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March 01, 2022, 08:39:05 AM
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If you have like $1000 to trade, you are not even a shrimp not to talk of to be a bitcoin wahle, but $1000 can be huge to some people and trading is very risky. I have noticed that swing trading is not very risky like many people are thinking, that is why some scalpers and day traders lose money continuously and have no option than to go for swing trading before they start to gain.

I have noticed about swing trading, you do not have to watch the chart all the time, you do not have to wake up at night to see if you are making profit already, it is not stressful, not causing emotional stress. But some traders can use a very high leverage that can make it worse.

The market increase and decrease in the two directions, this is the chance that most swing traders are having, they can be losing for long, the market will correct back and they will gain.


1x is good for swing trading but to what leverage can you go for swing trading in an extreme volatile market that has never resulted to liquidation of your trading asset? Your replies should be what you have been experiencing in swing trading and not just what you think.

Or better to just hold with $1000?

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March 01, 2022, 09:57:47 AM
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Yes the volatility of the market does give us leverage of trading in swing and day format. There is no other market which can give so much freedom to go up and down. However, this is not good for long term holding. I mean investors usually go crazy if they see market is dropping heavily and are not able to control their emotions then they could loose it up all. However there few ways like selling off at right time and buying at right. However that’s the hardest part all the time. For swing also this step is vital. If you can control the motions then you are good otherwise it’s hell loss.
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March 01, 2022, 10:52:31 AM
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I'm better with holding it. I know that there are good traders that can grow that amount but if it's me on that situation, I'll choose to hold that in bitcoin.
Since holding is part of the choice, there can also be options of holding that amount in different altcoins. But to me, the best part of it is to hold it on bitcoin.
Growth might be higher and bigger if it's for the altcoins but I'll choose the slowly but surely method and if I've got another budget to invest, I'll add it on that holding with the same crypto, bitcoin.

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March 01, 2022, 11:09:19 AM
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The market increase and decrease in the two directions, this is the chance that most swing traders are having, they can be losing for long, the market will correct back and they will gain.


These you have mentioned are just the difference between the types of trade. Of course every trading pattern has its good and bad side. You have listed the good part of swinging but for swing to some people is slow and the profit is delayed. When you are losing in swing, it takes time to come back to profit but day trading is faster and scalping for scalper is more fast. Therefore they are all having the good and bad , they are both pattern of trading we need to use reasonable leverage above all risk management is best part of trading.
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March 01, 2022, 11:34:08 AM
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If I have $1,000, I will use only $500 to trade and keep $500 in bitcoin. I will buy low and sell high, and I don't need to do that as fast as other people because I think that will depend on the market situation. If I think the market can move fast, perhaps, buying low and selling high right away will be a good choice so we can make a profit. But if the situation seems too slow to move, I will not force myself to sell and buy back at the lower price because the price will not go down fast.
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March 01, 2022, 12:50:39 PM
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1x is good for swing trading but to what leverage can you go for swing trading in an extreme volatile market that has never resulted to liquidation of your trading asset? Your replies should be what you have been experiencing in swing trading and not just what you think.

In fact I would choose a spot trade rather than liquidated in leverage. Leverage promises huge profits but also big risks. I once made 100$ with just 20$ in 1 day. But the next day I lost and lost more, even it felt like an addiction. Every time I have money I use to play leverage. Of course leveraged swing trading doesn't seem to suit me then I wouldn't suggest for anyone. Fortunately I can still control myself and no longer want to participate in leverage trading. 

I think $1000 is a big capital. It seems like it all depends on those who have, if you are using leverage trading then do it if not then try playing in spot trading. It may have been too much leverage, but that experience has made me realize I'm not an expert there.

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March 01, 2022, 02:03:55 PM
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If you have enough patience then i think holding is the best way to get benefit. I think it's depends on you,if you choose good coin and buy most popular and valuable coin and hold long time i hope You will be get good profit from it.Otherwise, If you have enough knowledge about swing trading then you can trade small money in total.
You can go with the buy low and sell high but you will need patience. I would suggest dividing the funds into some for long term holding and some for regular trading. It does not mean you have day trade on the latter, use it for buying at low set points and selling at high set points, thus cycling the money and making a profit. Watching the current market movements, I can say that people will sell at 40k and buy at 30k, so you can follow that and place orders accordingly. The more frequently the cycles go, the more multiplications your profit gets.

This added with the long term holding should allow you to make good returns over time. But it takes patience and a cool mind.

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March 01, 2022, 02:29:06 PM
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The market increase and decrease in the two directions, this is the chance that most swing traders are having, they can be losing for long, the market will correct back and they will gain.
There is also a third direction which is the range. Market can range for a long time without showing a clear upward or downward direction for as long as two three months, and even more, until it moves out from a box which is a breakout (BO). We've seen that happen a whole lot of times. When that happens, the market is said to be sleeping or boring. Again, you talked about swing trading being very easy to profit from. That's not true. Wait until you get in the opposite direction of a trend; you will realize that market doesn't always rebound easily.

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Again, you talked about swing trading being very easy to profit from. That's not true. Wait until you get in the opposite direction of a trend; you will realize that market doesn't always rebound easily.
Normally no easy way of making money, also why trading, it should generally be known that it is risky. Your order can fill and go on the opposite direction, but it also depends on how professional someone is and about the market condition. That is why it is good to just make use of leverage that is not risky like 1x, 2x or 3x leverage for bitcoin because extreme volatile market can lead to liquidation, while the best is just 1x which will not result to panic in most cases.

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March 01, 2022, 02:44:32 PM
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If you have like $1000 to trade, you are not even a shrimp not to talk of to be a bitcoin wahle, but $1000 can be huge to some people and trading is very risky. I have noticed that swing trading is not very risky like many people are thinking, that is why some scalpers and day traders lose money continuously and have no option than to go for swing trading before they start to gain.

I have noticed about swing trading, you do not have to watch the chart all the time, you do not have to wake up at night to see if you are making profit already, it is not stressful, not causing emotional stress. But some traders can use a very high leverage that can make it worse.

The market increase and decrease in the two directions, this is the chance that most swing traders are having, they can be losing for long, the market will correct back and they will gain.


1x is good for swing trading but to what leverage can you go for swing trading in an extreme volatile market that has never resulted to liquidation of your trading asset? Your replies should be what you have been experiencing in swing trading and not just what you think.

Or better to just hold with $1000?
Well, theres nothing wrong to try both. Since they are both profitable and less risky. You can try swing trading at the same time invest the half amount of your money and hold for long term.As long as you have enough knowledge and patience in swing trading and holding, then why not?
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March 01, 2022, 02:56:44 PM
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If you have enough patience then i think holding is the best way to get benefit. I think it's depends on you,if you choose good coin and buy most popular and valuable coin and hold long time i hope You will be get good profit from it.Otherwise, If you have enough knowledge about swing trading then you can trade small money in total.
In holding coins, patience does have an important role to be able to get maximum profit,
before buying coins it would be nice to do some research first,
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March 01, 2022, 03:26:48 PM
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I am not capable of doing swing trading all that well, not impossible but requires too much time and too much effort for too much risk for me. I would be able to do it if it was a bit more guaranteed income, but obviously it is not, because nothing is guaranteed in swing trading.

However holding is not like that, you could hold for years and it is almost guaranteed that you will make money, and on top of that it requires to effort at all. You just hold it... literally means not do anything. That is how I have been making most of my money, obviously I do trade a bit but that doesn't mean that I keep trading it all the time neither, just a bit here and there.

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The difference between swing trading and day trading is usually the length of the position. Swing trading typically involves at least overnight holdings, while day traders close their positions before the market closes.
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March 01, 2022, 06:45:26 PM
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I am not capable of doing swing trading all that well, not impossible but requires too much time and too much effort for too much risk for me. I would be able to do it if it was a bit more guaranteed income, but obviously it is not, because nothing is guaranteed in swing trading.

However holding is not like that, you could hold for years and it is almost guaranteed that you will make money, and on top of that it requires to effort at all. You just hold it... literally means not do anything. That is how I have been making most of my money, obviously I do trade a bit but that doesn't mean that I keep trading it all the time neither, just a bit here and there.
But the OP said that swing trading is easy. Are you sure that what your talking about is swing trading? But, if you want to earn more profit you must be willing to dedicate more time, effort and enter much risk. Nothing is easy money here in crypto and most importantly there is no such thing here as guaranteed income because cryptos are unstable.

If you want guaranteed income then you better work on a real job. For me there is no need to choose between swing trading and holding but I can do them both because both risks can be manageable. If I have 1k, I can divide it to the both of them and for the leverage i think I am only good at 1x.

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March 01, 2022, 10:39:51 PM
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1x is good for swing trading but to what leverage can you go for swing trading in an extreme volatile market that has never resulted to liquidation of your trading asset? Your replies should be what you have been experiencing in swing trading and not just what you think.

Or better to just hold with $1000?
If you only have 1000 dollars to your name to trade then most likely the level of experience you have while swing trading is low and as such the answer to your question is simple, do not use leverage at all, there is a concept called risk of bankruptcy and this basically tells you how likely it is that you will lose all your capital while you trade, and anything other than zero is unacceptable, because if that number is not zero then it means that at some point no matter how unlikely you think it is you will lose everything, and adding leverage is one of the fastest ways to raise that risk substantially.
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March 01, 2022, 11:56:12 PM
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As long you dont touch leverage/futures then you do always have  the chance for some recovery whether you are dealing with short/daytrades since you could always have the opt to hold with those

unrealized losses or floating negatives unlike when you are liquidated which is a different story.When it comes to swings then this is similar or same with trend trading on which you do stick out on a
particular timeframe and observe some biases specially on 1d to 1wk TF which technicals could really be seen.

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March 02, 2022, 03:04:06 AM
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whether swing trading, or long trading and short trading, all have their own advantages and disadvantages. many actually do all three, which have different levels of risk so they have different treatments. indeed day trading is more complicated than swing, but it can be used as daily income for every trader

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March 02, 2022, 03:24:11 AM
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Swing trading is good, Holding is also good. But not all of us can afford to have the level of patience that it is going to take us to be able to make a good amount of profit from being a HODL’er in the market. People that I have seen that were able to realize huge profit were those that held for a very long time especially before a halving and the price went up and once it reached what seems to be the peak they decide to sell.

I have been able to do this though, but the level of patience is not easy, depending on when you started though; if you’re starting prior to the market experiencing a correction, then you might have to wait longer. Swing trading , you can be making profit at anytime. It’s all about choice and if you can do swing trading.

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March 02, 2022, 01:02:15 PM
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Swing trading is the best strategy if your money you are risking is what you can afford to lose since you will highly dependent on your price setup and you can have a terrible lose if the price moves in different direction to your target selling point. I believe holding is still the best in crypto due to its volatility, you can have a profit without a stressful trading if you will ignore paper loss. But of course this discussion ill be highly case to case basis and expect more objective answer to come.
Everything you’re doing the cryptocurrency market has to do with investing with what you can afford to lose. I don’t think there is anything you would do in this market that you wouldn’t have to be careful and only invest what you can lose, since everything you’re doing in the market involves risk. Even HODL involves risk, same as when you’re doing swing trading.

So, risk are always involved no matter what you choose, because it’s still the same cryptocurrency that you’re dealing and the price will keep on going up and down. For me, I don’t really have that much choice, I do the both of them. HODL seems like a normal thing that anyone would do, I believe that most of us has coins that are stored in one of our secure wallets and we are not touching it. Then we have the ones that we keep on exchanges that we use for whatever trading we choose to do.

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March 02, 2022, 02:29:59 PM
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Listen, everyone wants to make money from trading, no one wants to lose anyway. So the swing trade was easier than everyone would move there. But it's not what you are thinking. Always not happen what we expect exactly in our life. Same as swing trade is risky as well. It's very important to know technical analysis to predict the chart movements for swing traders where holding is easier. Swing is almost day trading just a matter of time duration.

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