Sanction isn't the right option

[be.open]

By the way, you did not answer my question like that - and what happened from your forecasts about May 15-20, from the area of ​the "new cycle of calculations"? Have there been new payers in rubles?

Again you are in too much of a hurry, there is a deadline for payment and there is a standard five-day grace period. We can definitely say that Europe as a whole is now not in a position to refuse Russian gas, so all Putin's demands will be met. It seems only Finland is ready to join Bulgaria and Poland, all other countries will pay.

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[og kush420]

By the way, you did not answer my question like that - and what happened from your forecasts about May 15-20, from the area of ​the "new cycle of calculations"? Have there been new payers in rubles?

Again you are in too much of a hurry, there is a deadline for payment and there is a standard five-day grace period. We can definitely say that Europe as a whole is now not in a position to refuse Russian gas, so all Putin's demands will be met. It seems only Finland is ready to join Bulgaria and Poland, all other countries will pay.

I also believe the same - the world we see a different dimansion in trade when the countries will start paying in Ruble - the dollar demand will drop too.
US tried to destabilize Russia by putting so much sanction on them - US is always a trouble they have done so much damage to the world already. 

[horrifiedx1]

By the way, you did not answer my question like that - and what happened from your forecasts about May 15-20, from the area of ​the "new cycle of calculations"? Have there been new payers in rubles?

Again you are in too much of a hurry, there is a deadline for payment and there is a standard five-day grace period. We can definitely say that Europe as a whole is now not in a position to refuse Russian gas, so all Putin's demands will be met. It seems only Finland is ready to join Bulgaria and Poland, all other countries will pay.

I also believe the same - the world we see a different dimansion in trade when the countries will start paying in Ruble - the dollar demand will drop too.
US tried to destabilize Russia by putting so much sanction on them - US is always a trouble they have done so much damage to the world already. 

But it looks like Russia is sticking with it, so who needs them wins. and russia has oil and gas which is very much needed by western countries, and if they do not follow the demands of russia, there will be big inflation in that country because their basic materials are not sufficient, which in the end is expensive. Of course, if you haven't found an alternative solution, many western countries will submit to Russia

[ropyu1978]

Meanwhile, according to JPMorgan, the Russian economy did not justify the hopes of the West - it did not collapse.

They put sanctions and at the same time keep buying gas and oil from Russia. Is that a joke bro! If you want to destroy someone's economy at the same time you can not stop his stream of revenue then why do you put sanction in the first place. I think west has gone mad and they do not know how to get out of this situation. Putin really played a mind game.

I totally agree with your opinion, your review is very reasonable, Putin really racked the brains of European countries, after European countries imposed sanctions on Russia, but European countries actually bought gas and oil from Russia, it seems European countries can't control Putin, instead On the other hand, Putin made European countries feel the impact of sanctions imposed on Russia, really like a joke.

[Cryptock]

Meanwhile, according to JPMorgan, the Russian economy did not justify the hopes of the West - it did not collapse.

They put sanctions and at the same time keep buying gas and oil from Russia. Is that a joke bro! If you want to destroy someone's economy at the same time you can not stop his stream of revenue then why do you put sanction in the first place. I think west has gone mad and they do not know how to get out of this situation. Putin really played a mind game.

I totally agree with your opinion, your review is very reasonable, Putin really racked the brains of European countries, after European countries imposed sanctions on Russia, but European countries actually bought gas and oil from Russia, it seems European countries can't control Putin, instead On the other hand, Putin made European countries feel the impact of sanctions imposed on Russia, really like a joke.

Very right. Lol - all the European countries are putting bans on Russia and hence they are dependent of Russia for the oil and gas supply.
What a joke. Now what if Russia puts sanctions on all of them. The war will be over soon - but the after affects will be everlasting!

[DrBeer]

By the way, you did not answer my question like that - and what happened from your forecasts about May 15-20, from the area of ​the "new cycle of calculations"? Have there been new payers in rubles?

Again you are in too much of a hurry, there is a deadline for payment and there is a standard five-day grace period. We can definitely say that Europe as a whole is now not in a position to refuse Russian gas, so all Putin's demands will be met. It seems only Finland is ready to join Bulgaria and Poland, all other countries will pay.

today May 22nd. The results of your predictions, not through the prism of Russian propaganda, but as they are in reality (we know that these are diametrically opposed data, right? )
So.
1. Finland, because of the tantrums of the Kremlin's half-witted pathetic copy of Hitler, refuses to purchase Russian gas, because - for rubles. Everything, Finland will freeze, they will know how to join NATO! They'll crawl on their knees! We can repeat! Oh It's the previously listened to news from Russia that broke out from me In fact, Russian gas in Finland is an inconspicuous loss. For the Finns have not heated their homes with gas for a long time, and the share of Russian gas in total supplies is only 5% But Russia is still reducing its income, once again shooting itself in the foot. By the way, Finland, represented by Gasum, is suing Gazprom-Export, because of the demand to violate contracts and pay for gas. Given the position of the European Commission, the result is predictable
2. EU. Another 10 companies from the countries-"hand dogs" of the Kremlin terrorists (Germany, Italy, Hungary) have opened ruble accounts in Gazprombank. Opened. But only some companies from Germany made the payment. Everything ! EU on its knees! We can repeat! Everyone will freeze without our gas! The ruble is the most stable! Oh Again, propaganda from the rush-media climbs
Have you noticed - I'm not afraid to write facts that contradict my interests, views, and I don't slide into propaganda fantasies?! Get experience! To be honest, or not to be a victim of propaganda - it's easy!
3. The European Union said that gas companies would violate sanctions if they opened bank accounts in rubles to buy Russian gas.
Despite attempts by Gazprom to convince buyers in the EU that paying for gas in rubles would not violate sanctions, the EU insists that it has not changed its position and considers the mechanism a violation. "Anything that goes beyond opening an account in the currency of the contract with Gazprombank and making a payment to this account, and then issuing a statement that you believe that you have completed the payment, is contrary to the sanctions" - this is the position of the European Commission, and it will stick to it.
4. As early as May 20, Russia may begin the next stage of reducing gas supplies to the EU countries. Shutdowns may affect companies that have waived the requirement to pay in rubles.
5. Petty and disgusting, out of habit, Russia "revenge" Finland. For its absolutely logical decision to join NATO, Russia cut off the supply of electricity. Well, how about without abominations and meanness!? I didn’t do meanness - it’s a useless day for Russia

Those. in fact, nothing grandiose, of your expectations did not happen. No one massively pays in rubles, the position on this issue, the EU / EC, is stable, Russia is stable in its meanness and abominations. Let's watch further!

[be.open]

By the way, you did not answer my question like that - and what happened from your forecasts about May 15-20, from the area of ​the "new cycle of calculations"? Have there been new payers in rubles?

Again you are in too much of a hurry, there is a deadline for payment and there is a standard five-day grace period. We can definitely say that Europe as a whole is now not in a position to refuse Russian gas, so all Putin's demands will be met. It seems only Finland is ready to join Bulgaria and Poland, all other countries will pay.

today May 22nd. The results of your predictions, not through the prism of Russian propaganda, but as they are in reality (we know that these are diametrically opposed data, right? )
So.
1. Finland, because of the tantrums of the Kremlin's half-witted pathetic copy of Hitler, refuses to purchase Russian gas, because - for rubles. Everything, Finland will freeze, they will know how to join NATO! They'll crawl on their knees! We can repeat! Oh It's the previously listened to news from Russia that broke out from me In fact, Russian gas in Finland is an inconspicuous loss. For the Finns have not heated their homes with gas for a long time, and the share of Russian gas in total supplies is only 5% But Russia is still reducing its income, once again shooting itself in the foot. By the way, Finland, represented by Gasum, is suing Gazprom-Export, because of the demand to violate contracts and pay for gas. Given the position of the European Commission, the result is predictable
2. EU. Another 10 companies from the countries-"hand dogs" of the Kremlin terrorists (Germany, Italy, Hungary) have opened ruble accounts in Gazprombank. Opened. But only some companies from Germany made the payment. Everything ! EU on its knees! We can repeat! Everyone will freeze without our gas! The ruble is the most stable! Oh Again, propaganda from the rush-media climbs
Have you noticed - I'm not afraid to write facts that contradict my interests, views, and I don't slide into propaganda fantasies?! Get experience! To be honest, or not to be a victim of propaganda - it's easy!
3. The European Union said that gas companies would violate sanctions if they opened bank accounts in rubles to buy Russian gas.
Despite attempts by Gazprom to convince buyers in the EU that paying for gas in rubles would not violate sanctions, the EU insists that it has not changed its position and considers the mechanism a violation. "Anything that goes beyond opening an account in the currency of the contract with Gazprombank and making a payment to this account, and then issuing a statement that you believe that you have completed the payment, is contrary to the sanctions" - this is the position of the European Commission, and it will stick to it.
4. As early as May 20, Russia may begin the next stage of reducing gas supplies to the EU countries. Shutdowns may affect companies that have waived the requirement to pay in rubles.
5. Petty and disgusting, out of habit, Russia "revenge" Finland. For its absolutely logical decision to join NATO, Russia cut off the supply of electricity. Well, how about without abominations and meanness!? I didn’t do meanness - it’s a useless day for Russia

Those. in fact, nothing grandiose, of your expectations did not happen. No one massively pays in rubles, the position on this issue, the EU / EC, is stable, Russia is stable in its meanness and abominations. Let's watch further!

Buyers of more than 70% of gas from the Russian Federation in Europe are switching to a new payment scheme

[bitgov]

Yes it's going to be the right option but the only problem is that Russia is not Germany so they won't easily bend with this economic sanctions, this is actually much better because the sanctions have started early so as to make sure that the war can't last for a really long time. The only problem with this is the innocent people of Russia will be a collateral damage unless they revolt which the Russians are really good at.

I think every country rise after having a war. But these days there are many solution available the lords can go for dialogue. Because in war both the country loose - they lose so many precious lives - the effect remains forever. This is now stone age where people used to war with swords and only those at the battlefield were affected.

[laredo7mm]

Meanwhile, according to JPMorgan, the Russian economy did not justify the hopes of the West - it did not collapse.

They put sanctions and at the same time keep buying gas and oil from Russia. Is that a joke bro! If you want to destroy someone's economy at the same time you can not stop his stream of revenue then why do you put sanction in the first place. I think west has gone mad and they do not know how to get out of this situation. Putin really played a mind game.

I totally agree with your opinion, your review is very reasonable, Putin really racked the brains of European countries, after European countries imposed sanctions on Russia, but European countries actually bought gas and oil from Russia, it seems European countries can't control Putin, instead On the other hand, Putin made European countries feel the impact of sanctions imposed on Russia, really like a joke.

Very right. Lol - all the European countries are putting bans on Russia and hence they are dependent of Russia for the oil and gas supply.
What a joke. Now what if Russia puts sanctions on all of them. The war will be over soon - but the after affects will be everlasting!

I do not think Russia's sanctions will be effective and Putin has any plan to do that. After all, this has been done by Putin to secure his gas and oil business with European countries. A large portion of russias's economy is dependent on this source of income. This was a bet for Russia which seems to be the right choice for them but if they lose this war they will lose everything.

[rahmatrf331]

Meanwhile, according to JPMorgan, the Russian economy did not justify the hopes of the West - it did not collapse.

They put sanctions and at the same time keep buying gas and oil from Russia. Is that a joke bro! If you want to destroy someone's economy at the same time you can not stop his stream of revenue then why do you put sanction in the first place. I think west has gone mad and they do not know how to get out of this situation. Putin really played a mind game.

I totally agree with your opinion, your review is very reasonable, Putin really racked the brains of European countries, after European countries imposed sanctions on Russia, but European countries actually bought gas and oil from Russia, it seems European countries can't control Putin, instead On the other hand, Putin made European countries feel the impact of sanctions imposed on Russia, really like a joke.

Very right. Lol - all the European countries are putting bans on Russia and hence they are dependent of Russia for the oil and gas supply.
What a joke. Now what if Russia puts sanctions on all of them. The war will be over soon - but the after affects will be everlasting!

I do not think Russia's sanctions will be effective and Putin has any plan to do that. After all, this has been done by Putin to secure his gas and oil business with European countries. A large portion of russias's economy is dependent on this source of income. This was a bet for Russia which seems to be the right choice for them but if they lose this war they will lose everything.

Western countries desperately need importers of gas and oil from Russia. as if they didn't need it, in another session they imposed tough sanctions on Russia for its invasion of Ukraine. In that event they wanted to bring down the Russian economy, but without realizing it they were caught in the batman trap of the Russian state, what a fool.

[Flexystar]

By the way, you did not answer my question like that - and what happened from your forecasts about May 15-20, from the area of ​the "new cycle of calculations"? Have there been new payers in rubles?

Again you are in too much of a hurry, there is a deadline for payment and there is a standard five-day grace period. We can definitely say that Europe as a whole is now not in a position to refuse Russian gas, so all Putin's demands will be met. It seems only Finland is ready to join Bulgaria and Poland, all other countries will pay.

It’s complicated and it’s getting more complicated as the sanction holds on. Just think guys, if sanctions kept forever like this, and eventually the countries started to ran out of gas would they be surviving easily? I barely doubt that will stand for long terms. Other countries like Africa and some parts of Europe does not have enough gas production and resources to fill the hunger forever. They will have to get into it eventually and accept the terms. There are seasons like rain and cold when gas is required at highest levels. So who knows for how long these things will work out.

[og kush420]

It’s complicated and it’s getting more complicated as the sanction holds on. Just think guys, if sanctions kept forever like this, and eventually the countries started to ran out of gas would they be surviving easily? I barely doubt that will stand for long terms. Other countries like Africa and some parts of Europe does not have enough gas production and resources to fill the hunger forever. They will have to get into it eventually and accept the terms. There are seasons like rain and cold when gas is required at highest levels. So who knows for how long these things will work out.

There was a debate earlier that world should impose sanctions on Russia and put them in trouble and everyone was supporting that. Now everyone is saying these sections are going to put the world in trouble - no doubt the world needs a serious outlook on the situation and solve the problem.

[laredo7mm]

Meanwhile, according to JPMorgan, the Russian economy did not justify the hopes of the West - it did not collapse.

They put sanctions and at the same time keep buying gas and oil from Russia. Is that a joke bro! If you want to destroy someone's economy at the same time you can not stop his stream of revenue then why do you put sanction in the first place. I think west has gone mad and they do not know how to get out of this situation. Putin really played a mind game.

I totally agree with your opinion, your review is very reasonable, Putin really racked the brains of European countries, after European countries imposed sanctions on Russia, but European countries actually bought gas and oil from Russia, it seems European countries can't control Putin, instead On the other hand, Putin made European countries feel the impact of sanctions imposed on Russia, really like a joke.

Very right. Lol - all the European countries are putting bans on Russia and hence they are dependent of Russia for the oil and gas supply.
What a joke. Now what if Russia puts sanctions on all of them. The war will be over soon - but the after affects will be everlasting!

I do not think Russia's sanctions will be effective and Putin has any plan to do that. After all, this has been done by Putin to secure his gas and oil business with European countries. A large portion of russias's economy is dependent on this source of income. This was a bet for Russia which seems to be the right choice for them but if they lose this war they will lose everything.

Western countries desperately need importers of gas and oil from Russia. as if they didn't need it, in another session they imposed tough sanctions on Russia for its invasion of Ukraine. In that event they wanted to bring down the Russian economy, but without realizing it they were caught in the batman trap of the Russian state, what a fool.

Actually, I saw that on the news. Some European countries desperately went to some African countries to find an alternative. Actually, the most affected country in the EU is Germany. Because they have automobile factories and I think most of the big tech manufacturing hub is in Germany which desperately needed gas to run. Germany needs Russian cheap gas to survive their economy. Some expensive alternatives will not bring any solution.

[bitgov]

Actually, I saw that on the news. Some European countries desperately went to some African countries to find an alternative. Actually, the most affected country in the EU is Germany. Because they have automobile factories and I think most of the big tech manufacturing hub is in Germany which desperately needed gas to run. Germany needs Russian cheap gas to survive their economy. Some expensive alternatives will not bring any solution.

The real OPTION is dialogue - today Pk PM gave an interview to CNN where he was asked - does he regret going to Russia when they were planning to invade Ukraine? Our PM said I believe in dialogue and the who rubbish of Russia - Ukraine war falls on him.
That is so sad. Every country is suffering!

[be.open]

No one massively pays in rubles, the position on this issue, the EU / EC, is stable, Russia is stable in its meanness and abominations. Let's watch further!

The position of the EU has suddenly changed. 

If the EU immediately and completely abandons Russian oil, Russia will be able to resell fuel at increased prices in another market, which will replenish its treasury, says the head of the European Commission Ursula von der Leyen.

A good master class on changing shoes in a jump.

[bakasabo]

Another funny favor

Polish PM Calls on Norway to Share Oil and Gas Profits Windfall. Norway is not in EU, nor in any other union. Sanctions forced resources price to jump, and now Poland complains that they have to buy expensive oil and ask to share profit. Not to mention that Polish PM blame Putin for Norway earning huge. Why would Norway share profit? As a solidarity? Everyone is now their own blacksmith of a future, every man for himself.

Sometimes it is funny to read comments and hear thought, that when war is over, everything will get back instantly. We will have cheap petrol, food once again and etc. When the war will be over, sanctions will be left. Get used to it.

[DrBeer]

No one massively pays in rubles, the position on this issue, the EU / EC, is stable, Russia is stable in its meanness and abominations. Let's watch further!

The position of the EU has suddenly changed. 

If the EU immediately and completely abandons Russian oil, Russia will be able to resell fuel at increased prices in another market, which will replenish its treasury, says the head of the European Commission Ursula von der Leyen.

A good master class on changing shoes in a jump.

In order:
1. Ursula von der Leyen has a rich imagination, lack of complexes, and the hope that no one will notice anything and will not remember "yesterday's" statements. Does it remind you of anyone?
2. I wonder to whom Russia will be able to sell excess oil, and even at an increased price? China buys at market price minus 30-40%. Or is this, as it is customary in Russia to call such situations "negative price increases"?
3. Honestly - I'm not surprised and I believe, I won't even double-check! From Germany, after it, in the person of the ruling elite, has been appeasing the Kremlin for decades, to the detriment of the interests of the EU and Germany, you can expect anything! And even daily shifts of vectors.

[Cryptock]

No one massively pays in rubles, the position on this issue, the EU / EC, is stable, Russia is stable in its meanness and abominations. Let's watch further!

The position of the EU has suddenly changed. 

If the EU immediately and completely abandons Russian oil, Russia will be able to resell fuel at increased prices in another market, which will replenish its treasury, says the head of the European Commission Ursula von der Leyen.

A good master class on changing shoes in a jump.

In order:
1. Ursula von der Leyen has a rich imagination, lack of complexes, and the hope that no one will notice anything and will not remember "yesterday's" statements. Does it remind you of anyone?
2. I wonder to whom Russia will be able to sell excess oil, and even at an increased price? China buys at market price minus 30-40%. Or is this, as it is customary in Russia to call such situations "negative price increases"?
3. Honestly - I'm not surprised and I believe, I won't even double-check! From Germany, after it, in the person of the ruling elite, has been appeasing the Kremlin for decades, to the detriment of the interests of the EU and Germany, you can expect anything! And even daily shifts of vectors.

In my opinion - the sanction is definitely not the right option.
Those who are putting sanctions on Russia will surely be depending on the Russia to get the oil and gas supply. What if Russia refuse to do that? Why were everyone so after Russia? Is there any power which was forcing them to do so.

[Smack That Ace]

Sanctions is the only thing that can be done  to Russia,  US should do beyond sanctions like physical combating it will lead to world war 3, this will affect so many innocent countries. Things will will be so difficult now the world is facing serious high inflation,  so I think sanctions are the best for Russia.

True .. there are no much options to take . Not the very perfect one , but the best one and sanctions is the most neutral thing they could do to show how justice must be done ( but still they had the double standard though which become an endless debate )
The world are sick .. covid19 have not finished yet and other global problem started.

What a year it is to tell to our grandchildren. An apocalyptic getting near , a total destruction getting near .. wish it wont happened very soon.

In this case, I agree with you.
There is no way to stop this Russian aggression without sanction. Putin has gone mad with his arrogance, thinking of himself as a superpower. 

Russia has imposed a terrible war on a weak country in all respects. Countless people are dying, for a simple reason they are destroying a whole country. They are not even considering helpless children and vulnerable women. No one is spared from their aggression. If his madness is not stopped now, he will call for a third world war.


regards

duke

[Slow death]

Sanctions is the only thing that can be done  to Russia,  US should do beyond sanctions like physical combating it will lead to world war 3, this will affect so many innocent countries. Things will will be so difficult now the world is facing serious high inflation,  so I think sanctions are the best for Russia.

True .. there are no much options to take . Not the very perfect one , but the best one and sanctions is the most neutral thing they could do to show how justice must be done ( but still they had the double standard though which become an endless debate )
The world are sick .. covid19 have not finished yet and other global problem started.

What a year it is to tell to our grandchildren. An apocalyptic getting near , a total destruction getting near .. wish it wont happened very soon.

In this case, I agree with you.
There is no way to stop this Russian aggression without sanction. Putin has gone mad with his arrogance, thinking of himself as a superpower. 

Russia has imposed a terrible war on a weak country in all respects. Countless people are dying, for a simple reason they are destroying a whole country. They are not even considering helpless children and vulnerable women. No one is spared from their aggression. If his madness is not stopped now, he will call for a third world war.


regards

duke

In my opinion the sanctions against Russia are being very weak, they need to adopt heavier sanctions against Russia and its politicians as long as they also do not harm the common Russian citizen, I would say that closing air spaces, banishing Russia from many things could be a good start of harsh sanctions that countries should adopt, and also countries need to think of a way to help ukraine militarily, I'm not talking about giving weapons, I'm talking about sending military to ukraine in order to expel russia from there