Pmalek
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July 03, 2022, 06:59:39 AM |
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I am mentioning them here just in case some have mention notifications activated.
Peeple who supported Type 3 flag: ...Pmalek I can see that bambolina still supports one of the flags against LTC Casino. He removed support for one, maybe he forgot to do it for the other. I will remove my support for the flag when OP has been paid in full. I have notifications enabled and as soon as someone mentions my name or quotes one of my posts, I will check to see what is going on.
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JollyGood
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July 03, 2022, 01:45:40 PM |
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To be honest I'm going to remove the flag as all I wanted was my winning as I did win it without cheating. Ltc casino as kept the promise and I have asked already those who supported the flag if they can remove it. I have changed the title as resolved too as I think since they are paying me is fair and they did indeed restore my faith in the industry. This is an excellent move by you to show the same courtesy that LTC Casino have shown you. After you withdraw all your funds it will be the perfect times for both you and LTC Casino to move on from this issue. Can someone please help me to remove the flags? I am personally satisfied by the outcoming of the issue and would massively appreciate if those who have supported my flag would remove it. I was convinced I was never going to be pay and so far they have been paying every single withdraw and I feel is fair on them to restore their reputation too since they agree to pay my winnings.
Thanks to everyone. First things first. You can start by withdrawing the flag. I guess you know how to do this. Then you can contact each of the members that supported the flag and red trusted the profile to see the new update. There is a chance that most of them don't know what's going on I am mentioning them here just in case some have mention notifications activated. Peeple who supported Type 3 flag: LoyceV, Slow death, Pmalek, TwitchySeal, joeperry, Jawhead999, Mahdirakib, WhyFhy, Blossom15, naim027, GamblingBro, shrxkt Type 1 flag LoyceV, Slow death, TwitchySeal, khaled0111, acroman08, shasan, Jawhead999, Mahdirakib, WhyFhy, naim027, PaperWallet, lule29, shrxkt, giornogiovana I am going to reverse my negative feedback to a neutral one as they have started paying you. That would be the ideal thing to do but to really only do that after he has received all his claimed funds from LTC Casino. If those that left negative tags and supported the flags did so because the OP asked for support, then they should also revise/remove the negative trust and withdraw support for the flag if the OP asks them to. I can see that bambolina still supports one of the flags against LTC Casino. He removed support for one, maybe he forgot to do it for the other. I will remove my support for the flag when OP has been paid in full. I have notifications enabled and as soon as someone mentions my name or quotes one of my posts, I will check to see what is going on. I also would recommend for all interested parties to do the same, they should only withdraw their support for the flags and remove/revise negative trust on the basis the OP has received all 1496 LTC. It was great to see the community get together to take an interest in this case and it was equally great to see the way LTC Casino conducted themselves while a mutually acceptable solution was sought out.
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PaperWallet
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July 27, 2022, 09:42:32 AM |
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Any news Bambolina? I hope you managed to withdraw all of your funds by now without playing!
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shasan
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July 29, 2022, 09:26:11 PM |
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Any news Bambolina? I hope you managed to withdraw all of your funds by now without playing!
According to the last post of the op, op is getting the payment from the casino and after that post there is no update means there is no more problem happening on the online casino site. If there should have any problem then we may see any update on this thread.
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PaperWallet
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Any news Bambolina? I hope you managed to withdraw all of your funds by now without playing!
According to the last post of the op, op is getting the payment from the casino and after that post there is no update means there is no more problem happening on the online casino site. If there should have any problem then we may see any update on this thread. OP is a compulsive gambler. It would be nice after all this if he were to tell us all went well. He had to connect to the casino every single day for 100 days to withdraw, so he might have gambled his win and lost.
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BitcoinGirl.Club
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July 31, 2022, 09:06:11 PM |
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so he might have gambled his win and lost.
If he does then the casino do not owe him anything. Obviously that did not happened not at least when the title edited as Resolved. Two party had conflict in agreements, they resolved it. Both should forget the past and move on. <snip>
Updating your quote so the users can recheck the case. Red Flag: LoyceV, Slow death, Pmalek, TwitchySeal, joeperry, WhyFhy, Jawhead999, Mahdirakib, Blossom15, naim027, GamblingBro, shrxkt Yellow/light orange flag: LoyceV, Slow death, TwitchySeal, khaled0111, shasan, WhyFhy, Jawhead999, acroman08, Mahdirakib, naim027, PaperWallet, lule29, shrxkt, giornogiovana
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bambolina (OP)
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August 01, 2022, 12:22:11 AM |
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Any news Bambolina? I hope you managed to withdraw all of your funds by now without playing!
According to the last post of the op, op is getting the payment from the casino and after that post there is no update means there is no more problem happening on the online casino site. If there should have any problem then we may see any update on this thread. OP is a compulsive gambler. It would be nice after all this if he were to tell us all went well. He had to connect to the casino every single day for 100 days to withdraw, so he might have gambled his win and lost. Hi everyone, apologies for late response but I have been travelling to visit my mum. So far I have been able to make withdrawals daily according the withdrawals t&c. its a 300 ltc monthly limit but so far I didn't have any issue. I have changed the title as I agreed with the casino rep as he requested and changed since for now they have been paying me. I have requested of those who supported the red flag if they could remove it and few said they will when the payment will be paid out all ,I'll keep everyone updated. I did not disappear , , just travelled and spent time with my mother as she had a stroke in January and I couldn't finally visit her out of the clinic and spent time face to face. The money has been going towards her medical bills so I must thank everyone as it has been helping the quality level of the help she needs.
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Mahdirakib
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August 01, 2022, 08:25:04 AM |
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Updating your quote so the users can recheck the case.
No one has changed the decision yet to remove the support from the flag. The supporters of the flag were same when JeromeTash mentioned it in the previous month. I believe most of them are still aware of this accusation (including me). Based on the terms of ltccasino, OP is allowed to make maximum 300 LTC withdrawal per month. Ltccasino has enabled his withdrawal on 3rd June. Almost 2 months have been passed since they enabled the withdrawal. So, OP hasn't received more than 600 LTC until now. His account balance was 1496 LTC, so the casino still owes 896 LTC to the OP. And it will take 3 more months for him to receive the full amount from ltccasino. It won't be ideal to reverse our decision (support from the flag) until he receive the full amount.
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JollyGood
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I think as soon as the full funds have been withdrawn by the OP (as per the LTC Casino terms and conditions), the support for the flag should be withdrawn even though the OP first created and then withdrew the flag. The whole withdrawal process should taken around 5 months and thus far things seem to be going well for the OP. LTC Casino have been true to their word and are allowing the OP to withdraw 300 LTC per month. Any news Bambolina? I hope you managed to withdraw all of your funds by now without playing!
According to the last post of the op, op is getting the payment from the casino and after that post there is no update means there is no more problem happening on the online casino site. If there should have any problem then we may see any update on this thread.
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Pmalek
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August 01, 2022, 09:16:29 AM |
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Updating your quote so the users can recheck the case.
Red Flag: LoyceV, Slow death, Pmalek, TwitchySeal, joeperry, WhyFhy, Jawhead999, Mahdirakib, Blossom15, naim027, GamblingBro, shrxkt Thanks for the remainder. I am checking this thread from time to time and of course it's in my watchlist since I have posted in it numerous times. Not to mention the bot notifications every time someone mentions my name or quotes one of my posts. I stand by what I said earlier. I will remove support for the flag when the casino has paid out everything they owe. I still consider this casino a high-risk gambling platform since no shred of evidence has ever been posted to back up their claims. But luckily they have decided to do the right thing in this case at least.
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Slow death
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August 05, 2022, 08:44:43 AM |
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Updating your quote so the users can recheck the case.
Red Flag: LoyceV, Slow death, Pmalek, TwitchySeal, joeperry, WhyFhy, Jawhead999, Mahdirakib, Blossom15, naim027, GamblingBro, shrxkt Yellow/light orange flag: LoyceV, Slow death, TwitchySeal, khaled0111, shasan, WhyFhy, Jawhead999, acroman08, Mahdirakib, naim027, PaperWallet, lule29, shrxkt, giornogiovana
I removed the negative feedback and removed my support for the flag. Op is already receiving his money so the case is resolved, there is no need to change it to neutral
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I removed the negative feedback and removed my support for the flag. Op is already receiving his money so the case is resolved, there is no need to change it to neutral
I think this was the right thing to do, others may disagree. I stand by what I said earlier. I will remove support for the flag when the casino has paid out everything they owe. I still consider this casino a high-risk gambling platform since no shred of evidence has ever been posted to back up their claims. But luckily they have decided to do the right thing in this case at least.
I must missed your earlier post. I am more into removing the tags since they started paying. They already know the tags are pressure for them and if they refuse to pay at any stage then tags will be given again. Removing the tags give them access to continue their business. People who check feedback (I believe most do not care to check reference for update) they will consider the casino is still a scam and did not came to a negotiation, resulting not joining them. Eventually they lose business. For a business it's very important that they are in constant cash flow so that they can pay their players even if they have huge bankroll.
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August 07, 2022, 04:35:45 AM |
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I have removed my negative tag and support since LTC Casino already started to pay the winning, of course if thing goes wrong I would give negative tag again and wouldn't remove it ASAP until I see a good indication to remove the tag, this may take few months until I don't see they have no intention to scam.
But I'd say @Pmalek's decision isn't wrong too, each people have different view to consider removing the tag. At least he's not a kind of user who wouldn't remove his tag even though the accusation already resolved.
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August 07, 2022, 06:49:01 AM |
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I removed the negative feedback and removed my support for the flag. Op is already receiving his money so the case is resolved, there is no need to change it to neutral The case is in the process of being solved. It will be fully solved when everything they owe has been paid out. I must missed your earlier post. I am more into removing the tags since they started paying. They already know the tags are pressure for them and if they refuse to pay at any stage then tags will be given again. Removing the tags give them access to continue their business. People who check feedback (I believe most do not care to check reference for update) they will consider the casino is still a scam and did not came to a negotiation, resulting not joining them. Eventually they lose business. For a business it's very important that they are in constant cash flow so that they can pay their players even if they have huge bankroll. They have told so many lies in this thread and accused OP and other companies of being fraudsters without any shred of evidence. They said they would be transparent about their findings - they lied. They said they would release data publicly - they lied. They said they would give their findings to a mod to check. When it was suggested they send everything to LoyceV, they went quiet. I don't trust anything that comes out of the mouths of anyone close to LTC Casino. I consider them a threat to the community and Bitcointalk players irrespective of their decision to start paying OP their win. I can remove my support for the flag prematurely right now if they show us the data and the "proof" they gathered after 3 months of investigation. Since they won't do that, and I doubt they have any case against the player except their own suspicions, nothing is going to change. If they were able to find anything they wouldn't have started paying out OP.
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I removed the negative feedback and removed my support for the flag. Op is already receiving his money so the case is resolved, there is no need to change it to neutral I think it was premature but also think removing or revising the tags would have been inevitable after the OP withdrew the full amount. Maybe it would have been better to have waited for the OP to confirm he withdrew all the funds. I have removed my negative tag and support since LTC Casino already started to pay the winning, of course if thing goes wrong I would give negative tag again and wouldn't remove it ASAP until I see a good indication to remove the tag, this may take few months until I don't see they have no intention to scam.
But I'd say @Pmalek's decision isn't wrong too, each people have different view to consider removing the tag. At least he's not a kind of user who wouldn't remove his tag even though the accusation already resolved. I would say the OP and LTC Casino would appreciate you doing so but I would say the same as what I said above... it might be premature for you to do so but we will see what happens when the OP updates us (hopefully after he withdraws the full 1496 LTC).
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The case is in the process of being solved. It will be fully solved when everything they owe has been paid out.
I think it was premature but also think removing or revising the tags would have been inevitable after the OP withdrew the full amount. Maybe it would have been better to have waited for the OP to confirm he withdrew all the funds.
My opinion is same here. We shouldn't consider this accusation as resolved until OP is getting the 1496 LTC. The behaviour of LTC casino representative wasn't good enough in the forum. OP had filed a complaint against ltccasino on casino guru too, but ltccasino team has behaved in the same way there. Perhaps, Ltccasino team thought they would be able to remove the negative reputation instantly if they can manage to change this accusation title as resolved. They had made an agreement with the user I have changed the title as I agreed with the casino rep as he requested and changed since for now they have been paying me.
I think it is reasonable to keep the negative feedback and support on the flag as long as the user isn't getting his whole amount. Because, they were holding the funds of the user for more than 3 months without any reason. However, I respect the decision of “Slow death” and “Jawhead999”. Everyone has a different view. Hopefully other DT members aren't going to change their decisions anytime soon.
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If I recall correctly, the 90 days was part of their terms and conditions to which the OP signed up to. Those 90 days allowed the game providers to check if cheating had taken place therefore that should not be held against the casino. LT Casino stated they will allow the withdrawal on the basis of technicality as they have one confirmation cheating took place and one where there was nothing. Either way the OP is withdrawing and the casino have been true to their word thus far but without a shadow of doubt those that placed tags should keep them at least until the full amount has been withdrawn. I think it is reasonable to keep the negative feedback and support on the flag as long as the user isn't getting his whole amount. Because, they were holding the funds of the user for more than 3 months without any reason. However, I respect the decision of “Slow death” and “Jawhead999”. Everyone has a different view. Hopefully other DT members aren't going to change their decisions anytime soon.
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If I recall correctly, the 90 days was part of their terms and conditions to which the OP signed up to. Those 90 days allowed the game providers to check if cheating had taken place therefore that should not be held against the casino.
Yeah, it was a part of their terms. But they were lying about the investigation here. They were ignoring the questions of the forum members. OP made this accusation on 13th March. Wazdan slots provider representative has given their statement in the forum on 16th April ( See here). They mentioned that LTC casino representative was giving false information about the investigation. First of all, I would like to tell you that EVERYTHING that is stated here by LTC Casino about our communication and our response to them is not true, or at least not a full truth. This is absolutely unacceptable.
Everything was clear here at the moment. But LTC casino team still took 45+ more days to take their final decision. Which was irrelevant. Moreover, ltccasino team hadn't provided any single evidence to anyone here. It was an unnecessary 90-day investigation.
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I don't trust anything that comes out of the mouths of anyone close to LTC Casino. I consider them a threat to the community and Bitcointalk players irrespective of their decision to start paying OP their win. I can remove my support for the flag prematurely right now if they show us the data and the "proof" they gathered after 3 months of investigation. Since they won't do that, and I doubt they have any case against the player except their own suspicions, nothing is going to change. If they were able to find anything they wouldn't have started paying out OP. I don't trust LTC Casino either. But, OP wrote this: Can someone please help me to remove the flags? I am personally satisfied by the outcoming of the issue and would massively appreciate if those who have supported my flag would remove it. Based on how Trust flags are supposed to work, I can no longer Support the (red) type 3 Flag that states: LTC Casino did not make the victims of this act roughly whole, AND it is not the case that all of the victims forgave the act. Even though it looks like bambolina hasn't fully been paid yet, they forgave the act. That makes the whole statement no longer true. Since I still don't trust LTC Casino, I won't Oppose the Flag but I've withdrawn my Support. Then there's the (yellow) type 1 Newbie warning Flag: Due largely to the factors mentioned in this topic, I believe that anyone dealing with LTC Casino is at a high risk of losing money, and guests would be well-advised to avoid doing so. This determination is based on concrete red flags which any knowledgeable & reasonable forum user should agree with, and it is not based on the user's opinions. I believe this is still accurate, so my Support stays.
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<Snip> Your explanation makes sense, so I withdrew my support from the Type 3 flag. I am not personally affected by the wrongdoings of the casino and since bambolina changed his mind about the flag and doesn't want it supported anymore, it makes sense to no longer support it. But I added my support for the Type 1 flag because the community needs to be warned about what the casino has done and that they can do it again in the future in case of another big win. I don't play around with flags that much, so your input on this particular issues was appreciated.
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