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March 08, 2022, 04:47:39 PM
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Alright guys. Just last question, is the legacy seed strict? or is it possible that I used this seed to create legacy wallet when I was trying to test it..
I mean, I'm very organised person and I tend to test and verify things and I just can't simply digest that I messed up this way ;o) I haven't created 2 wallets intentionally. So I'm trying to think of a way how this could have happened.
Is it possible that in the older version of Electrum, I created my first wallet. And then I learned about it a little (it was my first wallet) and revealed my seed and then I tested this seed to see if I can recover the wallet from it. Just to confirm myself that the seed works.
But instead of restoring same wallet I somehow created new one (legacy one) using this seed not understanding that it's not the same wallet? So I took one of the address and transferred btc to it.
And now I don't know how I used this seed to create that second wallet...

The problem with Electrum (it's probably not a problem but consequence of how seed recovering work) is that when you use anything that is accepted as seed it always creates "some" wallet. So it's easy to "restore" different wallet by mistake especially when it has no transactions on it yet.

Any ideas? the puzzling thing here is that seed seems like segwit but receiving address is legacy.
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March 08, 2022, 05:27:04 PM
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But instead of restoring same wallet I somehow created new one (legacy one) using this seed not understanding that it's not the same wallet? So I took one of the address and transferred btc to it.
Any electrum's seed phrase always generates same addresses. It's not possible that you import the same seed phrase and electrum generates different addresses.
Maybe, you created a new wallet instead of importing that seed phrase when you were trying to test how electrum works.


The problem with Electrum (it's probably not a problem but consequence of how seed recovering work) is that when you use anything that is accepted as seed it always creates "some" wallet. So it's easy to "restore" different wallet by mistake especially when it has no transactions on it yet.
It's not that anything is accepted as a seed phrase.
You can test this yourself. Change a word. You will see that the seed phrase becomes invalid and electrum won't allow you to generate a wallet.
Evevn if you import a BIP39 seed phrase and change a word, you will see a warning saying the checksum is failed.

 
Any ideas? the puzzling thing here is that seed seems like segwit but receiving address is legacy.
As said, you are using a wrong seed phrase.
Are you sure that you have never used any wallet other than electrum?

You didn't answer the question asked by o_e_l_e_o.
Do you remeber seeing any balance in your wallet?

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March 08, 2022, 08:37:09 PM
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As said, you are using a wrong seed phrase.
Are you sure that you have never used any wallet other than electrum?

You didn't answer the question asked by o_e_l_e_o.
Do you remeber seeing any balance in your wallet?

It happened in 2017 and I never used it since. Just wrote down the seed at the time.
Can't really remember details. I'm not sure about anything anymore.
I understand that the address that I sent btc to is not the same wallet I have seed from.
I just have no clue where I've got the legacy address I sent it to.
Seems like I will never find out anymore ;|
Thanks for help to all, anyway..
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March 08, 2022, 11:44:56 PM
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It happened in 2017 and I never used it since. Just wrote down the seed at the time.
Can't really remember details. I'm not sure about anything anymore.
I understand that the address that I sent btc to is not the same wallet I have seed from.
I just have no clue where I've got the legacy address I sent it to.
Seems like I will never find out anymore ;|
Thanks for help to all, anyway..

If it was created in 2017 you might install a fake Electrum wallet, 2017 was the year when many people were victims of phishing Electrum wallet.
Or you might be a victim of Clipboard malware but the only problem the address where you sent BTC to funds is still there.

Can you try to restore your wallet again make sure it was a legacy wallet and then look for xPub you can find it on Wallet>Information on the top left menu?

After you copy the xPub use this tool below and paste the xPub let's hope that it could scan the used address with balance if it detects anything with the same address or might be a different address with balance maybe your Electrum wallet is not syncing properly there are times that even the network in your Electrum is green ISP is blocking your Electrum from receiving data on the mainnet. 

- https://blockpath.com/wallets/new?action=appxpub

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March 09, 2022, 12:53:55 AM
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Can you try to restore your wallet again make sure it was a legacy wallet and then look for xPub you can find it on Wallet>Information on the top left menu?
As I already said in one of my previous posts, it's not possible to create a legacy wallet using a seed phrase generated by electrum for a segwit wallet.
Look at the following image. Once I entered the seed phrase, electrum detected the seed type and it's not possible to change that. Charles-Tim explained how the seed type is determined.  



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March 09, 2022, 08:09:10 AM
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If it was created in 2017 you might install a fake Electrum wallet, 2017 was the year when many people were victims of phishing Electrum wallet.
Or you might be a victim of Clipboard malware but the only problem the address where you sent BTC to funds is still there.


That could be an explanation. Sadly. And if it was fake software i could have even shown funds received on fake wallet.
BUT as you say btc is still there ;o)

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March 12, 2022, 01:32:19 PM
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Alright guys. Just last question, is the legacy seed strict? or is it possible that I used this seed to create legacy wallet when I was trying to test it..
I mean, I'm very organised person and I tend to test and verify things and I just can't simply digest that I messed up this way ;o) I haven't created 2 wallets intentionally. So I'm trying to think of a way how this could have happened.
Is it possible that in the older version of Electrum, I created my first wallet. And then I learned about it a little (it was my first wallet) and revealed my seed and then I tested this seed to see if I can recover the wallet from it. Just to confirm myself that the seed works.
But instead of restoring same wallet I somehow created new one (legacy one) using this seed not understanding that it's not the same wallet? So I took one of the address and transferred btc to it.
And now I don't know how I used this seed to create that second wallet...

The problem with Electrum (it's probably not a problem but consequence of how seed recovering work) is that when you use anything that is accepted as seed it always creates "some" wallet. So it's easy to "restore" different wallet by mistake especially when it has no transactions on it yet.

Any ideas? the puzzling thing here is that seed seems like segwit but receiving address is legacy.

A segwit seed will always restore a segwit wallet and never a legacy wallet. You have the wrong seed.
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