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November 03, 2021, 11:39:06 AM
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Hi all, is it when moderator tagged our report as [bad], we can no longer access posts and threads?

Of the 642 posts that I reported the results were 640 tagged good, 1 bad, and 1 not handled. The problem is I can no longer access posts that are tagged bad, I really want to know what the reason is. Did you experience the same thing as me while you were a spam buster?

The post and thread seems to have been deleted by the moderators, but is there a reason why the report was tagged bad?


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November 03, 2021, 12:18:48 PM
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I can no longer access posts that are tagged bad, I really want to know what the reason is.
Your report history only shows reports made in the last 30 days. The "bad" report is most likely older than that.

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November 03, 2021, 12:28:39 PM
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Your report history only shows reports made in the last 30 days. The "bad" report is most likely older than that.
The report I did on November 1, it's not an old report. The thread seems to have been deleted by a moderator.

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November 03, 2021, 03:10:46 PM
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@_BlackStar, it's probably that your report was actually good, but the moderator mistakenly marked it as bad - it happened to me a few times. As far as I know, only the admin can change this status, although there is a possibility that global mods also have these powers.

When I take a closer look maybe there is another possibility why is post marked as bad, is it possible that you report the same post twice?

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November 03, 2021, 05:03:19 PM
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The thread seems to have been deleted by a moderator.
I think I misunderstood you earlier. If a post gets deleted, the topicID changes. I guess (some) Mods can still access it, but normal users can't.

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November 03, 2021, 05:11:00 PM
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@_BlackStar, try to ignore your stats. Bad reports are also a result. You will soon begin to figure out what you did right and what the moderator disagrees with.
It is also possible that you misidentified your complaint, and therefore the result was poor.
I'm sure everyone who started submitting reports got bad results, there is nothing tragic about that.

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November 04, 2021, 10:35:33 AM
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Cheat Hunting, Spam Hunting, Plagiarism fighting and Scam bursting
These are voluntary community(forum) services whose primary aim is to sanitize the forum. Without users involving in these services, the forum would have been a total mess as only the moderators cannot handle. I am unsure that the reason people join the services is for merit. However, when any of the above is done correctly, it attracts merits as reward in exception of spam reporting which cannot be made public because of its nature.
Most times, people after reporting a user for plagiarism also tend to create thread with it, either to acclaim praises or whatever reason, thereby giving the accused the opportunity to modify or delete the post and hence escape the punishment.
Among the aforelisted, I love one most and will be willing to do it anytime, and that is Scam bursting. All other ones are beneficial to the forum and its users, but Scam bursting is much more important because it can ruin someone not only in the forum but in the real life.
My unreserved respect to all the Scam bursters Cool

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November 04, 2021, 07:05:25 PM
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@_BlackStar, it's probably that your report was actually good, but the moderator mistakenly marked it as bad - it happened to me a few times. As far as I know, only the admin can change this status, although there is a possibility that global mods also have these powers.
I don't want the mod to change that, I'm doing this because I want to know what's the reason. Maybe after this I won't care too much about the report stats either, but it would make a lot of sense when a lot of reports are tagged bad which means the difficulty of finding spammers is getting higher.

When I take a closer look maybe there is another possibility why is post marked as bad, is it possible that you report the same post twice?
No, I don't think so. But maybe because I have a fairly short interval between the first report and the second report and so on. But now it's good for me to forget that and continue my activities.



@_BlackStar, try to ignore your stats. Bad reports are also a result. You will soon begin to figure out what you did right and what the moderator disagrees with.
It is also possible that you misidentified your complaint, and therefore the result was poor.
I'm sure everyone who started submitting reports got bad results, there is nothing tragic about that.
I will gladly consider your suggestions. Because basically these statistics will not have much effect on the handling of reports. 640:1, not as bad as I thought.  Cheesy

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Hai all, this a new milestone for my report. 180+ today, a bit tiring, but hopefully it will help reduce spammers and change their mindset for the better. When they actively post only for money by only meeting the weekly quota [without any contribution] then I only advise the manager not to accept it again in the future. But who cares about this?

Now 900, will soon reach my first 1000 reports in the next few days.


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February 09, 2022, 11:56:10 AM
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In total there are 44 reports that have not been handled since February 4 2022 until now from more than 200 reports that I submitted to the moderator. I may not mind this, but is it possible that this report will be addressed soon or will it stay like that forever and turn into a bad report?



I know that this kind of situation has happened in my previous reports, but the moderators are starting to deal with it sooner than I expected.

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February 09, 2022, 12:19:41 PM
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If they are not handled for more than 30 days, most likely will stay unhandled forever. They won't turn into bad ones automatically. I have many unhandled since the time of the homograph attacks, as the mods didn't know how to address them because they were not fitting into the rules, but were cheating attempts, without solid proof.

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In total there are 44 reports that have not been handled since February 4 2022 until now from more than 200 reports that I submitted to the moderator. I may not mind this, but is it possible that this report will be addressed soon or will it stay like that forever and turn into a bad report?
As TheBeardedBaby have already written mostly when its unhandled over a week or 2 it will be staying as unhandled.
Depends also on the case what kind of reports we are talking about or what you have reported.
Sometimes the Moderator are not sure how to adress the report and its marked us unhandled.
I just can speak from my unhandled reports as they was longer as a week not finished , its unhandled.
Dont worry about it as long the unhandled reports are not bigger as the good ones  Wink

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As I said, I actually don't mind this unhandled report but almost all the posts I report have the same reason because I believe they are spam posts created just to fill the weekly post qouta on a campaign.

I almost don't report newbie, jr or member posts because I'm more interested in capturing spammers whose rankings start from Full member and above to Legendary. It really got me addicted to keep catching it.

Yes, I know the numbers aren't worth the my good reports, after all it's only been a few days of unhandled. If possible, I'd still like the moderators to handle it faster whether that's good or bad.

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February 09, 2022, 03:17:03 PM
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As I said, I actually don't mind this unhandled report but almost all the posts I report have the same reason because I believe they are spam posts created just to fill the weekly post qouta on a campaign.

There is a difference, what you think and what a certain moderator thinks at a given moment may be different - of course, you think you are right, but the other side thinks differently. Realistically, 70% of posts violate forum rules in some way - and the fact is that at least half of it goes under the radar, or someone pretends not to have seen some things in the sense that it's not worth wasting time on such things.

However, don't be discouraged - most spammers quickly give up when they get a private message every day that at least 5-6 posts have been deleted - realistically, it's much easier to report a post than to write it Wink

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In total there are 44 reports that have not been handled since February 4 2022 until now from more than 200 reports that I submitted to the moderator. I may not mind this, but is it possible that this report will be addressed soon or will it stay like that forever and turn into a bad report?
I don't know exactly why the moderators didn't handle the report while I was doing it. So far my 49 reports haven't been handled by a moderator (maybe more than 1 year), but I don't really care about those stats. Afaik, moderators have their own way of handling reports and every reporter may have to accept the fact that not all reports will be handled when the moderator can't decide whether it's good or bad.

_BlackStar, don't really care about those stats because your contribution is much more important than just having good stats for each of your reports. Keep reporting posts you think are spam and continue your contribution without worrying too much about the stats. You may need to worry if 80% or more of the posts you report are not handled or tag badly by moderators. For now, you're fine with those stats.

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Cheat hunters and spam bursters are like the front-end and back-end developers.
While the cheat hunters work would easily be seen by all and maybe rewarded with merits and trust as alleged by OP.
Spam bursters work behind the scene to sanitise the forum, and I believe the admin would be the one to see and maybe reward them with trust or they may have chances of becoming moderators.

While the cheat hunters help the managers to hire one participant in a particular campaign, spam bursters help the moderators to keep here neat.

It is also worthy to note that majority of the cheat hunters and spam bursters do not do it for reward. It is passion.
Ratimov wouldn't have made 100,000 good reports if he wasn't passionate about it.

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Spam buster and cheater hunters are doing great here in the forum they are doing these to maintain the forum clean. Without them for sure in this forum, there are many shitposters, cheaters and other violence created by another user who does not value the forum. For now many user who report spam post and cheater to mods and the mods take an action in it.

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Question for spambusters: It seems the mod is running slower lately at handling reports, really?

I have increased my activity to report a number of spam posts and shitposts to the mod especially during the month of March. But I think the mod needs a little time to handle the reports so my number of unhandled reports is still above 200. Do you feel the same?


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Question for spambusters: It seems the mod is running slower lately at handling reports, really?

I have increased my activity to report a number of spam posts and shitposts to the mod especially during the month of March. But I think the mod needs a little time to handle the reports so my number of unhandled reports is still above 200. Do you feel the same?



Yep - I believe there’s been a huge increase in reporting by spambusters in the last few months and I’ve certainly noticed there can be a lag sometimes (1-2weeks) until the mods catch up - they are definitely being kept busy  Smiley Just keep up the good work everyone  Smiley
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The reports so far have been handled manually by the mod in my opinion and it takes a lot of time. You have to be patient to get the results because it is possible that many other contributors will also increase the number of reports. My advice, continue your report even if you have to wait a little longer for the results. Good jobs.

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