrypted key and use it on software that will decrypt it so that it will remain private for the key owner... right? if I'm wrong then I really do suggest you either published in Github or just here what would be the methods on your software and how it will decrypt it without being reprinted in plain text format.

Another thing is since you don't guarantee a win, might as well change the thread subject so it wouldn't be misleading.

The keys are essentially kept in encrypted form. Then they're decrypted by the program that puts the bets for you. I enter a secret key that is used to decrypt the key every time I launch the software. Disclaimer: I'm not a coder, and I had a developer work on it for me, so I don't know the technicality on how it's encrypted or how it's decrypted.

However, while I could theoretically decode the key, I lack the necessary programming skills. The software is also said to be obfuscated. Apart from a brief internet search, I don't know exactly what that implies, although they claim it is a security measure.

What I do know is that I am the only one who has access to the software and the encrypted keys. In addition, the program's secret key that is required for it to work.

We also refuse to accept an autobet member who does not have 2FA enabled. This is a must.
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March 23, 2022, 10:54:34 PM
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Picks are posted everyday.

Get in now to profit. Passively.
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Now until April 1st. I will be offering everyone ~25% off purchases!

I didn't see any real proof that your service works, because you don't post print screen every day before and after you place bets and your profit, how much your profit is being each day and how much your bankroll is growing every day and it would be nice if you could post success of some forum members or people who used your service all for the sake of transparency and honesty.

well i saw this:

https://myodds.bet/profile/tompicks

you had 5 defeats and only 3 victories, this is not something of someone successful in the world of betting and who is charging subscription to give tips to other people

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March 25, 2022, 09:05:42 PM
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Now until April 1st. I will be offering everyone ~25% off purchases!

I didn't see any real proof that your service works, because you don't post print screen every day before and after you place bets and your profit, how much your profit is being each day and how much your bankroll is growing every day and it would be nice if you could post success of some forum members or people who used your service all for the sake of transparency and honesty.

well i saw this:

https://myodds.bet/profile/tompicks

you had 5 defeats and only 3 victories, this is not something of someone successful in the world of betting and who is charging subscription to give tips to other people
You're right, the evidence for positive feedback on guard is still lacking and the level of trust is minimal, so I spent about 15 to reviewing how the OP explained every basal he made. The point is that offer after offer, profit, and promotion. But minimal feedback will obviously make it very useless. I think it's more effective to bet on our own terms and not take this offer too seriously as an advantage.

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well i saw this:

https://myodds.bet/profile/tompicks

you had 5 defeats and only 3 victories, this is not something of someone successful in the world of betting and who is charging subscription to give tips to other people
Now it is 7-6 for victories. And average odds 2.19. It looks more interesting now. And the stats for the last month looks nice too.
The most interesting for me is autobet, i can`t spent much time to analyze bets and odd, but i fear of handing over the key. May be i`ll create test account for it, but it will take some time.

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well i saw this:

https://myodds.bet/profile/tompicks

you had 5 defeats and only 3 victories, this is not something of someone successful in the world of betting and who is charging subscription to give tips to other people
Now it is 7-6 for victories. And average odds 2.19. It looks more interesting now. And the stats for the last month looks nice too.
The most interesting for me is autobet, i can`t spent much time to analyze bets and odd, but i fear of handing over the key. May be i`ll create test account for it, but it will take some time.

Yeah we had our first losing UFC last week. Won this weeks event. Having issues update myodds for some reason.


Now until April 1st. I will be offering everyone ~25% off purchases!

I didn't see any real proof that your service works, because you don't post print screen every day before and after you place bets and your profit, how much your profit is being each day and how much your bankroll is growing every day and it would be nice if you could post success of some forum members or people who used your service all for the sake of transparency and honesty.

well i saw this:

https://myodds.bet/profile/tompicks

you had 5 defeats and only 3 victories, this is not something of someone successful in the world of betting and who is charging subscription to give tips to other people

You can see people post proof of profit inside of Discord.

Now until April 1st. I will be offering everyone ~25% off purchases!

You have offered a discount that looks good enough. But the main thing is to see if the player will be interested in buying this service. Because there is enough risk, players who understand that they must try to avoid this service.
Players should be more careful so as not to fall into any unwanted situation due to making a little wrong decision. A victim can understand how important it is for players to be cautious when purchasing any service.

We offer 1 day trials on our Discord for those who ask.

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UFC Results:
Record: 25 - 17
Unit Profit: +49.44
$100 Unit Profit: +$4,944.00
Average Odds:2.28
Link: https://myodds.bet/profile/tompicks?period=ThisYear

Consensus Results: Record: 35 - 27
Unit Profit: +11.08
$100 Unit Profit: +$1,108.00
Average Odds: 1.83
Link: https://myodds.bet/profile/tomconsensus?period=ThisYear

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Record: 60 - 44
Unit Profit: +60.52
$100 Unit Profit: +$6,052.00
7u+ Bets: 3 - 0 [100%]
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Am always jittery when it comes to this kind of service I have relied on correct score betting subscription before I still remember my ugly experience so am now skeptical on this mind of services maybe if you are willing to share more evidence of proven winning that may help a little in convincing us.

I've also had a bad experience using this kind of service and I want to be careful in case I would try it with other sites again. As for me, providing concrete proof would be a good way to support this kind of service. At least evidences that they could really help players win through their service would be convincing.

I was so attracted with the offerings in the OP and also had different impression on the offerings. First thing I wanna say to OP is, no is exactly understanding what’s being offered using your services. Like where I should be betting? Is it limited to sportsbook and is it applicable to any casino present out there?

Moreover, I felt bad after reading above posts as it seems we still don’t have any vouch for your services? I read that you offer telegram one day workout but it’s nothing but delusional many times. So what else we have here to prove the point?

Would love to see offerings and proofs I guess to move further.
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Am always jittery when it comes to this kind of service I have relied on correct score betting subscription before I still remember my ugly experience so am now skeptical on this mind of services maybe if you are willing to share more evidence of proven winning that may help a little in convincing us.

I've also had a bad experience using this kind of service and I want to be careful in case I would try it with other sites again. As for me, providing concrete proof would be a good way to support this kind of service. At least evidences that they could really help players win through their service would be convincing.

I was so attracted with the offerings in the OP and also had different impression on the offerings. First thing I wanna say to OP is, no is exactly understanding what’s being offered using your services. Like where I should be betting? Is it limited to sportsbook and is it applicable to any casino present out there?

Moreover, I felt bad after reading above posts as it seems we still don’t have any vouch for your services? I read that you offer telegram one day workout but it’s nothing but delusional many times. So what else we have here to prove the point?

Would love to see offerings and proofs I guess to move further.

Not quiet sure what you are asking here.

All our picks are on discord and the myodds link with past results.

We offer predictions to sports, not sure what there is to understand to be honest. They work on any sportbooks, casinos, etc. Nobody from bitcointalk has signed up yet to my knowledge. Hence no vouches here.

Autobet only works with Stake.com.
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March 30, 2022, 07:52:53 PM
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UFC Results:
Record: 25 - 17
Unit Profit: +49.44
$100 Unit Profit: +$4,944.00
Average Odds: 2.28
Link: https://myodds.bet/profile/tompicks?period=ThisYear

Consensus Results:
Record: 43 - 31
Unit Profit: +15.05
$100 Unit Profit: +$1,505.00
Average Odds: 1.83 Link: https://myodds.bet/profile/tomconsensus?period=ThisYear

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Record: 68 - 48
Unit Profit: +64.49
$100 Unit Profit: +$6,449.00
​​​​​​​7u+ Bets: 3 - 0 [100%]
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Last day to claim 25% off. Won't be having more sales for a long time.
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Am always jittery when it comes to this kind of service I have relied on correct score betting subscription before I still remember my ugly experience so am now skeptical on this mind of services maybe if you are willing to share more evidence of proven winning that may help a little in convincing us.

I've also had a bad experience using this kind of service and I want to be careful in case I would try it with other sites again. As for me, providing concrete proof would be a good way to support this kind of service. At least evidences that they could really help players win through their service would be convincing.

I was so attracted with the offerings in the OP and also had different impression on the offerings. First thing I wanna say to OP is, no is exactly understanding what’s being offered using your services. Like where I should be betting? Is it limited to sportsbook and is it applicable to any casino present out there?

Moreover, I felt bad after reading above posts as it seems we still don’t have any vouch for your services? I read that you offer telegram one day workout but it’s nothing but delusional many times. So what else we have here to prove the point?

Would love to see offerings and proofs I guess to move further.
Normally I don't have very good experience with this type of services, for some time a friend contracted services of this style and what he received was a big scam, I'm not sure how good this is, but keeping in mind that this type of thing can happen it's hard to believe, it would be nice if OP could attest to some users here on the forum who have already used it, but old accounts that are not new, because it's very easy to create accounts and do some shilling for Many. I am not saying that this site is like that, but it would be good if the op gave more guarantees, since it is something delicate when things that are about money and services.

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April 06, 2022, 08:51:29 AM
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Am always jittery when it comes to this kind of service I have relied on correct score betting subscription before I still remember my ugly experience so am now skeptical on this mind of services maybe if you are willing to share more evidence of proven winning that may help a little in convincing us.

I've also had a bad experience using this kind of service and I want to be careful in case I would try it with other sites again. As for me, providing concrete proof would be a good way to support this kind of service. At least evidences that they could really help players win through their service would be convincing.

I was so attracted with the offerings in the OP and also had different impression on the offerings. First thing I wanna say to OP is, no is exactly understanding what’s being offered using your services. Like where I should be betting? Is it limited to sportsbook and is it applicable to any casino present out there?

Moreover, I felt bad after reading above posts as it seems we still don’t have any vouch for your services? I read that you offer telegram one day workout but it’s nothing but delusional many times. So what else we have here to prove the point?

Would love to see offerings and proofs I guess to move further.
Normally I don't have very good experience with this type of services, for some time a friend contracted services of this style and what he received was a big scam, I'm not sure how good this is, but keeping in mind that this type of thing can happen it's hard to believe, it would be nice if OP could attest to some users here on the forum who have already used it, but old accounts that are not new, because it's very easy to create accounts and do some shilling for Many. I am not saying that this site is like that, but it would be good if the op gave more guarantees, since it is something delicate when things that are about money and services.

It will be good if the ops can come up with more evidence of success prediction and users make a review of how the services work effectively.

I will rather give it some time before making any conclusion, if the service is legit and offer accurate prediction then good luck to the ops
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April 06, 2022, 09:43:57 PM
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Am always jittery when it comes to this kind of service I have relied on correct score betting subscription before I still remember my ugly experience so am now skeptical on this mind of services maybe if you are willing to share more evidence of proven winning that may help a little in convincing us.

I've also had a bad experience using this kind of service and I want to be careful in case I would try it with other sites again. As for me, providing concrete proof would be a good way to support this kind of service. At least evidences that they could really help players win through their service would be convincing.

I was so attracted with the offerings in the OP and also had different impression on the offerings. First thing I wanna say to OP is, no is exactly understanding what’s being offered using your services. Like where I should be betting? Is it limited to sportsbook and is it applicable to any casino present out there?

Moreover, I felt bad after reading above posts as it seems we still don’t have any vouch for your services? I read that you offer telegram one day workout but it’s nothing but delusional many times. So what else we have here to prove the point?

Would love to see offerings and proofs I guess to move further.
Normally I don't have very good experience with this type of services, for some time a friend contracted services of this style and what he received was a big scam, I'm not sure how good this is, but keeping in mind that this type of thing can happen it's hard to believe, it would be nice if OP could attest to some users here on the forum who have already used it, but old accounts that are not new, because it's very easy to create accounts and do some shilling for Many. I am not saying that this site is like that, but it would be good if the op gave more guarantees, since it is something delicate when things that are about money and services.


Since you are a trusted member, I can allow you a week to evaluate it and then you may let everyone know how it went. Free of charge.
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I signed up for the service, i'll let you guys know the results when the month ends.
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I signed up for the service, i'll let you guys know the results when the month ends.
Any ways all the best and hope you will give us feedback of your experience with the service, but don't forget to add every detail needed when giving out you experience since your account is a new account we may not trust you unles you give clear .evidence
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Big recovery day yesterday after a small losing streak.

5-1 yesterday +9.87u and back on track.
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7-2 Last two days +13.7u or $1,370 for 100$ unit betters! 
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I signed up for the service, i'll let you guys know the results when the month ends.
Any ways all the best and hope you will give us feedback of your experience with the service, but don't forget to add every detail needed when giving out you experience since your account is a new account we may not trust you unles you give clear .evidence

The OP so far has no negative feedback. Don't know if no one from the forum is availing his service except the newbie here or no one is complaining yet. But knowing the forum users, they will just opt for free predictions because if they know the sports they want to bet, they will just look for more hints or someone else's predictions. But not to the point of paying someone without very solid track record.
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I signed up for the service, i'll let you guys know the results when the month ends.
Any ways all the best and hope you will give us feedback of your experience with the service, but don't forget to add every detail needed when giving out you experience since your account is a new account we may not trust you unles you give clear .evidence

The OP so far has no negative feedback. Don't know if no one from the forum is availing his service except the newbie here or no one is complaining yet. But knowing the forum users, they will just opt for free predictions because if they know the sports they want to bet, they will just look for more hints or someone else's predictions. But not to the point of paying someone without very solid track record.

I think you got confused here. Tellek Garing was talking about feedback on results/experience with the betting system, not feedback regarding the forum trust system.

Anyway, what a newbie can comment on his experience with the betting system is not going to be of much value either.

As for what you comment, I am in DT and I could tag the OP if I had clear evidence that he was trying to scam people but I can't tell if that is it or he is genuinely offering a system that he thinks works.

In my case I have two reasons why I don't try his alleged system. The first is that the results he has achieved in the short term may be due to luck or positive variance and the second is that if I had a system that I was confident of with that ROI, the only thing I would do would be to invest and reinvest all my available capital to earn more. I would not be trying to sell the system to others.

You won't see any of the more experienced forum members testing the system because we have seen many of these offers over time and they end up in one of two ways: either with people getting scammed or with the OP disappearing when a losing streak comes along that messes up the results he promises.

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We have been having a crazy winning streak! The last 6 days we are 13 - 3! With a total profit of 13.87 Units! We have UFC tonight and look to continue the streak get on now before the event starts!


I signed up for the service, i'll let you guys know the results when the month ends.
Any ways all the best and hope you will give us feedback of your experience with the service, but don't forget to add every detail needed when giving out you experience since your account is a new account we may not trust you unles you give clear .evidence

The OP so far has no negative feedback. Don't know if no one from the forum is availing his service except the newbie here or no one is complaining yet. But knowing the forum users, they will just opt for free predictions because if they know the sports they want to bet, they will just look for more hints or someone else's predictions. But not to the point of paying someone without very solid track record.

I think you got confused here. Tellek Garing was talking about feedback on results/experience with the betting system, not feedback regarding the forum trust system.

Anyway, what a newbie can comment on his experience with the betting system is not going to be of much value either.

As for what you comment, I am in DT and I could tag the OP if I had clear evidence that he was trying to scam people but I can't tell if that is it or he is genuinely offering a system that he thinks works.

In my case I have two reasons why I don't try his alleged system. The first is that the results he has achieved in the short term may be due to luck or positive variance and the second is that if I had a system that I was confident of with that ROI, the only thing I would do would be to invest and reinvest all my available capital to earn more. I would not be trying to sell the system to others.

You won't see any of the more experienced forum members testing the system because we have seen many of these offers over time and they end up in one of two ways: either with people getting scammed or with the OP disappearing when a losing streak comes along that messes up the results he promises.

I signed up for the service, i'll let you guys know the results when the month ends.
Any ways all the best and hope you will give us feedback of your experience with the service, but don't forget to add every detail needed when giving out you experience since your account is a new account we may not trust you unles you give clear .evidence

The OP so far has no negative feedback. Don't know if no one from the forum is availing his service except the newbie here or no one is complaining yet. But knowing the forum users, they will just opt for free predictions because if they know the sports they want to bet, they will just look for more hints or someone else's predictions. But not to the point of paying someone without very solid track record.

No one from this forum has really signed up so can't have proof if no one tries. You are both more than welcome to wait for more results.
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April 16, 2022, 05:33:11 PM
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We have been having a crazy winning streak! The last 6 days we are 13 - 3! With a total profit of 13.87 Units! We have UFC tonight and look to continue the streak get on now before the event starts!

Do we need to know your winning percentage only from you? If this is the case then maybe you can share some evidence which shows that you are actually doing something, and if you do not share any information then there is definitely something that you cannot share because you are offering something fake.

I will wait for the details, I hope you will deal with it in a professional way.

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April 16, 2022, 08:41:03 PM
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I signed up for the service, i'll let you guys know the results when the month ends.
Any ways all the best and hope you will give us feedback of your experience with the service, but don't forget to add every detail needed when giving out you experience since your account is a new account we may not trust you unles you give clear .evidence

The OP so far has no negative feedback. Don't know if no one from the forum is availing his service except the newbie here or no one is complaining yet. But knowing the forum users, they will just opt for free predictions because if they know the sports they want to bet, they will just look for more hints or someone else's predictions. But not to the point of paying someone without very solid track record.

I think you got confused here. Tellek Garing was talking about feedback on results/experience with the betting system, not feedback regarding the forum trust system.

Anyway, what a newbie can comment on his experience with the betting system is not going to be of much value either.

As for what you comment, I am in DT and I could tag the OP if I had clear evidence that he was trying to scam people but I can't tell if that is it or he is genuinely offering a system that he thinks works.

In my case I have two reasons why I don't try his alleged system. The first is that the results he has achieved in the short term may be due to luck or positive variance and the second is that if I had a system that I was confident of with that ROI, the only thing I would do would be to invest and reinvest all my available capital to earn more. I would not be trying to sell the system to others.

You won't see any of the more experienced forum members testing the system because we have seen many of these offers over time and they end up in one of two ways: either with people getting scammed or with the OP disappearing when a losing streak comes along that messes up the results he promises.
Poka player thanks for clarifying ops on that missed conception of my message, you have clearly outlined what I was thinking about ops but since we still lack the evidence to outrightly call this a scam we have to trade with caution as a community as not to fall victim for this, since we all know what previous experience with such services end up with.
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April 18, 2022, 11:19:57 PM
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I signed up for the service, i'll let you guys know the results when the month ends.
Any ways all the best and hope you will give us feedback of your experience with the service, but don't forget to add every detail needed when giving out you experience since your account is a new account we may not trust you unles you give clear .evidence

The OP so far has no negative feedback. Don't know if no one from the forum is availing his service except the newbie here or no one is complaining yet. But knowing the forum users, they will just opt for free predictions because if they know the sports they want to bet, they will just look for more hints or someone else's predictions. But not to the point of paying someone without very solid track record.

I think you got confused here. Tellek Garing was talking about feedback on results/experience with the betting system, not feedback regarding the forum trust system.

Anyway, what a newbie can comment on his experience with the betting system is not going to be of much value either.

As for what you comment, I am in DT and I could tag the OP if I had clear evidence that he was trying to scam people but I can't tell if that is it or he is genuinely offering a system that he thinks works.

In my case I have two reasons why I don't try his alleged system. The first is that the results he has achieved in the short term may be due to luck or positive variance and the second is that if I had a system that I was confident of with that ROI, the only thing I would do would be to invest and reinvest all my available capital to earn more. I would not be trying to sell the system to others.

You won't see any of the more experienced forum members testing the system because we have seen many of these offers over time and they end up in one of two ways: either with people getting scammed or with the OP disappearing when a losing streak comes along that messes up the results he promises.
Poka player thanks for clarifying ops on that missed conception of my message, you have clearly outlined what I was thinking about ops but since we still lack the evidence to outrightly call this a scam we have to trade with caution as a community as not to fall victim for this, since we all know what previous experience with such services end up with.

We have been having a crazy winning streak! The last 6 days we are 13 - 3! With a total profit of 13.87 Units! We have UFC tonight and look to continue the streak get on now before the event starts!

Do we need to know your winning percentage only from you? If this is the case then maybe you can share some evidence which shows that you are actually doing something, and if you do not share any information then there is definitely something that you cannot share because you are offering something fake.

I will wait for the details, I hope you will deal with it in a professional way.

I'm not sure how you both want me to demonstrate it to you.

If you'd like, I can provide you temporary access to the member section to see the pick archive as evidence of outcomes in discord.
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Monthly suscription is over, overall I lost money, luckly I just used 10% of my usual betting unit.
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Monthly suscription is over, overall I lost money, luckly I just used 10% of my usual betting unit.

Sorry to hear that, I assumed you joined during the consensus losing streak?
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